Some Zionist Falsehoods

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Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it.

Jonathan Swift.

The falsehood. Britain gave Palestine in its entirety [including Transjordan] as a state [national home] to the Jewish people via the Balfour declaration. This declaration became International law at San Remo.

For the above to be true A) Britain would have to have given Palestine to world Jewry and B) National home would have to mean 'State'

So here's some quotes from the people in the know,

“I am well aware that the Zionist leaders have accepted fully the limitations of the Jewish National Home policy set out in the White Paper of 1922. At the same time, other important sections of the Jewish people have taken a different view, and there is no doubt that a number of the protests which are being made throughout the world are inspired by the conception that what we are trying to do in Palestine is to create a Jewish State and not what we are really trying to do — to create a Jewish National Home in Palestine, which is a different thing”.
Dr. Drummond Shiels, British under-secretary for the colonies.


Partition enables the Jews in the fullest sense to call the National Home their own : For it converts it into a Jewish State. Its citizens will be able to admit as many
Jews into it as they themselves .believe can be absorbed.
They will attain the primary ‘objective ,of Zionism-a Jewish
nation, planted in Palestine, giving its nationals the same
status in the world as other nations give theirs. They will
cease at last to live a ” minority life.”

Peel Commission Partition plan.


"It was, indeed, well understood that not all the Jews could, in any circumstances, go to Palestine. A country so small could by no possibility absorb and maintain 16 millions of people. Not all the Jews could go to Palestine; and not all Palestine could go to the Jews, on account of the rights of the people already there-rights which, in accordance with fundamental principles of British administration, were as clearly recognised in the words of the Balfour Declaration as were the rights of the Jews to reestablish their National Home."

Sir Herbert Samuel, First high commissioner of Palestine.


"While Mr. Balfour’s Declaration had provided for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, this was not the same thing as the reconstitution of Palestine as a Jewish National Home—an extension of the phrase for which there was no justification."

Lord Curzon, Foreign Secretary.

So the Brits knew.

The French Knew Here

The Americans knew Here

And the Zionists of the time knew,

"The object of Zionism is to establish for the Jewish people a home in Palestine secured by public law […] It has been said and is still being obstinately repeated by anti-Zionists again and again, that Zionism aims at the creation of an independent ‘Jewish State’. But this is wholly fallacious. The ‘Jewish State’ was never part of the Zionist programme. The Jewish State was the title of Herzl’s first pamphlet, which had the supreme merit of forcing people to think. This pamphlet was followed by the first Zionist Congress, which accepted the Basle programme – the only programme in existence.”

Nahum Sokolov.

So that leaves us with the question of Transjordan [ I wont discuss San Remo as it is so stupid it hurts my brain. if interested though just type in san remo agreement into a search engine]. Was TransJordan included in the 'National Home'? The answer is no and we only need to look at one quote to prove so.

“Forgive my addressing a personal message to you and the prime minister. I am deeply convinced we shall be making a grave error of policy if we do not now include Trans-Jordania in Palestine, It will certainly result in anarchy or French control across the border. Either would be disastrous and involve a larger garrison and at greater expense. I should never advise the Government to embark on military adventure. This is not such. Will the Government authorise occupation if there is spontaneous formal and public demand from all heads of all tribes and districts concerned?”

Herbert Samuel private telegram to Lord Curzon, August 7th 1920.
 

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The Falsehood. The name Palestine never existed until the Romans made it up between 132-136 A.D when they renamed Judea Palaestina .

Yet in the 5th century B.C we find that Herodotus uses the name Palestine,

"The number of the triremes was shown to be twelve hundred and seven; and these were they that furnished them. First, the Phoenicians; they, with the Syrians of Palestine, furnished three hundred. For their equipment, they had on their heads helmets well-nigh of Greek fashion; they wore linen breastplates, and carried shields without rims, and javelins. These Phoenicians dwelt in old time, as they themselves say, by the Red Sea; passing over from thence, they now inhabit the sea‑coast of Syria; that part of Syria and as much of it as reaches to Egypt, is all called Palestine. The Egyptians furnished two hundred ships. These wore plaited helmets, and carried hollow shields with broad rims, and spears for sea‑warfare, and great poleaxes. The greater part of them wore cuirasses and carried long swords."

Herodotus Histories book VII, Ch 89.


Falsehood. The returning Jews made the desert bloom.

The British survey of Palestine says otherwise.

Palestinian Arabs produced,

92% of Palestine’s grain
86% of its grapes
99% of its olives
77 % of its vegetables
95% of its melons
99% of its tobacco
60% of its bananas.

 
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The Falsehood. The name Palestine never existed until the Romans made it up between 132-136 A.D when they renamed Judea Palaestina .

Yet in the 5th century B.C we find that Herodotus uses the name Palestine,

"The number of the triremes was shown to be twelve hundred and seven; and these were they that furnished them. First, the Phoenicians; they, with the Syrians of Palestine, furnished three hundred. For their equipment, they had on their heads helmets well-nigh of Greek fashion; they wore linen breastplates, and carried shields without rims, and javelins. These Phoenicians dwelt in old time, as they themselves say, by the Red Sea; passing over from thence, they now inhabit the sea‑coast of Syria; that part of Syria and as much of it as reaches to Egypt, is all called Palestine. The Egyptians furnished two hundred ships. These wore plaited helmets, and carried hollow shields with broad rims, and spears for sea‑warfare, and great poleaxes. The greater part of them wore cuirasses and carried long swords."

Herodotus Histories book VII, Ch 89.


Falsehood. The returning Jews made the desert bloom.

The British survey of Palestine says otherwise.

Palestinian Arabs produced,

92% of Palestine’s grain
86% of its grapes
99% of its olives
77 % of its vegetables
95% of its melons
99% of its tobacco
60% of its bananas.

So are you insinuating The Chosen Ones are parasites and take everything they can steal whilst contributing less than nothing?
 

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So are you insinuating The Chosen Ones are parasites and take everything they can steal whilst contributing less than nothing?

C'mon man, the 'light unto the nations' only blesses people. Look at how they Blessed those people. Or how they blessed This people. How awesome are they that they not only bless their neighbours but they travel far and wide to bless everyone. And they even keep it secret just like it says to do in Matthew
 

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The Falsehood. The Arabs of Palestine were offered a state in 1937 and again in 1947...They rejected the offer on both occasions.

The reality was of course that rather than being 'offered a state' the Arabs were been asked to accept having their state divided.

"For Partition means that neither will get all it wants. It means that the Arabs must acquiesce in the exclusion from their sovereignty a piece of territory, long occupied and once ruled by them.

Peel Commission Report 1937.

"Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone."

Article 22 Covenant of the LoN.


The Falsehood. In 1948 Arab hoards from 5 (or 7) nations attacked the nascent state in order to drive the Jews into the sea. Outgunned and outnumbered we prevailed against all odds....It was a miracle.

Here's a balanced Look at the reality .

Further Reading
 

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The Falsehood. Israel never declared any borders. They simply declared independence at the termination of the mandate and renamed Palestine, Israel.

Here's how the Zionists notified the Americans of the new state,



So clearly they asked to be recognized on the strength of the 181 borders (partition plan)

This letter/note should also be taken into consideration,



from the UN archives we also have document S/766.

Q. (from the UN to the Jewish authorities in Palestine) (a) Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at the present time?

A. (From the Jewish authorities in Palestine) over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947. In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed.

You can read the full Q&A here S/766. Take note of the answer to Q (h)
 

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The Falsehood. We gave up the Gaza for peace in return we got...blah blah blah terrorism.

So here's why they really disengaged from Gaza,

"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process,” Dov Weisglass said in an interview with Ha’aretz scheduled to appear in the October 8 edition of the newspaper’s Friday magazine. “And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda. And all this with authority and permission. All with a presidential blessing and the ratification of both houses of Congress.”

Dov Weisglass


the Falsehood. We only blockade in Gaza items that are used for terror.

Some of the banned 'Terror items' include,

Sage
Cardamom
Cumin
Coriander
Dried Fruit
Size A4 Paper (this paper if folded into aircraft shapes could cause serious damage if launched from the Gaza into Sderot)
Toys
Chicks

Partial List of Prohibited Items


The Smoking Gun
 
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The Falsehood. We gave up the Gaza for peace in return we got...blah blah blah terrorism.

So here's why they really disengaged from Gaza,

"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process,” Dov Weisglass said in an interview with Ha’aretz scheduled to appear in the October 8 edition of the newspaper’s Friday magazine. “And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda. And all this with authority and permission. All with a presidential blessing and the ratification of both houses of Congress.”

Dov Weisglass


the Falsehood. We only blockade in Gaza items that are used for terror.

Some of the banned 'Terror items' include,

Sage
Cardamom
Cumin
Coriander
Dried Fruit
Size A4 Paper (this paper if folded into aircraft shapes could cause serious damage if launched from the Gaza into Sderot)
Toys
Chicks

Partial List of Prohibited Items


The Smoking Gun
This list is just ridiculous! Fabric is prohibited?!!!? I remember when @Antipapirus , who was a former IDF soldier, used to post on here and would give a bit of insight into why Israel is the psychotic and psychopathic nation it is. I'm curious to know what he'd say about this list.
 

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This list is just ridiculous! Fabric is prohibited?!!!? I remember when @Antipapirus , who was a former IDF soldier, used to post on here and would give a bit of insight into why Israel is the psychotic and psychopathic nation it is. I'm curious to know what he'd say about this list.
I guess different people and differing mindsets have lots of ideas as to why the zionist state does what it does, For me only one word is needed...Evil.

Here's a couple of links (if you dont already have them) for updates on Gaza ( My above post relates to 2010 when it was discovered by the good people at Gisha that the zionist entity was calculating the minimum amount of calories they could give Gazans without starving them to death) Gisha and OCHA
 
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