Lizard Kratom King

Lizard King

Veteran
Joined
Oct 20, 2021
Messages
946
I am sorry if this subject has been posted before. I would like anyone's thoughts and advice on the subject of Kratom. There are many different kinds and I thought maybe people on forum would like to share their experiences and recommendations. Thanks.
 

redqueen

Star
Joined
May 15, 2017
Messages
2,068
I actually have tried it a few times
always looking for a natural remedy
when possible specially now as age sets in
a lot of creaking,popping and aches so
I heard of this watched some docs and did research
before I tried any of it

now for me what I found is all the reds specially
the super mixes,lately though Ifind the blends to be
the best option for me that is ya will have to see
What's best for yourself

Pain relief-this is a great blend

Reds are the best for pain relief I find this blend has been good for me
for all day use

pain relief at night

Best site in Canada I found they also do cod so that's also noice


greens,whites,gold
seem to be good for all day use to relieve all kinda ailments

All reds
seem to be the best for bedtime usage but can also be used
all day they will not however keep your energy going like the others above

I have not noticed any side effects from my usage though I cannot speak for anyone else
I do not mix with any other type of meds or alcohol as I don't drink period
Myself I find it has like a baking type chocolate taste most say gross but
any one who knows baking chocolate know its not that good
to me though it tolerable enough I take a half teaspoon when ever needed
usually it's same as most meds from the dr 2-6 hrs
some mix into their drink or food I dump the teaspoon to middle of my tounge
and take a big swig of coffee or tea warm to hot as cold does not seem to disolve
or go down as good as warm/hot
I have recommended to a few people who were dependent on meds from the drs
that now rely solely on this for their relief
I'm not sure but think it's illegal in the US now
I do hope this helps
 
Last edited:

Lizard King

Veteran
Joined
Oct 20, 2021
Messages
946
I actually have tried it a few times
always looking for a natural remedy
when possible specially now as age sets in
a lot of creaking,popping and aches so
I heard of this watched some docs and did research
before I tried any of it

now for me what I found is all the reds specially
the super mixes,lately though Ifind the blends to be
the best option for me that is ya will have to see
What's best for yourself

Pain relief-this is a great blend

Reds are the best for pain relief I find this blend has been good for me
for all day use

pain relief at night

Best site in Canada I found they also do cod so that's also noice


greens,whites,gold
seem to be good for all day use to relieve all kinda ailments

All reds
seem to be the best for bedtime usage but can also be used
all day they will not however keep your energy going like the others above

I have not noticed any side effects from my usage though I cannot speak for anyone else
I do not mix with any other type of meds or alcohol as I don't drink period
Myself I find it has like a baking type chocolate taste most say gross but
any one who knows baking chocolate know it I swear not that good
to me though it tolerable enough I take a half teaspoon when ever needed
usually it's same as most meds from the dr 2-6 hrs
some mix into their drink or food I dump the teaspoon to middle of my tounge
and take a big swig of coffee or tea warm to hot as cold does not seem to disolve
or go down as good as warm/hot
I have recommended to a few people who were dependent on meds from the drs
that now rely solely on this for their relief
I'm not sure but think it's illegal in the US now
I do hope this helps
Thanks for you're input. It is still legal in USA because I was in vape shop today and got gold bali and green mengda. Then I found a good website that happens to be located where I live that has better deals than in vape shop. My back has been hurting and this stuff works. Also good mood elevation too.
 

redqueen

Star
Joined
May 15, 2017
Messages
2,068
Good to hear Lizard King
as I know at one point they were
talking bout making it illegal

It really does help and it's much better
than what the drs give ya
I'm so happy ya were able to find and try it
I wish more would share as then ya don't have
to take the poisons the drs give that can lead to
what the drs call dependency which is a nice way
to say your addicted but meh semantics eh
mind ya if the dr uses the other word then
they can take all the meds away I know older
people that were on pain relief for over 20yrs
but then the pandemic of addiction started which
no one of course talks about so a lot of the drs here
took the meds altogether or cut them back to a ridiculous
amount that offers no relief which is why I started sharing
the info of Kratom with them as I said the ones I have now
use it as their main relief source

Yeah the gold/greens give ya that relief
but doesn't make ya sleepy like the reds
 
Last edited:

Maldarker

Star
Joined
Mar 23, 2021
Messages
1,274
Its natural like weed i would think not? They're not adding anything to the capsules? Heard about this but i stick with weed myself but if its an analgesic wouldn't mind another natural one in the medical cabinet. Any one heard of KHAT?
 

redqueen

Star
Joined
May 15, 2017
Messages
2,068
Never heard of that Maldarker
what is it?

As far as I know it's just pure kratom
Myself I bought some capsules which
ya can get at any healthy food style shop
it took me maybe an hr to make a 100 so
least this what ya know for sure what's in it

As for it being weedish,nah I do not find that
I use both sometimes,there is a difference
The weed gets ya high usually unless your doing
like me using the CBD instead of THC
even with both kinds of those ya still
get a little of the other in it no matter what

Kratom does NOT get ya high in anyway
It offers relief only I guess if ya took a lot but I can't
answer that as I use a half ts
also from my understanding from my research
it has a ceiling on it so ya can only take so much
before it hits that ceiling after that ya will not get
any further relief from it
It attaches to the same receptors as a pain drug the drs give
I believe weed attaches to different receptors will look again
to make sure if ya want

Everyone I watched testimonies from including DRs
said also that when it comes to kratom
less seems to offer more help
than trying to eat half a package to get high
really I don't think ya can get high
as if it affected me like that I would not
be taking it,all I get is relief from pain
no giggles,munchies nothing I would associate
To the high like from weed though

Again everyone is different
what works for one may not work for another
If ya decide to try
I would recommend starting with a small dosage
and if ya find your not getting relief than take a whole
ts or more the most I have heard others I got if for say
is 1 tbs so after that I can't help with what happens
Drs did say the most it would do is make ya nauseous
It cannot kill ya the one DR was using it to help people
With severe addictions to street drugs ,
the pain meds they gave them
they were all able to get off all of it
He was trying to get so drs could offer it to their patients
as a better solution to the other options

The only difference I find between the different kratom
is the gold/greens/whites offer on top of relief a energy
type boost meaning unlike the reds they do not make ya sleepy
the reds can be used during the day but are more suited to night time
 
Last edited:

Maldarker

Star
Joined
Mar 23, 2021
Messages
1,274
Never heard of that Maldarker
what is it?

As far as I know it's just pure kratom
Myself I bought some capsules which
ya can get at any healthy food style shop
it took me maybe an hr to make a 100 so
least this what ya know for sure what's in it

As for it being weedish,nah I do not find that
I use both sometimes,there is a difference
The weed gets ya high usually unless your doing
like me using the CBD instead of THC
even with both kinds of those ya still
get a little of the other in it no matter what...

The info on kratom is helpful thank you.

Kratom does NOT get ya high in anyway
It offers relief only I guess if ya took a lot but I can't
answer that as I use a half ts
also from my understanding from my research
it has a ceiling on it so ya can only take so much
before it hits that ceiling after that ya will not get
any further relief from it
It attaches to the same receptors as a pain drug the drs give
I believe weed attaches to different receptors will look again
to make sure if ya want

Everyone I watched testimonies from including DRs
said also that when it comes to kratom
less seems to offer more help
than trying to eat half a package to get high
really I don't think ya can get high
as if it affected me like that I would not
be taking it,all I get is relief from pain
no giggles,munchies nothing I would associate
To the high like from weed though

Again everyone is different
what works for one may not work for another
If ya decide to try
I would recommend starting with a small dosage
and if ya find your not getting relief than take a whole
ts or more the most I have heard others I got if for say
is 1 tbs so after that I can't help with what happens
Drs did say the most it would do is make ya nauseous
It cannot kill ya the one DR was using it to help people
With severe addictions to street drugs ,
the pain meds they gave them
they were all able to get off all of it
He was trying to get so drs could offer it to their patients
as a better solution to the other options

The only difference I find between the different kratom
is the gold/greens/whites offer on top of relief a energy
type boost meaning unlike the reds they do not make ya sleepy
the reds can be used during the day but are more suited to night time
Nice ! I don't drink think its terrible also...I like the high from the THC side since this helps the cb receptors in the brain where the CBD acts on the skins cb receptors such a wonderful plant. I like both the THC for me helps my focus PTSD issues and all the cbd helps with the inflammation and if you can get that under manageable control wow just wow on how inflammation affects a person.

WHAT i found about KHAT: seems big in the islamic scene

 

redqueen

Star
Joined
May 15, 2017
Messages
2,068
I'm gonna have to look into the khat
some more thank ya Maldarker for the video

I just never liked drinking or drugs other than the weed
came from a family that was heavy in drugs/drinking
I mean heavyyyyy don't get me wrong when I was
younger I tried both drugs n drinking

I did not mind the weed high and smoked it every night
back then it was just the get ya high kind as we did not
know what we know now with weed
It helped me with my night terrors that we so bad
but being it was illegal I had someone in my family (what a jk eh)
Call cas saying I was stoned outta my mind and not taking care of my children
They came out realized it was not that way and dismissed it

I think my family were trying to get my kids as I would not allow
any of them to see them even to this day
I was on my way to breaking away and disappearing from their life to get away from the abuses
And I was not about to allow my kids near em so they could be abused

drinking I just never liked but to fit in I did it
with friends but quit after getting blacked out a few times
as it brought me back to the feeling of the abuse at home
Not knowing what happened or w/e,it was 2x it happened
that was enough I was done
it's been over 3 decades now actually no I can't say that
I do with the inlaw grandparents/parents take a half
shot of zambucca every Xmas
so I guess I never quit if ya count that
I never wanted/want to be my family
I knew how I felt as a child and wanted better and more for mine

Anyhoo think I over shared a bit sorry if I did
 

Maldarker

Star
Joined
Mar 23, 2021
Messages
1,274
I'm gonna have to look into the khat
some more thank ya Maldarker for the video

I just never liked drinking or drugs other than the weed
came from a family that was heavy in drugs/drinking
I mean heavyyyyy don't get me wrong when I was
younger I tried both drugs n drinking

I did not mind the weed high and smoked it every night
back then it was just the get ya high kind as we did not
know what we know now with weed
It helped me with my night terrors that we so bad
but being it was illegal I had someone in my family (what a jk eh)
Call cas saying I was stoned outta my mind and not taking care of my children
They came out realized it was not that way and dismissed it

I think my family were trying to get my kids as I would not allow
any of them to see them even to this day
I was on my way to breaking away and disappearing from their life to get away from the abuses
And I was not about to allow my kids near em so they could be abused

drinking I just never liked but to fit in I did it
with friends but quit after getting blacked out a few times
as it brought me back to the feeling of the abuse at home
Not knowing what happened or w/e,it was 2x it happened
that was enough I was done
it's been over 3 decades now actually no I can't say that
I do with the inlaw grandparents/parents take a half
shot of zambucca every Xmas
so I guess I never quit if ya count that
I never wanted/want to be my family
I knew how I felt as a child and wanted better and more for mine

Anyhoo think I over shared a bit sorry if I did
No every broken person has a better story then any in hollywood imo. I came from a very abusive dad bad things to my mom she was afraid that he would kill me let alone her. Long story short i should have been a statistic but by the GRACE OF GOD go I.

I ran the gambit of drugs in my youth sins of the father and all.... but just never fixed it the one that really helped me after the military was weed.
 

redqueen

Star
Joined
May 15, 2017
Messages
2,068
I agree Maldarker
Real stories from people that went through
is always better than anything ya get someone acting out on screen

sounds like we had similar lives in a few areas
I'm happy ya were able to find your way out from it
the drugs/drinking I think every victim of abuse of any kind
resort to it as for the moment it helps ya numb out and forget

I tried taking my own life a couple times
each time though help would find me at the last
possible moment
The last time was a changer for me
Here where I live when ya try they have to put in the asylum
for awhile,so soon as I awoke from a 2wk coma that was my
new home for 3wks
Every single friend I had at the time,heck even the few I baby sat for came to see me
not 1 out of my family though
While I was there ,I met a lovely lady who went every yr
on the anniversary of her daughter taking her life
just to get away and just be in her memories of her
we became close in our time there
the strange thing she had the same last name as
me but no relation her daughter was my age when she took
her life which she kept saying how much I reminded her of her
By the end she took a little ring off her necklace that belong to her
daughter and said she would like me to have it and after seeing
that I could not find anyone to come pick me up and take me home she
offered that ride
Her husband came and picked us both up as we drove we chatted
As we pulled up to my door since I did tell her some of why I tried
She and her husband ask me straight out if I would like to come live with them
I sometimes wonder if my life would been different if I said yes
Instead I said no it's fine I'll be alright now and she made me promise her I would
never do anything like that again to look at my ring and remember i
Am loved and special
They both hugged me like I was never hugged n ya could feel that
actual love I really didn't wanna go into my house so I hugged a bit longer
but I could see heads in the window n not happy faces
so I said goodbye before I walked away they gave me their number said
call anytime no matter the time they will always be there for me
And I walked back into my hell on earth and it went right back to normal
The ring got taken from me n I never saw it again the number as well
and I got a 100 questions about what I told them that they would care about
a kid they don't even know I said nothing I barely knew her she just thought I reminded
her of her daughter that was my age that wasn't enough of course so
then began the same ole same ole
And here I am today
I don't know what I am meant to be here for
as all I am really is a disabled mum now
but sometimes I think back on the good I have
been able to do and the lives I have literally saved
and how well my children's lives are
I think that's partly why I am still here ,to save those lives
cause at the time I was the only one there to do so
and to make sure my children get as good a life as I can give

Anyhoo arggggg lol sorry I don't mean
to keep having diarrhea of the text lol
I'll stop now
 
Last edited:

Maldarker

Star
Joined
Mar 23, 2021
Messages
1,274
I agree Maldarker
Real stories from people that went through
is always better than anything ya get someone acting out on screen

sounds like we had similar lives in a few areas
I'm happy ya were able to find your way out from it
the drugs/drinking I think every victim of abuse of any kind
resort to it as for the moment it helps ya numb out and forget

I tried taking my own life a couple times
each time though help would find me at the last
possible moment
The last time was a changer for me
Here where I live when ya try they have to put in the asylum
for awhile,so soon as I awoke from a 2wk coma that was my
new home for 3wks
Every single friend I had at the heck even the few I baby sat for came to see me
not 1 out of my family though
While I was there ,I met a lovely lady who went every yr
on the anniversary of her daughter taking her life
just to get away and just be in her memories of her
we became close in our time there
the strange thing she had the same last name as
me but no relation her daughter was my age when she took
her life which she kept saying how much I reminded her of her
By the end she took a little ring off her necklace that belong to her
daughter and said she would like me to have it and after seeing
that I could not find anyone to come pick me up and take me home she
offered that ride
Her husband came and picked us both up as we drove we chatted
As we pulled up to my door since I did tell her some of why I tried
She and her husband ask me straight out if I would like to come live with them
I sometimes wonder if my life would been different if I said yes
Instead I said no it's fine I'll be alright now and she made me promis her I would
never do anything like that again to look at my ring and remember i
Am loved and special
They both hugged me like I was never hugged n ya could feel that
actual love I really didn't wanna go into my house so I hugged a hit longer
but I could see heads in the window n not happy faces
so I said goodbye before I walked away they gave me their number said
call anytime no matter the time they will always be there for me
And I walked back into my hell on earth and it went right back to normal
The ring got taken from me n I never saw it again the number as well
and I got a 100 questions about what I told them that they would care about
a kid they don't even know I said nothing I barely knew her she just thought I reminded
her of her daughter that was my age that wasn't enough of course so
then began the same ole same ole
And here I am today
I don't know what I am meant to be here for
as all I am really is a disabled mum now
but sometimes I think back on the good I have
been able to do and the lives I have literally saved
and how well my children's lives are
I think that's party why I am still here ,to save those lives
cause at the time I was the only one there to do so
and to make sure my children get as good a life as I can give

Anyhoo arggggg lol sorry I don't mean
to keep having diarrhea of the text lol
I'll stop now
God Bless! No problem some times just typing it out is cathartic.
 

Lizard King

Veteran
Joined
Oct 20, 2021
Messages
946
I placed a big order yesterday for shipment of Kratom. I opened my door a couple hours ago and it was there. I am astounded by how quick it came. It made me so happy I changed the name of thread LOL. Greens, Reds and an extract of Red which they threw in free. I'm feeling like a King.
 

redqueen

Star
Joined
May 15, 2017
Messages
2,068
Nodnoc
I am so happy ya were able to find this
as it really does help I wish more knew about it
It could save lives right now
if they would just promote it a little even
Or at least tell the patients,like the ones
I was helping most of em were on some kinda
opiate,seems like back in the day it was the go to
medication/drug of choice for the Drs

Have ya watched the show dope sick (I think that's the name will check)
It's all about the company that produced em
how they marketed and bribed the Drs to use
it all the while knowing it was addictive like it is

The Drs here didn't give a crap if it
was 20yrs that they were on it
as soon as that pandemic hit they were
cutting people cold turkey here
which is just disgusting in my opinion

That is awesome Lizard King
Let me know if the extract works as good/better
as the powder,I haven't tried em n no one I know has
I do hope it's as good at relief for ya least it was free eh lol
 

Lizard King

Veteran
Joined
Oct 20, 2021
Messages
946
Nodnoc
I am so happy ya were able to find this
as it really does help I wish more knew about it
It could save lives right now
if they would just promote it a little even
Or at least tell the patients,like the ones
I was helping most of em were on some kinda
opiate,seems like back in the day it was the go to
medication/drug of choice for the Drs

Have ya watched the show dope sick (I think that's the name will check)
It's all about the company that produced em
how they marketed and bribed the Drs to use
it all the while knowing it was addictive like it is

The Drs here didn't give a crap if it
was 20yrs that they were on it
as soon as that pandemic hit they were
cutting people cold turkey here
which is just disgusting in my opinion

That is awesome Lizard King
Let me know if the extract works as good/better
as the powder,I haven't tried em n no one I know has
I do hope it's as good at relief for ya least it was free eh lol
Well the extract is in capsules. It says on box Red Vein Maeng Da Botanical Extract Silver made by Optimized Plant Mediated Solutions. They gave them free for any order over $100. It seems very potent. I got big jars of Red Borneo and Green Maeng Da but in capsules. I can't handle putting powder in my mouth it actually makes me gag. You pay more for capsules but for me it is worth it. Although I would consider getting some kind of machine that would make capsules out of the powder because it would save money in the long run. They sell 1000 gram jars of powder so that would make a lot of capsules. I feel like a young pup right now and back pain is but a distant memory LOL.
 

redqueen

Star
Joined
May 15, 2017
Messages
2,068
Ah I didn't know it was capsules
for the extract Lizard King
The ones I was looking at were a tonic

Those are all good types
I have tried both except the extract
so it works then is that what ya mean
by potent?or was it the others ya meant lol
as both are very good,I used red at night green
during the day
I buy the powder and then grab
a bag of a 1000 capsules
at health food store we have
I'm sure any health store will have em

ya don't need no machine its real easy
I used a flat plate or bowl put a good amount of powder
on it and scoop both ends of the capsules together
took like an hr to do about a 100 of em for me and
I am slow lol it's way cheaper as ya said too
 

Lizard King

Veteran
Joined
Oct 20, 2021
Messages
946
Here's a good documentary on Kratom
I watched it when it first came out
so am happy I can share it here as
it is very informative

I got a new shipment yesterday. Bali Gold and White. And super green extract. All caps but my strategy is to pick out of what I have that I like best and then buy big jar of powder. It's more economic and I get tired of swallowing capsules. The White I got yesterday seems to be strongest and am only going to use that in daytime. Sometimes I get itchy but scratching feels good actually pleasurable. I remember whenever I took Vicodin or codeine this would happen. Thanks for video I will watch later. Am watching johnny Depp trial on court tv. Amber Heard is the quintessential Social Justice Warrior.
 
Top