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[QUOTE = "thatshygirl, post: 159597, member: 3078"] Bueno, está bien por bien, aunque todavía tengo que encontrarme con un solo ejército de twt en mi vida para estar dispuesto a buscar este hilo en Google. No vienen aquí, pero he visto videos en YouTube publicados ridiculizando el hecho de que los chicos pueden estar iluminados. Así que creo que la mayoría sabe que existe algún tipo de página donde existen teorías de conspiración sobre ellos. Es solo que ellos piensan que somos un montón de trolls o kpoppies. Si tienen acceso a este y al otro hilo kpop, eso puede ser un verdadero problema, ya que hay muchos spams por ahí. Idk, es solo un desastre. Queremos ayudar, pero al mismo tiempo, a la gente no le gusta que lo ayuden, ¿doble estándar? [/ QUOTE]
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@Christina aww bless you I’m glad you’re ok
Yess Jimin is very insecure in himself this was highlighted in burn the stage and several Vlives I think mk definitely played a part to making it worse but idk
Idk why but I can’t like Jimin anymore and idk why there’s something about him that puts me off and he used to be my bias wrecker I do feel very sorry for him but idk why
 

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@Christina aww bless you I’m glad you’re ok
Yess Jimin is very insecure in himself this was highlighted in burn the stage and several Vlives I think mk definitely played a part to making it worse but idk
Idk why but I can’t like Jimin anymore and idk why there’s something about him that puts me off and he used to be my bias wrecker I do feel very sorry for him but idk why
Ty! I meant to edit it but I think I pressed delete bc my laptop brightness was super low XD
 

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Okay I'm kind of late, a few months ago I posted that I would be attending the Hamilton show (9/23), and some of you guys told me to be careful with the brainwashing with concerts in general. So I got a chance to go to Saturday's as well, where I filmed most of the time in order to watch it later (didn't catch much of the show like everyone else recording). I sat on the first floor but further back so I wasn't able to capture or see all the details that GA people did. On Sunday, not recording I actually noticed everything was hype, yes it was a great show with epic moments, I'm still going though post-concert withdrawal bc they were super extra for Canada with their speeches and audience engagement as some of you may have seen on twt. While I was enjoying the show however, knowing the various symbols & signs the guys use frequently I noticed only one thing which would put me off sometimes while I was jumping around-I think hos did it slightly while rapping so it might not have been on purpose but bruhhh nam would full out point at the audience (captured on the hugeee screen mind you) which is fine but his hands would be pointing using the devil's horns symbol, the most during "I'm Fine", and then once or twice during the other songs. Not sure if that has any significance to I'm Fine specifically but we already know he's the "ringleader" and prob the most "in it" with the higher-ups. I personally think it's being used to get people even more used to accepting symbols without a second thought and to publicly project their connections. Can't believe he's repping at the concerts too though. Also for people who get influenced easily/fangirls, the concerts literally just get them even more attached bc they're actually SO charismatic combined with the fact that their faces are blown up on huge screens & they literally look at the main camera so it feels like they're directly looking at only you. In addition I felt more connected to them seeing them in person which isn't necessarily a bad thing depending on if you keep it just as an experience you had or full on take it to the next level I admit I still miss the actual show as it was good entertainment, and it only took me over a day to get over this feeling of personal "attachment" or this "high" bc I still have a life to get back to & spent my regular scheduled time with God along with what I know so far about their affairs behind the scenes. I can imagine for everyone else that they now think they have a true personal connection with them. Basically overall I liked it but I'm on the edge and careful with how I'm percieving them after it since they'll be coming back to the same area next year according to them (ANOTHER TOUR IN 2019? wth). Any thoughts about the symbol? Ik they use the peace one a lot so I'm not gonna talk about it but the horns one has been coming up a lot more over the past year used by nam.
During the I'm fine song? :0 I think it is related to the song's message. My friend came up with a theory that they dedicate their songs to satan.. Is Namj maybe saying that he is fine living his life next to the dark lord? Anyway I know it's mkultra actually but maybe that's the message they want to deliver.. I am fine next to *horn sign*
I also had the chance to go to their concert on 10th October but idk how something literally stopped me. My driving exam was programmed on the exactly same day with the concert so I had to sell the tickets
And don't worry just pray to God that concert to not affect you negatively and to remain just a nice memory. I will pray for you as well if you want. I am a little scared of their spells tho
 
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About kpop being related to the politics.. I am wondering what could black white and red mean. Also the army-like print..
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May it be related to China?
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"A yemen was an administrative office or residence of a local bureaucrat or mandarin in imperial China. A yamen can also be any governmental office or body headed by a mandarin, at any level of government: the offices of one of the Six Ministries is a yamen, but so is a prefectural magistracy. The term has been widely used in China for centuries, but appeared in English during the Qing dynasty."
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That is from NCT right ? Quite a nice catch. I knew it had some sort of meaning. SM never plays it pure. Also that cherry bomb album cover which looks like a nuclear bomb, that's scary too. Idk if it has to do anything with this album though.
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I kinda start believing NCT plan is more than making some music.
This thing creeped me out a little:
 

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I have kind of become emotionally dependant on BTS. They are the only ones that provided me with happiness. That is very dangerous , especially as a christian. I have become attached to them and it sucks because i didnt know how stop it . Still I find myself going back. I have been very depressed these past years. Completely lost touch with God. Barely leave the house and instead of livng a normal teenage life, I spent hours streaming bts mv videos , watching run episodes, bts crack videos , chatting on amino,writing fanfics, reading conspiracys and twitter. Completely forget about my studying and reality. Distanced myself from my ex friends who always asked me to go with them or spend time with them. But no I pushed them all away from me. I made silly excuses and then they just stopped speaking to me. I realised I was wasting my life away. I had so many things to do but I intentionally gave myself nothing to do but focus on BTS. Strangely I am not really into their music at all. Maybe the truth untold , house of cards and singularity was something I could listen to. But i just loved the feeling of being part of a family. I just wanted to belong. But I also loved the members. Their story seemed so inspiring too me. After watching these threads I realised everything was all a lie and realised I wasted my teen years believing in something that was just fictional.Sometimes the reality that we live in is so bad that we are willing to dedicate our existance to the life of others. I think that is what is happening to many army's and that why it is hard for them to seek the truth. Some of us aren't willing to do anything about iit because we have become so emotionally attached to them.
Don't feel sad, but rather feel relieved. At least you opend your eyes soon enough to be able to realize that they are just puppets. I was the same as you and thought BTS was the most innocent boygroup ever. Geus what? It's not the case. On the contrary...... they are the worst boyband out there considering their subliminal messages and mindspells in their songs.

Hope you can cure your heart and stay away from their music! You're not alone and we are here for you if you need us :)
 

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Taking revenge on the Jp album release ? What is BH doing really...

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bighit-sexual-harassment-discrimination-bts-concerts/
The only ones defending this thing is the international army.. These things might be normal for them but for korean fans i think not .. And i have never went through such a check up of getting hit on the chest even at the airports.. The checkup is gentle..

B1gh1t if taking revenge this way.. Must be a verg childish move.. People will watch the show anyways.. And those taken away memory cards can have personal information from girls.. That could later be used to ruin lives...

Stay safe ladies...
 

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Idk if any of you have mentioned this article before on the thread, but koreaboo really knows what's up. Now I am pretty convinced, some insiders lurk on this thread.

https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/18-secret-kpop-conspiracy-theories-thatll-leave-feeling-paranoid/
This was a fun topic to read

Beetees originally having 8th member who died.. Even if this is a theory.. It's a very creepy one.. As some of them do see a ghost once in a while around them.. :D

And dating scandals to cover up government doings... Something must be up with Edawn and hyun4s scandal ..

Sm will rule the world? I doubt that a bit.. All attention is on b1gh1t.. Even the biggest comebacks won't change that for a while..
 

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Don't feel sad, but rather feel relieved. At least you opend your eyes soon enough to be able to realize that they are just puppets. I was the same as you and thought BTS was the most innocent boygroup ever. Geus what? It's not the case. On the contrary...... they are the worst boyband out there considering their subliminal messages and mindspells in their songs.

Hope you can cure your heart and stay away from their music! You're not alone and we are here for you if you need us :)
Thankyou very much
 

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a bit off topic here...
Do any of you guys know who runs this site and who specifically is this vc?is this one person or more who manages this site?

Actually was googling some vc articles and landed on this blog claiming vc is disinfo agent and are working with the people they claim to expose
Also found a resdit forum of ex vc members who were banned when they started questioning vc articles.They also said that this site was reset more than twice.
https://chaukeedaar.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo-agent/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7marjn
 

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a bit off topic here...
Do any of you guys know who runs this site and who specifically is this vc?is this one person or more who manages this site?

Actually was googling some vc articles and landed on this blog claiming vc is disinfo agent and are working with the people they claim to expose
Also found a resdit forum of ex vc members who were banned when they started questioning vc articles.They also said that this site was reset more than twice.
https://chaukeedaar.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo-agent/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7marjn
Ommg thats rea
a bit off topic here...
Do any of you guys know who runs this site and who specifically is this vc?is this one person or more who manages this site?

Actually was googling some vc articles and landed on this blog claiming vc is disinfo agent and are working with the people they claim to expose
Also found a resdit forum of ex vc members who were banned when they started questioning vc articles.They also said that this site was reset more than twice.
https://chaukeedaar.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo-agent/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7marjn
a bit off topic here...
Do any of you guys know who runs this site and who specifically is this vc?is this one person or more who manages this site?

Actually was googling some vc articles and landed on this blog claiming vc is disinfo agent and are working with the people they claim to expose
Also found a resdit forum of ex vc members who were banned when they started questioning vc articles.They also said that this site was reset more than twice.
https://chaukeedaar.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo-agent/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7marjn
ommg thats really creepy.
 

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a bit off topic here...
Do any of you guys know who runs this site and who specifically is this vc?is this one person or more who manages this site?

Actually was googling some vc articles and landed on this blog claiming vc is disinfo agent and are working with the people they claim to expose
Also found a resdit forum of ex vc members who were banned when they started questioning vc articles.They also said that this site was reset more than twice.
https://chaukeedaar.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo-agent/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7marjn
I heard from members here that this is the Vigilant Christian from YouTube .. Who is now know as the Vigilant one...

The one thing i find a bit odd is that you cannot delete or edit the posts in PMs here..once it's written.. It's written and it will stay.. Unlike threads where you can edit and delete..
 

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I think so and also remember the vigliant christian's content got removed from youtube and facebook. This probably his back up plan. But he said he is making a website soon and isngoing to partner with people. He also made a video once exposing the vigliant citizen. Why do i feel that we are gonna get blocked on here if continue discussing this?
What I am concerned is how many of us feel like there is some people watching over what is being discussed here,like some kind of insiders?And how we are just like flying in circles,the topic keeps repeating,we keep disscussing basically the same thing that was discussed in the past with no conclusive end.It just feels like the thread is being steered in a direction
 

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a bit off topic here...
Do any of you guys know who runs this site and who specifically is this vc?is this one person or more who manages this site?

Actually was googling some vc articles and landed on this blog claiming vc is disinfo agent and are working with the people they claim to expose
Also found a resdit forum of ex vc members who were banned when they started questioning vc articles.They also said that this site was reset more than twice.
https://chaukeedaar.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo-agent/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7marjn
Never be impressed to hear bad things about people trying to expose the truth.
Do you know how people with big influence that are able to distroy their plans end up? Dying. A political person from my country that was recorded saying Iluminatti is controlling our government died soon after he said that.

Iluminatti will do their best to eliminate you. That's why they tryed to spread that thing with the Iluminatti meme to make people believe they are not even real or serious and the ones who expose them are just freaking crazy.

The youtube vloggers that expose them and have many followers can't influence that much as Iluminatti's plans are still not affected. As they are not that important Illu just spread bad info about them searching the most stupid things they can find bad about that person and even making things up. That's what I saw it happened for A call for an uprising.

I am somehow happy I am not a popular person. The way I sincerely speak myself in front of people.. maybe I'd already ended up humilated or worse
 

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Never be impressed to hear bad things about people trying to expose the truth.
Do you know how people with big influence that are able to distroy their plans end up? Dying. A political person from my country that was recorded saying Iluminatti is controlling our government died soon after he said that.

Iluminatti will do their best to eliminate you. That's why they tryed to spread that thing with the Iluminatti meme to make people believe they are not even real or serious and the ones who expose them are just freaking crazy.

The youtube vloggers that expose them and have many followers can't influence that much as Iluminatti's plans are still not affected. As they are not that important Illu just spread bad info about them searching the most stupid things they can find bad about that person and even making things up. That's what I saw it happened for A call for an uprising.

I am somehow happy I am not a popular person. The way I sincerely speak myself in front of people.. maybe I'd already ended up humilated or worse
I am aware of those things but I am highly skeptical of those so called youtubers that claim of exposing things but are rather cashing on peoples fear and making money from it.yes they say some shocking things and that's it,others things they talk about is mostly known to people that do research themselves
 

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What I am concerned is how many of us feel like there is some people watching over what is being discussed here,like some kind of insiders?And how we are just like flying in circles,the topic keeps repeating,we keep disscussing basically the same thing that was discussed in the past with no conclusive end.It just feels like the thread is being steered in a direction
I think they repeat those things because many new viewers join them daily.. So they keep old informations a bit alive this way... If they repeat it.. So that newbies can have an idea what they're talking about..
Old viewers can always skip the content..
 

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Rm did unintentionally made horns on the head of their first lady :D..

It's like 2 best friends taking a pic with one goofing around ruining the other's picture
Lmaoo that's so disrespectful
I know it sounds weird but this looks like a mkultra command.. Like showing the real identity of that lady.
Each time they do handsigns it seems to me they are bringing up their friend satan with them in the photo. Like let's not exclude him
 
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I've just watched for 1 min but when they said their fans have been a major part of this campaign..

maybe I'm not aware enough about this campaign but what they (both bts & fans ) do to protect the children and teens from being violence?

because from what I see on the internet and social medias are just girls drooling over 7 men and always put kinky captions under the videos & images . I saw a lot of kinda worshiping type of comments too. Like, they're overprotecting the boys but harass other people who don't agree with them. Is that what they're trying to make their fans like? beasts ?? Only know how to love themselves and the boys in the wrong way and hate other people?? ok, I'm kinda mad now. I need explanation what what kinda justice have they been doing to the world :) Ik they donated money but I wanna know other deeds they do that can actually influence people in a good way. tq (cuz I can spend any more sec listening to any of them )
To understand what Namjoon meant by the fans being a big part of this campaign, you need to understand a bit of background first.
When Bangtan first came out, they were really hated and constantly slammed, to the point everyday they feel bad about themselves, and even releasing a new song is so stressful for them because they are so afraid that their fans would not like it. But as time goes by many fans constantly send them messages to tell them that we love them, and its ok to show their real selves, their fears, their happiness, their sadness.

That is when the members of BTS started opening themselves up bit by bit.

Over time, they finally came up with this Love Myself campaign, and the Love Yourself Album where a part of the sales of the album will contribute to this campaign, and as you can see the sales volume of the albums are really high. High sales volume = high donation.
Not just albums alone but they sell goods and merchandise where the proceeds will go to the Love Myself Campaign as well.

Maybe to you it seems like the fans "only donated money", but the amount of money donated is no joke, not just to the Unicef campaign, but for other various charities as well. I have seen ARMYs who donated large amounts of donations to various charity organizations in the name of BTS/ BTS Members for their birthdays. And now with the new rule that we can no longer send gifts to the boys for their birthdays, ARMYs in turn use this money to donate to charitable organizations instead.

Aside from money, there are accounts on twitter set up by ARMYs who have professional knowledge on psychology which are open to ARMYs who might need help, to talk to them to help them out of depression, and to spread love and positivity. All these small little actions are accumulated over time and it helps to bring ARMYs closer together and to help spread more love around the world.

Even during fund raising campaigns that is totally unrelated to BTS, when they asked for ARMYs to help RT/comment because one RT gives one dollar, and they will donate up to a maximum of $100k, ARMYs don't hesitate to help get that target reached.

Granted there are a lot of negativity in many places as well, but we all know better than to judge a whole group through a small group of problematic ones right?

Once again, maybe to you donating money doesnt seem like much. But a small amount from many different ARMYs all over the world accumulated can make a big difference.

Hopefully through this you can understand more by what Namjoon meant when he said that they have the best fans in the world.
 
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