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Strap yourselves in sweeties, cause today is your lucky day. A certain faction of the LUMs thought they'd try me so I'm here to piss them off. That's right douches, explain this shit to your superiors.

I'm going to make this as simple as possible so try and keep up.

First and most important rule. Religion and spirituality are two different things.

Religion is a construct created by man to control the masses.

Don't believe me? This is what Christianity tells you; If you are a woman and say no to a man, question a man's actions or think for yourself, you are evil.
The creation myth tells you this straight up. God created man and woman from the same substance (equal) but then Adam had a cry because Lilith had the audacity to say NO to him. He complained to God like the big baby that he was that Lilith wouldn't let him r*pe her so God cloned a female version of him using a part of his rib so she would be more compliant and Lilith, the strong independent woman of the story was literally demonised.

Here you are 20 generations later so brainwashed by this shit that you don't even question it. I've been shown multiple instances on this thread where you say things like, he is so disrespectful to women and in the same breath say, he was forced to wear women's clothes/accessories it must be a humiliation ritual. You have been taught from birth that being a woman/feminine is humiliating. It's not.

This is not God's doing it is man's and you just blindly accept it. Civilization has stalled hundreds of years because women have been told they are unworthy and this really pisses me off.

Rule two. It is admirable that you want to uncover the truth but the truth is hidden under layers and layers of lies. Imagine the truth is the centre of an onion. You are excited because you have peeled off a layer and revealed what is hidden beneath it but all you've done is removed the skin and exposed the first lot of lies. Lies that are designed to trap you. Dig deeper. All this mk ultra cause his hair colour has changed again bullshit is childish. Don't get stuck in the lies they are feeding you.

Rule three. Let's imagine that you live in an apartment with your parents, grandparents, cousins etc. This apartment has windows but you can't see out of them and a door that won't unlock. Everything you know you have learnt within the confines of that room.

One day the door magically unlocks and you step out into the corridor and meet other people that have also just been released from their apartments. They too have only ever learnt whatever knowledge was contained in their rooms and you discover that your truths are not their truths.

One day the elevator opens and someone steps out and tells you things you couldn't imagine from the floors above you and you blindly believe them because they came from the higher levels that you don't have access to, so they must know the truth.

Someone said that this thread is 50 percent truth and 50 percent theory. It's not. The only real truth I have heard here and incidentally what caught my attention, was that person that said every civilsation in history absolutely believed that their religion/gods were real and every subsequent civilization laughed at them.

This person also lives in this apartment block but they have a balcony and access to the fire stairs. They can see that their building is only one in a vast city of buildings. They can see the ocean and the sky above them. They can walk up and down those stairs and look in through the windows that you can't see out of but they still can't step out onto the street.

What I'm trying to explain to you is that you are looking at things from a very narrow and limited perspective and you will never find truth if you believe the bullshit propaganda that the LUMs are spoon feeding you. They target religious types because they are trained from birth to believe whatever is fed to them without using critical thought and if any of them dare to think outside of that box, they label them as satanic and use fear to keep them in line.

The amount of times I've seen 'it's satanic' being thrown around here is ludicrous and proves my point.

Bonus points.

It's amusing how easily you can tell who the Americans are. They are judging ancient cultures based solely on their own experiences. Americans believe everything revolves around them and can be related back to them and try really hard to fit unrelated cultural themes into their narrow perspectives. America is only a few hundred years old. Other cultures are thousands of years old and have a rich cultural history that is completely unrelated to your western ideas.

For those of you who fear the NWO, and believe the propaganda being sold to you by gun manufacturers that you need your guns to fight the powers that be. Let me tell you that guns are no match for the current tech that is available. Your guns will be useless.

The reason why the US won't introduce stricter gun control is not because of constitutional rights, it's because they are using them for population control. Kill enough kids, less babies are born in the next generation. All you dumb-ass Americans keep supporting it.

That's enough for now.
Look, I understand what you're trying to say here. I really do, because some of your opinions are right. And I really apreciate that you took your time to write your opinions here.
You are right when you say that women haven't been respected all this time and they were treated like trash.
But it's not actually because of religion( I am talking about Christianity now, because I am Orthodox Christian, and believe me, I love my faith, because I understand it), but because of the fact that people were not able to understand their own value, and the value of all people in this world and because of a wrong interpretation of the Bible. But, believe me, God never wanted people to be that stupid and make one another suffer. I am a woman and I love it, but it hurts my eyes to see men who are becoming more and more feminine when it comes to fashion and now even choreographes. I am not trying to be mean to those men, but it's just... Ughhh...
Like, look at this performance for example.
My eyes....
Comparing to this, bts are the most manly men alive.
When we are talking about men who are becoming too feminine, we don't say that being a woman is shameful or humiliating, we are just saying that because it's not normal. Men and women are different( biologically, emotionally) and when they are changing their natural roles, the world is turning upside down. And of course, men shouldn't be some wild animals with no emotions, because I discovered that they actually have emotions, and they have a soul and we shouldn't ignore them. But some feminists forget this and they hate men, like they are some perfect saints and men only are guilty of everything and it's not like this.
But yes, you are right, men have done a lot of bad things, but it doesn't mean that they have to be transformed into women with muscles, because they would lose themselves. The same is with women who are becoming more and more masculine. Normality isn't just an abstract concept, it is a reality.
Maybe some things discussed here are a bit exagerrated, but some things here are authentic and very very useful.
 





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About thatshygirl
She ran into some problems; she told me what actually happened. She should have not talked with some hackers and now she keeps getting her vg account deleted. Idk if she wants you to know it too so I ain't gonna give too many detalis.
Hopefully she will come back :( She said she got some info from some people that seemed insiders and she wanted to share it with us.
 





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I’m confused…If they are not “normal people” what are they?............


Happyalone…You truly are an interesting character…

“Hello guys / im so happy to finally join this forum with you, although its a little late this conversation have already more than 800 pages now ^^ but i wanted to be a part of this even by just thanking @Maggieca for making this place, so brilliant of her.
I hope this community grows day after day until the word is spread everywhere because people needs to wake up faster than ever.
god bless all of you” --> Nov 16, 2018, #16,350 – p818

But then something seems to have bitten you…

“The more time that passes the more this forum turns to poison.
Like honestly guys, do you realize how much time you spend spreading false information and negativity about these boys. LIKE what in the hell have they done wrong or bad to this world that you have witnessed with your mother eyes ?? Thats right : 0

But somehow you KNOW they are serial killers, occultists, gays, transgenders, magicians,devil worshippers, XD
I can say too that I KNOW you have killed any person you know who died, you do witchcraft to pass your exams, you are secretely a lesbian, and you will never prove me that those things aren't fact...

And btw how did that make you feel ?

to just make a bottom line to this: you do not know anything about bts,in fact they may be the most angelic sweet boys in this whole world but you could miss on that because you choose to believe what you want to believe.
Love yourself ♡” --> Feb 28, 2019 - #18,218 –p911

“What do you want to do with this knowledge ? End bts ? Get their attention ? Waste your time thinkinh that u are resolving one of the world's top problems ?” --> Mar 4, 2019 - #18,338 - p917

“You make fun of mental disorders, how wonderful !! I guess that's why you never liked bts from the first place because they are woke about the real issues of our generation : like mental illnesses which you dont know if they exist at all but you are just here concerned with these conspiracy theories that have not to do with reality...” --> Mar 4, 2019 - #18,329 - p917

???????????????????????????????????

What happened???


You even created a thread called “Symbolic Pic Of The Day”…

In your recent post (#18,749), you assimilated yourself as an army but:

I'm not fan of them, but I witnessed so many good things they do, and let's say that they have done bad things in this world, one day they will leave it like all of anyways, but what it's going to be left, is the message they passed to our generation !
so many people are very thankful to bts because they made them feel good and happy in their most darkest moments, so many girls are gaining confidence and loving themselves more because of bts, so many lives have changed because of bts's positivity!” --> Feb 28, 2019 - #18,225- p912

“Yall ever realize that mic drop is a song made for people like us ^^ like beyonce said in formation "yall haters corny with that illuminati mess"
Im sure none of yall gain something from reading, searching, analyzing things bts do unless someone pays you for that ;)

Be either a real fan or move the fuck on. I rememeber reading a quote that said " some are busy living their dreams and some are busy explaining those people's dreams"
What kind of knowledge is this ? Its the kind that breaks you not builds you, im sorry to hurt you with my words but yall seem so smart i dont want to see you wasting your intelligence over these losers.♡ ♡ happy new year to all of you ♡ ♡” --> Dec 16, 2018 - #17,162 - p859

Etc :rolleyes:…..

Sometimes, talking too much is not an advantage…If inconstancy in a character and scenario are found then what’s the point?...

You should be very careful Happyalone…

How privileged. Thank you for the spoilers…
yall seem so smart i dont want to see you wasting your intelligence over these losers
Did i lie ? did I FUCKING LIE ? XD I mean you literally gave your time and attention to make a post about my old fucking posts !!
:D
But if you are that curious to know why I said what I said, I will tell you :
I only joined after reading the first pages of this forum, the gold pages where people really cared about facts more than mere personal unpopular irrelevant ( and even sexist ) opinions about the members, I am here because I want to learn more about bts dark side, even without denying that i still love them for their bright side, it's really how it is supposed to be for everyone, you know this person who is involved in bad things and you are interested to know about that only because you love that person for the other good things about him, but you can tell that so many people here are only doing this because they want to damage the good side of bts and not expose their dark side !
If you just hate on bts and reclaim that every single thing about them is bad or evil, ur still not woke on what's really going, ur just a hater !
 





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I dont think we can know if they are bad or good people. If they were fooled and entered this dark world, or if they willing chose to do such things. And if they do these thigns knowing that they're bringing people to worship bad things and to be brainwashed, then they're not good. Thats what i think. But of course some of them may repent and leave the industry
 





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yall seem so smart i dont want to see you wasting your intelligence over these losers
Did i lie ? did I FUCKING LIE ? XD I mean you literally gave your time and attention to make a post about my old fucking posts !!
:D
But if you are that curious to know why I said what I said, I will tell you :
I only joined after reading the first pages of this forum, the gold pages where people really cared about facts more than mere personal unpopular irrelevant ( and even sexist ) opinions about the members, I am here because I want to learn more about bts dark side, even without denying that i still love them for their bright side, it's really how it is supposed to be for everyone, you know this person who is involved in bad things and you are interested to know about that only because you love that person for the other good things about him, but you can tell that so many people here are only doing this because they want to damage the good side of bts and not expose their dark side !
If you just hate on bts and reclaim that every single thing about them is bad or evil, ur still not woke on what's really going, ur just a hater !
AMEN amen preach girl preach you are so right
Are you done?Good now goodbye and next time don't ignore me when I put you to read. U want proof yet u are too lazy to read older info.
YH SO YOU ANNOYING B*CH just stop claiming you know anything when all you do is exactly what you claim we do: interpret things in the way you want.
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I think that there is a possibility that he is clinically depressed, however it is not possible to diagnose someone based on some short clips of them feeling unwell. He is trying to make it seem like everything is ok, but he really wasnt feeling well at all and it showed. It is evident is that he is very tired and sick while being required to perform in front of people many nights in a row. That alone is enough to make anyone look sad and burned out. He was barely able to stand on his feet.


Here is a clip of Jk being unable to walk after the concert.






Michael Jackson was probably killed, doesnt change the fact that he was a p***phile. Far too much evidence, even before his documentrary Leaving Neverland came out. I mean you guys dont know what a person with actual multiple personality disorder is like, it is not this. That is very rare and the victim has gone through some severe abuse at a very young age (5-7). Even war victims dont develop this. Mk ultra is symbolic and represents the elite’s control over their tools. It is not actual mutiple personality disorder which is too severe, a person with it could not hold a public job.
I recommend the followung videos: warning triggering content. First video shows people with MPD, second video entails what kind of abuse during childhood we are talking about. Even this girl didnt develop MPD and she is a victim of satanic ritual abuse of the political elite in the UK.



I'm not knocking your posts at all, however, in this stance, most of these decisions are pure choice. I'm not commenting on Michael being a p***phile, because every person who is a elite member is a p***phile. When I used Michael Jackson as an example, I used him for this reason. Michael started speaking against Sony Records, and had regain rights to his music. That means all of the money that Michael had accumulated over the years for the company went right back to him. That means they were no longer getting his earrings from his music. Michael Jackson turned his own net worth from millions to billions. Sony did not like that decision, he also spoke against Sony Records, and made a mockery out of them. They took Michael Jackson out for that Sole purpose. Michael wanted out completely. However, they killed him.


Same thing with R. Kelly.. He doesn't own any of his music, which is why he is in bankruptcy, and they are trying to take down his legacy with these accusations. Not saying he didn't do any of the things that he is/was accused of, but there is always a reasoning behind the madness.

I call multiple personalities demons. I believe in possession, and being tempted by the cares of this world. (Not going to preach lol). When Taehyung really wants out, you will see scandals happening, and the scandals will pop out of thin air. Like I said, watch Bohemian Rhapsody. When Freddie Mercury Fired his Manager, the manager started telling all of his business. That he slepy with men, had a disease and all. (Which Freddie Mercury did do those things). However, Freddie tried to become a better person, and that's when the scandals started to come out.
 





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I'm not knocking your posts at all, however, in this stance, most of these decisions are pure choice. I'm not commenting on Michael being a p***phile, because every person who is a elite member is a p***phile. When I used Michael Jackson as an example, I used him for this reason. Michael started speaking against Sony Records, and had regain rights to his music. That means all of the money that Michael had accumulated over the years for the company went right back to him. That means they were no longer getting his earrings from his music. Michael Jackson turned his own net worth from millions to billions. Sony did not like that decision, he also spoke against Sony Records, and made a mockery out of them. They took Michael Jackson out for that Sole purpose. Michael wanted out completely. However, they killed him.


Same thing with R. Kelly.. He doesn't own any of his music, which is why he is in bankruptcy, and they are trying to take down his legacy with these accusations. Not saying he didn't do any of the things that he is/was accused of, but there is always a reasoning behind the madness.

I call multiple personalities demons. I believe in possession, and being tempted by the cares of this world. (Not going to preach lol). When Taehyung really wants out, you will see scandals happening, and the scandals will pop out of thin air. Like I said, watch Bohemian Rhapsody. When Freddie Mercury Fired his Manager, the manager started telling all of his business. That he slepy with men, had a disease and all. (Which Freddie Mercury did do those things). However, Freddie tried to become a better person, and that's when the scandals started to come out.
MJ got his hair and head burned very badly during one Pepsi commercial maybe it was a wake up call who knows. But they also say that the elite gave him vitiligo because they didn't want a colored person to be the king of pop. There are so many rumors. And even his children were born from other people he wasn't their biological father, which I found weird why didn't he want to be their biological father? Everything is rumors if you ask me. Those men should go through a lie detector. Because they are and have been money hungry people.



 





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MJ got his hair and head burned very badly during one Pepsi commercial maybe it was a wake up call who knows. But they also say that the elite gave him vitiligo because they didn't want a colored person to be the king of pop. There are so many rumors. And even his children were born from other people he wasn't their biological father, which I found weird why didn't he want to be their biological father? Everything is rumors if you ask me. Those men should go through a lie detector. Because they are and have been money hungry people.



all the current allegations are just another ploy to tear down his reputation and legacy too, nothing new as to what MJ has been facing even when he was alive. Mainstream media including that "documentary" have no reliable and relevant facts attached to their stories to prove him guilty of these accusations so I don't find them credible. If people were to do their own research on this subject and timelines, they'll understand what's real.
 





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Wow.....just wow..........for a while,been literally saying that this is what the company is planning to do(planning to sell shares) and they go and do just that.............guess I called it:)
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-891#post-186255

However,
There are already reports denying this sale
https://www.soompi.com/article/1312...s-reports-of-bang-shi-hyuk-selling-his-shares
https://www.allkpop.com/article/201...sold-his-equity-in-the-company-for-57-million

But..........they didn't make a definitive denial of the deal........they simply said that the details can't be specified and those in the comments are guessing that maybe he did sell the shares after all,but is planning to keep it a secret for now.
So,it looks like they really are going public and all the media play we've been seeing over the past few weeks including the scandals(however unrelated they seem...... https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-923#post-192061) is to drum up the goodwill of the company so as to inflate the price of the stocks before an ipo.......Wonder why that one reporter spoke of bankruptcy......since,he mentioned that,there is only good news about the company.
Also, @cadiz under the twitter post you mentioned,fan(atic)s are contemplating to buy the stocks themselves so that they can own the company and the groups......yes,a different level of dedication or desire to literally possess them........they know that who owns the company owns the groups so,planning to do just that..........but the company is not foolish to give up on their golden goose that easily.

Right now,the boss owns 50.88% of the shares while his cousin owns around 30%.....it's funny how they have around 20% unaccounted shares which I believe are held by the bt3 and other staff of the company..........that is one of the tricks of a startup company or a company that starts small.......it offers stocks to its employees(as an incentive) so that everyone works to increase it's value which will in turn reap them profits........facebook did it as well in the beginning.
As for the supposed sale of shares.......there are many likely scenarios.
it could be more likely that bt3 members itself bought the shares (it may even be a part of their new contract)of around 8%(which still makes the boss,the biggest share holder with 42%).......they've each been making around 10 million a year over the past few years and with their families chipping in,it could be possible for them to buy the shares(value around 50 million)...........
with their supposed biggest comeback around the corner...............the company's plans to go public while recruiting more groups(auditions were already announced)...........and their impending enlistment...........all these reasons could make this a ripe opportunity for them to make a lot of money if they invest in the company now.
Or .....Jyp really bought the shares as part of the rumoured merger between the two companies but they don't want to make it public just yet due to the recent report of the four companies' sales and profits over the last financial year........and any reports of the mergers now will sound like attempts to break the fair competition rules of the companies and unnecessarily draw attention to the deal.
Or.....some western companies or someone influential in the government bought the shares as part of their promotion deal for the comeback and have to keep it secret due to confidentiality clause..........bigheat would milk publicity from anything so the reports came of the sale......but when the purchasing company/entity reminded the confidentiality clause,they had to retract the report.......however,bigheat being bigheat,they didn't overtly deny it thus keeping it open for speculation.
Or .....there really was no deal and they are simply trying to make buzz to guage the investor's interest in the company and decide whether to go public or wait.


On a side note.........whenever there are reports about the company making deals,there are a lot of comments that it could be jinnie......people are joking that he should take over the company,for some reason..........with that old news of him buying an apartment in the same building as the company's dormitories for trainees and people speculating that he might be the one in most contact with the company that way........and he was the one wearing the hooved shoes in some photoshoots and the one who gave tea wings in bs&t in satanist's backwards version...........
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/bts-discussion-thread.3453/page-871#post-178498
so,it makes one wonder.
yep, and i believe he is in debt with the company, so your theory could be right
 





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Yes, this next comeback is inspired by Murray Stein's book Jung’s Map of the Soul: An Introduction. A Jungian Analyst name Laura London spoke on this and BTS.

Q: If we are identifying with only one of the masks we wear then would you say that we are not in touch with the Self, that we abandoned it?

A: It's possible, yeah, it's possible. Optimal is that you can play the role consciously, more or less consciously, without losing yourself in it and without identifying with it.

And I was quite impressed by Kim Namjoon, RM as he is called, I guess he is the leader of the BTS group, when he spoke at the United Nations, Generation Unlimited speech. The speech he made I watched couple of times on YouTube. And what impressed me about that was that he kept the distinction carefully between who he was as a boy growing up in a small village outside of Seoul, Korea and who he is publicly and famously now - a star and the firmament of the entertainment world. And if he were to identify with that role totally he would lose contact with himself, with the boy he was, with the human being that he is. He would be un-grounded.

And when that happens then you are out of contact with the Self and you are terribly vulnerable to what other people think and say about you. Because once you enter into the public domain everything depends on their admiration, their approval, their lifting you up to the pedestal. And when they stop you would have nothing, you would be empty. And then you would have to go on a quest for the Self and find your link again to the core of yourself. But that core of yourself usually is best discovered through going back and tracing your history and looking into your childhood and your heritage and your family. And then even beyond that to a kind of archetypal or transcendent sense of Self that underlies everything.

Q: Just to give briefly a little bit of background on BTS: there are seven members of the band, they are all men. Not going to call them boys because they range in age from 21 to 26. And the gentleman you were just referring to, RM, he is the translator of the group, I believe he is the only one who speaks English, he is 24 years old, he is so articulate, gave such an eloquent speech..

A: Very moving speech, very, very touching.

Q: Yes, it was. And it was in September of last year. And just a couple more things. They were the most retweeted celebrities in the world in 2017-2018. And in October they were featured on the cover of Time magazine, their international edition, as the next generation leaders. So it has been just a whirlwind for both you, Dr. Stein and myself on twitter this past week of all the attention that our tweets have been getting by the BTS ARMY which is what their fan-base is known as.

A: Well, there were some questions that came in from the fanbase that I would like to address if you could read them off to me, Laura.

Q: Yes, so the first question I have here from twitter, this is from Kookie Crumbles, she asks: I would love an open ended question to Dr. Stein about how he first became aware of BTS's interest in and focus on his and Jung's work and what he would most want to convey to people meeting Jung and the concept of Persona for the first time.

A: Well, let me start with how I met BTS. At my age I'm quite out of touch with that Post-Millennial or Millennial generation although I have grandchildren in that age group. So I haven't heard anything about BTS. I live in Switzerland, sort of out of the way when it comes to popular culture here. And I'm very involved in Jungian world and I don't know how many Jungian analysts worldwide know about BTS although I have asked some of my colleagues and a few of them have acknowledged that they have patients who are fans of BTS (lol). But it came to my attention from a Japanese student at the school in Zürich who asked me: did you know that your book is being recommended on the web-site of the BTS group? And I asked him who that was and he told me: they are very well-known in Japan, they have a huge following there. So I googled it, looked at it and sure enough, my book, Jung’s Map of the Soul, was listed along with Demian by Hermann Hesse and The Art of Loving by Erich Fromm. And I felt in very good company! My goodness how did I get there? And then I have discovered later that they have taken quite an interest in Jung's work, that Jung's name is mentioned occasionally in some of their songs. And then suddenly I was told, I guess a week or so ago, that their new album is titled Map of the Soul: Persona. And of course that floored me! And I then was contacted by ARMY, the fan-group, who discuss the meaning of their lyrics and so on, I have become more familiar with them. And I must say I'm thrilled that they have taken an interest in Jung and in my book.
She finishes here:
That Jung's message and Jung's vision is being transmitted to people who otherwise would never hear about him or pay any attention to what he has to offer. Because I think what Jung has to offer in this century is a vision of wholeness and a vision of integrity and human rights that would be so valuable for people all over the world to come into contact with and to study and to integrate into their daily life. Jung's message is a very hopeful one. That our unconscious is a spark of light, it is creative, it has much to offer to us if we pay attention to it, it gives us inner guidance. And really his emphasis on the sacredness of the individual and the importance of the individual to take responsibility for his or her own life and to take responsibility for the planet and for the world. I think that's the message that we really need today and that's what I hope would come across - that we need to be strong individuals, we need to be able to name ourselves and find ourselves and to take responsibility for the world around us.

Psychology; it's theories and concepts are always modifying, so for her to conclude that the unconscious is "a spark of light" is ignorant and flat out dangerous. The majority of the ARMY fandom don't even have access to proper mental health treatment, let alone qualified therapists who can perhaps help them navigate their problems so why promote this mystical methodology? The unconscious can hold VERY dark things too, that sometimes is best to be left alone if you don't have proper guidance from a professional.

She isn't really honest with herself, the majority of ARMY don't want to understand themselves APART from BTS.

I like psychology but understand that it has it flaws. A lot of people like her romanticize Carl Jung. He was misogynist, he had sex with clients, he suffered from schizophrenia, he deeply criticized Christian theologians, he was apart of a cult and practiced occult magic.

Laura London practices Transcendental Mediation, Kundalini Yoga, astrology, Tibetan Buddhism. I can't take her seriously honestly, especially on her views on RM. Did she bother to read the lyrics from his mono mix-tape? He's still disturbed by his own celebrity. He hates it. He is lost in it, he's fragmented like the rest of the members.
 





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The mysterious Jung: his cult, the lies he told, and the occult
https://www.hgi.org.uk/resources/de...terious-jung-his-cult-lies-he-told-and-occult

  • "....It began with a deification experience in late 1913 while he was inducing visionary states in himself what he was later to interpret as an initiation into an ancient Hellenistic mystery cult. Mithras..."
  • "....So, getting back to the cult issue, you have a charismatic leader who claims to be in contact with a transcendence reality and, by being in contact with him, you can also, potentially, be in contact with that transcendent reality. Moreover, you can only do it through Jung's form of analysis, which he re-frames during World War I as a kind of religious initiation..."
  • "....Jung saw psychoanalysis as path of redemption, of revitalization, of rebirth. Indeed, he wrote of psychoanalysis becoming a totaling world-view saying: “great is the power of the psychoanalytic truth, and it will prevail”. For him, psychoanalysis was the new salvation of the world, with Jung as the prophet who understood its religious nature. Religion, he believed, could only be replaced by another religion..."
  • "...He was saying that gods ruled the collective unconscious. I'm simply saying that Jung was using, or rather hiding behind, psychological jargon to reintroduce the Hellenistic cosmos..."
  • "...If you were actually somebody in need (as Edith Rockefeller was, she was on the edge of a breakdown) Jung basically just opened up your head to his crazy ideas and made it fuzzier. His techniques took away people's ability to focus their attention and to separate out thoughts. Their cognitive resources were just shot to hell after a while because all he did was induce visions all the time. His patients were constantly lost in their dreams and visions, looking for mythic symbols, signs of Greek gods and goddesses..."