BTS discussion thread

[wow]

im just saying, we have discussed this topic of praying for them or not a lot, so this is not new to me, but i believe that there will be times where we will regret praying for them, im not a judge, or even worse, god, but i know that they are not worth my prayers at all, its up to you if you want to pray for them or not but wasting your energy and your prayings for them? thats not worth it, they dont need our help or prayers, youre paying too much attention on them that you wanted to pray for salvation and mercy for them and it is not good, just let them do their own thing, because i believe that your prayings wont help that much, pray for someone else and just forget about them, stop obsessing over them to the point that you wanted to pray for them, its not worth it. and of course, you are not a judge too, nor a god, so lets just let god do what god wants to do to those boys, god is a fair judge, its up to god to save them or give them an unmerciful pain in life or hell.

 

[Hira Javed Khan]

We keep talking about how everything is scripted and direct in music industry in this thread..
And how everything revolves around money and fame.
This is not a matter of someone's salvation or protection. It's simply about who wants what..
They're fine with what they do.
And the type of advertisements they've been doing are a solid proof of how irrelevant and scripted their lifestyle is..
I mean who the hell in his her sane mind would want to put such famous musicians in advertisements of such sorts?
As if they're just using them as objects to sell their products..
It's all pointless and very scripted.
We should have nothing to do with their personal lives, rather try to avoid being attached to them emotionally..
As it's vague. They'll do what they do.
They'll be what the they want to be.
Us praying, feeling remorse has nothing to do with them and their lifestyles..
Still. No offense to people who still want to pray.
Pray as much as u want.
But just don't advertise your sympathy towards them like this.
This thread is not about showing compassion or empathy towards them. It's about exposing them.
And directing people away from them for the devil to loose it's hold on innocent people.
Guys simply. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
It's either this, or that. That's it..

 

[Hopeful]

J00ns fancafe post..
Title is GOODBYE..
And the post is.... Weird? ..
Maybe some comeback hint or some song....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072155944992165888

 

[gisellex]

J00ns fancafe post..
Title is GOODBYE..
And the post is.... Weird? ..
Maybe some comeback hint or some song....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072155944992165888

left me feeling weird after reading it .......

 

[ariadial]

J00ns fancafe post..
Title is GOODBYE..
And the post is.... Weird? ..
Maybe some comeback hint or some song....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072155944992165888

Can somebody who is fluent in english please tell me if they got what he is talking about. I just don't understand the whole post. He is either really poetic, sending signals or just too deep in his ideas but wasn't able to transcript them well. Enlighten me. Everything is about abstract theories with them I remember feeling really stupid when I was in the fandom

 

[Hopeful]

Here is another translation ..
Maybe this will make more sense in some things he is trying to say.. But still .. Weird..
I don't know what's happening .. Kind of feels like a depressed letter..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072175014546305024

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1072175355874598913

All the translations are messed up i guess.. Or maybe the letter really itself is messed up

 

[Hopeful]

From what can be seen...it seems like taking stock of the whole year and how he is chose to be in the thick of things though he didn't feel like,the feeling of not accomplishing much,being jealous of others...there is also talk of contrast sides(busy and idle)and how he manages both(alters?)..then,talk about someone else assuring him that they are not as perfect as he thinks they are....and the glass' part...'transparent outside but too thick inside"....it probably means that the person(him or others) or situation might seem open and easy to understand but it is really hard to breakthrough ...as in really comprehend...because it is really thick inside...it might mean though one seem to understand they really don't.....it could be a reflection of thoughts at the end of the year(hence the title goodbye as in bidding bye to the year) or it could be lyrics (or even concept)for a new song....can't be surprised if the name of the song(or album)is goodbye...it might even be his goodbye to the fans and the band as someone suggested that he might embark on a solo career.

On a side note,went to the link to the twitter and read the fan reactions....most of them feel sad and depressed..some even claim to be crying....what is happening to these people...why all the sadness?shouldn't the band give them joy?why does the band make everyone depressed?How can they be next gen leaders when all they do is make people depressed?

He made everyone depressed

I can see that too
. And people are now posting his pics and wanting to hug him and stuff

 

[Frozenrose]

this translation is a lot better and easy to understand....Like I said...it is looking back at the year and writing about how he feels right now...showing the insecure self...talking about how he was so sure of himself earlier but not anymore....talking about two kinds of people and taking a middle path...calling himself ambiguous...this train of thought will strike a chord with many young people...'the talk of insecurities and claiming to be different and jealous of others who are so sure about themselves...and how no one knows their real selves because of the thick glass...also the 'sometimes foggy,sometimes clear'part could be about depression...this will hit all the right points...especially at this part of the year when many people are going through the same emotions...some fans were even commenting that the post came at the right time and helped them...so,once again they managed to keep their hold on the sheeple with a topic close to the youth

This is the typical emo "depressed" fakeness from back in 2000s. A typical following of the formula of such bands - it starts with songs on the happier side, then suddenly about depression and then it goes into homosexuality/drugs/being lost/depression, etc. Him saying things like that is all part of the agenda to make their fans feel the same and play with the emotions so they can keep romanticising BT3's struggles. Anyone who has followed bands from 10+ years ago know this is the path they follow; then, one of the members die/leave but they keep on going; then, their popularity fades but after some time they come back again. This is why it's better to stay away from groups because it's all a play on your emotions through the fake "we are together into this" mentality. It's basically idolization of those people and the lies they keep telling/singing about.
So yes, those boys know what they're doing and are responsible for deceiving all those people. You know why they keep doing it? Because they need a crowd of brainwashed fans who will only keep on coming on their concerts/buy their albums if they keep feeding them lies. I really don't see how some of the users still try to excuse them. Stop letting your emotion blinding you - this is the place where satan loves the most because this is also how he wants you to see him, as the innocent one. It's really a road to hell.
I'telling you this as an old fan of many emo and jrock groups - bt3 are following the same guide steps.
Depression talks are the way to open the next big agenda - LGBTQ. It's the prelude for why people are depressed - because they can't be themselves and open bout their feelings. This is the reason why they are truly the different group of kpop and why they will write "history" but in exchange of their souls.
There's no such thing as them not understanding and not knowing what they do. Take that out of your heads. Would you agree to go in front of so many people and lie about yourself? No, right? Why? Because you know you will look at them and lie to them. Ask yourself why they keep up with it? The answer is simple - because only this way they can get the fame and money they want. They do this daily and know they lie each second they look at the camera and fake their personalities. It's their free wall but the bet here is big - they're responsible for using those teens for satisfying their own flesh and lust. There's nothing godly in them and will never be.

 

[rottielover]

Yes....making people depressed while they get ready to welcome a new year..not a good way to start a new year,is it?But that is the propaganda....you don't listen these songs if you are happy(because of their lyrics...they are written to match only certain emotions to connect with people)..you have to be depressed so that you can go to these songs and make yourself happy...because they understand how you feel..sad.. and they put your emotions in words...do they,really?Are we sure that it isn't the other way around?you hear the song and after listening many times,you start to feel what it says...depressed....(brainwashing)And they give a reason to celebrate the new year..'I'm thankful for the year...because bee tea sss exist'..It's like they are the lifeline for the fans,what would happen without them?...in that context,they really are the next gen leaders...mass hypnosis and dependence....how can they(fans) break out of this?Is their redemption?...Well...'it's like this and like that'

they are serving the purpose that they're hired to be..."idols" (cue song "IDOL"), making people see tunnel vision of only them as the source of everything and forgetting about other things that should be in priority. these guys are just humans like us and not gods. What about the One who created our own souls and being? Sadly we live in a world today where people rather worship and serve the creation rather than the Creator. It's one thing to be inspired by an important public figure but its totally a different and sad thing when the person and/or thing you admire becomes an obsession and its starts influencing everything you feel and do and realizing it's takes control of your own identity.

 

[ShiningCarat14]

This is the typical emo "depressed" fakeness from back in 2000s. A typical following of the formula of such bands - it starts with songs on the happier side, then suddenly about depression and then it goes into homosexuality/drugs/being lost/depression, etc. Him saying things like that is all part of the agenda to make their fans feel the same and play with the emotions so they can keep romanticising BT3's struggles. Anyone who has followed bands from 10+ years ago know this is the path they follow; then, one of the members die/leave but they keep on going; then, their popularity fades but after some time they come back again. This is why it's better to stay away from groups because it's all a play on your emotions through the fake "we are together into this" mentality. It's basically idolization of those people and the lies they keep telling/singing about.
So yes, those boys know what they're doing and are responsible for deceiving all those people. You know why they keep doing it? Because they need a crowd of brainwashed fans who will only keep on coming on their concerts/buy their albums if they keep feeding them lies. I really don't see how some of the users still try to excuse them. Stop letting your emotion blinding you - this is the place where satan loves the most because this is also how he wants you to see him, as the innocent one. It's really a road to hell.
I'telling you this as an old fan of many emo and jrock groups - bt3 are following the same guide steps.
Depression talks are the way to open the next big agenda - LGBTQ. It's the prelude for why people are depressed - because they can't be themselves and open bout their feelings. This is the reason why they are truly the different group of kpop and why they will write "history" but in exchange of their souls.
There's no such thing as them not understanding and not knowing what they do. Take that out of your heads. Would you agree to go in front of so many people and lie about yourself? No, right? Why? Because you know you will look at them and lie to them. Ask yourself why they keep up with it? The answer is simple - because only this way they can get the fame and money they want. They do this daily and know they lie each second they look at the camera and fake their personalities. It's their free wall but the bet here is big - they're responsible for using those teens for satisfying their own flesh and lust. There's nothing godly in them and will never be.

I love how your posts are always so thought out! I agree with a lot of what you said

they are serving the purpose that they're hired to be..."idols" (cue song "IDOL"), making people see tunnel vision of only them as the source of everything and forgetting about other things that should be in priority. these guys are just humans like us and not gods. What about the One who created our own souls and being? Sadly we live in a world today where people rather worship and serve the creation rather than the Creator. It's one thing to be inspired by an important public figure but its totally a different and sad thing when the person and/or thing you admire becomes an obsession and its starts influencing everything you feel and do and realizing it's takes control of your own identity.

yes they are an unhealthy obsession and you know people actually turn gay because of these idols they think they’re something they’re not and are so manipulated in this ideology it’s scary

God tells us to pray at all occasions and for everyone. He wants us to love everyone and be merciful and forgiving. If you say that they aren't worth your prayers then I guess their souls aren't worth saving either?
I guess you forget that they have SOULS just like you. You want them to burn in hell forever?
Instead of spreading God's love you say they aren't worth praying for?
Stop judging and saying things which CONTRADICT God's Word.


EVERYONE deserves to be prayed for, God doesn't favour some more than other, you hypocrite.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9 KJV

I absolutely agree
Satan is capable of anything and is the true evil Unfortunately like Satan does he lured them in the wrong path
I guarantee you we have all been lured in some sort of way by him at one point but look most of us are here thanks to God I am also on the side that If God wants to forgive an individual no matter how small or big their sins are they will be forgiven
I have to deal everyday with Satan and at points it gets so bad these boys were probably prone to a 10000x more evil and with all the brainwashing they were probably easy
However regardless of this they still CHOSE to carry on and for that I don’t think they’re completely innocent if they truly want forgiveness they should find God fast and pray for redemption with all they’ve got

 

[Frozenrose]

Sure, there's nothing godly in them but was there really something godly in YOU too, before God saved you through His grace? Why are you guys pretending to be so holy when we are ALL sinners who deserve eternal death?
Instead of acting like this you could pray for the salvation of their souls so that they may experience God's grace too.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9 KJV

I don't act so holy and that's why I have shared all my sins multiple times here and in the thread. But do you know what's the difference between me and them? Even back when I sinned deliberately I knew it was against my Creator. And mind you very well that nobody had talked to me about God. I started sinning when I was around 4 in a sexual manner and even at such a young age I knew with all my soul what was I doing. I felt the demonic presence every time and begged God to save me and knew He is the truth! I kept struggling with this sin for many years because of lack of a male figure in my family but not once when I sinned did I not know what was I doing, NOT ONCE.
As cretions in the image of God we knpw since very young when we do sth against Him. It was the same with them and anyone else.
So back on the difference - I know that I'm a sinner and that's why instead of trying idolising myself to get the best this life, I struggle daily in my battle with the help of God instead on getting out there and participating in the deception by pleaaing my flesh. This always involves cunning ways in order to achieve it. I was on the piedestal in real life while I was using everything I could - looks, cuteness, good manners, fake morals. The moment I prefered to follow God and stopped involving myself into lies I lost all of the attention I was striving on. You know why this happened? Because people want to keep supporting the illusion created by our common efforts so everything that's against God get normalised.
That's why I'm telling that those boys want this fame by watching other celebrities on the tv. I'm completely sure God has tried to stop them countless times but they still rejected Him. But right now they are at an age when they have no excuses. They get all of what they have by manipulation. There is no thing as them being the used ones. They take part into it. Do you believe they don't know about the shady ways that are used by their company? If you know about it, then why would you stay there? If you know that what you say and do is scripted, why don't you leave? Because the desire of your flesh are stronger than the deaire to be with God.
They don't want God and most probably won't return to Him. Stop with all of " They are still young and maybe don't realise it."
That's why you will know them by their fruits!
That's why I vhose to speak the truth and follow God instead on shuting my mouth so I can keep my perfect world of pleasing my flesh. I chose to carry my cross instead of my flesh. Not to follow my emotions but God's guidance.
Take my message however you want. I'm not here presenting myself as the perfect sinless person and never did I do that. Instead I'm sharing what God has lead me to do because otherwise I would be accountable for that. I don't care if you hate me now. One day God will rewind this very moment and I want to be found doing His work instead on looking at those comments and not doing anything so as not to hurt anyone's feelings. I'm really sick and tired of this fake politeness.

 

[rottielover]

This seems to be an old cover song by the guys before their debut, the lyrics were kinda weird especially during the R M 's rap coz he talks about "poop(?)" but doesn't he claim he's an atheist? then why does he mention God in these lyrics? I found this as an odd and not so great cover of the song with lyrics they added. As usual, comments on video showing anything beetees related as "amazing".

 

[Hopeful]

Rust?

No ... Cross the R.. Add the L.. Make it Lust...
And Rm. Is holding the can of spray paint ..

 

[wow]

God tells us to pray at all occasions and for everyone. He wants us to love everyone and be merciful and forgiving. If you say that they aren't worth your prayers then I guess their souls aren't worth saving either?
I guess you forget that they have SOULS just like you. You want them to burn in hell forever?
Instead of spreading God's love you say they aren't worth praying for?
Stop judging and saying things which CONTRADICT God's Word.


EVERYONE deserves to be prayed for, God doesn't favour some more than other, you hypocrite.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9 KJV

i think you misunderstood my words, stop being pressed, im just saying that if you want to pray for them, go ahead, im not forcing you not to, but im just giving my opinion (what this thread is meant to be made) that they are not worth your prayers, i dont give a damn about them, and i dont give a damn about you, you are you, you do you, so if you want to pray for them, go ahead, but does praying for them makes your life better? does praying for them gives you happiness? does praying for them really worth your time considering theyre just humans who has been lured by the devil and finally succedeed because theyre just that greedy?

life is a test to determine which people deserves heaven or hell, and the afterlife is the REAL life, you want to pray for them? sure girl go ahead, im not bothered by it, but dont be sad if your prayings wont help them.

 

[wow]

This thread is so toxic. I haven't seen so much hate concentrated in one place in a long time. its hilarious watching all these saintly God fearing people accusing others of murder r*pe satanism witchcraft blah blah blah blah and wishing for their deaths.
The 'elites' are laughing their asses off at how easy it was to manipulate you. They just sitting back watching you eat up all the bullshit propaganda they put out there that you just soak in and spit back out.
Newsflash they don't give a shit about the 'celebs'. They don't need to. its you we want, the pure naive easily led souls and look how easily we got you. You ain't woke, you've been manipulated and lied to by people way smarter than you and now they have you doing their dirty work for them.

Congratulations, job well done

please stop talking, thanks.

 

[yoongiyoongi]

im just saying, we have discussed this topic of praying for them or not a lot, so this is not new to me, but i believe that there will be times where we will regret praying for them, im not a judge, or even worse, god, but i know that they are not worth my prayers at all, its up to you if you want to pray for them or not but wasting your energy and your prayings for them? thats not worth it, they dont need our help or prayers, youre paying too much attention on them that you wanted to pray for salvation and mercy for them and it is not good, just let them do their own thing, because i believe that your prayings wont help that much, pray for someone else and just forget about them, stop obsessing over them to the point that you wanted to pray for them, its not worth it. and of course, you are not a judge too, nor a god, so lets just let god do what god wants to do to those boys, god is a fair judge, its up to god to save them or give them an unmerciful pain in life or hell.

I don't think its good to be so quick to loose hope in people though I mean yes I understand you point perfectly but to some extent you can't really say your prayers for them would be in vain or anything or have no form of imapact on their lives . I get they're evil , shameless ,fake etc but at least ... Well try to look at the other sides of things they may actually need help really a majority of these idols are under heavy control and the split opportunity they get to express themselves either through music , actions etc they are usually overlooked omg I hope this makes sense I don't think Amy thing I've said so far does lol ooooh and please don't try assume the reason why I'm stating these things is because I'm still attached to them or anything I'm just a girl who likes having hope when she's aware there is hope and is very emphatic and lastly it sounds like you are very pessimistic here no hate at all though !!! Please don't misinterpret me ((

 

[yoongiyoongi]

im just saying, we have discussed this topic of praying for them or not a lot, so this is not new to me, but i believe that there will be times where we will regret praying for them, im not a judge, or even worse, god, but i know that they are not worth my prayers at all, its up to you if you want to pray for them or not but wasting your energy and your prayings for them? thats not worth it, they dont need our help or prayers, youre paying too much attention on them that you wanted to pray for salvation and mercy for them and it is not good, just let them do their own thing, because i believe that your prayings wont help that much, pray for someone else and just forget about them, stop obsessing over them to the point that you wanted to pray for them, its not worth it. and of course, you are not a judge too, nor a god, so lets just let god do what god wants to do to those boys, god is a fair judge, its up to god to save them or give them an unmerciful pain in life or hell.

why would you regret praying for someone or people if you know you did it for a greater good ?

 

[yoongiyoongi]

I agree so much you guys are so knowledgeable now I regret some things I type here that's why I like considering other peoples viewpoints first sjsjsjsjajan

We keep talking about how everything is scripted and direct in music industry in this thread..
And how everything revolves around money and fame.
This is not a matter of someone's salvation or protection. It's simply about who wants what..
They're fine with what they do.
And the type of advertisements they've been doing are a solid proof of how irrelevant and scripted their lifestyle is..
I mean who the hell in his her sane mind would want to put such famous musicians in advertisements of such sorts?
As if they're just using them as objects to sell their products..
It's all pointless and very scripted.
We should have nothing to do with their personal lives, rather try to avoid being attached to them emotionally..
As it's vague. They'll do what they do.
They'll be what the they want to be.
Us praying, feeling remorse has nothing to do with them and their lifestyles..
Still. No offense to people who still want to pray.
Pray as much as u want.
But just don't advertise your sympathy towards them like this.
This thread is not about showing compassion or empathy towards them. It's about exposing them.
And directing people away from them for the devil to loose it's hold on innocent people.
Guys simply. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
It's either this, or that. That's it..

 

[ShiningCarat14]

I agree so much you guys are so knowledgeable now I regret some things I type here that's why I like considering other peoples viewpoints first sjsjsjsjajan

It’s ok you don’t have to feel regretful for typing what you think we are all here to learn debate and solely increase our knowledge in the illuminati world
Just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t mean you are any less right than they are and you don’t have to change what you believe either
Welcome btw

 

[Frozenrose]

Sorry to burst your bubble but a 4 year old CAN NOT understand really what is right or wrong because in this stage of the morals they only follow the rules and do what's right because of their parents.
Most people truly understand what sin is when they are at least 12-14 years old.

And who are you to judge them? This is just a THEORY thread, we CAN'T KNOW FOR SURE what is going on in their lives.
What if they are being abused? Mind controlled? Threatened? Would you still talk about them like that?
It's nice and all that you want to be faithful to our Creator but you are still unnecessarily judging the boys and having prejudice WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY GO THROUGH.

Glad you wrote the last sentence in big letters because you just applied that on me as well with your first paragraph.
Yes, I did know perfectly what was I doing back then but you'll never believe me because this is the narrative you want to support. I see that you want to keep protecting your boys but i won't stop commenting just because all you want to do is victimise them and how its not their fault.
I shared what I have to with my testimony. Take it as you want but don't tell me I couldn't understand right from wrong back when yes, I could! Just because you want to hide behind the "morals" things it's not my problem. You do the same with bt3 as well. You can easily see my point but you want to keep what you see as the right.
End of this discussion with you here so as not to spam.