BTS discussion thread

[truthseeker019821837]

Okay.. This is hella scary...
These words are so difficult
Ouroborus
Astaroth
Astrum argenteum
I have to look in their details to get a little idea what these actually are..

I am astonished to see.. How smart these people are to use numbers and express the things the through numbers..
This must take a lot of practice maybe?
I can't work on two tabs at one time . Let alone multitasking ..

But writing backwards and also with numbers .. Pheww.. Must be hard or must the person be having a sharp brain...

Thank God we have you @the world is a stage and @Bae Yeon Hee and all others which help us to understand a bit about these thing of which i never knew before ...

They seem really smart and as a member’s said that people who belong to these societies seems to be normal ppl irl doctors, maybe even engineering since this all deals heavily with numbers etc. Just reminds me of how the leader wanted to be an engineer or a poet before going into music. And yeah, I agree I wouldn’t know where to start if it wasn’t for the people who started this discussion out in the open- many thanks to all who contributed.

 

[Hopeful]

LUCIFER is the biblical name for Satan/Devil. In Freemasonry, at the top levels, it is revealed to members they are worshipping Lucifer. LUCIFER is the fallen angel of light or the 'light bearer' from whom the Illuminati took their name ''the illuminated ones''. Satanism/ Occultism /Luciferianism are all ultimately the same thing. They share the same deity and it's all part of the same 'religion'. Different names are an attempt to baffle and confuse. Their aims and fundamental beliefs are shared.

Rightttt.. Hmm.. I kind of thought this too...

 

[truthseeker019821837]

I posted this pic in the old thread but I will share it again:

Spoiler: RM with another fly in his eye and a curious hat

This is the source: http://seoulbeats.com/2014/09/dont-need-hugo-already-boss-south-korean-nazi-chic/

and the article about it:

"A few days ago, CéCi magazine announced that they would release a special photo spread of BT-S in honor of the publication’s 20th anniversary. The preview pictures looked great, but the costs for the magazine were unreasonable, and adding onto that the costs for shipping … suffice to say I was thankful when the first pictures of the shoot started appearing on the internet. Well, I was at first.

Then I decided to open up the pictures to their full size. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I enlarged R-M‘s solo shot and was suddenly confronted with a hat that clearly bears the insignia of the SS (the swastika, eagle, and apparently even the skull below them). SS stands for Schutzstaffel(Protection Squadron), a paramilitary organization which played an essential part in bringing Adolf Hitler to power in 1933. Additionally, the SS was responsible for running the concentration camps all over Europe"

I don't know if this is a brand of clothing or what, but why give him this hat for a picture? and R-M is a smart dude, he really doesn't know what that symbol represents?

That symbol looks like the nazi swastika yikes which the nazis took the symbol from another sacred place and tainted it. I posted in the past about the swastika.
And that one eye fly must be an agent of the illuminaughy trying to corrupt the precious leader ??** ^^

 

[Hopeful]

I posted this pic in the old thread but I will share it again:

Spoiler: RM with another fly in his eye and a curious hat

This is the source: http://seoulbeats.com/2014/09/dont-need-hugo-already-boss-south-korean-nazi-chic/

and the article about it:

"A few days ago, CéCi magazine announced that they would release a special photo spread of BT-S in honor of the publication’s 20th anniversary. The preview pictures looked great, but the costs for the magazine were unreasonable, and adding onto that the costs for shipping … suffice to say I was thankful when the first pictures of the shoot started appearing on the internet. Well, I was at first.

Then I decided to open up the pictures to their full size. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I enlarged R-M‘s solo shot and was suddenly confronted with a hat that clearly bears the insignia of the SS (the swastika, eagle, and apparently even the skull below them). SS stands for Schutzstaffel(Protection Squadron), a paramilitary organization which played an essential part in bringing Adolf Hitler to power in 1933. Additionally, the SS was responsible for running the concentration camps all over Europe"

I don't know if this is a brand of clothing or what, but why give him this hat for a picture? and R-M is a smart dude, he really doesn't know what that symbol represents?

Oh he most probably did know.. He knows all of the symbols .. Even knows to solve the riddles backwards...

They had a photoshoot at the h0l0cast mem0rial..
Whyyy in the world would a singing band have a photoshoot there?
They find it fun?


What sorta pose is that j1n? You can slide your finger in your mouth.. No one's watching... :/

 

[truthseeker019821837]

High up in government, the financial elite - they would certainly be affiliated to these secret societies. One doesn't get to run a Country without being deeply entwined in the ways the shadowy elite operate. It's a murky rabbits hole and once one goes down....it seems shocking and beyond belief ...initially at least. Anyhow; I'm not here to force anyone to do or investigate anything unless they wish too. So I'll shut up now. Kind regards to all.

Thank you for your insight please do share again! And I think this goes for all the music and entertainment biz too. People like herdlike mentality so they need these groups. Elite love control, hierarchy, structure, power, ritual, control and manipulation seems like a part of the basic animalistic reptilian brain.

 

[Hopeful]

http://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/

This person spoke out about that photoshoot...

 

[truthseeker019821837]

Since i am not familiar with kpop other than BTS, is the feminine look for the guys also applies to the other kpop boy bands? I know i saw a pic of psy wearing heels and was it fishnet pantyhose? I was dismayed bcuz it was disturbing to see that. *my eyeeeees!!!*

There are a lot of bands who go do even cross dressing for their concerts/performances. Maybe you can see YouTube look for got7 they are another group I know that are relatively came out in the same time as bts I think. I liked their songs and even one when I didn’t think any of the symbolism they were doing the six sign. Sigh. They have millions of views and a group under one of the big 3.
This they do 6 sign. And other symbolism. Cover one eye subtly Sigh. Catchy song too.

Here cross dress and sing/dance:

And since this is a bts thread I won’t leave them out:

 

[Chic]

I'm sorry. I'm still trying to grasp why they would want to dress in cloaks and masks that resemble the one Tom Cruise wore in Eyes Wide Shut...a movie about sexual rituals of underground secret societies. I'm so confounded by this!

NJ could say he is an atheist as opposed to admitting to being a luciferian or satanist. Maybe that's to protect himself from being viewed in a bad light. OR, not saying this is the reason, but he/the group does have young followers. It goes without saying how influential they are to fans. "If he's an atheist, I can be one too!"

Just a thought.

I wish I could find it again but a long time ago after that article was published where he claimed to be an atheist, he got into some trouble--he received backlash either over something he did or said. My memory is foggy when it comes to them, sorry. But I vividly remember he tweeted a biblical scripture after it happened. I remember this because I commented about it on a message board I used to be active on and we were all clowning him for it. This was back in 2015.

 

[Hopeful]

I'm sorry. I'm still trying to grasp why they would want to dress in cloaks and masks that resemble the one Tom Cruise wore in Eyes Wide Shut...a movie about sexual rituals of underground secret societies. I'm so confounded by this!

NJ could say he is an atheist as opposed to admitting to being a luciferian or satanist. Maybe that's to protect himself from being viewed in a bad light. OR, not saying this is the reason, but he/the group does have young followers. It goes without saying how influential they are to fans. "If he's an atheist, I can be one too!"

Just a thought.

Just one signal of that group to ruin someone's life... And the 15 million followers will find out that person and make his her life hell... Or eveb probably kidnap and kill the person ..

They didn't even say anything about cult yet but people were ready to be a part of whatever they were trying to portray ...

Inspiration from that movie wasn't a good move .. But sadly no one noticed ... Neither held a finger a them..


Rather they're praised all around the world.. In every house on news channels

 

[Maggieca]

Oh he most probably did know.. He knows all of the symbols .. Even knows to solve the riddles backwards...

They had a photoshoot at the h0l0cast mem0rial..
Whyyy in the world would a singing band have a photoshoot there?
They find it fun?

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What sorta pose is that j1n? You can slide your finger in your mouth.. No one's watching... :/

yeah I remember this, funny how "woke" company Bigshit never apologized for it. they didn't include the pictures in their photobook and acted like it never happened.

looking cool right?

Here is an article about it: http://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/

Interesting parts:

"About a week ago, BT-S released teasers for their photobook and set the internet on fire, and not in a good way. It took little time for fans to realize the pictures had been taken at the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe, colloquially known as the Holocaust Memorial. Once those fans took to the internet to inform Big Hit of where exactly those photos were taken, they were removed.

No harm, no foul, right? Wrong. So very wrong. The Korean entertainment industry has done some awful things over the past year but this is one of the most offensive things I have ever heard of, and Big Hit should not be let off the hook. They haven’t even made an apology. They just tried to pretend it never happened.

Make no mistake, the Holocaust Memorial is a cemetery, and those blocks that BT-S look so good posing against are graves. The Holocaust claimed over 11 million lives — Jews, homosexuals, Romani, the disabled, political dissidents. One million more than the population of Seoul. Over 20% of the population of Korea. It’s one of the worst genocides in human history.

BT-S is posing in front of the blocks for the sole reason that someone thought they looked cool. They took a place of reflection and respect and held a photo shoot, turning the only graves that eleven million people will ever get into a set dressing. And for anyone who thinks I’m over reacting, imagine if idol group did a photo shoot in a cemetery: slouching against tombstones, sprawled out over grave sites. That is what they did. That level of disrespect was paid to genocide victims, and we’re supposed to accept it because the photos were taken down? No. You wouldn’t use a cemetery to sell handbags and you shouldn’t use a memorial to sell idols"

 

[Chic]

yeah I remember this, funny how "woke" company Bigshit never apologized for it. they didn't include the pictures in their photobook and acted like it never happened.

looking cool right?

Here is an article about it: http://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/

Interesting parts:

"About a week ago, BT-S released teasers for their photobook and set the internet on fire, and not in a good way. It took little time for fans to realize the pictures had been taken at the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe, colloquially known as the Holocaust Memorial. Once those fans took to the internet to inform Big Hit of where exactly those photos were taken, they were removed.

No harm, no foul, right? Wrong. So very wrong. The Korean entertainment industry has done some awful things over the past year but this is one of the most offensive things I have ever heard of, and Big Hit should not be let off the hook. They haven’t even made an apology. They just tried to pretend it never happened.

Make no mistake, the Holocaust Memorial is a cemetery, and those blocks that BT-S look so good posing against are graves. The Holocaust claimed over 11 million lives — Jews, homosexuals, Romani, the disabled, political dissidents. One million more than the population of Seoul. Over 20% of the population of Korea. It’s one of the worst genocides in human history.

BT-S is posing in front of the blocks for the sole reason that someone thought they looked cool. They took a place of reflection and respect and held a photo shoot, turning the only graves that eleven million people will ever get into a set dressing. And for anyone who thinks I’m over reacting, imagine if idol group did a photo shoot in a cemetery: slouching against tombstones, sprawled out over grave sites. That is what they did. That level of disrespect was paid to genocide victims, and we’re supposed to accept it because the photos were taken down? No. You wouldn’t use a cemetery to sell handbags and you shouldn’t use a memorial to sell idols?

This was swept under the rug so swiftly! This was one of their first controversies.

 

[Chic]

This photo caused a brief uproar too in the same manner.

 

[Maggieca]

This was swept under the rug so swiftly! This was one of their first controversies.

a lot of new armys have no idea about their past controversies, I always laugh when they say they stan the most "woke" group in kpop
And they totally forgot about their misogynist lyrics and videos, in one MV they literally shove a girl against the wall but that was just a "manly" concept according to bigshit

Romantic?:

And about the "eyes wide shut" concept is weird how armys don't make the conection because the movie is basically about a secret cult and secret sex parties. Strange concept for a kpop group to have right? sadly their fans don't care

 

[Chic]

a lot of new armys have no idea about their past controversies, I always laugh when they say they stan the most "woke" group in kpop
And they totally forgot about their misogynist lyrics and videos, in one MV they literally shove a girl against the wall but that was just a "manly" concept according to bigshit

Romantic?:

And about the "eyes wide shut" concept is weird how armys don't make the conection because the movie is basically about a secret cult and secret sex parties. Strange concept for a kpop group to have right? sadly their fans don't care

I've only watched this twice and that was when I was learning who was who when I first got into them, lol. I preferred watching the LA version in all its corny glory. Better than watching them shove a girl around like that.

 

[truthseeker019821837]

I'm sorry. I'm still trying to grasp why they would want to dress in cloaks and masks that resemble the one Tom Cruise wore in Eyes Wide Shut...a movie about sexual rituals of underground secret societies. I'm so confounded by this!

NJ could say he is an atheist as opposed to admitting to being a luciferian or satanist. Maybe that's to protect himself from being viewed in a bad light. OR, not saying this is the reason, but he/the group does have young followers. It goes without saying how influential they are to fans. "If he's an atheist, I can be one too!"

Just a thought.

I wish I could find it again but a long time ago after that article was published where he claimed to be an atheist, he got into some trouble--he received backlash either over something he did or said. My memory is foggy when it comes to them, sorry. But I vividly remember he tweeted a biblical scripture after it happened. I remember this because I commented about it on a message board I used to be active on and we were all clowning him for it. This was back in 2015.

I very much agree with them being influential if they have influence in the songs, clothes they wear etc. Why not for belief systems too? And there is no doubt people will follow them blindly or not (this is no shading but an educated guess),

Them wearing masks and cloaks and the eyes wide shut seems to be glossed over by the wild trolls who visit the thread and go attacking. But I understand wild trolls have difficulties grasping complex and surreal concepts and theories.

And about the leader saying he is an atheist I think I may find it here and I agree it is a possibility he is saying it to be politically correct and must know gp are adverse to the occult.

This is his past song. I haven’t listened to much of his own songs but this comes up when I search about him being atheist:

And a comment from a person about the song lyrics:
"I don't have a religion because I am my own god/
Whatever ordeals come, I'll take them with my own two hands/
And I say it to myself, Amen"

Daaaang never knew the lyrics till now. The Nietzsche is strong in this one. ("Foolish humanity, you too can become gods")

I read in an interview that Rapmon had read Nietzsche before and this song really really shows it - crazy”
———
His past songs lyrics must have a lot of things to say about what he believes but I don’t have the time right now to listen to it maybe someone can care to analyze ...

 

[Chic]

I agree it is a possibility he is saying it to be politically correct and must know gp are adverse to the occult.

Exactly! This is what I meant, yes.

 

[lilo222]

Hello there,
With respect; I must disagree. An atheist has no belief in any entity. Satanists are not 'more like atheists'; they see Satan as their deity; the clue is in the name: Satanist.
Best wishes to you and to all folk.

Okay you are confused. A typical satanist like your average person does not believe in Satan or God. Their ideas are based off of Satan but they themselves do not believe in neither. My friend used to identify as a satanist but she wasn’t out there sacrificing people to Lucifer. They believe in themselves essentially much like an atheist which is I made that comparison. Luciferians are the one who worship the devil aka Lucifer. Look it up. I’m not here to confuse anybody I’m just offering information. Also when it comes to the 1% I guess it doesn’t really matter to differentiate between Satanism/Luciferianism. It’s just if you come across an average person and they say they’re a satanist that doesn’t mean they worship Satan but they believe in themselves much like NJ pointed out in his lyrics(obviously NJ is more than likely Luciferian). However if an average person tells you their religious belief is Luciferianism —run. It’s important to know these differences.

 

[truthseeker019821837]

Also; I'm sure you are plenty smart enough to know this - but that person you mentioned; the one who is 'atheist' but has given you reason to question that narrative; be mindful around folk like that (again I know you are an intelligent person and I'm not trying to sound like a patronising twat...if I do then I apologise profusely)...but I would say tread carefully around that person; don't give them much on you and try and get them on the backfoot. If you felt like it you could think about calling them out. Ask them why they have such a penchant for occult symbology since they are as elf professed aethist; aethists hold no belief in anything beyond this world so tell them you are interested in why then they worship the occult. Point out that an atheist worships zero, zilch, Nada. Tell them you see the contradictions acutely. Say you'd like to hear their thoughts........you could definitely pull that off, whether you want toor not is the question I guess......wish you well. If I can provide any info on subjects raised feel free anybody to emaile : tracyarnold317@gmail.com. I'm a boring clinical psychologist but I've got some decent videos on topics discussed. The way I see it; we're all here and the best thing is trying to make myself useful in the areas I am not totally ignorant in and learning from the wisdom of the people here. It's been my first time here and people have been thoroughly kind, generous and have included me which was a very nice way to be welcomed; thanks to all for your time xxxii

Thanks for sharing your wisdom and time as well.
Glad to see more open minded and insightful people around in the web. And we will definitely continue to observe and question this narrative that is contradictory. Seems like there is a lot hidden beyond what mass media portray and what the general public believe to be true.

Here is one of his songs if you would like to listen and may I mention the picture in this video they use of him doing the one eye and it is not difficult to find him doing the one eye of Horus he does it frequently as I and others have observed. And also the black and white (duality) painting over his face(another masonic symbolism):

Another one of his song and this one you can see the black / white duality clearly in the picture and one eye:

 

[Hopeful]

See; proves that your gut instinct was right all along though, doesn't it! You suspected as much through instinct alone so that's something to be proud of; instinct is often far more overt when we trust it and listen. You're obviously someone who's in tune with their feelings and it's something you either have or don't have; it's a deeper insight; only estimated 22percent of the population have the more cogent insight you have (of that 22percent of the population, only 3percent are male).

Wow.. I read some good things about myself.. .. Today will be a good day

 

[lilo222]

Also have you guys looked at the analysis of Eyes Wide Shut? It explains a lot. The movie is based off an actual elite party hosted by elite families including the Rothschild and the Queen and plenty of celebrities. To mention, Stanley Kubrick died after making Eyes Wide Shut. Go figure.
Part 1: https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hidden-and-not-so-hidden-messages-in-stanley-kubriks-eyes-wide-shut-pt-i/
Part 2:https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hidden-and-not-so-hidden-messages-in-stanley-kubricks-eyes-wide-shut-pt-ii/
Part 3:https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hidden-and-not-so-hidden-messages-in-stanley-kubricks-eyes-wide-shut-pt-iii/