BTS discussion thread

[blissfate]

Yoongi was lying since lapis doesn't correlate with march
But the traditional month is December for the birthstone
Could possiblyyyyyyy correlate with september, but its not traditional

 

[ShiningCarat14]

Two high school students committed suicide near my home this month.
One was a popular girl, Christian and went to share the gospel with people and somehow Satan got ahold of her mind and made her believe horrible things about herself and what she was doing did not matter. Truly tragic. You’re right it’s glorified and we don’t even care to talk about it only when someone dies!

Ik exactly how that would have felt
My prayers go out to her <3

 

[HappyAlfredo]

Not sure if this is relevant, but I deleted Superstar Bts a week ago and I still see it in my storage in settings. It's also saying I can update it on the AppStore even though I already deleted the app. It's really creeping me out.


I'll try resetting my phone when I get home.

 

[HappyAlfredo]

Maybe it still shows up because you have purchased the app (even free apps count as purchased once they have been downloaded and installed).


And this is important for those who are thinking about getting a Bible:

Usually when I delete apps they aren't in my storage anymore and I can't update them, since they're deleted. They would only show up on the "Not on this iPhone" section of the AppStore. This app still gives me the option to delete, but when I delete again nothing happens.
The app isn't on my home screen anymore but it's behaving like I still have it on my phone.

 

[blissfate]

It basically confirms that BTS's role is to become very popular and to spread the 'New Age Movement' agenda.

In more detail:

The fanbase of BTS (ARMY) is very loyal, almost everywhere and active and ARMY's are spread all around the world, they propagate BTS and their brand. And the other pedal on this propaganda bicycle is the propagation of BTS through media and other celibrities, like John Cena for example.
The goal of that is to give most of the world(above 90%) an idea of who BTS is and that they have heard their name at least once.

One of the core ideas of the NAM is that if one loves oneself they can 'unlock' themselves and not only get to love others but to also be able to develop 'abilities', to 'unlock' the universe, to become 'gods'.

The second stage of propagation through BTS is what we currently see; the hints in the MV's and appearances and 'small breadcrumbs' scattered over all their media.
These 'breadcrumbs' are little things, even so little as a choice of words or even a body movement, these 'breadcrumbs' are either scripted and acted or controlled behaviour.

--Example--
If a wicked person would be to try to convince people of a lie, in this example that the boyfriend is abusive, the person cannot outright tell the lie.
The lie would need to be build up, to have a base. The person knows how victims of abuse act around their abuser and in general how when they are in an abusive relationship and therefore deliberately acts in this way.

The person is dropping hints in behaviour like a choice of words or the way a word is pronounced, for example:
If a friend of the person asks: "How was your night with Bob, did you two do something?"
The person would drop the 'breadcrumb' by saying in a slightly hurt and afraid way: "Yes, we did something, I didn't really want it but thats who he is." And while saying it the person would also act with their body langauge accordingly, like averting their eyes and maybe also to a classic 'neck scratch'. Basically act in the ways that are thought in 'How to tell if someone is lying' videos.

Over time the person does this more and more to the point where she can entrust her 'secret' (lie) to a person that she believes would aid here in popagating the lie more or help her reach her goal that she is trying to achieve with the lie, in this example its getting 'victim fame' so people interact with her more caring and basically giving her 'victim bonuses'.

Over time the person set up a net of implications and 'breadcrumbs' so almost everyone in her enviroment thinks that 'there is something'.
The person might even have gone as far as to inflict herself with injuries.
And at one point when she feels like enough people are supecting something she goes public with a 'final act', in this example its her boyfriend 'getting busted'; She would for example 'roleplay' with her boyfriend a scenario and during that scenario, which in this case involves abuse, one of her conditioned and 'entrusted' friends would come in to find the situation and 'bust' the boyfriend and depending on how 'well' the person planned and acted out her plan the more easier it will be for her to get away with it. The boyfriend of course would be like: "I never did anything!" but due to the long time of how the wicked person has conditioned her enviroment to believe her and not her friend his objections and probable anger will likely just play into her hands.

(I choose this example because in this day and age it is very plausible, because in many countries people are already conditioned to think that the victim is always right until there is irrefutable proof that the accused culprit didn' do it)
--/example/--


The purpose is to draw in the first waves of people, the people that see these 'breadcrumbs' and connect them to make the picture the 'breadcrumbs' are meant to make, people that do that are usally more intelligent/observant than the usual consumer. These people are meant to, in this phase, gather knowledge and to be drawn either into the NAM or a subgroup of it or to become an 'independent' practioner of the occult.
These people are supposed to be the 'you know something about this, dont you?' type of persons to which people will go to know more once they suspect something is of.

The idea is to play with a persons arrogance, with their need to feel 'special', these persons are supposed to think that they are the ones that can see through 'it'. In society these days people want to be 'smarter' than others and want to feel that they are superior to others by knowing what they think is the truth.

Right now we are close to the phase in which BTS is supposed to become one of the most popular groups on the planet.

"But how will they spread this agenda, how will they make people think the occult and new age stuff is good?"

They will do it in the way they got fans to follow them in the first place; through emotions and relatability.
They will play the victims and talk about all the 'good' these things have done for them, how it helped them to cope, but they wont just suddenly talk about it at some point, they need an emotional hook, its similar to fishing: You catch more fish witch a big net as you would with a big and sudden fishing hook, and this is where the 'tragic' story comes into play.
They will tell people about 'their fight' and how much they have suffered, about how tragic the loss of their friend was and will blame it on a group of scapegoats, they will basically try to look like the 'good guys' of the story, with a little hint of 'anti-hero'.

Basically what they are doing is setting up the net for the literal devil to catch as many people as he can.
And some of them do it more 'concious' than others and it is likely that their bodies are more controlled by demons as instead by themselves.



More about the new age's satanism:

Sooooo I'm not the only one who doesn't feel as emotionally attached to them as everyone else?
Because i'll look at the comment section of something that bts spoke about like getting "bullied" or whatever and most of the time it wasn't even bullying and people are like trash talking the person who did it..
Idk I feel empathy for them but It seems like I've gotten over half of their nonsense and actually realize more than most of the ARMY that it's an act and it's not as deep as most people are making it out to be..
idk maybe its just me opening my eyes to the bs

But a lot of what bts does seems to revolve around satanism, whether it'd be the themes or the fact that house of cards and dope have lyrics that are reversed to that.

 

[blissfate]

Usually when I delete apps they aren't in my storage anymore and I can't update them, since they're deleted. They would only show up on the "Not on this iPhone" section of the AppStore. This app still gives me the option to delete, but when I delete again nothing happens.
The app isn't on my home screen anymore but it's behaving like I still have it on my phone.

try restarting your phone or just ignore it

 

[Chic]

Yeah most of them seem to be clueless about this, especially the maknae line, or if they do know about it they're probably forced to continue doing it since they did sign a contract that basically means that the company OWNS THEM
But I feel like RM would pretend to care about us more than yoongi, and ive seen yoongi do a bunch of questionable things as well and nobody really seems to care to point it out because they're so brainwashed

What are some questionable things Yoongi has done? I'm curious, if you dont mind me asking.

 

[blissfate]

What are some questionable things Yoongi has done? I'm curious, if you dont mind me asking.

A bunch was pointed out at the beginning of this topic.. how he always does the "rock and roll" evil sign when posing for pictures and how he was rude to a staff member it seemed

 

[Chic]

A bunch was pointed out at the beginning of this topic.. how he always does the "rock and roll" evil sign when posing for pictures and how he was rude to a staff member it seemed

I'm reading backwards. I just came back to this forum.

I'm still a BTS fan. Never considered myself as Army and I dont consume all of their material like most fans. It's sad to see them go down this path. But like it was said: you dont become this popular without paying some kind of price.

Love this thread btw.

 

[Chic]

Those dolls are really depressing and creepy. I couldn't imagine being surrounded in that atmosphere but he seems to like it that way. Does anyone know what they're called or the brand?

The ones that look like bears are called Bearbricks (stylized as Be@rbricks...toys from Japan). The others with x's for eyes are by Kaws

 

[pinkblob]

Well, there were rumors about him having a private instagram account, and thre was a girl that used to say she was his girlfriend and posted photo and stuff, and lets say that his private immage seemed very different from his public persona....but don't know much since i've never seen any of those stuff only people talking about it.
Consider that korean fandom tend to protect their idols so even if all those things were true they would never spread it around.

About the Coca Cola stuff apparently they are just models for the Fifa worldcup adds in KOREA(not worldwide), so definately it's not a big thing especially if compared to exibit at Olympic closing cerimony.

i never heard of this. is it a recent rumor?

 

[Openyoureyes]

Hey everyone
I spent a good time reading this thread starting from page 1 , it was very productive and I'm really glad I found a place where I can share what I think with people with the same thoughts .
I read what you all said about Tae's personality change but did anyone ever think that it might be also related to his friendship with B○g&m ? I used to find their friendship cute but lately I've been getting in depth reading about religious cults and the one B is in is really disturbing , and some rumours say that he tried to recruit many idols and a lot now view him in a bad way ...
and just to understand some terrible things that cults do , the sewol ferry was said to be a cult sacrifice and the head of church(cult ) who's also the head of the company that was involved is still wanted (he literally vanished with his family ) Not that B's cult is that established to do a sacrifice like that but they have their fair share of creepy things

 

[Openyoureyes]

Well, there were rumors about him having a private instagram account, and thre was a girl that used to say she was his girlfriend and posted photo and stuff, and lets say that his private immage seemed very different from his public persona....but don't know much since i've never seen any of those stuff only people talking about it.
Consider that korean fandom tend to protect their idols so even if all those things were true they would never spread it around.
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I heard about that , it was around the time of wings tour ,I saw some screencaps and they seem legit , he was never one of my favs but even if he was I wouldn't be too shocked honestly , also they were spread bcuz according to what was said the girl was trying to expose him bcuz he wanted to break up idk something like that but it's all over now

 

[tyrab]

Hey everyone
I spent a good time reading this thread starting from page 1 , it was very productive and I'm really glad I found a place where I can share what I think with people with the same thoughts .
I read what you all said about Tae's personality change but did anyone ever think that it might be also related to his friendship with B○g&m ? I used to find their friendship cute but lately I've been getting in depth reading about religious cults and the one B is in is really disturbing , and some rumours say that he tried to recruit many idols and a lot now view him in a bad way ...
and just to understand some terrible things that cults do , the sewol ferry was said to be a cult sacrifice and the head of church(cult ) who's also the head of the company that was involved is still wanted (he literally vanished with his family ) Not that B's cult is that established to do a sacrifice like that but they have their fair share of creepy things

I found this related to the church he is apart of and Iknow he is v's best friend I don't know how this would affect him.

 

[Openyoureyes]

I found this related to the church he is apart of and Iknow he is v's best friend I don't know how this would affect him.

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this cult or any cult tries to get to you when you are most fragile (mentally and psychologically ) which I think V is , he's been through a lot .. what this comment said is true but I will add that this cult they believe in rituals that can allow you to talk to dead ppl , I think about B and everyone say how he and Tae were friends even before debut but all their display of friendship started when the group got a solid fame , the person who told me about his cult and him going after other idols trying to recruit them ( 2 from e*o , 1 from wanna , 1 from cakevelvet , one solo .. and many others )also told me that B is never there because of the bond and friendship and all the blabla but the fans that may get curious and try to join

 

[Openyoureyes]

Sooooo I'm not the only one who doesn't feel as emotionally attached to them as everyone else?
Because i'll look at the comment section of something that bts spoke about like getting "bullied" or whatever and most of the time it wasn't even bullying and people are like trash talking the person who did it..
Idk I feel empathy for them but It seems like I've gotten over half of their nonsense and actually realize more than most of the ARMY that it's an act and it's not as deep as most people are making it out to be..
idk maybe its just me opening my eyes to the bs

me too , fortunately I'm over the obsession phase but I was such a mess before , I was never attached to a grp the way I was attached to them , my entire day used to revolve around them and I was so thristy for their updates, hungrily consuming every content , but I know some fans that are even waaaay more invested than , it's weird how they managed making us feel this about them , i read a while ago an army tweeting about living in Twitter bcuz of the boys , they really have their way ( satanic one) to get us attached , mentally attached and it's sooo hard to escape a mental attachment, so difficult to try to re shape your thoughts and not think about them the whole time

 

[DarkAndWild]

me too , fortunately I'm over the obsession phase but I was such a mess before , I was never attached to a grp the way I was attached to them , my entire day used to revolve around them and I was so thristy for their updates, hungrily consuming every content , but I know some fans that are even waaaay more invested than , it's weird how they managed making us feel this about them , i read a while ago an army tweeting about living in Twitter bcuz of the boys , they really have their way ( satanic one) to get us attached , mentally attached and it's sooo hard to escape a mental attachment, so difficult to try to re shape your thoughts and not think about them the whole time

So true, but they’re very clever tbh... BTS are always constantly feeding fans with selcas, vlives, bangtan bombs, ect on purpose because they want fans to feel closer to them, like they know them on a personal level, and it works bc it gets to the point where they feel like they’re more than fans. ARMYs are always constantly saying things like “We don’t stan BTS, BTS Stans us” That’s why in most cases it’s hard to leave the fandom because it’s like “breaking with up a close friend”

Very clever marketing strategy lol

 

[Openyoureyes]

So true, but they’re very clever tbh... BTS are always constantly feeding fans with selcas, vlives, bangtan bombs, ect on purpose because they want fans to feel closer to them, like they know them on a personal level, and it works bc it gets to the point where they feel like they’re more than fans. ARMYs are always constantly saying things like “We don’t stan BTS, BTS Stans us” That’s why in most cases it’s hard to leave the fandom because it’s like “breaking with up a close friend”

Very clever marketing strategy lol

EXACTLY , that's why when we try to let go we feel empty? I really felt so empty that i didn't know what to do , like you said it's like breaking up with a close friend , it's hard to adjust and have a healthy life and thinking after , they really take over their fans like they said in pied piper

 

[Openyoureyes]

Exactly, i mean, it wouldn't be so shocking if his public persona wasn't the complete opposite of that.

But it's very difficult to verify certain rumors because korean fandom protects their idols as much as they can ( or leave the fandom without saying a word).

True, it's like having friends or more than that, you constantly get update from them, their battles become your battles, they all work hard everytime they feel a member is getting desrespected.
It's really energy consuming.
Like incubus that are feeded with obsessions.
I found myself often wanting to buy their stuff...i am honest that i thought about buying their new album but i contained myself -lol- but i had the thought , luckily i'm quite stingy and i repeated myself i can't buy something without being certain i like it .

right ,and even if we can't be sure about screrncaps or anything ,one thing we can be sure about is that a public figure in General is never 100% himself , some only show us a side of them , some totally follow a script because there's nothing they can show .

 

[Chic]

Please help. I'm trying to find the video where Siwon said in 5 years a kpop act will rise and cross cultural barriers. Anyone know the video? I know someone does cos I saw it here long ago lol.