BTS discussion thread

[Anonymous]

A newbie here. Finally done reading 284 pages of looong threads. Spent hours n days digesting all the theories. Some were good n some were overrated. Having heartbreak mixed unexplainable amd complex feeling all over again during my time here. I believe the majority of us were here out of love interest or compassion for bts. Although we may yet know the outcome of the path of their lives I wish together we could pray hard for them since it is the best we could to for them as a fan, fellow ages, any similarity at all or simply as a human.

Thank you to all of you for sharing all the valuable informations n experiences. I think we would discuss many things for a length of time though I think that may not mean a good thing.. you know since it means bad things do happen.

Anyway if any of you want to know more bout mk ultra thru movie I recc you guys to watch american ultra. The title speak for itself. Couldn't b obvious more. I watch the movie bfore I found out n learn more bout mk ultra though. So when read I bout theories of our boys could possibly b a victims of mk ultra I had my own imagination already bout how it works. Sure I don't know how does it really works in reality.

We couldn't detect it either since mostly glitch ultra would happen (if it does) when the victims reach 27 yo or older from what I know.

So from my own personal views is they do know up to certain degree what they're doing/happened (though who knows how much) but somehow/somewhat in between mentally conscious and unconscious. Also some may know/involved more than others and directly or indirect made a lot of difference too.

Brainstorming hard to write in english since its not my native language. Please excuse my incorrect grammars n long intro.

 

[Chic]

RM ripping JK's shirt wasn't a bet then according to the conversation about it in the Vlive.
Where ARMYs get their info from? Lol.

 

[Lookah]

RM ripping JK's shirt wasn't a bet then according to the conversation about it in the Vlive.
Where ARMYs get their info from? Lol.

What did the army’s say again?

 

[Hopewish]

I just watched their vlive in the minute 2:04 RM says "we are doing a vlive for a reason right?" and then Jimin explains, talking about all the things they won during this comeback. Inmediately after that they start talking about Jin's grandma and say fans don't need to worry too much. Then they change the subject and act like nothing happened. some of them look very happy actually

we don't know what really happened with Jin's grandma, people die everyday and that doesn't mean it was a sacrifice.
But we have been thinking him and Taehyung were bron into it and it's a strange coincidence both lost the same family member (grabndma) also suspicious this happens the very last day of their promotion and he found out right after he filmed their last stage

Only Ta3 who look sad for me. Maybe this situation make him remember with his grandma?

 

[Maggieca]

ok guys I notice something creepy in that vlive
Right after they talk about Jin's grandma, they clap and move to the next topic but Taehyung makes this hand gesture:

you can see it in the video, it happens at 3:06 and it's very fast

 

[Maggieca]

RM ripping JK's shirt wasn't a bet then according to the conversation about it in the Vlive.
Where ARMYs get their info from? Lol.

armys are always doing damage control and trying to hide things from international fans. They did the same thing when the Yoongi's elevator incident happened and also the clarification they gave for that interview when BTS described Taehyung
when they see international fans give a bad reaction they change their story or translations so it's impossible to know if they are telling the truth

 

[Chic]

What did the army’s say again?

Basically, some fans said it was inappropriate for RM to rip JK's shirt during the performance because JK was visibly uncomfortable. Kfans tried to correct the situation by saying JK and RM made a bet backstage about it so he was unbothered since he already knew about it.

 

[Marcelina123]

What if J1n did something wrong or was not obeying and his punishment was the death of his grandmother? and it's kinda of really weird how the other members look like they couldn't care less about it

 

[Hopeful]

I just watched their vlive in the minute 2:04 RM says "we are doing a vlive for a reason right?" and then Jimin explains, talking about all the things they won during this comeback. Inmediately after that they start talking about Jin's grandma and say fans don't need to worry too much. Then they change the subject and act like nothing happened. some of them look very happy actually

we don't know what really happened with Jin's grandma, people die everyday and that doesn't mean it was a sacrifice.
But we have been thinking him and Taehyung were born into it and it's a strange coincidence both lost the same family member (grandma) also suspicious this happens the very last day of their promotion and he found out right after he filmed their last stage

If my best friend's whod been living with me for freaking 6 7 years.. Grandma dies.. I wouldn't smile for 3 to 4 days or maybe a week and would leave with that person to his place... And stay by the side of my friend..
I don't know what their life's rules are..

 

[Hopeful]

Do u know any other grandma scarfices?

V's grandma is supposed by some of us to be a sacrifice

 

[Maggieca]

and it's kinda of really weird how the other members look like they couldn't care less about it

agree, I don't expect them to do a vlive crying about it but it's a sad day for one of their members and out of respect they could avoid being so loud on social media
They are out there posting on fancafe and twitter acting happier than ever about FESTA while Jin is probably getting ready for his grandma's funeral Kinda messed up

 

[Hopeful]

Because a person is CLEARLY NOT fine when somebody of their family dies. They freaking know that it's a sacrifice, hence why they tell us not to worry too much. From their perspective it's absolutely normal and nothing to be ashamed of. They took someone's life. Just think about that for a minute.....And then they tell us not to worry? They are more coldblooded than I thought they are.

Coldblooded... That's the word ...

 

[Hopeful]

agree, I don't expect them to do a vlive crying about it but it's a sad day for one of their members and out of respect they could avoid being so loud on social media
They are out there posting on fancafe and twitter acting happier than ever about FESTA while Jin is probably getting ready for his grandma's funeral Kinda messed up

If they had delayed everything for a day or 2 it wouldn't have much effect in them.. They already got the trophies and fame...
They could have stayed silent for a day.. Just to show their respect

 

[happylostcloud]

ok guys I notice something creepy in that vlive
Right after they talk about Jin's grandma, they clap and move to the next topic but Taehyung makes this hand gesture:

you can see it in the video, it happens at 3:06 and it's very fast

well i didn't see whole vlive, but on some loops from vlive t0ae seemed sad, so maybe it's remindes him his situation with his grandma and he secretly give us info how it's it in real?

 

[Maggieca]

If they had delayed everything for a day or 2 it wouldn't have much effect in them.. They already got the trophies and fame...
They could have stayed silent for a day.. Just to show their respect

right. And just now they decided to release a song bragging about their success
Here are some of the lyrics:

jhope: hip hop? wrong
rap style? wrong
just rapper? wrong
bangtan = wrong
but reality, bang worldwide, bang top of the charts bang bang, wrong got money, woo ap, woo good house, woo someone's dream life, woo
how bout you? i like you! this success is thanks to u its funny right?

Suga: um..i think u guys are wrong
all of us are wrong
who says power is good i say wrong,
no ones on top of us bc we are failing thanks thanks thanks thanks thank you for underestimating us
all this time thanks to you, stadium, dome, billboard bc of alot of things we gained a lot too small company friends i hope u guys get big soon


lol is this really necessary right now? And this part:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1005842427339526145

"humble kings" are not really humble

 

[truthseeker019821837]

I saw a video not so long ago, when I still thought BT$ was pure...
But I still got surprised by the weird answer and looks they gave when they were asked about dating. *-*

At 0:55

Yup, and if you see his body language, you see how R...M... crossed his arms when he answered that question---- it means he is closed off and most likely the answer you are getting from him is not the truth and his voice he changed it to make it sound more comical(?). I mean seriously, its evident he didn't want that question. If he said they were dating, there'd probably be some kind of backlash. I think its a touchy subject for them to talk about dating especially because many fans like them and stan them because they sell the image that they are single boys available who are for the fans. That's how I see it.


http://westsidetoastmasters.com/resources/book_of_body_language/chap4.html

Not all fans just like them for their music, of course some see them as oppas/bf idk but you can't deny there is that mindset.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/796469715912761345

I also had a crush on some movies stars/singers and it can be depressing when you know they got into a relationship and they don't know you exist that kind of feeling and obsessive mindset, I experienced it myself. So I see where they come from but thank goodness I am more aware that is unhealthy behaviour.
What media is selling is unhealthy behaviour and society as a majority allow it and are complacent with it. The entertainment biz/music biz are banking on vanity, obsession, materialism, delusion, etc.. of the fans and I think that sadly comes with the territory of both businesses now. But people should be more skeptical. Limit themselves and balance. Like, be happy that they (for example BT$) got relationships and stuff because the truth is however hard it may be to swallow, the chance of someone like a movie star or someone you see not in your real life you getting together is close to nil.
And focus on the bigger picture of why is society like this. I really like what the movie recommendations in this thread so far and I watched Eyes wide shut, the interview with whistleblower Dutch banker (Dutch banker Ronald Bernard), the Matrix, Open Secret etc. But I want to share again what 2pac said in Killuminati interview-- I'm not repeating what 2pac said verbatim but the gist of it is he said: See the rich people, they have a lot mansions, planes, everything in excess but you also see or ignore to see(?) people who don't have food, water, shelter, homeless--the basic necessities. So what kind of sick society is that. Here you have people obsessing about stars or "idols" (like BT$ or any other group you name it) and spending their money to fuel what? A sick industry that promotes vanity, starving their trainees, no personal and work life balance etc...
IDK its all bad at the roots of this society and if the 1lluminati is indeed true and at play here (which it is proving to be based on the symbols) then this is gonna be a tough one cuz they got the money, the power and when you have money-- you are kinda above the law. Wonder why there aren't much rich people in jail?? All mostly poor people who do things like sell drugs, prostitute, steal to what? To make a living/to survive. People turning to evil things to survive.
Anyway, that went all over the place but the bottomline is people need to wake up and question more things. And research more things!
I ask myself if this is also obsession too like analyzing B*T$ being involved in the illuminati but I think there's something to learn from here and that's why I'm here. And I've learned a lot so far. So its cool, talking about B**T**$ has helped in some way make sense of stuff and learn new things.

 

[Hopeful]

RM ripping JK's shirt wasn't a bet then according to the conversation about it in the Vlive.
Where ARMYs get their info from? Lol.

Armies make it up.. More like Fake it up..

 

[WOKE_ARMY]

He might have a f*ck up mind about murder but may god bless him lmao
Original member of bts spill the tea about everything : bigshit and the system in general

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WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS PLEASE.

Anybody mind to spill details on who is Iron and why he dissed TOP and GD and OMG did what he rapped about Se7en is true??!! I’m a fan of him but he’s no longer in the scene!
Thank you in advance!

 

[Hopeful]

armys are always doing damage control and trying to hide things from international fans. They did the same thing when the Yoongi's elevator incident happened and also the clarification they gave for that interview when BTS described Taehyung
when they see international fans give a bad reaction they change their story or translations so it's impossible to know if they are telling the truth

The news that reaches first is the right news.. Because there's no time for faking it up... The one's coming latet are faked up.. Because they need international armies for the streaming and voting.. And they take advantage of their language.. They change the translations saying first one wasn't right...

 

[WOKE_ARMY]

This is what they want.. Keeping the sheeple busy with only thinking about them and the boys ...
Maybe the threats are self created by the company themselves... To check the mentality of their fandom ... Just a thought .. Could be real.. But just a thought

Hmm, this reminds me of their FL press conference when one of the journalists asked Jim!n this and he answered it with a smile on his face, as if his life’s not important. Maybe I thought wrong, but, what you said kinda makes sense.