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Does the industry push it? Or do we get it because we're interested in it?

I'm more inclined to believe the later. These days, conspiracy theorists seem to care more about esoteric symbolism that the actual mechanizations of a corrupt system, so you see this sort of thing because it gets attention. A view is a view. Whether you're listening to the song in another window, watching the video because you think it's cool/artistic/weird, or showing it on a conspiracy theory forum because
"holy shit look at this MK Ultra puppet".
 





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I didn't see anything satanic in those videos... just weird imagery to creep people out but it's not that serious. I think Billie Eilish just likes to be weird and provoke a reaction with her videos. A lot of artists like to do that. I mean, she's an edgy 16 year old.
 





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Does the industry push it? Or do we get it because we're interested in it?

I'm more inclined to believe the later. These days, conspiracy theorists seem to care more about esoteric symbolism that the actual mechanizations of a corrupt system, so you see this sort of thing because it gets attention. A view is a view. Whether you're listening to the song in another window, watching the video because you think it's cool/artistic/weird, or showing it on a conspiracy theory forum because
"holy shit look at this MK Ultra puppet".
Its pushed until enough people are conned into liking it (often times youth) .... then its legitimized and becomes part of the cultural landscape. After time, these compromised choices for art and entertainment become just like their business and political counterparts.... leading people far stray.
 





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I didn't see anything satanic in those videos... just weird imagery to creep people out but it's not that serious. I think Billie Eilish just likes to be weird and provoke a reaction with her videos. A lot of artists like to do that. I mean, she's an edgy 16 year old.
You don't see fluid coming out of her eyes as Satanic?, you don't see her putting Spiders in her mouth while looking like she is dead as Satanic?

She isn't edgy at all, she is forced to do this shit, it's in her contract.
 





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You don't see fluid coming out of her eyes as Satanic?, you don't see her putting Spiders in her mouth while looking like she is dead as Satanic?
No... it's weird but it doesn't really have anything to do with satan.
She isn't edgy at all, she is forced to do this shit, it's in her contract.
Well, she seems pretty edgy with her music. Do you have any proof for what you're saying?
 





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No... it's weird but it doesn't really have anything to do with satan.

Well, she seems pretty edgy with her music. Do you have any proof for what you're saying?
I dont have any knowledge of this artist other than what I have seen here and certainly not their contractual obligations..... but this imagery is clearly demonic/satanic/MK Ultra-esque in its visual representation to the extreme.
 





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What I said is far more likely than her being influenced by satan. My opinion is obvious by just watching the video, you can see that she is trying to be weird and use weird imagery... I'm not gonna jump to conclusions that she's satanic just because of that. You said she's satanic. You are the one saying that it's definitely in her contract, so you should be able to prove that. I think the burden of proof is on you for this.

I don't think she is being influenced by satan, I don't think she's demonic, I don't think she's possessed or anything like that... I just think she wanted to create a dark and disturbing atmosphere in her video to creep people out. Horror can sometimes be entertaining. Weird videos don't automatically equal satan. It's definitely weird but she seems like a weird person who likes to be interesting with her music.
 





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What I said is far more likely than her being influenced by satan. My opinion is obvious by just watching the video, you can see that she is trying to be weird and use weird imagery... I'm not gonna jump to conclusions that she's satanic just because of that. You said she's satanic. You are the one saying that it's definitely in her contract, so you should be able to prove that. I think the burden of proof is on you for this.

I don't think she is being influenced by satan, I don't think she's demonic, I don't think she's possessed or anything like that... I just think she wanted to create a dark and disturbing atmosphere in her video to creep people out. Horror can sometimes be entertaining. Weird videos don't automatically equal satan. It's definitely weird but she seems like a weird person who likes to be interesting with her music.
If you were more familiar with the actual nuts and bolts of the entertainment industry, perhaps it would be easier for you to see/accept the reality of the situation. The vast majority of major "artists" are like the vast majority of politicians... compromised. The people who do this either to be edgy as you speculated or to actually be in the service of the devil are often independent artists. What we see here isnt an artist expressing their own vision, its a product, just as she is. She is compromised and controlled, just as the media she produces is.......
 





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Its pushed until enough people are conned into liking it (often times youth) .... then its legitimized and becomes part of the cultural landscape. After time, these compromised choices for art and entertainment become just like their business and political counterparts.... leading people far stray.
Here's the thing.

Even if you look at things from an occult perspective, symbols and images only have the power you give them. If they are promoting them, it's less to seduce kids to the dark side. 'cause most of those kids just seem those symbols are something cool, or weird, or something that pisses off their parents. At best, the power they attribute to it is shallow adolescent rebellion. The fear/disgust/hatred that people on forums like this have for such imagery would feed any occult ritual far more.

I take a more cynical approach to this sort of things though. It's a distraction. Nothing more, nothing less. The powers that be know that sites like this will gasp and point at all the evil they are being shown but not really doing shit about it so they keep feeding more weird shit to more or less have a continuous feedback loop of the producing content, someone noticing it, bringing it to attention to their favorite conspiracy forum, causing discussion rather than action... Rinse and repeat.

What people don't realize is these symbols don't really have any real effect on the kids. Lord knows openly more overt satanic imagery didn't do crap to me. Parents have more effect on their children than they believe or their kids admit. Be a good parent and your kid will turn out good.
 





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Here's the thing.

Even if you look at things from an occult perspective, symbols and images only have the power you give them. If they are promoting them, it's less to seduce kids to the dark side. 'cause most of those kids just seem those symbols are something cool, or weird, or something that pisses off their parents. At best, the power they attribute to it is shallow adolescent rebellion. The fear/disgust/hatred that people on forums like this have for such imagery would feed any occult ritual far more.

I take a more cynical approach to this sort of things though. It's a distraction. Nothing more, nothing less. The powers that be know that sites like this will gasp and point at all the evil they are being shown but not really doing shit about it so they keep feeding more weird shit to more or less have a continuous feedback loop of the producing content, someone noticing it, bringing it to attention to their favorite conspiracy forum, causing discussion rather than action... Rinse and repeat.

What people don't realize is these symbols don't really have any real effect on the kids. Lord knows openly more overt satanic imagery didn't do crap to me. Parents have more effect on their children than they believe or their kids admit. Be a good parent and your kid will turn out good.
These symbols and themes do not hold any power over me, but I recognize the havok they play in the world as they influence those who are not aware or who simply dont care/invite these things into their lives.
 





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What I said is far more likely than her being influenced by satan. My opinion is obvious by just watching the video, you can see that she is trying to be weird and use weird imagery... I'm not gonna jump to conclusions that she's satanic just because of that. You said she's satanic. You are the one saying that it's definitely in her contract, so you should be able to prove that. I think the burden of proof is on you for this.

I don't think she is being influenced by satan, I don't think she's demonic, I don't think she's possessed or anything like that... I just think she wanted to create a dark and disturbing atmosphere in her video to creep people out. Horror can sometimes be entertaining. Weird videos don't automatically equal satan. It's definitely weird but she seems like a weird person who likes to be interesting with her music.

How about now?

Look at what the industry has done to her in just ONE YEAR!

 





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Look at what the industry has done to her in just ONE YEAR!
She seems like the same person... I don't know what drastic change you are seeing but she looks like she has the exact same personality to me. She is way more famous now but she hasn't changed... she just has to navigate life in the spotlight (which can be difficult for anyone).
 





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She seems like the same person... I don't know what drastic change you are seeing but she looks like she has the exact same personality to me. She is way more famous now but she hasn't changed... she just has to navigate life in the spotlight (which can be difficult for anyone).
Kind of wonder why you are on this forum if you can't see what so many do.
 





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Kind of wonder why you are on this forum if you can't see what so many do.
Lol please... I never said the industry was a good place but I’m not going to overreact like you do. I don’t think Billie Eilish is satanic or “disgusting” as you put it. The industry is a bad place but that's not because of satanism. I have a more pragmatic view and I’m not going to jump to unfounded conclusions without evidence.

If you think she's satanic, that's fine... you’re free to think what you want but I don’t have to agree with everything that you say.
 





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She seems like the same person... I don't know what drastic change you are seeing but she looks like she has the exact same personality to me. She is way more famous now but she hasn't changed... she just has to navigate life in the spotlight (which can be difficult for anyone).
Shes no longer smiling, has an s&m/canine dog collar around her neck while sporting an esoteric symbol drenched earring, her eyes look vacant and her face looks like its breaking out after a bender.
 





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Shes no longer smiling, has an s&m/canine dog collar around her neck while sporting an esoteric symbol drenched earring, her eyes look vacant and her face looks like its breaking out after a bender.
Thank you, you see it and you get it, she has gone from a fresh faced Girl to a drawn out and drained looking junkie, her skin is more paler and yes she is wearing the S&M/Canine dog collar, she looks distant and vacant and sad, all of her videos since "Ocean Eyes" have featured her with a collar or with an Older man or with dark imagery and wierdness also I had a look at her Instagram a while ago and her knees and her arms were often bruised.
 





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Thank you, you see it and you get it, she has gone from a fresh faced Girl to a drawn out and drained looking junkie, her skin is more paler and yes she is wearing the S&M/Canine dog collar, she looks distant and vacant and sad, all of her videos since "Ocean Eyes" have featured her with a collar or with an Older man or with dark imagery and wierdness also I had a look at her Instagram a while ago and her knees and her arms were often bruised.
Something very sinister about this project and the way its being marketed..... even some posters here are seemingly accepting of it.