16 Year OId bashed online by group of MGTOW. What is this movement?

Antipapirus

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Leaving aside all the troling which i
The following video depicts a young girl rambling about how women will never like nice guys. However, scrolling down the comments pages proves to be filled with terrible messages faced towards the girl and women in general. One of the comments said
"women should be culled"
So what is MGTOW? (men going their own way)
I have tried to do research and found out they are a collective group of men who share the same views on life and women. They speak about alpha and beta males. Red pills and blue pills.
Seems to me like a strange group of men with bad intentions to women. The main MGTOW website does not allow women to join. The misogyny present in this movement is very evident. A group of men who believe women are of no value to society



Any thoughts?


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Leaving aside all the trolling which I realy don't care about, this videos is so real

Women brains are totally different then guys, most women don't even know what they want most of the time

It's not that men's brains are better, they are different, we complete each other, that's the beauty of it

So what this girl is basically saying - don't think that a girl thinks like you and you will get her with your mindset

Get her with her mindset - stop listening to Psyops Bruno Mars and get real
 






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Yeah I'm pretty sure women don't have alien brains. Jung said that women's development revolves around different symbols. That is all. Saying anything else is just misleading, or flat out wrong. I think that this quote about the collective unconscious is a good starting point. If you actually want to understand behavior.

"It must be pointed out that just as the human body shows a common anatomy over and above all racial differences, so, too, the psyche possesses a common substratum transcending all differences in culture and consciousness. I have called this substratum the collective unconscious. This unconscious psyche, common to all mankind, does not consist merely of contents capable of becoming conscious, but of latent dispositions towards certain identical reactions. Thus the fact of the collective unconscious is simply the psychic expression of the identity of brain-structure irrespective of all racial differences. This explains the analogy, sometimes even identity, between various myth-motifs, and symbols, and the possibility of human beings making themselves mutually understood. The various lines of psychic development start from one common stock whose roots reach back into all the strata of the past. This also explains the psychological parallelisms with animals.

Taken purely psychologically, it means that mankind has common instincts of imagination and of action. All conscious imagination and action have been developed with these unconscious archetypal images as their basis, and always remain bound up with them. This condition ensures a primitive health of the psyche, which, however, immediately becomes lack of adaptation as soon as circumstances arise calling for a higher moral effort. Instincts suffice only for the individual embedded in nature, which, on the whole, remains always the same. An individual who is more guided by unconscious than by conscious choice tends therefore towards marked psychic conservatism. This is the reason the primitive does not change in the course of thousands of years, and it is also the reason why he fears everything strange and unusual."
 






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No you're right, but thats where the 1st and 2nd waves made sense. They actually made contributions. 3rd wave is pointless really.
I think as is the case with most human endeavors there were mistakes made before, and not all the people whom are active currently and label themselves as "feminists" are faking the funk. But I agree with you that the majority of what I see out of this "3rd wave" feminism really seems like whiny, argumentative behavior..... so quick to find (instigate) conflict where there isnt any, yet shying away from confronting the actual issues holding females down.
 






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Pay gap doesn't exist, not all in the government are old white men #1, and also give me real specific details. Not rhetoric
I feel you on some of this, but Mecca did lay out legitimate issues such as "sexual harassment, sexual assault, domestic violence"
Those a very real concerns every female is confronted with. And those issues are borne specifically out of male/female power dynamic imbalances.
 






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What makes you think women dont "know what they want most of the time"?
I think it's more indecisiveness. She knows she wants to go out to dinner, but can't decide where. Just a random thought on the matter.
 






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I feel you on some of this, but Mecca did lay out legitimate issues such as "sexual harassment, sexual assault, domestic violence"
Those a very real concerns every female is confronted with. And those issues are borne specifically out of male/female power dynamic imbalances.
But that’s what all feminists only mention give me other specifics
 






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But that’s what all feminists only mention give me other specifics
I dont really wish to recount graphic stories of r*pe, abuse and etc. but I do agree that females face a dangerous world. Im going to do my part by helping to ensure the females in my life know they have my support and I am also making sure they know how to defend themselves or at least get away from bad situation if possible.
 






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I dont really wish to recount graphic stories of r*pe, abuse and etc. but I do agree that females face a dangerous world. Im going to do my part by helping to ensure the females in my life know they have my support and I am also making sure they know how to defend themselves or at least get away from bad situation if possible.
So do men. Its not just a woman's problem.
 






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So do men. Its not just a woman's problem.
I agree, but the rates females face physical violence and sexual discrimination are a lot higher than our frequency of encountering these issues. Males have trials and tribulations which females do not or not as much so I dont feel its coddling or being dishonest to recognize the disproportional amount of danger females face.
 






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I think it's more indecisiveness. She knows she wants to go out to dinner, but can't decide where. Just a random thought on the matter.
Maybe it's just following the patterns of other mistakes females make choosing the "bad men"
 






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I agree, but the rates females face physical violence and sexual discrimination are a lot higher than our frequency of encountering these issues. Males have trials and tribulations which females do not or not as much so I dont feel its coddling or being dishonest to recognize the disproportional amount of danger females face.
This is very true. Even at the physical level we aren't as capable as defending oursleves
 






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The average man who drives for Uber or Lyft make about 7% more than women. I forget who did the study, but I think it's good because it's a situation where even footing should actually exist. And it doesn't. I forget all the factors they listed. But it's the usual gender differences. I'm just going to bring up a simple one to reinforce my point. Men drive faster.

So should we tell women to learn to drive faster, aka emulate men more? If so I have problems with that plan. It kind of seems like most men are just saying tough shit. Women are going to make less because they aren't men. Or manlike. The whole thing is starting to make my head spin. Why? Because women get blamed for not being manlike when they want a raise. And they are shamed when they act manlike!
Is it really due to speed that women earn less as Uber drivers?
 






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