“Is it cuz I is black?” Will “Transracial” become the new Transgender?

polymoog

Superstar
Joined
Jun 17, 2017
Messages
8,229
Ancestry is what’s real. Dividing everyone based on phenotypes is not. That’s something the modern European came up with to cover up ancestry
every race divides themselves up by phenotypes. its the first thing anyone notices.
"high yella", "red"... "high brown"...etc. in some latin countries, lighter skinned people are "rubios" and darker skinned people are "morenos". northern indians and indians in the south look totally different. same as in china, same as with countless countries.

When the modern power structure goes down, all these things go down with it. No more “Africa” or “Asia” or black white Indian etc....
i am not so sure. take any large american city and youll have ethnic enclaves-- chinatowns, latin sections, russian dominated areas, italian sections, chasidic jewish sections, etc. similar ethnicities and races naturally group themselves together. people are comfortable with their own based on looks, traditions, behavior, etc.
if the power structure goes down, that fantastic liberal diversity/mixed race relations junk they bombard people on TV goes right out the window. it could be that neighbors (living in the same socio-economic strata) will unite and form a local community, but if one looks closely, most of those neighbors are already the same race/ethnicity.


anyway, maybe you should elaborate on what ancestry means to you and how it differs from race. race and ancestry, and correct me where i am wrong, are both based on similar genetics and bloodlines.
i am willing to listen to what you have to say.
 
Joined
Mar 17, 2017
Messages
2,342
Yes but in that quote it is God speaking, so it is deduced to mean not a people in relation to God.
That’s just a deduction you’re choosing to make here not one that’s actually there. In the Bible the word for “people” used here is used for both Israelite and non Israelite. So it’s clear what’s meant by “not a people” isn’t referring to them not being a “group”

but the Israelites in the Bible aren’t ever described as great creators, technological savants. They are in constant conflict with God by not fulfilling his wishes. They often are worshipping strange gods, God is punishing them etc. So what you’re arguing isn’t biblical if that’s your foundation.
That’s why I asked you why you think the Most High would be around and not give understanding, but then go away and people stumble across things that no one in history before them did? That makes sense to you that with the Most High around the world would be at its lowest but when He leaves its now at its highest? That’s one.

Secondly, it’s not just about the Bible. There were books taken out the Bible or that the Bible mentions that aren’t in the Bible. They hide history. They changed the times. They changed peoples titles and continue to do so today. They lie about locations. There are even people that say they added 1000 years of false history into the timeline.

To understand the Bible in the context of history is a journey but you’re stuck on just opening the NT and believing that. And that’s because that journey isn’t for everyone.

it does say that. Darwin believed that all humans were evolved species of apes. He thought that blacks and Australians were closer to apes and whites had evolved far past it, although all come from there.

thanks for clarifying that

so a question, if you don’t believe in race then what is the problem with trans racialism? Wouldn’t it be normal for someone to assume any race he wanted then?
It doesn’t say he thinks that they are closer biologically but closer based on their “civilization” or lack thereof. But if you combine everything together it’s clear who he was referring to. Look at the wildmen vs moors tapestry and combine it with his theory. It’s not hard to put two and two together but it may not be for you to put together.

And it’s a problem because within the made up concepts are real people with real histories. And claiming to be those people can lead to the appropriation of real titles and inheritances that are promised to certain people. Certain people were given certain lands and that is based on ANCESTRY not on race. So a person can come to America and claim American but that doesn’t mean the land, which was given to an ANCESTRY (or ANCESTRIES) of people, belongs to them. In the end everything goes back to where it was supposed to be. So just jumping around place to place and changing titles is an approach at encroaching on ancestral ties that do not belong to everyone...
 
Joined
May 18, 2018
Messages
4,046
That’s just a deduction you’re choosing to make here not one that’s actually there. In the Bible the word for “people” used here is used for both Israelite and non Israelite. So it’s clear what’s meant by “not a people” isn’t referring to them not being a “group”
It’s a deduction based on linguistic analysis, textual analysis, and biblical commentary aka consensus. While your deduction of “not a people” being a Darwinian exposition meaning “not human people” has none of those, it’s just something you made up. But I know evidence never means anything to you, you have your narrrative you want to role with, but the evidence is on my side from every angle
That’s why I asked you why you think the Most High would be around and not give understanding, but then go away and people stumble across things that no one in history before them did? That makes sense to you that with the Most High around the world would be at its lowest but when He leaves its now at its highest? That’s one.
But according to you were in a Stone Age now because we don’t built castles so it’s consistent.
It doesn’t say he thinks that they are closer biologically but closer based on their “civilization” or lack thereof. But if you combine everything together it’s clear who he was referring to. Look at the wildmen vs moors tapestry and combine it with his theory. It’s not hard to put two and two together but it may not be for you to put together.
Darwin wasn’t a sociologist, he was a biologist. He absolutely meant it in biological terms. Again, he literally thought blacks were basically animals biologically and whites were supreme. He worked for the English royal society. So you trying to insult white people using Darwin is really ridiculous. Just try a new insult, that one didn’t pan out
 
Joined
Mar 17, 2017
Messages
2,342
every race divides themselves up by phenotypes. its the first thing anyone notices.
"high yella", "red"... "high brown"...etc. in some latin countries, lighter skinned people are "rubios" and darker skinned people are "morenos". northern indians and indians in the south look totally different. same as in china, same as with countless countries.
All that comes from European colonialism where lighter skinned people moved into darker skinned areas and placed themselves on top.So lighter skin was attributed to be the power structure or closer to it. Before all that?That wasn’t the case.

i am not so sure. take any large american city and youll have ethnic enclaves-- chinatowns, latin sections, russian dominated areas, italian sections, chasidic jewish sections, etc. similar ethnicities and races naturally group themselves together. people are comfortable with their own based on looks, traditions, behavior, etc.
if the power structure goes down, that fantastic liberal diversity/mixed race relations junk they bombard people on TV goes right out the window. it could be that neighbors (living in the same socio-economic strata) will unite and form a local community, but if one looks closely, most of those neighbors are already the same race/ethnicity.
They’re grouping themselves together based on culture. In certain countries in Africa it’s all “black people”. But within those “blacks” you’ll have different groups at odds because they speak different languages and follow different cultures that hold different values. They don’t group themselves based on how they look or their hair grows but based on their cultures. They don’t look at themselves all as one because they look the same. But because someone drew a map (*cough**cough the Modern European) that means all these differing groups are lumped into one because someone had the power to enforce their idea of national lines. That’s only relevant while that power is behind them. And they’re currently losing that...


anyway, maybe you should elaborate on what ancestry means to you and how it differs from race. race and ancestry, and correct me where i am wrong, are both based on similar genetics and bloodlines.
anyway, maybe you should elaborate on what ancestry means to you and how it differs from race. race and ancestry, and correct me where i am wrong, are both based on similar genetics and bloodlines.
i am willing to listen to what you have to say.
Ancestry has to do with where people are from and what culture they have/had. Race is about “looks”. You can have two people that look the same with two separate ancestries. Race was created to cover up ancestries with made up titles like black white etc...

Besides “Caucasian” has what in it? ASIAN. Yet somehow you’ve separated yourself from Asian
 
Joined
Mar 17, 2017
Messages
2,342
It’s a deduction based on linguistic analysis, textual analysis, and biblical commentary aka consensus. While your deduction of “not a people” being a Darwinian exposition meaning “not human people” has none of those, it’s just something you made up. But I know evidence never means anything to you, you have your narrrative you want to role with, but the evidence is on my side from every angle

Darwin wasn’t a sociologist, he was a biologist. He absolutely meant it in biological terms. Again, he literally thought blacks were basically animals biologically and whites were supreme. He worked for the English royal society. So you trying to insult white people using Darwin is really ridiculous. Just try a new insult, that one didn’t pan out
It’s not about the text because the text references “people” as being Israelites and non Israelites. And using man your source as to the meaning of scripture shows where your faith lies. And I’ll leave it at that.

In regards to what I’m saying, it’s really not for everybody. Only some are going to get it and move accordingly.

Darwin:
1651460489746.png

Random “wildmen vs moor“ GERMAN tapestry


Go watch the Truman Show (movie). For the play to be over it’s not contingent on you understanding what’s going on. Only the TRU man has to get it..
But according to you were in a Stone Age now because we don’t built castles so it’s consistent.
I do think it’s consistent to think that things would be easier and most understanding would be around when the Creator of Everything is around than when He’s not around. Morality is at an all time low. Truth is hard to find but lies are everywhere. And you think this is the time we’re most advanced than ever?

Look at those pics Poly brought and compare them to what’s going on today
 
Joined
May 18, 2018
Messages
4,046
I do think it’s consistent to think that things would be easier and most understanding would be around when the Creator of Everything is around than when He’s not around. Morality is at an all time low. Truth is hard to find but lies are everywhere. And you think this is the time we’re most advanced than ever?
Well I basically agree then. Only I don't think that proves your theory of history
In regards to what I’m saying, it’s really not for everybody. Only some are going to get it and move accordingly.

Darwin:
1651460489746.png
And again Darwin thought black people were somewhere around hereScreenshot_20220502-093555_Brave.jpg
So if that's a theory you want to believe and reference then be my guest
It’s not about the text because the text references “people” as being Israelites and non Israelites. And using man your source as to the meaning of scripture shows where your faith lies. And I’ll leave it at that
It's about the text, the definition of the term, and the interpretation - a people. I'll reference all those things and you reference that you think it's proving darwinism because it just is. That's the evidence on the table so let's just leave it there
 

Red Sky at Morning

Superstar
Joined
Mar 15, 2017
Messages
13,993
British influencer Oli London who claims to be Korean and insists you 'have the right to choose race' clashes with Black woman who argues it's 'very harmful' to suggest you can 'switch' ethnicity

By Harriet Johnston For Mailonline12:29, 04 May 2022 , updated 13:56, 04 May 2022
  • Oli London , 31, from London, got into clash on Channel 4's YouTube series
  • Non-binary influencer claims they are 'transracial' and has come out as 'Korean'
  • Spent thousands to look like K-pop star, Jimin from Korean boyband BTS
  • Argued with unnamed Black woman who branded them a 'white saviour'
  • Others were split over who was right in the debate, with some calling it 'idiotic'


From the same article…

Transracial: The people who claim to have transitioned races - and compare their struggles to transgender people

Transracial people identify as a different race than the one associated with their biological ancestry.

They may adjust their appearance to make themselves look more like that race, and they may participate in activities associated with that race.

Perhaps most famously, Rachel Dolezal - who posed as a black woman for more than ten years - claimed in 2017 that ethnicity is not biological and compared being 'transracial' to being transgender in an interview with BBC's Newsnight.

Dolezal, from Spokane, Washington, said in the interview: 'Gender is understood – we've progressed, we've evolved to understanding that gender is not binary.'

She added: 'It's not even biological. But what strikes me as so odd is that race isn't biological either.

'And actually race has been to some extent less biological than gender, if you really think about history and our bodies.

'There isn't, like, white blood and black blood.'

Critics online said that Dolezal was using cultural appropriation to become a black woman, and that Dolezal wanted to 'steal things from other cultures to be trendy'.

Richard Dawkins was later stripped of his 'Humanist of the Year' title after comparing transgender people to Dolezal.
 
Last edited:

Jackfists

Rookie
Joined
Jul 16, 2022
Messages
35
Transgenderism, IMO, is one step from Transhumanism. It's roots are in Feminism, which was not to empower women but to make them dislike womanhood, motherhood both of which are powerful when their femininity is properly embraced. A strong woman is a good woman. Feminism does not create strong women, it creates angry and defeated women. Now transgenderism, the confusion of being whatever you like gender wise. Gender was once used to describe words. Sex was (and is) used to describe the genetic, morphological , hormonal and physiological differences between a man and a woman. In order to try and erase this, transgenderism is trojan horsing itself into biology by first making gender a thing that is akin to sex. It is not. Once this is accomplished then the assault on what it is to be a human will come as they begin to introduce the singularity or transhumanism into the fold. Once the first humans take inorganic parts that are controlled by AI, at first for those who are paraplegic, quadraplegic, or have alzheimers and are cured, the acceptance of such technology will increase exponentially and the debate will begin on "what is it to be human?" When people start to fully embrace these short cuts to "super human" ability, are they human, are they machine?

One thing for sure, they are not renewed as they would have become at the second coming.

And that's the trap.

Satan has always wanted to play God. He wants to offer you "immortality" in the form of transhumanism where by you will be mirrored in the cloud (your memories and consciousness that is) and transferred to future grown bodies that are organic on the outside, inorganic on the inside. You will never die!

But is this true?

It isn't.

They can't put your soul in the cloud. Once you die from your organic body all that remains is a DVD of yourself, pictures, memories, video's, etc. It's not a "ghost" of you. You are gone.

That will be the trap, and thankfully it will be optional. The Devil has no choice. He cannot impose his will on you, he can only temp you to destroy yourself. Observe Job.

Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves people :)
 

Red Sky at Morning

Superstar
Joined
Mar 15, 2017
Messages
13,993
Transgenderism, IMO, is one step from Transhumanism. It's roots are in Feminism, which was not to empower women but to make them dislike womanhood, motherhood both of which are powerful when their femininity is properly embraced. A strong woman is a good woman. Feminism does not create strong women, it creates angry and defeated women. Now transgenderism, the confusion of being whatever you like gender wise. Gender was once used to describe words. Sex was (and is) used to describe the genetic, morphological , hormonal and physiological differences between a man and a woman. In order to try and erase this, transgenderism is trojan horsing itself into biology by first making gender a thing that is akin to sex. It is not. Once this is accomplished then the assault on what it is to be a human will come as they begin to introduce the singularity or transhumanism into the fold. Once the first humans take inorganic parts that are controlled by AI, at first for those who are paraplegic, quadraplegic, or have alzheimers and are cured, the acceptance of such technology will increase exponentially and the debate will begin on "what is it to be human?" When people start to fully embrace these short cuts to "super human" ability, are they human, are they machine?

One thing for sure, they are not renewed as they would have become at the second coming.

And that's the trap.

Satan has always wanted to play God. He wants to offer you "immortality" in the form of transhumanism where by you will be mirrored in the cloud (your memories and consciousness that is) and transferred to future grown bodies that are organic on the outside, inorganic on the inside. You will never die!

But is this true?

It isn't.

They can't put your soul in the cloud. Once you die from your organic body all that remains is a DVD of yourself, pictures, memories, video's, etc. It's not a "ghost" of you. You are gone.

That will be the trap, and thankfully it will be optional. The Devil has no choice. He cannot impose his will on you, he can only temp you to destroy yourself. Observe Job.

Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves people :)
Very interesting read
 

Jackfists

Rookie
Joined
Jul 16, 2022
Messages
35
Cheers.

If you want to explore it in depth get 'Game of Gods'

A real eye opener.

Then watch some of Yuvul Harrari's video's on transhumanism and how "faith" and "free will" are a "thing of the past".

Quite shocking.
 

Jackfists

Rookie
Joined
Jul 16, 2022
Messages
35
Yuvul Harrari - writer of “Sapiens”? He might just turn out to be the Antichrist!
yes and Homo Deus 2.0 < Basically merging fully with AI so "we can be like Gods" and "free will is a thing of the past!"

There are many youtube video's quoting him directly on this. He's also a big adviser to the WEF, Google, and in line with Ray Kurzweil.

He's certainly parroting all the right ideas to be considered an Anti-Christ, and by pure definition he obviously is "God and Jesus are fake news!" but he's just a misguided hateful, spiteful atheist who wants to play God.
 

YAH444

Rookie
Joined
Jan 1, 2021
Messages
33
Transgenderism, IMO, is one step from Transhumanism. It's roots are in Feminism, which was not to empower women but to make them dislike womanhood, motherhood both of which are powerful when their femininity is properly embraced. A strong woman is a good woman. Feminism does not create strong women, it creates angry and defeated women. Now transgenderism, the confusion of being whatever you like gender wise. Gender was once used to describe words. Sex was (and is) used to describe the genetic, morphological , hormonal and physiological differences between a man and a woman. In order to try and erase this, transgenderism is trojan horsing itself into biology by first making gender a thing that is akin to sex. It is not. Once this is accomplished then the assault on what it is to be a human will come as they begin to introduce the singularity or transhumanism into the fold. Once the first humans take inorganic parts that are controlled by AI, at first for those who are paraplegic, quadraplegic, or have alzheimers and are cured, the acceptance of such technology will increase exponentially and the debate will begin on "what is it to be human?" When people start to fully embrace these short cuts to "super human" ability, are they human, are they machine?

One thing for sure, they are not renewed as they would have become at the second coming.

And that's the trap.

Satan has always wanted to play God. He wants to offer you "immortality" in the form of transhumanism where by you will be mirrored in the cloud (your memories and consciousness that is) and transferred to future grown bodies that are organic on the outside, inorganic on the inside. You will never die!

But is this true?

It isn't.

They can't put your soul in the cloud. Once you die from your organic body all that remains is a DVD of yourself, pictures, memories, video's, etc. It's not a "ghost" of you. You are gone.

That will be the trap, and thankfully it will be optional. The Devil has no choice. He cannot impose his will on you, he can only temp you to destroy yourself. Observe Job.

Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves people :)
100% facts
 
Top