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Then the UK today,

UK calls on ICJ to decline issuing an advisory opinion

Speaking at the ICJ, UK representatives said Israel’s occupation is illegal and called for a two-state negotiated solution, but argued against the court giving an advisory opinion on a number of grounds:
  • The court would be inappropriately ruling on a bilateral dispute. Where a request is directly related to the main point of a dispute, the court should refrain from giving an opinion.
  • The court’s advisory jurisdiction cannot be used to provide a form of judicial recourse for parties, nor should the court resolve disputes between the parties using its advisory jurisdiction.
  • Issuing an opinion would undermine the current security framework led by the UN Security Council.
  • Israel has not agreed to the ICJ giving its opinion on the matter and the so-called non-circumvention principle compels the court to decline giving an opinion when there is a lack of consent.
  • The scope of a fact-finding mission would be too broad in the context of an ongoing and active conflict where the situation on the ground is rapidly shifting. The court “may draw legal conclusions on an incorrect factual basis”.

The two above think that the UNSC is the best option for a framework for peace. Yet for 75 years the UNSC has done nothing. And bizarrely the U.S has consistently said that UNSC resolutions have been unhelpful in putting an end to the ongoing genocide.









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ICJ Day 5 rundown from Al Jazeera live updates.

Namibia remembers painful colonial history in ICJ remarks on Israel’s occupation

Namibia’s Justice Minister Yvonne Dausab has taken the floor at the ICJ, demanding the court recognises Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories as illegal.
She made the following points:
  • “Namibia considers it a moral duty and a sacred responsibility to appear before this court” and address the question of the “indefensible occupation of Palestine by Israel.”
  • The parallels between Palestine and Namibia are “striking and painful”. Instead of exerting their right to govern themselves, “Palestinians and Namibians suffered the loss of human dignity … and the outright theft of their land and natural resources”.
  • Namibia still suffers from the effects of a long and unlawful occupation. The ICJ “played a vital role in our liberation struggle”. In its 1971 opinion, the court confirmed the right to self-determination as a “legal imperative”, paving the way to Namibia’s independence in 1990.
  • Because of Namibia’s experience with apartheid, “we cannot look the other way in the face of the brutal atrocities committed against the Palestinian people”. We ask the court “not to look away either”, she added.

Norway at ICJ: Israel’s occupation is ‘de facto annexation’

Norway has presented its arguments on the fifth day of the ICJ hearings on the lawfulness of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.
Here are the main points:
  • Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem constitute a chief obstacle to any prospects for a lasting peace in the region.
  • In its advisory opinion in 2004, the ICJ found that the construction of a wall in and around occupied East Jerusalem violates international law.
  • Numerous UN resolutions assessed that settlements are in flagrant breach of international law and stressed the need to reverse the “negative trends on the ground that are steadily eroding the possibility of a two-state solution”.
  • Developments on the ground “give reason to ask whether the occupation is turning into a de-facto annexation.”
  • Annexation is a unilateral act and is prohibited under customary international law.
  • The legal consequences arising from such a prolonged occupation violate the principle of self-determination and every state has the duty to refrain from any action that deprives people of this right.

Oman tells ICJ Palestinians living in ‘injustice, daily humiliation

Abdullah bin Salem bin Hamad Alharthy, representing Oman at the ICJ, tells the court that the people of Palestine “have been living under occupation, oppression, injustice and daily humiliation, while the international community failed to assist them in realising their aspirations to an independent state”.

He also made the following points:

  • The transfer of settlers by Israel over the decades is “designed to perpetuate the occupation and make it permanent”.
  • The forcible displacement of Palestinians and the transfer of citizens of the occupying power is prohibited under article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
  • “The 75-year occupation and settlement policy of the State of Israel preventing the establishment of a Palestinian state is an affront to international law.”
  • The court should find that the legal consequences for the government of Israel include the immediate cessation of all illegal acts including settlements and “associated illegal administrative frameworks”.
  • Third states are under a clear obligation not to recognise or facilitate the illegal situation in the occupied Palestinian territories and ensure Israel’s compliance to international humanitarian law.

Pakistan tells ICJ Israeli occupation ‘not irreversible’

Taking the floor on behalf of Pakistan, Minister for Law and Justice Ahmed Irfan Aslam says that while Israel has sought to make its occupation of Palestinian territories irreversible, history shows that reversibility is possible.
Aslam made the following points:
  • “Annexation” now applies to the entire Palestinian territories and this “might have been the intention all along”.
  • Israel has sought to create irreversible facts on the ground that make it impossible to end Israel’s occupation.
  • But it is not impossible to reverse the facts on the ground, and it has been done before, such as when France withdrew more than a million settlers from Algeria in 1962.
  • French settlers were not only more numerous than Israel’s in occupied East Jerusalem and the occupied West Bank but also better established.
  • The two-state solution “must be the basis for peace”.
  • The court’s advisory opinion will assist negotiation efforts “by making it possible for the parties to make process on the sound basis of international law”.

Indonesia’s foreign minister at ICJ: ‘Blatant violation of humanitarian law committed by Israel’

Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi tells the ICJ that she had left the G20 meeting in Brazil to personally address the court in The Hague and “express the solidarity of the Indonesian people on a matter of supreme importance”.
“I stand before you to defend justice against a blatant violation of international humanitarian law that is being committed by Israel,” she said while also making the following remarks:
  • “Israel’s unlawful occupation and its atrocities must stop and should not be normalised or recognised. It is clear that Israel has zero intention to abide by international legal obligations.”
  • No state should be granted “free rein to do anything it wants against weaker states. This is why we have international law.”
  • There is no ground for the court to decline giving an advisory opinion. Some countries have argued that doing so would undermine the peace process, but this argument is invalid because there are no viable negotiations taking place at the moment and the court is not called on to decide on the conflict as a whole.
  • All actions that preclude the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination “shall be unlawful”. It is clear that the continuation of Israel’s “apartheid regime” is in breach of international law.

Qatar says ‘credibility of international legal order’ depends on ICJ opinion

Senior Qatari diplomat Mutlaq al-Qahtani has told the ICJ there is growing perception that some basic tenants of international law “apply to some but not to others, that some people are seen as deserving security, freedom and self-determination but others are not”.
“Some children are deemed worthy of protection while others are killed in their thousands,” he said.
“Qatar rejects such double standards. International law must be upheld in all circumstances. It must be applied to all and there must be accountability,” al-Qahtani said as he made the following points:
  • Israel has “ethnically cleansed and colonised” the Palestinian territories and implemented an “apartheid regime” with the intent of “maintaining the domination of Jewish Israelis over Palestinians”.
  • Israel’s illegal discriminatory practices are the “tools of a longstanding settler colonial project.” Settler policies are designed for the “permanent colonisation of the [occupied Palestinian territories] for the exclusive benefit of Jewish settlers … and are the root cause of the cycle of violence there”.
  • Statements by Israeli government members suggest the besieged Gaza Strip may be the next part of the Palestinian territories to be subject to Israeli settlements.
  • Israel’s occupation is illegal as it violates the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people; the prohibition of apartheid; the prohibition of the use of force; the prohibition of annexation; the obligation for it to be temporary, carried out in good faith and in the best interest of the occupied population.
  • The court has the “clear mandate and indeed the responsibility to remedy to this unacceptable situation. The credibility of the international legal order depends on your opinion and the stakes cannot be higher.”

Slovenia at ICJ: Self-determination ‘fundamental’ right for all

Slovenia has argued in favour of the ICJ giving an advisory opinion and stressed the Israeli occupation breaches fundamental human rights, including the right to self-determination.
Here’s what its representative said:
  • The need for negotiations is not a compelling reason for the court to decline giving an advisory opinion. On the contrary, negotiations can only achieve a lasting solution on the basis of the court’s legal directives.
  • A Palestinian state must exist alongside an Israeli state and Slovenia reiterates its support for a negotiated two-state solution.
  • The right to self-determination is not “some random right” but runs parallel to the equal rights of people. It is a “fundamental human right having a broad scope of application”.
  • The people of Slovenia were able to establish their own sovereign and independent state and believe this right to be an “indispensable pillar of the international legal order”.
  • The ongoing Israeli occupation is an impediment to the right to self-determination and the establishment of the Palestinian state.

Sudan argues in favour of ICJ advisory opinion

Sudan’s representatives have focused their remarks at the ICJ on the court’s duty to provide an advisory opinion, arguing:
  • The ICJ should issue an advisory opinion to “convey a definitive message to both Israel and Palestine that they need to redouble their efforts to achieve peace and security”.
  • The UN General Assembly has the power to ask the ICJ to provide an advisory opinion on any legal question. This request has been made in accordance to the UN Charter and the questions are legal in character.
  • The court has the discretion to decide whether or not to respond. However, it is an established jurisprudential principle that a request should not be rebuked.
  • Israel is not cooperating in the proceedings, but lack of collaboration is often the case in UN proceedings and should not be an impediment.

Israeli settlements ‘biggest obstacle’ to two-state solution: Norway

Norway says Israel’s continuing occupation of the Palestinian territories and expanding settlement enterprise are the primary obstacles to a two-state solution.
In comments before the ICJ, Norwegian Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide said “the injustice to which the Palestinians are subjected must stop” and that a two-state solution is “the only solution to the conflict between Israel and Palestine”.
Eide added that “while the eyes of the world are focused on the horrific war in Gaza, the situation in the [occupied] West Bank, including [occupied] East Jerusalem, is also very serious”.


Switzerland at ICJ: Israel set up ‘coercive environment’ in Palestinian territories

Switzerland has argued in its remarks before the ICJ that Israel has put in place in the occupied Palestinian territories a “coercive environment” that “cannot be justified under security requirements because it affects the well-being of the population and is discriminatory in nature”.
Swiss representatives argued that Israel, as the occupier, has the obligation to maintain the status quo on the territory and protects the well-being of the population. The Fourth Geneva Convention reaffirms the relevance of human rights in the context of occupation, they said.
The occupier might enforce new laws to guarantee the security of the occupier, the order of public life and the respect of humanitarian law, but the measures adopted by Israel in the occupied territories contravene the previously mentioned criteria and aggravate the risk of forced population transfers and the use of lethal force preventively and disproportionately, said the Swiss representatives.


Syria tells ICJ Israel’s occupation must end ‘without delay’

Representatives of Syria have called on the ICJ to issue an advisory decision in light of the many Israeli violations in the occupied Palestinian territories, including restrictions of movement, the application of a two-tier legal system and the consolidation of settlements and other forms of institutional discrimination.
The delegation reminded the court that a “huge record of UN resolutions” that Israel continues to violate – 180 from the UN General Assembly and 227 of the Security Council – testify to its wrongdoings.
The forced displacement of Palestinians and the confiscation of their land in parallel to the transfer of settlers is prohibited under international law. The court should clarify that Palestinians must be able to exercise their right to self-determination and that Israel must remove all structures that prevent this “without delay.”
 

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WARNING: Distressing footage.

Imagine witnessing your brother die, then picking up his body, putting it in a sack and carrying it on your shoulder in an attempt to preserve his body so you can bury him with dignity. Would you then happily abide by the occupying power (Israel) and adhere to their laws and regulations?

How could anyone lap up that piss poor excuse of ‘eliminating khamas’ as justification for scenes like this?
They’re literally creating more resistance fighters, to further their occupation and tyranny, to use foreign aid to fund their genocide, to defeat the very issue they created and continue to create. It’s intentional, it always has been.

 

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I saw that earlier, such despicable vile ignorance displayed by different US representatives. Has there ever been a time when Western nation's leadership were so far distanced from the spirit of their constituents? IMO the sad thing is that governments have been so polluted for decades that now only the most base seek to serve the establishment and rise in those ranks. PC had a more full documentation (than the video) of the exchange with this evil soul Ogles:

“So, I think we should kill them all,” replied Ogles, reportedly adding “If that makes you feel better.”

The woman responded, “Do you have a heart? Do you have a family?”

“Hamas and the Palestinians have been attacking Israel for 20 years. It is time to ‘Pay the Piper,’” Ogles replied.

The group continued to press him saying ‘Israel has been attacking Palestine,” and “Israel is an occupier.”

“Your naivety doesn’t make it the truth,” Ogles responded.

The group pursued him further saying ‘There’s a genocide happening right now,”; “They’re starving women and children. How is that going after Hamas?”; “They’ve killed over 300 health care workers. Shame on you!”; and “How is turning off water and power on pregnant women going after Hamas?”

Another was heard shouting “AIPAC zombie!”


AIPAC zombie indeed. God bless the people challenging these twisted souls in person.



You can bet on it. It's like a sewage pipe continually pumping out feces; for the time being there's no end to the flow of the lowest filth in government. This rep in your neck of the woods, his "husband" is an Israeli cyber-warfare agent:

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/new-labour-mp-married-former-israeli-spy-recruiter


God help us. It's only been the last couple years I've grown to understand the "Anglo-American" conspiracy concept. I think it's very real in how both lands are facing the same troubling dilemma against one oligarchic source.
It is a sign of the hour when the worst of us become our rulers.

It doesn't matter what nation you look at. Corruption is global today.
 

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Why is the Crimson Chin having phone conversations with the Israeli president? Why was this omitted from the full report?


They have your leaders, your future leaders and anyone even considering running, in a chokehold.
When the speaker of the house was sworn in, Mike Johnson i think, the very first night he made a call to Satanyahu.

To say they are owned is an understatement
 

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The irony is that Hamas's Oct 7 raid into Israel served no useful purpose whatsoever.
Sure, it killed lots of jews, but there are still millions more left.
Hmm... our in-house troublemaker.
What a shame.
I know the Catholic ethos is hard to shake --
If I'd been the Hamas big boss I'd have... said... wait til we get our hands on nukes supplied by Pakistan and Iran, then we'll finish the job".
... but would you really?

That wasn’t the goal of The resistance though, they’ve stated they want to live alongside Jews.
Interesting.
I have never heard that one - not from Hamas.

The Palestinian citizens have been saying it for a long time, though. The subject appears to be taboo around here, but most everyone seems to be aligned exclusively with Hamas; not the people of Palestine.

It's unlikely anyone knows the opinions of the people exist apart from Hamas-- someone would have said something by now (I hope). But they do, and they're pretty well documented.

Granted, support for Hamas increases dramatically during wartime, but that's to be expected-- the alternative isn't worth mentioning. -.-
Most Palestinians said their freedom of speech is guaranteed to either a limited or no extent at all.
Sept. 2023
And that was on a good day.
Have a google.

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