BTS discussion thread

[mang0_sm00thi3]

Rm pay tribute to Matthew Perry when he die, maybe doesn't mean nothing, but that sound fishy to me :

Hmm…Perhaps the paying of tribute in itself isn’t fishy. What may a lil sus is the timing of the video 2:29. 229 is Lucif3r in gematria and the 50th prime. Satanic= 50 in gematria. Luc1fer is also 223 like Skull and Cr0ssbones. Also some of the details of what is shown in the video numberwise could raise some eyebrows and cause one to give pause. Anyway I will go ahead and say here- all numbers have negative and positive words associated with them gematriawise.

Anyway what really is a very odd set of coincidences raised about the M@tthew Perry situation is actually outside this video. Matt did a interview with Bill M@her last year on November 18, 2022 talking about his addiction and struggles. November 18 is the 322th day of the year (think Order 322 aka Skull and Bones) in non-leap years like ‘22 (which 22= bones too btw). Then M@her went on to say in that interview concerning Matt “A lot did have you in the de@d p00l”. And then, less than one year later, the man is found deceased after an apparent drowning on a day of not only a full moon but of a lunar eclipse as well. Again, I cannot say or prove what exactly happened in the case of this man’s unfortunate demise, but the alignments are indeed weird. I will leave it at that.

 

[arhur12]

Well if what you say is true, and that basically this industry has been using T@emin as a means to usher forward the gender-fluid twisted agenda as we now know it, then it doesn’t sound too far-fetched. And the way several members of this forum have posted about the Suchw1ta episode he was on, as to how he was treated on the show, the industry was sure not to give Taem1n too much credit. After all, the way the industry sees it, Taem1n is their product and they groomed him to be what he has become. They also apparently feel they can also use him, portray him, and treat him as they see fit. It’s sick, sad, and dirty. And from the scene around him you have described, there’s no telling what types of abuse T@emin might have endured. He practically basically grew up in this corrupt business. T@emin’s appearance on Suchw1ta, (which is basically Skull and B0nes in gematria, especially when considered with its theme song) was very much so by the numbers. I posted a lot about this. You know the Daechwita single from D-2, Suchw1ta’s theme song was released 5/22/20 the 12th anniversary of Shin33’s release of their debut album with single Replay.

CORRECTION: I owe you all a quick apology. I just realized something. I know I said earlier that the group Sh1n33 debuted on 5/22, but it appears I must have mistook their 1st album debut date (5/22/08) with their official debut date as a group. Anyway when I google for their debut 5/25/08 comes up consistently. Oops! I’m sorry.

Anyway, the Skull and B0nes connection to this official 5/25 debut date still holds. 5/25/08, was the 146th day of the year, leaving 220 days. In gematria 220 is a number for “The Br0therhood of Death” (also known as Skull and B0nes). Also if you remove “The” and go with “Br0therhood of Death” you get 146, the day of the year of their official debut. A similar skull and bones relationship of first album debut along with the subsequent official group debut holds true BTS as well btw, just with different numbers.
What’s very crazy about Sh1n33’s debut album which they released “Replay” as the lead single is how the numbers for “Replay” in Gematria match up to D2, Daechw1ta, Suchw1ta, Yoong1 and M1n Yoong1 numbers. “Replay” is even 20 in gematria like “T@em1n” is also 20 and he appeared in episode 20 on Suchw1ta. It’s very crazy.

Yes this is why I felt that Sug@ and JM were rude towards him. They kept praising JM's dancing but didn't talk much about T@emin's dancing skills. He really has been through a lot. I agree with you about the industry using him as a puppet to spread their agendas.
He used to get the Britney Spears treatment on variety shows where they would ask him to answer inappropriate questions and creepy old men would try to touch him. Which is also kind of interesting because the Britney-Taemin parallels don't end there. He also has songs called Criminal and Slave same as Britney and both of them have also performed with real snakes (he had a real snake in one of his MVs). Just today he performed in a Catholic school uniform too. Too many coincidences or something else?

In general Sh1nee have a lot of disturbing scenes surrounding them. They have never been able to win prestigious awards but their concepts have been copied by everyone in the industry and they have managed to stay relevant longer than a lot of other BGs despite many terrible things happening to them through the years.

 

[mang0_sm00thi3]

Yes this is why I felt that Sug@ and JM were rude towards him. They kept praising JM's dancing but didn't talk much about T@emin's dancing skills. He really has been through a lot. I agree with you about the industry using him as a puppet to spread their agendas.
He used to get the Britney Spears treatment on variety shows where they would ask him to answer inappropriate questions and creepy old men would try to touch him. Which is also kind of interesting because the Britney-Taemin parallels don't end there. He also has songs called Criminal and Slave same as Britney and both of them have also performed with real snakes (he had a real snake in one of his MVs). Just today he performed in a Catholic school uniform too. Too many coincidences or something else?

In general Sh1nee have a lot of disturbing scenes surrounding them. They have never been able to win prestigious awards but their concepts have been copied by everyone in the industry and they have managed to stay relevant longer than a lot of other BGs despite many terrible things happening to them through the years.

Dang! This is very very disturbing stuff. Man! I just…This is not the way we as humans should be treating our fellow man. And that Catholic School Uniform could definitely be another red flag b/c of all the associations with it and even more.

 

[mang0_sm00thi3]

Taemin's not like that at all he is one of the sweetest and most humble idols out there. I used to stan Sh1nee and I don't remember him ever acting conceited or like a "Diva". Just today he told Sh@wols who went to his fansign to not buy gifts for him and instead use that money on themselves. He was also one of the first idols who stopped receiving fan gifts for birthdays and he was only 20 years old at that time. Meanwhile, BT$ kept receiving expensive fan gifts until 2018-19 even after they became mega stars. Baekhyun and Wendy have also told their fans not to spend too much money to buy albums and instead use their money on themselves too but you don't see BT$ members say that to armchairs.


About JM I remember his dancing being more fluid. His backup dancers are dancing better than him. It is more apparent in set me free P2 where dancers carry the entire performance. I just think they got lazy or he is just not that good as a soloist. Back then, he had BT$ members to support him so he could focus on the choreo only but now he has to focus on both choreo and singing so he is having a difficult time. Its still bad because Ka1 from Ex0 is also a dancer and and having a solo career did not affect his overall dance and performing skills.

Getting deeper into the discussion about all the likely mistreatment and likely trauma/abuse T@em1n has endured working in the industry really humanized him for me. It made me realize getting caught up in the evils of the industry can lead to the tendency of viewing artists in a negative way. At the end of the day they are still human, and most likely have redeeming qualities. Anyway I got reminded of the old saying I was raised with “if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all”. Apparently I temporarily forgot and posted the rude thoughts on T@emin’s personality (who I don’t know) above. By your response, it seemed to have triggered some indignation in you, and rightly so. I apologize. After I coming to my senses I feel bad and wish I had never posted that about him. Some things are better left unsaid regardless of whether they are true or not. I will try to do better moving forward.

 

[arhur12]

Dang! This is very very disturbing stuff. Man! I just…This is not the way we as humans should be treating our fellow man. And that Catholic School Uniform could definitely be another red flag b/c of all the associations with it and even more.

The industry is full of dark things. IU who also debuted at 14 and in the same year as T@emin was also given a lolita concept by her company and when she tried to call out knetz after growing up they tried to cancel her. Hyun@ is another idol who was sexualised as a minor and when she tried to talk about it Knetz weren't happy. Sull1 one of the idols who commit suicide also debuted as a minor and her group also worked with the same pedo freak MHJ who exploited T@emin and is now exploiting NJ.

T@emin is a Catholic so maybe they used Catholic uniforms because of that. His solo songs and videos are filled with a lot of religious symbolism and metaphors. Idk if there is more symbolism behind Catholic uniforms. If you know something please share.

 

[minnie82]

Yes this is why I felt that Sug@ and JM were rude towards him. They kept praising JM's dancing but didn't talk much about T@emin's dancing skills. He really has been through a lot. I agree with you about the industry using him as a puppet to spread their agendas.
He used to get the Britney Spears treatment on variety shows where they would ask him to answer inappropriate questions and creepy old men would try to touch him. Which is also kind of interesting because the Britney-Taemin parallels don't end there. He also has songs called Criminal and Slave same as Britney and both of them have also performed with real snakes (he had a real snake in one of his MVs). Just today he performed in a Catholic school uniform too. Too many coincidences or something else?

In general Sh1nee have a lot of disturbing scenes surrounding them. They have never been able to win prestigious awards but their concepts have been copied by everyone in the industry and they have managed to stay relevant longer than a lot of other BGs despite many terrible things happening to them through the years.

Yes plus both Britney and Taemin started very young and they were both sexualized

 

[arhur12]

Getting deeper into the discussion about all the likely mistreatment and likely trauma/abuse T@em1n has endured working in the industry really humanized him for me. It made me realize getting caught up in the evils of the industry can lead to the tendency of viewing artists in a negative way. At the end of the day they are still human, and most likely have redeeming qualities. Anyway I got reminded of the old saying I was raised with “if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all”. Apparently I temporarily forgot and posted the rude thoughts on T@emin’s personality (who I don’t know) above. By your response, it seemed to have triggered some indignation in you, and rightly so. I apologize. After I coming to my senses I feel bad and wish I had never posted that about him. Some things are better left unsaid regardless of whether they are true or not. I will try to do better moving forward.

Yes that's what I think as well and a lot of times these idols are scouted so young there isn't really anything they can do to rebel against the system.

I wasn't offended by your comments because I don't stan Sh1nee or any other K-pop group. Its just that I don't understand why BT$ were chosen and not idols who are actually talented. $hinee and Ex0 are one of the most talented groups but they never managed to break out. Ex0's Baekhyun, Ch3n and D.O are some of the best vocalists in the entire industry while BT$'s vocal line is like at the bottom in terms of vocal skills. J0nghyun too he was super talented and a prodigy but Ig he did not meet their criteria. Also, such a kindhearted person who talked about social issues like mental health and bullying. There are a lot of good qualities in these people too.
I don't really stan T@emin but I admire his work ethic and wish he was the one who went global instead of BT$'s soloists because he is really such a hard working and talented person. When he debuted he could not sing like at all and he does not have any lines in Sh1nee's debut album but he worked tirelessly to improve his vocals and now he is one of the best vocalists in the industry only a little bit behind idols like Baekhyun in terms of skill. On top of that, even in dancing he was self-taught. Most main dancers like JM, JH and Ka1 have gone to dance schools or received some formal dance training. However, T@emin didn't receive any formal training except the basic dance training every company provides to idols and yet he is THE best main dancer in K-pop and now with his latest comeback he has learned how to rap too. That man in his 15th year is working harder than a lot of rookies which is rare in kpop.


JM and other BT$ members always say they are taking vocal lessons but the results are never reflected in their live performances. JM's skill is the same as it was 10 years ago and the same can be said for other BT$ members. Really, they have no excuse for this. People pay to see BT$ in live concerts so they should at least learn how to sing properly. Every once in a while they become viral because of their terrible live voices They are so rich now can they not go and get proper vocal lessons? If they are aiming for the west they should really be focusing on their live singing skills.

 

[mang0_sm00thi3]

Yes that's what I think as well and a lot of times these idols are scouted so young there isn't really anything they can do to rebel against the system.

I wasn't offended by your comments because I don't stan Sh1nee or any other K-pop group. Its just that I don't understand why BT$ were chosen and not idols who are actually talented. $hinee and Ex0 are one of the most talented groups but they never managed to break out. Ex0's Baekhyun, Ch3n and D.O are some of the best vocalists in the entire industry while BT$'s vocal line is like at the bottom in terms of vocal skills. J0nghyun too he was super talented and a prodigy but Ig he did not meet their criteria. Also, such a kindhearted person who talked about social issues like mental health and bullying. There are a lot of good qualities in these people too.
I don't really stan T@emin but I admire his work ethic and wish he was the one who went global instead of BT$'s soloists because he is really such a hard working and talented person. When he debuted he could not sing like at all and he does not have any lines in Sh1nee's debut album but he worked tirelessly to improve his vocals and now he is one of the best vocalists in the industry only a little bit behind idols like Baekhyun in terms of skill. On top of that, even in dancing he was self-taught. Most main dancers like JM, JH and Ka1 have gone to dance schools or received some formal dance training. However, T@emin didn't receive any formal training except the basic dance training every company provides to idols and yet he is THE best main dancer in K-pop and now with his latest comeback he has learned how to rap too. That man in his 15th year is working harder than a lot of rookies which is rare in kpop.


JM and other BT$ members always say they are taking vocal lessons but the results are never reflected in their live performances. JM's skill is the same as it was 10 years ago and the same can be said for other BT$ members. Really, they have no excuse for this. People pay to see BT$ in live concerts so they should at least learn how to sing properly. Every once in a while they become viral because of their terrible live voices They are so rich now can they not go and get proper vocal lessons? If they are aiming for the west they should really be focusing on their live singing skills.

Thanks for your response. After coming to my senses and reconsidering things, I could discern that although you may not necessarily stan T@em1n (or any kpop artist) you still have a measure of respect for him. So that’s why I offered an apology to you. Plus it was just wrong for me to post something like that in general and I regret it. When I become aware I’ve made a mistake, I’ve learned to reach out and try to make things right. I value peace with others as well as inner peace. I’m glad to hear you weren’t offended though.

As for the issue of talent. Like I said before, when it comes to who becomes the most popular, unfortunately it’s not necessarily about who is the most talented or best performer. As you know, there are a lot of twisted dynamics and powers in the entertainment industry.

 

[mang0_sm00thi3]

The industry is full of dark things. IU who also debuted at 14 and in the same year as T@emin was also given a lolita concept by her company and when she tried to call out knetz after growing up they tried to cancel her. Hyun@ is another idol who was sexualised as a minor and when she tried to talk about it Knetz weren't happy. Sull1 one of the idols who commit suicide also debuted as a minor and her group also worked with the same pedo freak MHJ who exploited T@emin and is now exploiting NJ.

T@emin is a Catholic so maybe they used Catholic uniforms because of that. His solo songs and videos are filled with a lot of religious symbolism and metaphors. Idk if there is more symbolism behind Catholic uniforms. If you know something please share.

Concerning the fact that his wearing a Catholic uniform (especially in the light of some of the things you described about him growing up in the industry) might be a red flag: It reminds of the fact that (1) (With all due respect to innocent practicing Catholics) Numerous reports/allegations of the sexu@l abuse of children and others within the Catholic Church are widespread and well-known and (2) The J3suit 0rder, aka The Soc1ety of Jesus, is a Roman Catholic Order with a suspicious history (again no offense to any innocent J3suits btw). That’s it for the most part.

 

[arhur12]

Concerning the fact that his wearing a Catholic uniform (especially in the light of some of the things you described about him growing up in the industry) might be a red flag: It reminds of the fact that (1) (With all due respect to innocent practicing Catholics) Numerous reports/allegations of the sexu@l abuse of children and others within the Catholic Church are widespread and well-known and (2) The J3suit 0rder, aka The Soc1ety of Jesus, is a Roman Catholic Order with a suspicious history (again no offense to any innocent J3suits btw). That’s it for the most part.

Ohh yeah I have heard about that stuff and to be honest I will agree with you on this. There have been countless child stars in the past who were exploited by predators in the entertainment industry. Some time after Sull1 from f(x) died rumors started to circulate that she had been abused by Seoul's mayor. Don't know what happened to her but there was a blind item about her on CDAN.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/07/blind-items-revealed-44.html
There was another one about a 2nd gen male idol but they never revealed who it was about. People suspect it was either G-drag0n or T@emin.
A lot of times idols try to tell people that they are going through something but kpop stans are dense and think everything is a concept. Both Sull1 and J0nghyun tried to warn their fans through their music but no one paid attention. I already told you what happened to IU and Hyun@. When NJ debuted with a sexy concept international and Korean fans defended MHJ like their life depended on it. They want to close their eyes and just enjoy the music. I am no longer a Sh1nee fan but I remember even Sh@wols would deny that how MCs sexualized a minor T@emin on variety shows was wrong. He had been doing songs about his struggles with fame and loss of innocence since a long time but Sh1nee fans just labeled it as a concept. Only after the release of this album where he made it quite clear that this is about him and his life some fans have started to wake up to the truth about what happens to minors in this industry. Still, it is not enough. Even if international fans try they cannot really do anything. Only thing they can and should do is boycott kpop. At least not listen to songs released by groups with minors in them. If companies see that people are not showing interest in groups debuting minors then maybe this evil practice can be stopped.

 

[arhur12]

Thanks for your response. After coming to my senses and reconsidering things, I could discern that although you may not necessarily stan T@em1n (or any kpop artist) you still have a measure of respect for him. So that’s why I offered an apology to you. Plus it was just wrong for me to post something like that in general and I regret it. When I become aware I’ve made a mistake, I’ve learned to reach out and try to make things right. I value peace with others as well as inner peace. I’m glad to hear you weren’t offended though.

As for the issue of talent. Like I said before, when it comes to who becomes the most popular, unfortunately it’s not necessarily about who is the most talented or best performer. As you know, there are a lot of twisted dynamics and powers in the entertainment industry.

I also think that the people who lack talent are easier to manipulate. Like if I know I am not good enough to make it big through my talent I might be more willing to use underhanded means to get famous. Just look at Jkay he completely sold out to become famous. He forgot his roots and became a white pop boy to get western validation.
BTW you don't have to apologize you didn't say anything that offended me. This place is for discussion and sometimes we have different opinions and that's completely fine.

 

[mang0_sm00thi3]

I also think that the people who lack talent are easier to manipulate. Like if I know I am not good enough to make it big through my talent I might be more willing to use underhanded means to get famous. Just look at Jkay he completely sold out to become famous. He forgot his roots and became a white pop boy to get western validation.
BTW you don't have to apologize you didn't say anything that offended me. This place is for discussion and sometimes we have different opinions and that's completely fine.

While I wouldn’t go so far as to imply that JKay and the BTeeS guys lack talent, the way the industry moves is much less about talent/merit than it is about authority and who is decided to be pushed to the top. And it isn’t always purely the ambition and tactics of an individual artist that gets them to the top either. The world is a stage. And all the reasons for this allude me to be honest. I keep learning more about it everyday.

And thank you for your reassurance. I realize it wasn’t a huge deal and I didn’t have to apologize, but I wanted to. It wasn’t about disagreement or differences of opinion either. That is wholly expected and actually a very enjoyable/interesting part of this forum. But what I came to see from our interaction is that I can be and want to be more responsible with the opinions I share and how I share them. And I wanted to be sure to validate the value of your feelings and opinions, just in case an unintended message had gotten across.

 

[mang0_sm00thi3]

Ohh yeah I have heard about that stuff and to be honest I will agree with you on this. There have been countless child stars in the past who were exploited by predators in the entertainment industry. Some time after Sull1 from f(x) died rumors started to circulate that she had been abused by Seoul's mayor. Don't know what happened to her but there was a blind item about her on CDAN.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/07/blind-items-revealed-44.html
There was another one about a 2nd gen male idol but they never revealed who it was about. People suspect it was either G-drag0n or T@emin.
A lot of times idols try to tell people that they are going through something but kpop stans are dense and think everything is a concept. Both Sull1 and J0nghyun tried to warn their fans through their music but no one paid attention. I already told you what happened to IU and Hyun@. When NJ debuted with a sexy concept international and Korean fans defended MHJ like their life depended on it. They want to close their eyes and just enjoy the music. I am no longer a Sh1nee fan but I remember even Sh@wols would deny that how MCs sexualized a minor T@emin on variety shows was wrong. He had been doing songs about his struggles with fame and loss of innocence since a long time but Sh1nee fans just labeled it as a concept. Only after the release of this album where he made it quite clear that this is about him and his life some fans have started to wake up to the truth about what happens to minors in this industry. Still, it is not enough. Even if international fans try they cannot really do anything. Only thing they can and should do is boycott kpop. At least not listen to songs released by groups with minors in them. If companies see that people are not showing interest in groups debuting minors then maybe this evil practice can be stopped.

Yea I definitely believe a lot of the time the concepts are art imitating life on many levels. They don’t seem random to me.

 

[daughter of the most high]

i’m led to post this both here and the kpop thread..


they show what they have been thru via music videos. (that’s just another layer of the meaning behind them) they have no other way to tell and ask for help but to show it thru the music videos and release the pain that was in them. the problem is that people pick up things and the actual state of the soul of those who they idolize BUT due to the amount of shine and glow and stardom etc. the way the person they idolize pretends to act as if they are ALL RIGHT and there is nothing wrong, the fans eyes are blinded and that’s only ONE of the THINGS that blinds their eyes and vision refusing to pick up on the signs and energy that’s emitted in the spirit. (we are spirit we pick up things in the spirit like it or not like it that it how it is)

another thing that blinds their perception is their obsession and the image they have painted of said idol in their heads which is an image that doesn’t exist at all.

speaking of taemin here he has suffered a lot and his single “guilty” is about what he has been thru it’s all about himself and the abuse he has been thru(part of it due to the suffering being so much that it can not be contained in a music video)



what is being forgotten is that those “idols” are human beings who also have feeling and go thru things for the sake of fame. there is a moment in time where they realize that they don’t want to be part of this anymore but to them there is no way out (that’s the lie of the devil) the way out is difficult and can cost you your life and of course the glossy image you have become famous with which is nothing else than a facade.



those people are BROKEN. obsessing and idolizing a broken and depressed person will surely have an effect on you and make break you further. transmission of pain->transmission of unhealed wounds->making you feel the way this person feels and reminds you of different/similar fiery situations you have gone thru that hurt you and you NEVER healed of them->unhealed wounds lead to opening of portals and that’s how demons come into the vessel of a person->the reason people can’t get rid easily of those demons is:

1. they really don’t know how to deal with it which is calling in the name of Jesus Christ Yahusha Hamaschiah and repenting of their sin turning to Him and FORGIVING all those who have hurt them so that they would be forgiven by YAH and the process of healing which His help can begin. it’s a a very long process and very painful but in the end is so glorious(i know this from my own experience)
2. what people don’t know about demons is that they originated from the dead(in flesh) offspring of the watchers(fallen angels who left their home to come and sleep with human women)->the nephilim=the giants. so how do you expect a person ant size to be able to battle with a giant mountain high? ONLY JESUS CAN SET YOU FREE AND BREAK & DESTROY THE BONDAGE YOU HAVE BEEN IN. people are chained to both their sin and pain and bloodline curses and more so those things must be worked upon so you can be freed in Jesus Christ Yahusha Hamaschiah Mighty Name Amen! so nothing will weight you down to the earth and you will be able to move freely in the spirit with YAH thru prayer and worship in spirit and truth without any hindrances.

if people don’t take the state of their soul seriously it will become really hard in the months ahead as the spiritual activity will increase greatly and many will be influenced by it due to having open doors to the enemy thru their unhealed bleeding wounds. this is what goes on with the lgbtq community and what movies it(TRAMA AND PAIN->open doors to trickster spirits) i used to be part of it before i know what i’m talking about and how YAH healed me once i began my journey of healing with Him and His Holy Written Word.



i pray this will help and open the eyes to whoever takes the time to read this. all of this was flowing thru YAH’s heart early morning so i was led by The Holy Spirit to share it. this is a battlefield and no soldier goes to battle wounded. HEAL. all of us need to heal. Only The Lord Jesus Christ can Heal you and use you for His Kingdoms purpose and for His Glory. Amen♡



May YAH Keep and Bless you and your whole household and may His Light Shine upon you and may the dragon scale put around your heart be destroyed in Jesus Mighty Name with The FIRE of The Holy Spirit burning it down and revealing your soft heart of flesh ready to absorb the Truth and may the Lord remove the scales of your eyes and ears so you can see and hear the truth.



do not trust your 5 senses but trust your spiritual senses for much deception abounds and your 5 senses will be greatly manipulated.



i love you♡

 

[arhur12]

Lie Detector caught Jungkook in 4k

m.youtube.com

He got caught lying to ratmies on camera. Ratmies should realize that they don't care about each other. The so called bond between members is fake and a tactic to manipulate armies.

 

[daughter of the most high]

YAH gave me revelation to something else so i will share it. i’ve gone thru an interesting journey of learning about emotions with YAH and He has taught me not to act on emotion but wait till that emotion is cooled down or if i’m home go into the prayer closet with that emotion and instead of having it about myself flip it and use it to pray to Him for other people(if you feel sorry and sad for yourself you would become a prey and an open door to the enemy because one thought leads to another and then suddenly a flood of thoughts that make you feel miserable. this can slightly open a door that’s been closed to the demon of/evil spirit in charge of depression which would then flood in(activate) and you would get ideas of suicide in your head and how the world would be a better place if you weren’t on it. this is all LIES from the enemy. see how he can manipulate your emotions and feelings and play mind games with you? while leaving you to think that those are your own thoughts?).

when you pray for others and put others before you and care for their souls as you would care for your own that is when the process of healing in you escalates because while you are focused on the pain of others YAH focuses on your pain and heals it and teaches you to praise Him in the storm and in sadness and even in anger (for example someone would make me really angry and i would take that anger into the prayer closet and use it to pray for child and human trafficking and the prayer would become really hot like burning fire and i would begin to feel the anger and pain and weeping of YAH and it would be released thru my body due to me partaking in His cup of sorrow He would share just a tiny drop of how He feels bc if it’s more than a drop you wouldn’t really be able to survive.)

all that energy is taken right into the prayer closet and flipped not for you but for the sake of others.

without further ado let’s get into it:



people become an image of whom they idolize. there are normal fans and there are crazy fans. normal fans would represent the “light” here(that’s just how it was explained to me in the spirit we are not talking of literal light but of false light like an aspect of the masks that’s on the idol. happy mask hiding/veiling the actual persona) and the crazy fans would represent the shadow. normal fans see mostly the shiny shiny in those idols and pick up mostly from the shiny and the love that’s presented to them by said idols (unless hatred and other negative emotions are triggered) meanwhile the crazy fans pick up mainly from their shadows the dark hidden side (again worked and influenced by demons) gets activated in those people. dark hidden side can also get activated in those “light” fans due to certain events and circumstances. the traumas of both categories fuse together spiritually with that of their idol. this is one of the reason their voices move you when they sing you feel emotional as a fan (soul ties) but if you are not a fan you won’t feel the way a fan would feel(souk ties have not been created and strengthened yet) you would still feel emotional if they sing well but not a fan type of emotional you know what u mean? so when it comes to singing a person can’t lie with the way their vibration/voice/singing makes you feel due to it being a way to release what’s kept in them what’s heavy on their chest/shoulders.->hearing a person sing what’s in their heart(meaning they produce the music and sing the lyrics written by them not lyrics and music that’s been bought and written by someone else) would open them as a book before you and nothing will be able to be hidden. but if you are highly spiritually sensitive then you won’t even need to hear them sing about their feeling but just hear them sing whatever because spiritually you would be able to discern the state they are in. that’s what YAH reveals to me and then leads me to write down names in my praying notebook as He instructs me and whoever He instructs me to put down.



long story short

the fan/idolater reflects the idol fully.

you become a mirror image of whoever you worship. that is how we are made to be on a core level in our DNA to always seek someone to worship and look up to as our role model and follow and this worship and honor is supposed to be for YAH.

adding more revelation: a normal fan “light” can become a crazy fan “shadow” which can turn into a pitch darkness fan “night” which is a fan who would turn into a hater. admiration transmutes into “love”->obsession->envy/jealousy->disappointment->hatred.
hatred will lead to threats and revenge

 

[minnie82]

Lie Detector caught Jungkook in 4k

m.youtube.com

He got caught lying to ratmies on camera. Ratmies should realize that they don't care about each other. The so called bond between members is fake and a tactic to manipulate armies.

not surprised about that

 

[arhur12]

Yea I definitely believe a lot of the time the concepts are art imitating life on many levels. They don’t seem random to me.

So, about the school uniform concept. I learned New Jeans popularized that concept with their song Ditto last year. They have been doing that concept for a while now and apparently it has become a new trend now. I think Taemin performing in one was intentional and possibly meant to be an attack on M1n Hee J1n his former creative director who is once again exploiting minors with NJ and Le Sserafim latest concepts. Earlier, Ratmies were accusing him for plagarising Vee's album. Vee's album was made by the same woman M1n Hee J1n and there were some similarities in concept photos but it seem intentional now. I don't think he has enough power to call her out directly because she is a very powerful person and now owns her own company. He would get blacklisted if he tried. The school uniforms are used as a symbol of institutionalization and oppression in his concept and not just some cute outfit for teenage idols like other group concepts so really trying to show the dark side of the industry. I just really hope people would pay attention because we rarely see idols coming out and trying to share their pain and every time an idol comes out they are viciously attacked and shut down by people. The issue of minors being abused by the kpop industry is so relevant in this day and age with more and more companies debuting minors and making them wear skimpy outfits and sing about sex.

I felt weird when I watched NJ's videos. These girls are styled to look like adult grown woman. They wear inappropriate clothes and dance provocatively in front of crowds filled with creepy men in their 30s and 40s. It really shows the hypocrisy of people when they support all of this and have a problem with a 30 year old man doing a sexual concept. Even BP's L1sa...I don't support what she was promoting but she is a grown ass woman who makes her own decisions. They were so quick to cancel her for her performance in France but no one bats an eye when young girls and boys are made to perform provocatively by older people in their companies. These children have no one to protect them and a lot of times they are under trainee debt. A senior idol doing a sexual concept is bad but a minor idol being forced to do a sexual concept is way worse because of the obvious power imbalance between the handlers and the idols.

 

[minnie82]

why everything looks forced, Jk was clearly like when this photoshoot end, i wanna go home :

 

[arhur12]

While I wouldn’t go so far as to imply that JKay and the BTeeS guys lack talent, the way the industry moves is much less about talent/merit than it is about authority and who is decided to be pushed to the top. And it isn’t always purely the ambition and tactics of an individual artist that gets them to the top either. The world is a stage. And all the reasons for this allude me to be honest. I keep learning more about it everyday.

And thank you for your reassurance. I realize it wasn’t a huge deal and I didn’t have to apologize, but I wanted to. It wasn’t about disagreement or differences of opinion either. That is wholly expected and actually a very enjoyable/interesting part of this forum. But what I came to see from our interaction is that I can be and want to be more responsible with the opinions I share and how I share them. And I wanted to be sure to validate the value of your feelings and opinions, just in case an unintended message had gotten across.

That's a nice way of dealing with things. I also try to be careful with my words because our words hold so much power.

Jkay is talented but he lacks a personality. When I think of pop icons in the past like MJ, Prince, David Bowie, Madonna etc these people had a distinct personality and style. People can recognize MJ just from his silhouette. He was that Iconic so comparing him to Jkay is like an insult to MJ. People see a man singing and dancing and they start calling them next MJ. Jkay may have sales and chart numbers comparable to a mega popstar but what he will be remembered for besides just being another pop boy? He is fairly talented and his album is a good pop album but his fans should stop calling him the next MJ or the King of Kpop because he is not on that level.