Are medicines permitted by God (according the REAL bible)

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What appears as Mark 16:9-20 in some Bible versions was very clearly ADDED to the Bible. It was NOT part of the original manuscripts.

Excerpt below from: https://www.gotquestions.org/Mark-16-9-20.html -

Although the vast majority of later Greek manuscripts contain Mark 16:9-20, the Gospel of Mark ends at verse 8 in two of the oldest and most respected manuscripts, the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus. As the oldest manuscripts are known to be the most accurate because there were fewer generations of copies from the original autographs (i.e., they are much closer in time to the originals), and the oldest manuscripts do not contain vv. 9-20, we can conclude that these verses were added later by scribes. The King James Version of the Bible, as well as the New King James, contains vv. 9-20 because the King James used medieval manuscripts as the basis of its translation. Since 1611, however, older and more accurate manuscripts have been discovered and they affirm that vv. 9-20 were not in the original Gospel of Mark.

In addition, the fourth-century church fathers Eusebius and Jerome noted that almost all Greek manuscripts available to them lacked vv. 9–20, although they doubtless knew those other endings existed. In the second century, Justin Martyr and Tatian knew about other endings. Irenaeus, also, in A.D. 150 to 200, must have known about this long ending because he quotes verse 19 from it. So, the early church fathers knew of the added verses, but even by the fourth century, Eusebius said the Greek manuscripts did not include these endings in the originals.
 

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What appears as Mark 16:9-20 in some Bible versions was very clearly ADDED to the Bible. It was NOT part of the original manuscripts.

Excerpt below from: https://www.gotquestions.org/Mark-16-9-20.html -

Although the vast majority of later Greek manuscripts contain Mark 16:9-20, the Gospel of Mark ends at verse 8 in two of the oldest and most respected manuscripts, the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus. As the oldest manuscripts are known to be the most accurate because there were fewer generations of copies from the original autographs (i.e., they are much closer in time to the originals), and the oldest manuscripts do not contain vv. 9-20, we can conclude that these verses were added later by scribes. The King James Version of the Bible, as well as the New King James, contains vv. 9-20 because the King James used medieval manuscripts as the basis of its translation. Since 1611, however, older and more accurate manuscripts have been discovered and they affirm that vv. 9-20 were not in the original Gospel of Mark.

In addition, the fourth-century church fathers Eusebius and Jerome noted that almost all Greek manuscripts available to them lacked vv. 9–20, although they doubtless knew those other endings existed. In the second century, Justin Martyr and Tatian knew about other endings. Irenaeus, also, in A.D. 150 to 200, must have known about this long ending because he quotes verse 19 from it. So, the early church fathers knew of the added verses, but even by the fourth century, Eusebius said the Greek manuscripts did not include these endings in the originals.

Keep on topic or start another thread please.
 

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Well…

The verses at the end of Mark 16 read:

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

What is not evident is the intention (as common sense is assumed)… The taking up of serpents or the drinking of deadly things is not encouraged in scripture. Looking at the wider context makes things clear.

Acts 28:3-6
3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.
3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.
4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.
5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.
6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

Why the sudden Bible study on snakes?

The disciples were told to pray for the sick. They were not told to casually pick up rattlesnakes or drink strychnine.

Because [and this is the point] by focussing on minutiae and deliberately excluding common sense and wider context, you can turn a redneck into a dead redneck really quickly!!!
Unfortunately it appears as soon as someone mentions a bible passage or anything that diverts attention off what AJH says about medicines, A Freeman resorts to "look there, a squirrel" British version:

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Keep him cornered.

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A look at the practice of pharmacy/sorcery/witchcraft/potions/poisons/"medicines" and the witches/pharmacists and witch-doctors/physicians who administer these poisons in Light of The Law, beginning with the Ten Commandments. Did Christ ever administer poisons to heal? Of course not. Isn't He (Christ) supposed to be our Example?

Exodus 20:3-17
20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
(Making a god out of doctors/physicians clearly violates this commandment. God tells us that He is our Healer - Exod. 15:26 and that the only Way to true healing is through obedience to Him)

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY graven image, or ANY likeness [of ANY thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth [neither shalt thou possess them if others make them]:
(The medical profession is filled with such images, e.g. the caduceus, rod of asclepius, bowl of hygeia)

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the "I AM" thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate [or disobey] Me;
(Putting witch-doctors/physicians and pharmacists up on a pedestal, is bowing down to them - also the hypocritical hippocratic oath swears allegiance to Greek gods)

20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love [and obey] Me, and KEEP My Commandments.

(We are COMMANDED not to allow a witch/pharmacist to live, to prevent us from being poisoned by them - Exod. 22:18; Deut. 18:9-13)

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the "I AM" thy God in vain (use it when not talking to Him, or about Him); for the "I AM" will not hold [him] guiltless that taketh His name in vain [and thus wasteth His time or insulteth Him].
(Anyone calling on the physicians/witch-doctors, and then crying out for God to help them once they've been poisoned by pharmacy/witchcraft, is likewise insulting and wasting God's time)

20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. [It is NOT wrong to do GOOD deeds on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made for man. Man was not made for the Sabbath.]
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day [is] the Sabbath of the "I AM" thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:
20:11 For [in] six days the "I AM" made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the "I AM" blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
(And yet doctors and hospitals work every Sabbath day administering their poisons against God's Will and Commandment)

20:12 Honour thy Father and thy mother (Israel): that thy days may be long upon the land which the "I AM" thy God giveth thee.
(God is our Father - see: Matt. 6:9-13; 23:9, and it should be self-evident that breaking His Commandments is not honouring Him)

20:13 Thou shalt not murder (kill un-Lawfully).
(More people have been murdered by the medical-chemical-pharmaceutical industrial complex than by all of the wars that have ever been fought)

20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery [neither personally, nor nationally].
(Virtually every nation on Earth just gave over the sovereign rights and freedoms of their citizens to the magic virus scam and its medical tyranny, that not only locked people in their homes against their will, but bankrupted and closed many private businesses, which is certainly a form of national idolatry)

20:15 Thou shalt not steal [nor make up thine own laws to enable thee to do so by fraud (deceiving people)].
(The "legalization" of murder via pharmaceutical drugs, chemotherapy, radiation and vaccine, and granting pharmaceutical companies immunity from being held responsible for the injuries and deaths they cause, while charging people outrageous sums to be poisoned are all forms of theft)

20:16 Thou shalt not tell lies [not even to thy "Self", neither to, nor] against thy neighbour.
(How many lies have we been told just about the magic virus (coronavirus) scam, to con people into taking their lethal injection?)

20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.
(The multi-trillion dollar medical-chemical-pharmaceutical industries have not only coveted but stolen the possessions of billions, sometimes wiping out the life-savings of families to pay for their satanic procedures which have never saved anyone - how could poisoning people to ensure they remain lifelong paying customers be any more covetous or deceitful?)

PHARMACY/SORCERY/WITCHCRAFT BREAKS ALL OF THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, MURDERING MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN AND INFANTS (BORN AND UNBORN) EVERY DAY
 
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A Letter to the Unvaccinated
Posted on August 2, 2021 by admin

OCLA researcher Dr. Denis Rancourt and several fellow Canadian academics penned an open letter to support those who have decided not to accept the COVID-19 vaccine.

The group emphasizes the voluntary nature of this medical treatment as well as the need for informed consent and individual risk-benefit assessment. They reject the pressure exerted by public health officials, the news and social media, and fellow citizens.

Control over our bodily integrity may well be the ultimate frontier of the fight to protect civil liberties. Read
the letter here:

Open Letter to the Unvaccinated


You are not alone! As of 28 July 2021, 29% of Canadians have not received a COVID-19 vaccine, and an additional 14% have received one shot. In the US and in the European Union, less than half the population is fully vaccinated, and even in Israel, the “world’s lab” according to Pfizer, one third of people remain completely unvaccinated. Politicians and the media have taken a uniform view, scapegoating the unvaccinated for the troubles that have ensued after eighteen months of fearmongering and lockdowns. It’s time to set the record straight.

It is entirely reasonable and legitimate to say ‘no’ to insufficiently tested vaccines for which there is no reliable science. You have a right to assert guardianship of your body and to refuse medical treatments if you see fit. You are right to say ‘no’ to a violation of your dignity, your integrity and your bodily autonomy. It is your body, and you have the right to choose. You are right to fight for your children against their mass vaccination in school.

You are right to question whether free and informed consent is at all possible under present circumstances. Long-term effects are unknown. Transgenerational effects are unknown. Vaccine-induced deregulation of natural immunity is unknown. Potential harm is unknown as the adverse event reporting is delayed, incomplete and inconsistent between jurisdictions.

You are being targeted by mainstream media, government social engineering campaigns, unjust rules and policies, collaborating employers, and the social-media mob. You are being told that you are now the problem and that the world cannot get back to normal unless you get vaccinated. You are being viciously scapegoated by propaganda and pressured by others around you. Remember; there is nothing wrong with you.

You are inaccurately accused of being a factory for new SARS-CoV-2 variants, when in fact, according to leading scientists, your natural immune system generates immunity to multiple components of the virus. This will promote your protection against a vast range of viral variants and abrogates further spread to anyone else.

You are justified in demanding independent peer-reviewed studies, not funded by multinational
pharmaceutical companies. All the peer-reviewed studies of short-term safety and short-term efficacy have been funded, organized, coordinated, and supported by these for-profit corporations; and none of the study data have been made public or available to researchers who don’t work for these companies.

You are right to question the preliminary vaccine trial results. The claimed high values of relative efficacy rely on small numbers of tenuously determined “infections.” The studies were also not blind, where people giving the injections admittedly knew or could deduce whether they were injecting the experimental vaccine or the placebo. This is not acceptable scientific methodology for vaccine trials.

You are correct in your calls for a diversity of scientific opinions. Like in nature, we need a polyculture of information and its interpretations. And we don’t have that right now. Choosing not to take the vaccine is holding space for reason, transparency and accountability to emerge. You are right to ask, ‘What comes next when we give away authority over our own bodies?’

Do not be intimidated. You are showing resilience, integrity and grit. You are coming together in your communities, making plans to help one another and standing for scientific accountability and free speech, which are required for society to thrive. We are among many who stand with you.

Angela Durante, PhD
Denis Rancourt, PhD
Claus Rinner, PhD
Laurent Leduc, PhD
Donald Welsh, PhD
John Zwaagstra, PhD
Jan Vrbik, PhD
Valentina Capurri, PhD
 

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A look at the practice of pharmacy/sorcery/witchcraft/potions/poisons/"medicines" and the witches/pharmacists and witch-doctors/physicians who administer these poisons in Light of The Law, beginning with the Ten Commandments.

Exodus 20:3-17
20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
(Making a god out of doctors/physicians clearly violates this commandment. God tells us that He is our Healer - Exod. 15:26 and that the only Way to true healing is through obedience to Him)

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY graven image, or ANY likeness [of ANY thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth [neither shalt thou possess them if others make them]:
(The medical profession is filled with such images, e.g. the caduceus, rod of asclepius, bowl of hygeia)

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the "I AM" thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate [or disobey] Me;
(Putting witch-doctors/physicians and pharmacists up on a pedestal, is bowing down to them - also the hypocritical hippocratic oath swears allegiance to Greek gods)

20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love [and obey] Me, and KEEP My Commandments.

(We are COMMANDED not to allow a witch/pharmacist to live, to prevent us from being poisoned by them - Exod. 22:18; Deut. 18:9-13)

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the "I AM" thy God in vain (use it when not talking to Him, or about Him); for the "I AM" will not hold [him] guiltless that taketh His name in vain [and thus wasteth His time or insulteth Him].

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20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. [It is NOT wrong to do GOOD deeds on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made for man. Man was not made for the Sabbath.]
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day [is] the Sabbath of the "I AM" thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:
20:11 For [in] six days the "I AM" made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the "I AM" blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
(And yet doctors and hospitals work every Sabbath day administering their poisons against God's Will and Commandment)

20:12 Honour thy Father and thy mother (Israel): that thy days may be long upon the land which the "I AM" thy God giveth thee.
(God is our Father - see: Matt. 6:9-13; 23:9, and it should be self-evident that breaking His Commandments is not honouring Him)

20:13 Thou shalt not murder (kill un-Lawfully).
(More people have been murdered by the medical-chemical-pharmaceutical industrial complex than by all of the wars that have ever been fought)

20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery [neither personally, nor nationally].
(Virtually every nation on Earth just gave over the sovereign rights and freedoms of their citizens to the magic virus scam and its medical tyranny, that not only locked people in their homes against their will, but bankrupted and closed many private businesses, which is certainly a form of national idolatry)

20:15 Thou shalt not steal [nor make up thine own laws to enable thee to do so by fraud (deceiving people)].
(The "legalization" of murder via pharmaceutical drugs, chemotherapy, radiation and vaccine, and granting pharmaceutical companies immunity from being held responsible for the injuries and deaths they cause, while charging people outrageous sums to be poisoned are all forms of theft)

20:16 Thou shalt not tell lies [not even to thy "Self", neither to, nor] against thy neighbour.
(How many lies have we been told just about the magic virus (coronavirus) scam, to con people into taking their lethal injection?)

20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.
(The multi-trillion dollar medical-chemical-pharmaceutical industries have not only coveted but stolen the possessions of billions, sometimes wiping out the life-savings of families to pay for their satanic procedures which have never saved anyone - how could poisoning people to ensure they remain lifelong paying customers be any more covetous or deceitful?)

PHARMACY/SORCERY/WITCHCRAFT BREAKS ALL OF THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, MURDERING MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN AND INFANTS (BORN AND UNBORN) EVERY DAY
The real 10 commandments, without the walls of text.

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A born again Christian who is able to think independently should be able to reach conclusions [and therefore what is permitted for them in their circumstance/s] all by themself.

"Thou shalt not kill" - therefore no medical treatment -including medicines - should be withheld if it is available.

I think someone mentioned that what Anthony John Hill says about medicine is as non-biblical as Jehovah's Witnesses refusing to allow JWs to have life saving blood transfusions. I agree 100% with them.
 
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Well…

The verses at the end of Mark 16 read:

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

What is not evident is the intention (as common sense is assumed)… The taking up of serpents or the drinking of deadly things is not encouraged in scripture. Looking at the wider context makes things clear.

Acts 28:3-6
3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.
3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.
4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.
5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.
6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

Why the sudden Bible study on snakes?

The disciples were told to pray for the sick. They were not told to casually pick up rattlesnakes or drink strychnine.

Because [and this is the point] by focussing on minutiae and deliberately excluding common sense and wider context, you can turn a redneck into a dead redneck really quickly!!!
Sorry if this is off topic but what is the deal with speaking in tongues? I saw a lady do it on YouTube and it was frightening like she was possessed or having an epileptic attack or just suffering from some kind of mental illness.
 

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Sorry if this is off topic but what is the deal with speaking in tongues? I saw a lady do it on YouTube and it was frightening like she was possessed or having an epileptic attack or just suffering from some kind of mental illness.
I don't mind if things go slightly off topic for things like tongues [as long as it generally stays related to the thread], because it can be argued from a worldly point of view that it might be medical or psychological in nature.... basically I am trying to stop the thread from becoming a variation of other religious THEOLOGICAL beliefs versus Christianity that usually occurs if the brakes aren't hit immediately.
I hope people don't mind if I come across as blunt about that!
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Do you remember where she was, a general church or a special meeting? There are some controversial evangelists and churches where weird stuff happens unfortunately.
 

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From: http://entityart.co.uk/the-germ-theory-deception-viruses-5g-agenda-vaccines-louis-pasteur-bechamp-terrain-theory-coronavirus/ -

Introduction:

Have you ever questioned Germ Theory?


Our whole society is based on it. The whole medical profession is based on it. It is why they give us vaccines. Do you think it is probably something we should look into? Do you even know the alternatives to Germ Theory?


Did you know Louis Pasteur, the man who came up with Germ Theory, said that he was wrong at the end of his life? (More information on that later)


Did you know that there have been studies / experiments carried out that showed you cannot catch influenza, and various other viruses, from someone else?


Did you know that there are many Doctors, scientists, researchers and nutritionists that do not agree with Germ Theory?


Doctors, scientists, researchers and nutritionists that say you cannot catch a virus and that a virus is made by your own body to cleanse you of toxicity.


Does all the toxicity and chemicals that we are in contact with on this planet have an effect on us? (e.g chemtrails, chemicals in tap water, ‘health’ products, cleaning products, industrial pollution, processed food, hygiene products, weed killers, insecticides, vaccines etc etc)


Is Germ Theory also related to the 5G roll out? Is 5G bad for us?


Not many hear about all this below, as if this Germ Theory collapses it would change everything. The massive Pharmaceuticals would lose many Billions or Trillions of pounds, even perhaps go out of business, and nobody would consent to the poisonous vaccines that our governments are always trying to give us.


Has Germ Theory been one of the biggest ever deceptions?


Some quotes to begin with – from some Doctors and a Nutritionist:


“In all that I have witnessed inside and outside of laboratories, there is only one cause of disease: Industrial pollution in medication, food, air, soil and water. Strengthening a body’s constitution and lymphatic system is the first step to reversing/curing disease” – Aajonus Vonderplantiz


“…Viruses are simply the excretions of a toxic cell. Viruses are pieces of DNA or RNA, with a few other proteins. They butt out from the cell. They happen when the cell is poisoned. They are not the cause of anything.” – Thomas Cowan MD on Rudolf Steiner’s insights (I do not necessarily endorse what Steiner says about other topics, but this quote is a good summation of viruses)

“You’re working under a wrong premise to begin with and you’re never going to find the answer if you do that. Viruses have no nucleus. There’s no respiratory system. There’s no circulatory system. There’s no digestive system. Viruses are not alive. That’s like saying soap is alive. They’re not alive. They are solvents. They are soaps. However, more accurately, they are enzymes to fractionate tissue for waste elimination.” – Aajonus Vonderplanitz
 

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Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not murder (kill un-Lawfully).

In many translations, Exodus 20:13 (and Deuteronomy 5:17) have very obviously been wrongly translated as "thou shalt not kill".

There are numerous capital crimes listed in The Law (murder being one of them) that require the death penalty be LAWFULLY carried out, as anyone who has truly been born again from above (of God) should know.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
 

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From: http://entityart.co.uk/the-germ-theory-deception-viruses-5g-agenda-vaccines-louis-pasteur-bechamp-terrain-theory-coronavirus/ -

Introduction:

Have you ever questioned Germ Theory?


Our whole society is based on it. The whole medical profession is based on it. It is why they give us vaccines. Do you think it is probably something we should look into? Do you even know the alternatives to Germ Theory?


Did you know Louis Pasteur, the man who came up with Germ Theory, said that he was wrong at the end of his life? (More information on that later)


Did you know that there have been studies / experiments carried out that showed you cannot catch influenza, and various other viruses, from someone else?


Did you know that there are many Doctors, scientists, researchers and nutritionists that do not agree with Germ Theory?


Doctors, scientists, researchers and nutritionists that say you cannot catch a virus and that a virus is made by your own body to cleanse you of toxicity.


Does all the toxicity and chemicals that we are in contact with on this planet have an effect on us? (e.g chemtrails, chemicals in tap water, ‘health’ products, cleaning products, industrial pollution, processed food, hygiene products, weed killers, insecticides, vaccines etc etc)


Is Germ Theory also related to the 5G roll out? Is 5G bad for us?


Not many hear about all this below, as if this Germ Theory collapses it would change everything. The massive Pharmaceuticals would lose many Billions or Trillions of pounds, even perhaps go out of business, and nobody would consent to the poisonous vaccines that our governments are always trying to give us.


Has Germ Theory been one of the biggest ever deceptions?


Some quotes to begin with – from some Doctors and a Nutritionist:


“In all that I have witnessed inside and outside of laboratories, there is only one cause of disease: Industrial pollution in medication, food, air, soil and water. Strengthening a body’s constitution and lymphatic system is the first step to reversing/curing disease” – Aajonus Vonderplantiz


“…Viruses are simply the excretions of a toxic cell. Viruses are pieces of DNA or RNA, with a few other proteins. They butt out from the cell. They happen when the cell is poisoned. They are not the cause of anything.” – Thomas Cowan MD on Rudolf Steiner’s insights (I do not necessarily endorse what Steiner says about other topics, but this quote is a good summation of viruses)

“You’re working under a wrong premise to begin with and you’re never going to find the answer if you do that. Viruses have no nucleus. There’s no respiratory system. There’s no circulatory system. There’s no digestive system. Viruses are not alive. That’s like saying soap is alive. They’re not alive. They are solvents. They are soaps. However, more accurately, they are enzymes to fractionate tissue for waste elimination.” – Aajonus Vonderplanitz
Did you look up the biographies of those men before you posted that quote?

Louis Pasteur was wrong at the end of his life.
Modern science has proven there most definitely are germs and bacteria.

P.S. I just looked at the entity art website.
Surely you are just trolling me now.

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More from: http://entityart.co.uk/the-germ-theory-deception-viruses-5g-agenda-vaccines-louis-pasteur-bechamp-terrain-theory-coronavirus/ -

“We agree with those members of the profession who hold that no germ causes tuberculosis. Germs do not cause any disease. Further, we agree that there is more harm in the fear of germs than there is in the germs themselves.” — Timely Truths on Human Health – Simon Louis Katzoff, M.D. 1921


“The entire fabric of the germ theory of disease rests upon assumptions which not only have not been proved, but which are incapable of proof, and many of them can be proved to be the reverse of truth. The basic one of the unproven assumptions, wholly due to Pasteur, is the hypothesis that all the so-called infections and contagious disorders are caused by germs.” – M.L. Leverson, M.D


“We said before that so-called “germs” are ubiquitous. They are ever present, in many varying forms in both healthy and sick people. These microbes kick into what modern scientists call ‘pathogens’, when the media is toxic and conducive to clean up. When you enter into a healing crisis, and your body is throwing off toxins, these “germs” appear out of your very substance, to help eliminate, process and break down these toxins. Germs have absolutely no causal relationship to disease. But germs do appear to help you clean out, because put quite simply, your disease is your cure!” – Dr. William P. Trebing – Good-Bye Germ Theory – P.154


The bright garish image on the title picture is not what a ‘virus’ looks like. These brightly coloured complex images you see on the internet or MSM are made up CGI images. This image below is showing you what ‘viruses’ look like under an electron microscope:

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HIV, Hepatitis B, Measles – Images from https://www.newmedicineonline.com/viruses/

“What is it that they see under an electron microscope?


Since a virus has never been visualized under an electron microscope a methodology had to be devised in order to “extract” substances which were supposedly the result of viral activity.

Let’s use the example of Polio which was supposedly the first virus identified and then photographed under an electron microscope. What we are shown are in fact “artificial particles” which involves the complex process of suctioning an indifferent mass through a very fine filter into a vacuum which is then photographed. It is not something that is actually seen in the blood or in a tissue sample!

This form of research is highly contaminated and yet it is accepted and published in the scientific community. The question is why? Is there an agenda?” – https://www.gnmonlineseminars.com/covid-19-part-i/

(The criteria needed to identify a virus are discussed in later sections. There is also a link in the Additional Resource Section to an article about how useless the PCR tests are.)
 

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Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not murder (kill un-Lawfully).

In many translations, Exodus 20:13 (and Deuteronomy 5:17) have very obviously been wrongly translated as "thou shalt not kill".

There are numerous capital crimes listed in The Law (murder being one of them) that require the death penalty be LAWFULLY carried out, as anyone who has truly been born again from above (of God) should know.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
And what has that got to do with the sorcery versus pharmaceuticals thread?

P.S. Thanks for showing me the entity art website. I decided to remove the link because most people would be too lazy to search for it.
It looks hilarious, even though it is clearly pro-everything anti-biblical Christianity.
If you believe that website's content, it is very easy to see why you fell for AJH.
 
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Pharmaceutical Industry is the Leading Cause of Death in U.S., and the Largest Criminal Group in the World

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Those of us who have been covering the dark side of the medical industry for the past decade or so are fully aware that the medical system kills more people in the U.S. than any disease, using the medical system’s own data.

This is seldom, if ever, published in the corporate media which is largely funded by the pharmaceutical industry today.

The other fact that is well-known to most of us in the alternative media is that the pharmaceutical industry leads the U.S. in criminal fraud.

According to the Department of Justice (DOJ) website, the pharmaceutical industry is the largest offender of criminal fraud based on settlements and judgments for the False Claims Act.

From 2009 through 2016, Health Care Fraud resulted in $19.3 billion for fraud, with “billions more during the same period for state Medicaid programs and in criminal fines and forfeitures.” (Source.)

Housing and Financial Fraud was a distant second during the same time period, at $7 billion.

In 2017, according to the DOJ:

Of the $3.7 billion in settlements and judgments, $2.4 billion involved the health care industry, including drug companies, hospitals, pharmacies, laboratories, and physicians. This is the eighth consecutive year that the department’s civil health care fraud settlements and judgments have exceeded $2 billion.
In 2018, settlements and judgments for fraud against the health care industry again exceeded $2 billion according to the DOJ:

Of the $2.8 billion in settlements and judgments recovered by the Department of Justice this past fiscal year, $2.5 billion involved the health care industry, including drug and medical device manufacturers, managed care providers, hospitals, pharmacies, hospice organizations, laboratories, and physicians.
This is the ninth consecutive year that the Department’s civil health care fraud settlements and judgments have exceeded $2 billion. The recoveries included in the $2.5 billion reflect only federal losses but, in many of these cases, the Department was instrumental in recovering additional millions of dollars for state Medicaid programs.
Richard Smith, editor of the British Medical Journal until 2004, wrote an opinion piece in 2013 about a book published by Peter Gøtzsche, the head of the Nordic Cochrane Centre, entitled “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare.”

The characteristics of organised crime, racketeering, is defined in US law as the act of engaging repeatedly in certain types of offence, including extortion, fraud, federal drug offences, bribery, embezzlement, obstruction of justice, obstruction of law enforcement, tampering with witnesses, and political corruption. Peter produces evidence, most of it detailed, to support his case that pharmaceutical companies are guilty of most of these offences. (Source.)
The “largest fraud settlement in U.S. history” was against a pharmaceutical company:

On July 2, 2012 the British drug maker GlaxoSmithKline pled guilty to three counts of criminal misdemeanor and other civil liabilities relating to the prescription drugs Paxil, Wellbutrin and Avandia, and agreed to pay a total of $3 billion in fines–$1 billion to settle criminal charges, and $2 billion to cover civil liabilities.
The payment is the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history, and the largest fine ever paid by a drug company. (Source.)
And these are the people we are being asked to trust to provide a COVID-19 cure with a new vaccine, when there is not convincing evidence that we even have an accurate test that can identify this “new” coronavirus.

Investigative reporter Jon Rappoport reminds us just how deadly medicine actually is.
 

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Who pushes the Idea of an epidemic; what are their crimes?

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“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” –Marcia Angell, MD (“Drug Companies and Doctors: A story of Corruption.” NY Review of Books, Jan. 15, 2009.)

With my coverage of the so-called pandemic, we are seeing many new readers showing up and paying attention. So I want to expose a few facts about the modern medical system—facts I’ve presented many times over the past 10 years.

I do this because of a little thing called REPUTATION. If the track record of major medical officials were really understood, people would ignore their current pronouncements with barely a glance. Pronouncements like: THE VIRUS IS SPREADING; THIS IS A MAJOR EPIDEMIC; WE’RE TESTING A NEW PROTECTIVE VACCINE AND EVERYONE MUST TAKE IT.

I also expose facts because MEDICALLY CAUSED DEATH is routinely swept under the carpet by the mainstream press. Actually, as a result of media silence, the subject of medical harm is where the subject of grossly poisoned food was in the 19th and early 20th centuries. At that time, giant food processors had created their own Wild West, where they could sell lethal poison (eat, fall down dead) hidden in products. The press helped expose these crimes and transfix the public, which led to partial reforms. Now, in the medical arena, the press is a partner in capital crimes.

Major medical officials have been sitting on a time bomb. The range of medical maiming and killing is astonishing.

Imagine a Congressional hearing held before media cameras, with reporters all over the world ready with shocking facts about one of the leading causes of death—

SENATOR: Sir, I have the mainstream medical death numbers in front of me. How can you keep this secret from the public?

FDA COMMISSIONER: It’s not a secret, sir. Many experts know about it.

SENATOR: I’m looking through the trillion-dollar federal budget. I’m looking for the money allocated to fix this horrible situation. Where are those funds?

FDA COMMISSIONER: Nowhere. Don’t blame us.

SENATOR: Why not?

FDA COMMISSIONER: Because we can never be dismantled. We’re eternal. God created the FDA. God created the CDC.


I know major media won’t investigate medically-caused death numbers, because I’ve published reports for years, and I’ve contacted news people with the facts; and nothing happens.


So we begin with a few citations.

July 26, 2000, Journal of the American Medical Association; author, Dr. Barbara Starfield, revered public health expert at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health; “Is US health really the best in the world?”

Starfield reported that the US medical system kills 225,000 Americans a year. 106,000 as a result of FDA-approved medical drugs, and 119,000 as a result of mistreatment and errors in hospitals. Extrapolate the numbers to a decade: that’s 2.25 million deaths. You might want to read that last number again.

I interviewed Starfield in 2009. I asked her whether she was aware of any overall effort by the US government to eliminate this holocaust, and whether she had ever been contacted by any government agency to consult on such an effort. She answered a resounding NO to both questions. She also said her estimate of medically caused deaths in America was on the conservative side.

Here is another citation: BMJ June 7, 2012 (BMJ 2012:344:e3989). Author, Jeanne Lenzer. Lenzer refers to a report by the Institute for Safe Medication Practices: “It [the Institute] calculated that in 2011 prescription drugs were associated with two to four million people in the US experiencing ‘serious, disabling, or fatal injuries, including 128,000 deaths.’”

The report called this “one of the most significant perils to humans resulting from human activity.”

The report was compiled by outside researchers who went into the FDA’s own database of “serious adverse [medical-drug] events.”

Therefore, to say the FDA isn’t aware of this finding would be absurd. The FDA knows. The FDA knows and it isn’t saying anything about it, because the FDA certifies, as safe and effective, all the medical drugs that are routinely maiming and killing Americans. Every public health agency knows the truth.

Here is another citation: The article is, “The Epidemic of Sickness and Death from Prescription Drugs.” The author is Donald Light, who teaches at Rowan University, and was the 2013 recipient of ASA’s [American Sociological Association’s] Distinguished Career Award for the Practice of Sociology. Light is a founding fellow of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania. In 2013, he was a fellow at the Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics at Harvard. He is a Lokey Visiting Professor at Stanford University.

Donald Light: “Epidemiologically, appropriately prescribed, prescription drugs are the fourth leading cause of death, tied with stroke at about 2,460 deaths each week in the United States. About 330,000 patients die each year from prescription drugs in the United States and Europe. They [the drugs] cause an epidemic of about 20 times more hospitalizations [6.6 million annually], as well as falls, road accidents, and [annually] about 80 million medically minor problems such as pains, discomforts, and dysfunctions that hobble productivity or the ability to care for others. Deaths and adverse effects from overmedication, errors, and self-medication would increase these figures.” (ASA publication, “Footnotes,” November 2014)

—Another study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association on April 15, 1998: “Incidence of Adverse Drug Reactions in Hospitalized Patients.” It, too, is mind-boggling.
 

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Pharmaceutical Industry is the Leading Cause of Death in U.S., and the Largest Criminal Group in the World

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Comments by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News


Those of us who have been covering the dark side of the medical industry for the past decade or so are fully aware that the medical system kills more people in the U.S. than any disease, using the medical system’s own data.

This is seldom, if ever, published in the corporate media which is largely funded by the pharmaceutical industry today.

The other fact that is well-known to most of us in the alternative media is that the pharmaceutical industry leads the U.S. in criminal fraud.

According to the Department of Justice (DOJ) website, the pharmaceutical industry is the largest offender of criminal fraud based on settlements and judgments for the False Claims Act.

From 2009 through 2016, Health Care Fraud resulted in $19.3 billion for fraud, with “billions more during the same period for state Medicaid programs and in criminal fines and forfeitures.” (Source.)

Housing and Financial Fraud was a distant second during the same time period, at $7 billion.

In 2017, according to the DOJ:



In 2018, settlements and judgments for fraud against the health care industry again exceeded $2 billion according to the DOJ:



Richard Smith, editor of the British Medical Journal until 2004, wrote an opinion piece in 2013 about a book published by Peter Gøtzsche, the head of the Nordic Cochrane Centre, entitled “Deadly Medicines and Organised Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare.”



The “largest fraud settlement in U.S. history” was against a pharmaceutical company:




And these are the people we are being asked to trust to provide a COVID-19 cure with a new vaccine, when there is not convincing evidence that we even have an accurate test that can identify this “new” coronavirus.

Investigative reporter Jon Rappoport reminds us just how deadly medicine actually is.
Vaccines, COVID and everything related is a different topic to whether medicines are sorcery.
Why don't you start vaccines as a separate topic?
 

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The authors, led by Jason Lazarou, culled 39 previous studies on patients in hospitals. These patients, who received drugs in hospitals, or were admitted to hospitals because they were suffering from the drugs doctors had given them, met the following fate:

Every year, in the US, between 76,000 and 137,000 hospitalized patients die as a direct result of the drugs.

Beyond that, every year 2.2 million hospitalized patients experience serious adverse reactions to the drugs.

The authors write: “…Our study on ADRs [Adverse Drug Reactions], which excludes medication errors, had a different objective: to show that there are a large number of ADRs even when the drugs are properly prescribed and administered.”

So this study had nothing to do with doctor errors, nurse errors, or improper combining of drugs. And it only counted people killed who were admitted to hospitals. It didn’t begin to tally all the people taking pharmaceuticals who died as consequence of the drugs, without being admitted to hospitals. (Note: none of the studies and reviews I’m citing in this article include damage and death as a result of vaccines.)

The statistics I’m quoting reveal a human problem on the level of a tsunami sweeping across the whole of America and Europe.

Why won’t major media outlets report these facts and pound on their significance?

The obvious reason: their big-spending pharmaceutical advertisers would drop them like hot potatoes.

But there are other reasons.

Every medical bureaucrat or medical shill or medical expert who jumps aboard the media train, to assure the public that drugs and vaccines are remarkably safe, is sitting on the time bomb I have described above.

If this bomb were widely recognized, who would continue to believe these professional pundits? Who would accept anything they say? How could they possibly sustain their credibility?

“Well, the system I represent kills 2.25 million people per decade, and maims between 20 and 40 million more people per decade, but I want to assure you this vaccine presents no problems at all. It’s incredibly safe.”
 

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Sorry if this is off topic but what is the deal with speaking in tongues? I saw a lady do it on YouTube and it was frightening like she was possessed or having an epileptic attack or just suffering from some kind of mental illness.
Rather like Pharmacy, there are some very bad examples of it out there! Some good Christians are cessationists (meaning the gifts of the Spirit ceased to be exercised after the early church), others are (myself included) are “Continuationists” who take the alternate view.

I have seen more than enough evidence of the supernatural power of God, including healings seen first hand. On the other hand, with tongues in particular I have seen (and cringed through) many examples where people fake it.
 
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