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redqueen

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looks like India and China have sent
troops to Russia for war games is the
reason being said,I'm thinking it's a Good
cover to bring in reinforcements

thats not that great of a thought eh russia,china,
india all coming together would change the
feel of this "war"



 

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Some are speculating that Putin is gonna escalate this ukraine thingy from "spedial military operation" to WW3.
Short explanation-
Some parts of ukraine had referendum where people "voted" to join russia.And in some of those parts ukraine have been conquering back their land that now from russias perspective is an invasion to their territory (lol) . Gotta get that "Casus Belli" somehow...
And russia will defend their "Territorial whole" with nukes as they like to threaten.Some rumors going around that Putin gonna declare mobilisation and martial law any moment now.

Since China and India are in BRICS then they gotta join in if one of them gets attacked.For russia it aint hard to portray it so that the USA is having a proxy war against them because thats whats kinda is happening.
 

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looks like India and China have sent
troops to Russia for war games is the
reason being said,I'm thinking it's a Good
cover to bring in reinforcements

thats not that great of a thought eh russia,china,
india all coming together would change the
feel of this "war"



"I'm thinking it's a Good cover to bring in reinforcements"
The strategic mind of a warrior queen! I agree, there is something more below the surface of these war games. I also really agree with your last statement as well.
 

TempestOfTempo

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Some are speculating that Putin is gonna escalate this ukraine thingy from "spedial military operation" to WW3.
Short explanation-
Some parts of ukraine had referendum where people "voted" to join russia.And in some of those parts ukraine have been conquering back their land that now from russias perspective is an invasion to their territory (lol) . Gotta get that "Casus Belli" somehow...
And russia will defend their "Territorial whole" with nukes as they like to threaten.Some rumors going around that Putin gonna declare mobilisation and martial law any moment now.

Since China and India are in BRICS then they gotta join in if one of them gets attacked.For russia it aint hard to portray it so that the USA is having a proxy war against them because thats whats kinda is happening.
It seems unlikely that Putin would actually, formally, order a nuclear attack on Ukrainian forces/territory eh? But there are all kinds of dirty ways to play this dirty game.... all he needs is the thinnest of veneers provided by their faulty plausible deniability.
 

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....and it's over to you Johnny


The world will end by the hands of psychotic men, not by God. My reasoning being that if no man had ever read a bible then there wouldn't be any prophecies to be fulfilled.

And there endeth this short secular sermon.
 
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Russia


0:24.
24/7 Twitch stream from Russia shows Europeans a gas stove turned on. Included in the stream is the cost of the pleasure, 1.44 euros per month.
 

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RUSSIA IS AN ABOMINATION -- PUBLIC KIDS SACRIFICES
Russia openly ruled by NWO Russia is Hellhole -- public kids sacrifices, public mass ritual murders, openly p***philia, openly hunt for kids, openly sell adrenochrome and human meat.
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Pink Floyd founder cancels Poland concerts after war remarks


Waters wrote an open letter to Ukrainian first lady Olena Zelenska early this month in which he blamed “extreme nationalists” in Ukraine for having “set your country on the path to this disastrous war.” He also criticized the West for supplying Ukraine with weapons, blaming Washington in particular.
Waters has also criticized NATO, accusing it of provoking Russia.
 

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Russian pipelines to germany in the baltic sea are leaking ,3 out of 4 of them. There have been reports of explosions. Not sure what is going on ,if someone sabotaged it or russians just pumped up the pressure over critical limit on purpose to blow the pipelines . Those pipelines are the spine of germans energy and industry . No planes or ships are allowed to the region.Putin might use it as an excuse to bring more of his navy to the baltic sea to "protect the pipeline" (or prepare for WW2).
"Seismic stations in Sweden, Norway and Finland registered two explosions Monday near the leaks. "
 

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Russian pipelines to germany in the baltic sea are leaking ,3 out of 4 of them. There have been reports of explosions. Not sure what is going on ,if someone sabotaged it or russians just pumped up the pressure over critical limit on purpose to blow the pipelines . Those pipelines are the spine of germans energy and industry . No planes or ships are allowed to the region.Putin might use it as an excuse to bring more of his navy to the baltic sea to "protect the pipeline" (or prepare for WW2).
"Seismic stations in Sweden, Norway and Finland registered two explosions Monday near the leaks. "
Dang didn't realize they had time travel tech....back to ww2 u don't say ;)
 

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Russian pipelines to germany in the baltic sea are leaking ,3 out of 4 of them. There have been reports of explosions. Not sure what is going on ,if someone sabotaged it or russians just pumped up the pressure over critical limit on purpose to blow the pipelines . Those pipelines are the spine of germans energy and industry . No planes or ships are allowed to the region.Putin might use it as an excuse to bring more of his navy to the baltic sea to "protect the pipeline" (or prepare for WW2).
"Seismic stations in Sweden, Norway and Finland registered two explosions Monday near the leaks. "
Wow I didn't know their was another pipeline inaugurated at the same time the NS is being sabotaged. From the ABC article:

"Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki called the events “an act of sabotage," while Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said she could not rule it out. During a ceremony near Goleniow, in northwestern Poland, they and Polish President Andrzej Duda symbolically opened the valve of a yellow pipe belonging to the Baltic Pipe, a new system sending Norwegian gas across Denmark and the Baltic Sea to Poland."

What do people make of the referendum vote in the 4 (former haha) Ukrainian provinces? RT is reporting 99% voted to join Russia. I don't think it changes much of the current military positions but long term this will increase the potential for heightened conflict. I'm happy for the Donbass but frustrated it will only encourage further militarism, possibly direct attacks from the UNSC/NATO.
 

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What do people make of the referendum vote in the 4 (former haha) Ukrainian provinces? RT is reporting 99% voted to join Russia.
I guess one purpose for this "referendum" is to change the narrative for russians. Nobody wants to be the bad guy and the agressor so now Putin can cry that Russian territory is under attack by Ukraine and NATO and act accordingly. Pretend its a defensive war instead of offensive one.
Moral is low on russian side,benefits and pay for fighting are pretty much non-existant and purpose/cause of the war is questionable. They dont even get tax exemption while fighting. Equipment sucks and most soldiers lack training and experience.
Because of "Dedovshchina" russians in military get to hold and shoot a loaded gun for once or twice during their whole service. Otherwise they would kill each other or kill themselves which has happened there loads of times.
 

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I guess one purpose for this "referendum" is to change the narrative for russians. Nobody wants to be the bad guy and the agressor so now Putin can cry that Russian territory is under attack by Ukraine and NATO and act accordingly. Pretend its a defensive war instead of offensive one.
Moral is low on russian side,benefits and pay for fighting are pretty much non-existant and purpose/cause of the war is questionable. They dont even get tax exemption while fighting. Equipment sucks and most soldiers lack training and experience.
Because of "Dedovshchina" russians in military get to hold and shoot a loaded gun for once or twice during their whole service. Otherwise they would kill each other or kill themselves which has happened there loads of times.
I'm much more critical of the US, British, and NATO role in all of this. The predominantly Russian speakers of the Donbass states have been at war with their own government, specifically Nazi battalions, since the Western backed coup in 2014. Russia claims to have begged for the Minsk agreements to be kept- which were not only ignored but shelling increased right up to the invasion in February. As has been said many times, what if Russia were running military exercises along the US border, encouraging Mexico to acquire nuclear weapons?

The US establishment has everything to gain by destabilizing Russia's relationship with the EU, including ending the NS2 project that Germany spent billions on. Look at the RAND CO. papers imagining how Ukraine could be used to lure Russia and knock them off balance. The wicked Pentagon is using Ukraine to fight a proxy war without a care for the Ukrainian people. IMO this charade has everything to do with Russiagate and the perpetual demonizing of Russia in the West- Russian meddling, hacking, authoritarianism, etc. There are powers in the West who are rabid for war with Russia (and China too).

I personally respect the original premise of the UN: for world governments to speak and peacefully solve conflicts. Under international law not every state has the freedom to secede from their mother country but in the case of SE Ukraine their should absolutely be consideration based on the circumstances.
 
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