Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[Fujiko]

Sorry to say this, but I'm glad that his album didn't turn out to be a hit after doing so much. And especially, I'm glad it didn't work out for him to use Jonghyun this time. But again sorry to say this.

Agree 100%

 

[Fujiko]

The Japanese idols don't have to be picture perfect or look like an anime character. Why do kpop fans expect perfect vocals, dancing, visuals and a pristine virgin until they're 45? It's more about the persona and having fun than the music, or could be but fans take it very seriously. The fact idols are competing against real musicians and singers on the charts is mind blowing.

Taem1n is an artist and K3y is an idol. One has mastered his craft and brings a level of artistry to every concert that makes others study him, even outside of his genre. The other is a very good singer and dancer but is a manufactured act. It's why Taemin chafed in Superm and resented being pushed into another manufactured group, after several years of making his own music and being taken seriously by the industry.

I'm not trying to put K3y down. He's very talented, even at debut he was one of the best in his group. His talents at dancing, singing, fashion and variety shows makes him very well rounded. However, he's not at the level of his maknae when it comes to worldwide recognition and being able to breakout of the idol mold. One is a kpop artist and the other is a kpop idol. SHINe3 members have said they are a manufactured group.

I agree with you well done analysys,and i have seen the performance with J3no,and Jeno outshined him,there is a part where i am not able to focus on Key,the scene is on J3no.
I don't think if was Taemin at Key place Jeno would outshined him

 

[Fujiko]

I hope that Shinee diband,they are disrepecting Jjong memory,they only use him to fame,popularity,promotion,this is disgusting

 

[OrinaCano]

I hope that Shinee diband,they are disrepecting Jjong memory,they only use him to fame,popularity,promotion,this is disgusting

I totally agree with you on this and I wholeheartedly wish that SHINee gets disbanded soon. Besides, using Jonghyun is indeed disgusting.

 

[arhur12]

Key is not famous in India, BTS is more famous in India. Besides, Indian fans love BTS more than any other group/artist.

Notably, the popularity of BTS in India has grown tremendously since their first Indian interview last year. Even, Indian fans are eagerly waiting for BTS first concert in India.

What I meant was most of K3y's solo fans live in India. It doesn't mean he is the most famous idol I India just that his music is more listened in the SEA countries and India compared to US. It is based on YouTube music charts

YouTube Music Charts

Top Songs, Artists, Videos on YouTube.

charts.youtube.com

For example in Sh1nee's chart here SK and Japan are listed as top countries from where they receive views on their MVs. It means Sh1nee's fanbase is concentrated in these countries. I checked the artist profile for K3y during Gasoline era and most of rhe views for Gasoline came from SEA and India.

 

[arhur12]

I totally agree with you on this and I wholeheartedly wish that SHINee gets disbanded soon. Besides, using Jonghyun is indeed disgusting.

If they want to continue doing music they can do it as soloists but continuing as a group just to milk Jonghyun's memory when they don't care about him is wrong.

 

[arhur12]

Sorry to say this, but I'm glad that his album didn't turn out to be a hit after doing so much. And especially, I'm glad it didn't work out for him to use Jonghyun this time. But again sorry to say this.

Agree I don't feel bad for him at all. I watched behind the scenes of Gasoline and he joked that he shouldn't portray himself as god because he goes to church. In another clip someone told him he looks like the Satan with horns and he replied that he wants to look like Satan. It means he knew what he was doing and we cannot make any excuse for him.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Yes, it could be a possibility or a sign that SHINee will be disbanded soon. Also, now people are not as interested in them as before when Jonghyun was part of their group. Even their songs are not as good as they were before and they are losing their charm too.

Besides, SHINee's activities as a group of four members is not as much as they were when Jonghyun was part of them. They are just busy with their own activities and their own work. They were all so lively, wonderful, energetic and funny before Jonghyun left that people loved watching them, especially people really enjoyed listening to their songs. They were so good as a group. But after Jonghyun left, they are simply lost and without him they are nothing.

No, things aren't the same. I'm a new shawol and there's a difference in energy when Jjong was here and when he left. Jjong pulled the members together and they looked like a family. They were always coworkers, but now it's really obvious.

Fans have this belief that younger members are protected and cared for by the other young members, and they're a family. They care for them and keep after them for behavior because if they don't, that's going to get them punished or blamed. In the beginning, it's possible SHINe3 were close, but jjong's death pulled them further apart. 0new was already rumored to be leaving, K3y too. His death took everything with Jjong. They're very talented men, but it's time they let go.

 

[Strawberrypie]

If they want to continue doing music they can do it as soloists but continuing as a group just to milk Jonghyun's memory when they don't care about him is wrong.

It's very disgusting now that I'm aware of it. Groups sometimes use the maknae for views and to stay popular. That's evident in groups like btees, but some have a more popular hyung line like t×t, exo, and enpipen.

 

[Fujiko]

No, things aren't the same. I'm a new shawol and there's a difference in energy when Jjong was here and when he left. Jjong pulled the members together and they looked like a family. They were always coworkers, but now it's really obvious.

Fans have this belief that younger members are protected and cared for by the other young members, and they're a family. They care for them and keep after them for behavior because if they don't, that's going to get them punished or blamed. In the beginning, it's possible SHINe3 were close, but jjong's death pulled them further apart. 0new was already rumored to be leaving, K3y too. His death took everything with Jjong. They're very talented men, but it's time they let go.

Agree,with Jjong they were united like a family,now they seems only musical partners.Jjong was able to bring positive vibe ,he was like a leader,main vocal,he really gave a big contribution to Sh1nee.
Now that he is gone,and Taemin is in these conditions it is time to disband.

 

[OrinaCano]

Agree I don't feel bad for him at all. I watched behind the scenes of Gasoline and he joked that he shouldn't portray himself as god because he goes to church. In another clip someone told him he looks like the Satan with horns and he replied that he wants to look like Satan. It means he knew what he was doing and we cannot make any excuse for him.

I too don't feel bad for him at all and that's what he deserves, lol.

I said sorry before saying that just because a few days ago someone had objected to saying something like that, so that's why I said sorry. Other than that, I don't have any hard feelings for him.

I didn't see his music video and nor did I see the behind-the-scenes footage, so I do not know about it. But on the one hand if he said and joked that he shouldn't portray himself as god because he goes to church and on the other hand if he wanted to look like satan, then it is really disgusting. I don't know what else to say about it, but I feel disgusted right now.

 

[OrinaCano]

If they want to continue doing music they can do it as soloists but continuing as a group just to milk Jonghyun's memory when they don't care about him is wrong.

Exactly right.

They never cared for Jonghyun and he is only a "promotional material" for them, nothing more than that, and it's damn disgusting.

Members remember and mention Jonghyun only when he is part of their schedule and when they have to use him to make themselves famous. Besides, they didn't forget to name Jonghyun whenever they wanted to promote themselves and especially to make their album a hit.

But when members should remember Jonghyun and mention his name, they forget to do so, just as they forgot to mention Jonghyun on the group's 14th debut anniversary.

And when I said this on a fanpage that members should have named Jonghyun on their 14th anniversary day because they are 5 and Jonghyun is still an important part of their group.

So some idiots told me that I should not forget about how suicide/death is seen in South Korea, and I should don't forget how he left this world and SHINee was subtile, very subtile, they didn't say his name but his songs.

But when I said that "Yeah, I know SHINee was subtile and I know very well that how death is seen in South Korea, but just because he left that doesn't mean Jonghyun's name wasn't worth mentioning on the day of their anniversary celebration. He should be remembered and celebrated anyway because they are 5. Besides, I don't think there was any problem with Jonghyun's name being mentioned and he deserves to be remembered and mentioned on their special anniversary day, especially he deserves to be remembered and mentioned by his members on their most special day".

Later my comments were deleted and it was said that I was disrespectful and I insulted the members by saying so, so my comments had to be deleted, which I did not do.

And when I asked about it that "you deleted my comments because my comments were disrespectful towards SHINee members. Seriously? But as far as I remember I had not said anything which would disrespect the members. I only said what was right, which the members should had done by mentioning Jonghyun's name. And I don't think I disrespected the members by saying this. Besides, if you found my words disrespectful, then you should have said this by mentioning me in the comments section of your post before deleting my comments. Well anyway, God Bless You".

Later my comment was removed again and I was also blocked.

So if it was "disrespectful", then what does the "respect" look like?

If speaking the truth and raising voice for right was wrong or disrespectful then I am glad that I was wrong/disrespectful.

And lastly, sorry for writing too much but I wanted to share this, so I did.

 

[arhur12]

I too don't feel bad for him at all and that's what he deserves, lol.

I said sorry before saying that just because a few days ago someone had objected to saying something like that, so that's why I said sorry. Other than that, I don't have any hard feelings for him.

I didn't see his music video and nor did I see the behind-the-scenes footage, so I do not know about it. But on the one hand if he said and joked that he shouldn't portray himself as god because he goes to church and on the other hand if he wanted to look like satan, then it is really disgusting. I don't know what else to say about it, but I feel disgusted right now.

You don't have to take that other member's comment seriously. I didn't want to derail the thread when they complained but they have said they were a K3y biased person in the past, so I think they were offended by the messages because they could not believe in their mind that k3y could be doing something evil.

 

[OrinaCano]

You don't have to take that other member's comment seriously. I didn't want to derail the thread when they complained but they have said they were a K3y biased person in the past, so I think they were offended by the messages because they could not believe in their mind that k3y could be doing something evil.

I didn't take that person's words seriously and I agree with you. I guess the thing is, people don't want to see and accept what's happening in the world of Kpop, especially they don't want to accept the dark things that all artists do. People just want to be sheep and not hear anything bad about the artists, especially the truth.

 

[arhur12]

I didn't take that person's words seriously and I agree with you. I guess the thing is, people don't want to see and accept what's happening in the world of Kpop, especially they don't want to accept the dark things that all artists do. People just want to be sheep and not hear anything bad about the artists, especially the truth.

Well, that member had no issue commenting that T@emin could be pretending to have a mental breakdown so he could maybe get an early discharge, so I don't think they are in denial just probably they couldn't accept K3y being evil because they once liked him and probably thought he was innocent. It's just being on the thread for more than a year now I think some of us still have a soft spot for our past favs. I also have a soft spot for some idols, but I try not to close my eyes to the reality of the industry. I pray for those who I think are suffering from industry abuse but at the end of the day it is their own decision to become a part of this satanic system and at one point you lose your victim card.

 

[PrincessPunch]

but at the end of the day it is their own decision to become a part of this satanic system and at one point you lose your victim card.

yep. its still good to pray for them but at this point it's dumb to keep making excuses for them, especially if they are far along in their career. they know exactly what they're doing

 

[arhur12]

Exactly right.

They didn't forget to name Jonghyun whenever they wanted to promote themselves and especially to make their album a hit. But when members should remember Jonghyun and name him, they don't, just as the members didn't name Jonghyun on the group's 14th debut anniversary.

And when I said this on a fanpage that members should have named Jonghyun on their 14th anniversary day because they are 5 and Jonghyun is still an important part of their group.

So some idiots told me that I should not forget about how suicide/death it s seen in South Korea, and I should don't forget how he left this world and SHINee was subtile, very subtile, they didn't say his name but his songs.

But when I said that "Yeah, I know SHINee was subtile and I know very well that how death is seen in South Korea, but just because he left that doesn't mean Jonghyun's name wasn't worth mentioning on the day of their anniversary celebration. He should be remembered and celebrated anyway because they are 5. Besides, I don't think there was any problem with Jonghyun's name being mentioned and he deserves to be remembered and mentioned on their special anniversary day, especially he deserves to be remembered and mentioned by his members on their most special day".

Later my comments were deleted and it was said that I was disrespectful and I insulted the members by saying so, so my comments had to be deleted, which I did not do.

And when I asked about it that "you deleted my comments because my comments were disrespectful towards SHINee members. Seri ously? But as far as I remember I had not said anything which would disrespect the members. I only said what was right, which the members should had done by mentioning Jonghyun's name. And I don't think I disrespected the members by saying this. Besides, if you found my words dis respectful, then you should have said this by mentioning me in the comments section of your post before deleting my comments. Well anyway, God Bless You".

Later my comment was removed again and I was also blocked.

So if speaking the truth and raising voice for right was wrong or disrespectful then I am glad that I was wrong/disrespectful.

And lastly, sorry for writing too much but I wanted to share this, so I did.

I left the fandom because Sh@wols are extremely annoying bunch of people. They had no issue using jj0ng's name for their comebacks but when it came to the 14th debut anniversary they didn't mention him at all. That says a lot about how much they care about him. I don't understand the logic behind their claim of continuing as a group because they want to "Carry on jj0ng's legacy" and then not mentioning JJong on important events related to the group except when they need attention for a comeback.

 

[arhur12]

yep. its still good to pray for them but at this point it's dumb to keep making excuses for them, especially if they are far along in their career. they know exactly what they're doing

I think it's ok to pray for an idol who may be visibly going through a hard time because of the way many of them end up getting killed to further the elites' agenda like how some people pray for britney but defending someone who is thriving in their career and shows no signs of remorse or regret doesn't make sense to me. If they are happily doing their job they probably willingly soul their sold to the devil.

 

[Strawberrypie]

He has the most fans in India, Philippines, Indonesia and SEA countries. US is not a big market for him. Sh1nee's maknae is the one most popular in US and western market but SM never tried to promote him solo there when he was active. I am saying this based on the data in their artist profile on YouTube music charts.

Taem1n fits better in America. His rebellious behavior and sense of humor fits a lot more than his hyungs. He also made an effort to approach foreign fans. Most kpop groups teach one member English or have a gyopo and that's it. Taem1n caught up with English really fast for Supe4m.

Exactly right.

They didn't forget to name Jonghyun whenever they wanted to promote themselves and especially to make their album a hit. But when members should remember Jonghyun and name him, they don't, just as the members didn't name Jonghyun on the group's 14th debut anniversary.

And when I said this on a fanpage that members should have named Jonghyun on their 14th anniversary day because they are 5 and Jonghyun is still an important part of their group.

So some idiots told me that I should not forget about how suicide/death it s seen in South Korea, and I should don't forget how he left this world and SHINee was subtile, very subtile, they didn't say his name but his songs.

But when I said that "Yeah, I know SHINee was subtile and I know very well that how death is seen in South Korea, but just because he left that doesn't mean Jonghyun's name wasn't worth mentioning on the day of their anniversary celebration. He should be remembered and celebrated anyway because they are 5. Besides, I don't think there was any problem with Jonghyun's name being mentioned and he deserves to be remembered and mentioned on their special anniversary day, especially he deserves to be remembered and mentioned by his members on their most special day".

Later my comments were deleted and it was said that I was disrespectful and I insulted the members by saying so, so my comments had to be deleted, which I did not do.

And when I asked about it that "you deleted my comments because my comments were disrespectful towards SHINee members. Seri ously? But as far as I remember I had not said anything which would disrespect the members. I only said what was right, which the members should had done by mentioning Jonghyun's name. And I don't think I disrespected the members by saying this. Besides, if you found my words dis respectful, then you should have said this by mentioning me in the comments section of your post before deleting my comments. Well anyway, God Bless You".

Later my comment was removed again and I was also blocked.

So if speaking the truth and raising voice for right was wrong or disrespectful then I am glad that I was wrong/disrespectful.

And lastly, sorry for writing too much but I wanted to share this, so I did.

Wow I'm surprised they didn't mention him. There's videos of his members saying they weren't allowed to say his name. I'm disappointed that they wouldn't mention the person who wrote many of their songs.

I didn't know him, and he wasn't on my radar the year he passed, but it's upset me many, many times. I've had to stop listening to SHINee and listen to Taem1n's music or something else to take my mind off it. I'm very sensitive to things like that, and when I watched Replay the first time, I felt this terrible pain in my soul. Having gone through the theatrics of being an army, I pushed it away. Anyone who listens can hear his pain in his voice. It's everywhere, and it's painful to watch him shrink into himself while he grew as an artist. Something very bad happened. It could be suicide, but I don't buy that he finally decided it wasn't for him to keep going.

There's recent studies showing that men are more likely to decide on suicide out of nowhere. As someone who has struggled with this daily, it can come out of nowhere. The day can be amazing, nothing else doing on, but I think about dying. I've never shared this before because it's dangerous to say that aloud, but I get the feeling all the time. He could've been triggered by someone's actions, debt, threats, a breakup, or the depression he was suffering from. Jjong cried because Taem1n shared a sad song with him. Tae laughed it off, but he was shocked to see his hyung crying and pretended he didn't to save his privacy.

 

[PrincessPunch]

I think it's ok to pray for an idol who may be visibly going through a hard time because of the way many of them end up getting killed to further the elites' agenda like how some people pray for britney but defending someone who is thriving in their career and shows no signs of remorse or regret doesn't make sense to me. If they are happily doing their job they probably willingly soul their sold to the devil.

with k3y specifically i'm pretty sure he was born into the industry, so in certain aspects i do see him as a victim since he probably grew up being groomed and thinking this lifestyle is right. i won't he suprised if there are accounts of childhood sa and abuse from his past