Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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Well I hope that they disband after a 2023 comeback. Staying together is obviously affecting their mental health because they cannot fill jjong's empty space.
The fans won't let them heal or become healthy. It's sad but disbanding is heathier than struggling on together. They're miserable. 0new is checked out most of the time, and Minh0 is trying to be the strong one but he can't take his place.
 

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People don't take him seriously? He's well known for variety appearances but not as much for music with younger
audiences. SHINe3 went on a show to listen to their music with kids. They were unfamiliar with the group and basically called them old. The boy K3y listened with remembered once he told him about Am@zing Satu4day. That's all he knew is K3y is on that show. Taem1n has more recognition but the rest aren't known anymore.

A gossip thread said idols were never meant to disband but to eventually take positions on shows and movies and have comebacks periodically. Idols stopped doing that and disappeared. I wonder why. Couldn't be the awful treatment, low pay, crazy fans, or being used to hide scandals? No couldn't be that.
Gasoline flopped on Korean charts. As a musician no one takes him seriously. He is famous for variety just like Heechu1. T@e is recognised more as a musical artist because of Move's legacy and all the juniors who cite him as a role model.

The idol concept was stolen from Japan. It is common in Japan for idols to branch out and do other activities like Mcing, radio hosting, news casting, acting etc. I know a few J-idols who became news casters. One J-idol Takuya Kimura is now more famous for his acting career than his musical career with his band SMAP. The Japanese idols the male ones at least don't have to work like slaves. They aren't expected to perform perfectly on stage or compete with singers and dancers. Korean ones on the other hand face physical and mental abuse which might make them want to quit after they grow up.
 

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He said he would have a collaboration with him when he released Gasoline. I think he may try to become famous in America.
Yes, I too think that he is now thinking and planning to become famous in America. But I did not know that he had said that he would collaborate with him when he released Gasoline. So, thank you for letting me know this.
 

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Is this a clue that SHINe3 will disband soon?


That's what I'm wondering too. He gave up something to get this much attention.

The fans want to enjoy kpop without the crying, suicides, SA, drug use and misery behind their pg kboo and x-rated fujo fantasies. They don't care about their oppars and unnies. The idols are playthings for them to pick up and throw away when bored. If these were regular people, they wouldn't pretend to care. The masks would drop.
Yes, it could be a possibility or a sign that SHINee will be disbanded soon. Also, now people are not as interested in them as before when Jonghyun was part of their group. Even their songs are not as good as they were before and they are losing their charm too.

Besides, SHINee's activities as a group of four members is not as much as they were when Jonghyun was part of them. They are just busy with their own activities and their own work. They were all so lively, wonderful, energetic and funny before Jonghyun left that people loved watching them, especially people really enjoyed listening to their songs. They were so good as a group. But after Jonghyun left, they are simply lost and without him they are nothing.
 
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Gasoline flopped on Korean charts. As a musician no one takes him seriously. He is famous for variety just like Heechu1. T@e is recognised more as a musical artist because of Move's legacy and all the juniors who cite him as a role model.

The idol concept was stolen from Japan. It is common in Japan for idols to branch out and do other activities like Mcing, radio hosting, news casting, acting etc. I know a few J-idols who became news casters. One J-idol Takuya Kimura is now more famous for his acting career than his musical career with his band SMAP. The Japanese idols the male ones at least don't have to work like slaves. They aren't expected to perform perfectly on stage or compete with singers and dancers. Korean ones on the other hand face physical and mental abuse which might make them want to quit after they grow up.
The Japanese idols don't have to be picture perfect or look like an anime character. Why do kpop fans expect perfect vocals, dancing, visuals and a pristine virgin until they're 45? It's more about the persona and having fun than the music, or could be but fans take it very seriously. The fact idols are competing against real musicians and singers on the charts is mind blowing.

Taem1n is an artist and K3y is an idol. One has mastered his craft and brings a level of artistry to every concert that makes others study him, even outside of his genre. The other is a very good singer and dancer but is a manufactured act. It's why Taemin chafed in Superm and resented being pushed into another manufactured group, after several years of making his own music and being taken seriously by the industry.

I'm not trying to put K3y down. He's very talented, even at debut he was one of the best in his group. His talents at dancing, singing, fashion and variety shows makes him very well rounded. However, he's not at the level of his maknae when it comes to worldwide recognition and being able to breakout of the idol mold. One is a kpop artist and the other is a kpop idol. SHINe3 members have said they are a manufactured group.
 

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I too think that he is now thinking and planning to become famous in America
If he didn't make it in Korea, I seriously doubt he's gonna success in America.
it could be a possibility or a sign that SHINee will be disbanded soon
It really makes no sense without Jonghyun. Some groups can survive if one or more members leave (or other things), but I don't think it's Shinee's case.
 

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If he didn't make it in Korea, I seriously doubt he's gonna success in America.

It really makes no sense without Jonghyun. Some groups can survive if one or more members leave (or other things), but I don't think it's Shinee's case.
He has the most fans in India, Philippines, Indonesia and SEA countries. US is not a big market for him. Sh1nee's maknae is the one most popular in US and western market but SM never tried to promote him solo there when he was active. I am saying this based on the data in their artist profile on YouTube music charts.
 

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It's all just a cheap dududu, blatant predictive programming
It's a rehash of dududu, no doubt, with influences of the 90's/early 00's rap. I find it eerie, the sound of a shutter and them singing "pull down the shutter lock the door". A lot of small businesses have been forced to shutdown (is this song referring to that?, a little far-fetched maybe?)
"Keep talking we shut you down" keep in mind the attacks to free speech we are living and, this phrase it's scary.
 

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Gasoline flopped on Korean charts. As a musician no one takes him seriously. He is famous for variety just like Heechu1. T@e is recognised more as a musical artist because of Move's legacy and all the juniors who cite him as a role model.

The idol concept was stolen from Japan. It is common in Japan for idols to branch out and do other activities like Mcing, radio hosting, news casting, acting etc. I know a few J-idols who became news casters. One J-idol Takuya Kimura is now more famous for his acting career than his musical career with his band SMAP. The Japanese idols the male ones at least don't have to work like slaves. They aren't expected to perform perfectly on stage or compete with singers and dancers. Korean ones on the other hand face physical and mental abuse which might make them want to quit after they grow up.
Sorry to say this, but I'm glad that his album didn't turn out to be a hit after doing so much. And especially, I'm glad it didn't work out for him to use Jonghyun this time. But again sorry to say this.
 

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He has the most fans in India, Philippines, Indonesia and SEA countries. US is not a big market for him. Sh1nee's maknae is the one most popular in US and western market but SM never tried to promote him solo there when he was active. I am saying this based on the data in their artist profile on YouTube music charts.
Key is not famous in India, BTS is more famous in India. Besides, Indian fans love BTS more than any other group/artist.

Notably, the popularity of BTS in India has grown tremendously since their first Indian interview last year. Even, Indian fans are eagerly waiting for BTS first concert in India.
 

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The Japanese idols don't have to be picture perfect or look like an anime character. Why do kpop fans expect perfect vocals, dancing, visuals and a pristine virgin until they're 45? It's more about the persona and having fun than the music, or could be but fans take it very seriously. The fact idols are competing against real musicians and singers on the charts is mind blowing.

Taem1n is an artist and K3y is an idol. One has mastered his craft and brings a level of artistry to every concert that makes others study him, even outside of his genre. The other is a very good singer and dancer but is a manufactured act. It's why Taemin chafed in Superm and resented being pushed into another manufactured group, after several years of making his own music and being taken seriously by the industry.

I'm not trying to put K3y down. He's very talented, even at debut he was one of the best in his group. His talents at dancing, singing, fashion and variety shows makes him very well rounded. However, he's not at the level of his maknae when it comes to worldwide recognition and being able to breakout of the idol mold. One is a kpop artist and the other is a kpop idol. SHINe3 members have said they are a manufactured group.
I agree with you well done analysys,and i have seen the performance with J3no,and Jeno outshined him,there is a part where i am not able to focus on Key,the scene is on J3no.
I don't think if was Taemin at Key place Jeno would outshined him
 

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Key is not famous in India, BTS is more famous in India. Besides, Indian fans love BTS more than any other group/artist.

Notably, the popularity of BTS in India has grown tremendously since their first Indian interview last year. Even, Indian fans are eagerly waiting for BTS first concert in India.
What I meant was most of K3y's solo fans live in India. It doesn't mean he is the most famous idol I India just that his music is more listened in the SEA countries and India compared to US. It is based on YouTube music charts
For example in Sh1nee's chart here SK and Japan are listed as top countries from where they receive views on their MVs. It means Sh1nee's fanbase is concentrated in these countries. I checked the artist profile for K3y during Gasoline era and most of rhe views for Gasoline came from SEA and India.
 

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Sorry to say this, but I'm glad that his album didn't turn out to be a hit after doing so much. And especially, I'm glad it didn't work out for him to use Jonghyun this time. But again sorry to say this.
Agree I don't feel bad for him at all. I watched behind the scenes of Gasoline and he joked that he shouldn't portray himself as god because he goes to church. In another clip someone told him he looks like the Satan with horns and he replied that he wants to look like Satan. It means he knew what he was doing and we cannot make any excuse for him.
 
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