BTS discussion thread

[jem123]

OMG! I should have known it would be something like that if it's in Jkay's concept. His photo shoots and performances always have sexual undertones. Thanks for letting me know though.

Anytime!

 

[minnie82]

Not surprised by JK's animal print as we all know what it means. Its disgusting, but I think he is numb to it. Not surprising to be honest! It was sad, but not anymore. JK knows what he is doing.

Well, now that they lost their innocence, it is what it is! They had a choice to be free, but their greedy ego rejected it. Now they are suffering from it. Gaunt looks, soulless eyes, looking older than they are. Probably sleepless nights.

Yes he surely knows what he doing, like I wrote in another post, always saw him as a victim since he start really young but not anymore

 

[jem123]

Yes he surely knows what he doing, like I wrote in another post, always saw him as a victim since he start really young but not anymore

Yup exactly!

 

[Laura755y]

Hmmm

Yeah, I think someone posted about it back there. The fact that T*e is promoting it should clue people in.. View attachment 79890
It's from an artist named Woo Kukwon. He has very questionable works...
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This one's called "feel my a**"
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So weird and creepy. And I've been said T*e makes me uncomfortable when he's with children. The little boy that did inner child with him was once pictured with a big teddy bear on his insta...and we've talked about what teddy bears mean. The boy or should I say his management/parents posted other pics related to t*e to help boost fame.
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Did you notice the handkerchief Jeon had in his latest ytb video?!? It has pedo symbols as well. Like they couldve get him a white or any other one but they choose this instead!
And the vampire concept! Isnt It basically drinking humans blood to be immortal and "Forever young" which by the way is one of their and many other celebrities/idols era or song.
Also the whole darkening soul talk, wasnt just a talk, like i said before they're trying to make people be ok with emerging with their bad sides, /accepting all their twisted ass desires.
The whole process of darkening soul, is disgusting asf, the things they do to be part of what they call it "illumination" is really fucked up, it goes mainly through rituals, since demons get involved, the reason why they always say "we/you never walk alone" and him who was abused the most, promoting it, just shows how fucked up he really is, plus the way he talks was as if he's on some heroin and shit.
Also like ya'll said, the concept of balancing the darkness and the light, they actually believe that they're the choosen one and they're the one in the light, "illuminati" so basically the light both Rm and Jeon had in their concept, is for them the right way, to reach the ultimate power, "become a god / an immortal" ...

 

[theartbook35]

Guys, this was RM's pictorial today released. It is interesting because of the choice of the title - "Entirety" - Entirety means wholeness. But these occultic people's wholeness can mean something else right. Its like demonic enlightment of some sort.

Like it shows RM, ( in black) - denoting his soul (which is empty and soulless, and demonic), while surrounded by light. The white light in contrast to the black shadow can mean duality. We know duality carries a lot of weight in the occultic world. Like yin and yang.

Its like Rm is telling people that he has a dark, evil and a emotionless soul and there is no going back. He has learned to balance with the light and he has reached wholeness or oneness.

What do you think ?

I was so exhausted from my job yesterday (and this week in general. I started this job two weeks ago and I've got a lot of kids who need a lot of help with so many things. Which is totally fine, I adore them all but it's a lot of work) that I never got into the occult/duality/paganism discussion.

I have a unique-ish perspective to bring to this because I'm Igbo. Igbo are not necessarily pagan, but other indigenous groups around the world are "pagan", as in, they believe in multiple gods/deities/symbols/idols. If we take a moment to delve into anthropology and the history of religions, paganism came first. I'm not trying to downplay Christianity, I'm simply speaking from a scientific point of view. (FYI, Igbo funerals involve animal sacrifices, which is why I don't practice the religion because I'm not into doing that). To explain this more, the traditional Igbo religion has a god who is above all others, and there are lesser gods which are worshipped too. Igbo adopt the duality mindset of paganism also.

Igbo religion is hard to explain to non-Igbo. Duality is our culture is about coexistence. We believe what we believe and we are aware of other beliefs. This is why we believe anyone can be Igbo if they reside in Igbo-land. We have often been labeled as progressive and we are not, we are just practicing a thousands years old pagan mindset of seeing ourselves as existing within a world where we worship many things and integrate those things into our daily lives. Which brings me to a second point, that paganism is also when a religion and culture share the same space. The religious practice is a way of life, because of how the two are connected. It's not the same as Christianity being a part of someone's life or someone living by their religion. You can, and often do in Christianity function outside of your religious mindset. Pagans don't do that; life/culture and religion are the same. (If you want to see it another way, look into the Greek philosophy about how playing and learning are the same. It's not that children learn through play, or that they learn because they play, it's because playing is learning and learning is playing).

The Kpop duality of "cute vs. badass/sexy" has never really bothered me, because at it's core, it's just a way for netizens to say "Look at how this idol can be so adorable one minute and hot the next! They are so versatile as an artist!" It's not versatility at all but that's how most Kpop fans view it so it works for those idols and for their companies. I can pull off duality right now with my phone's camera by taking a cute selfie then a sexy selfie and call it a day. It's something that anyone else with 0% talent can do. It's annoying and dumb that people label that as talent and versatile but it is what it is.

What I hate passionately, are JK's "meat curtain" and RM doing this entirety photo thing. This is not the typical duality within Kpop. This is an attempt at stealing duality from REAL pagans who practice religion NORMALLY. (By normal, I mean in a way that does not do harm to other people). It is, once again, a bastardization of indigenous peoples from around the world. It's also strangely sexual, and I can assure all of you right now that REAL paganism DOES NOT approach duality in this way, and anyone who says otherwise to you is lying.

The paganism that I'm used to typically doesn't view duality and wholeness as a balance between dark and light, or good and evil. It's supposed to be about people coming together. What JK and RM have done so far is wrong on so many levels.

Duality does carry a lot of weight because like I described above, it's about a way of life/culture. Modern-day occultists/paganists have really taken this and played around with it without acknowledging the meaning and where it actually came from. It's not cultural appropriation, it's theft. It's also taking something which was intended to promote equality and unity among people and applying beliefs to it which don't make sense in the religion's origin and are also really offensive. They are also doing this for profit, which is disgusting.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask me.

 

[Shuna]

I was so exhausted from my job yesterday (and this week in general. I started this job two weeks ago and I've got a lot of kids who need a lot of help with so many things. Which is totally fine, I adore them all but it's a lot of work) that I never got into the occult/duality/paganism discussion.

I have a unique-ish perspective to bring to this because I'm Igbo. Igbo are not necessarily pagan, but other indigenous groups around the world are "pagan", as in, they believe in multiple gods/deities/symbols/idols. If we take a moment to delve into anthropology and the history of religions, paganism came first. I'm not trying to downplay Christianity, I'm simply speaking from a scientific point of view. (FYI, Igbo funerals involve animal sacrifices, which is why I don't practice the religion because I'm not into doing that). To explain this more, the traditional Igbo religion has a god who is above all others, and there are lesser gods which are worshipped too. Igbo adopt the duality mindset of paganism also.

Igbo religion is hard to explain to non-Igbo. Duality is our culture is about coexistence. We believe what we believe and we are aware of other beliefs. This is why we believe anyone can be Igbo if they reside in Igbo-land. We have often been labeled as progressive and we are not, we are just practicing a thousands years old pagan mindset of seeing ourselves as existing within a world where we worship many things and integrate those things into our daily lives. Which brings me to a second point, that paganism is also when a religion and culture share the same space. The religious practice is a way of life, because of how the two are connected. It's not the same as Christianity being a part of someone's life or someone living by their religion. You can, and often do in Christianity function outside of your religious mindset. Pagans don't do that; life/culture and religion are the same. (If you want to see it another way, look into the Greek philosophy about how playing and learning are the same. It's not that children learn through play, or that they learn because they play, it's because playing is learning and learning is playing).

The Kpop duality of "cute vs. badass/sexy" has never really bothered me, because at it's core, it's just a way for netizens to say "Look at how this idol can be so adorable one minute and hot the next! They are so versatile as an artist!" It's not versatility at all but that's how most Kpop fans view it so it works for those idols and for their companies. I can pull off duality right now with my phone's camera by taking a cute selfie then a sexy selfie and call it a day. It's something that anyone else with 0% talent can do. It's annoying and dumb that people label that as talent and versatile but it is what it is.

What I hate passionately, are JK's "meat curtain" and RM doing this entirety photo thing. This is not the typical duality within Kpop. This is an attempt at stealing duality from REAL pagans who practice religion NORMALLY. (By normal, I mean in a way that does not do harm to other people). It is, once again, a bastardization of indigenous peoples from around the world. It's also strangely sexual, and I can assure all of you right now that REAL paganism DOES NOT approach duality in this way, and anyone who says otherwise to you is lying.

The paganism that I'm used to typically doesn't view duality and wholeness as a balance between dark and light, or good and evil. It's supposed to be about people coming together. What JK and RM have done so far is wrong on so many levels.

Duality does carry a lot of weight because like I described above, it's about a way of life/culture. Modern-day occultists/paganists have really taken this and played around with it without acknowledging the meaning and where it actually came from. It's not cultural appropriation, it's theft. It's also taking something which was intended to promote equality and unity among people and applying beliefs to it which don't make sense in the religion's origin and are also really offensive. They are also doing this for profit, which is disgusting.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask me.

Could you detail, what is the importance of rituals?

 

[minnie82]

 

[theartbook35]

Could you detail, what is the importance of rituals?

Sure, absolutely. It's an afterlife thing. It's all about continuation and making sure the person gets where they need to go, and gets there cleanly.

This article details pagan traditions and rituals really well: https://classroom.synonym.com/burial-rites-igbo-culture-2377.html Doesn't just talk about Igbo, but also indigenous Americans.

The blood sacrifice that the page doesn't detail which occurs in Igbo funerals, that's a gift to the gods. That's really it. I wish something like that had more meaning but it really doesn't.

 

[cadiz]

i guess armeees who said kpop was over after BT5 hiatus were wrong

BP just broke a record with their awful song

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1560951718703136769

dont like them and think their talent is average but this shows BT5 are easy to replace
just replaced by 4 instagram models

 

[minnie82]

i guess armeees who said kpop was over after BT5 hiatus were wrong

BP just broke a record with their awful song

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1560951718703136769

dont like them and think their talent is average but this shows BT5 are easy to replace
just replaced by 4 instagram models

not surprised, because they are the female version of them ..

 

[Berrywon88]

Did you notice the handkerchief Jeon had in his latest ytb video?!? It has pedo symbols as well. Like they couldve get him a white or any other one but they choose this instead!
And the vampire concept! Isnt It basically drinking humans blood to be immortal and "Forever young" which by the way is one of their and many other celebrities/idols era or song.
Also the whole darkening soul talk, wasnt just a talk, like i said before they're trying to make people be ok with emerging with their bad sides, /accepting all their twisted ass desires.
The whole process of darkening soul, is disgusting asf, the things they do to be part of what they call it "illumination" is really fucked up, it goes mainly through rituals, since demons get involved, the reason why they always say "we/you never walk alone" and him who was abused the most, promoting it, just shows how fucked up he really is, plus the way he talks was as if he's on some heroin and shit.
Also like ya'll said, the concept of balancing the darkness and the light, they actually believe that they're the choosen one and they're the one in the light, "illuminati" so basically the light both Rm and Jeon had in their concept, is for them the right way, to reach the ultimate power, "become a god / an immortal" ...

Whoa good eye. This was a lot to take in...I always like your analysis breakdowns. For example, I never thought about "the light" imagery in that way, but it makes sense. With their huge egos and their celebrity status it's easy for them to think they are chosen as the one's that will lead others and become forever immortalized. I also agree about b*s trying to normalize feeding one's desires regardless of how debased it is. Basically Crowley's "Do what thou wilt." We can see extreme selfishness is not only condoned but encouraged by b*s works "Love Myself." vs. Jesus's "Love thy neighbour as thyself." They also notably made a song named after the Greek mythology figure Dionysus, who is linked to ritual madness, hedonism, and excessive consumption of wine. I looked up the lyrics and there is mentions of being born again...Now why would they make a song like this for their majority underage fans?..What are they actually promoting?...
"What to do with I will show you, I propel towards something completely different / From my mic made of Ivy and scruffy wood / There’s no other sound but my one breath / Until the sun comes up, where the party at / Until we fall asleep, where the party at / Sing it, sing it again / Drink it, drink it again / We’re born again"
At the time b*s were praised by their fans for being woke kings with this song. Armies grasping at straws is nothing new.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1115280453739483136

 

[Laura755y]

Whoa good eye. This was a lot to take in...I always like your analysis breakdowns. For example, I never thought about "the light" imagery in that way, but it makes sense. With their huge egos and their celebrity status it's easy for them to think they are chosen as the one's that will lead others and become forever immortalized. I also agree about b*s trying to normalize feeding one's desires regardless of how debased it is. Basically Crowley's "Do what thou wilt." We can see extreme selfishness is not only condoned but encouraged by b*s works "Love Myself." vs. Jesus's "Love thy neighbour as thyself." They also notably made a song named after the Greek mythology figure Dionysus, who is linked to ritual madness, hedonism, and excessive consumption of wine. I looked up the lyrics and there is mentions of being born again...Now why would they make a song like this for their majority underage fans?..What are they actually promoting?...
"What to do with I will show you, I propel towards something completely different / From my mic made of Ivy and scruffy wood / There’s no other sound but my one breath / Until the sun comes up, where the party at / Until we fall asleep, where the party at / Sing it, sing it again / Drink it, drink it again / We’re born again"
At the time b*s were praised by their fans for being woke kings with this song. Armies grasping at straws is nothing new.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1115280453739483136

2a

Exactly! They're out there promoting the most, deranged desires, and people calls them "woke kings". And you got it right they and all the other celebrities who have lost their humanity, think that they're here as leaders, but also they believe that "us" are basically here to serve them.
Isn't ironic tho, they tell them that they're gods, but still Bow to those who are in a higher position, and treated like dirt still.

 

[Shuna]

Sure, absolutely. It's an afterlife thing. It's all about continuation and making sure the person gets where they need to go, and gets there cleanly.

This article details pagan traditions and rituals really well: https://classroom.synonym.com/burial-rites-igbo-culture-2377.html Doesn't just talk about Igbo, but also indigenous Americans.

The blood sacrifice that the page doesn't detail which occurs in Igbo funerals, that's a gift to the gods. That's really it. I wish something like that had more meaning but it really doesn't.

Thank you!

For the symbolic side, the practice is more common than one might think. For the symbolic side, the practice is more common than one might think. Pour le côté symbolique, la pratique est plus courante qu'on ne le pense. On the symbolic side, the practice is more common than one might think. Côté symbolique, la pratique est plus courante qu'on ne le pense. Moreover, even some animals practice it. For example, for Catholics, the funeral and the feast are on the same day.

If it can be of interest: It is, moreover, with the intention, not to say that the religions are better, one than the other, but at the beginning, I just wanted to see the similarities between the religions (now , I move on to evolution). The result of the first search is the cycle that I have often named.

 

[theartbook35]

Thank you!

For the symbolic side, the practice is more common than one might think. For the symbolic side, the practice is more common than one might think. Pour le côté symbolique, la pratique est plus courante qu'on ne le pense. On the symbolic side, the practice is more common than one might think. Côté symbolique, la pratique est plus courante qu'on ne le pense. Moreover, even some animals practice it. For example, for Catholics, the funeral and the feast are on the same day.

If it can be of interest: It is, moreover, with the intention, not to say that the religions are better, one than the other, but at the beginning, I just wanted to see the similarities between the religions (now , I move on to evolution). The result of the first search is the cycle that I have often named.

I think intention is very important. I'm Atheist and have zero interest in any religious practice. I don't consider most traditional pagan rituals and sacrifices to be bad because it's just the way people do things.

To add to the discussion above about Dionysus, they have the lyrics "one drink, two drinks", and again, two goes with that duality. It's annoying because again they are stealing a religion to make money and also referencing something which is much darker than most people realize. Frankly, it's creepy.

The last thing BT5 are, are woke kings. In fact they aren't that at all. I don't get people's need for a woke idol anyway. It's utterly pointless to be woke. We can just treat people right and call it a day. No reason to overdo it.

 

[Shuna]

I think intention is very important. I'm Atheist and have zero interest in any religious practice. I don't consider most traditional pagan rituals and sacrifices to be bad because it's just the way people do things.

To add to the discussion above about Dionysus, they have the lyrics "one drink, two drinks", and again, two goes with that duality. It's annoying because again they are stealing a religion to make money and also referencing something which is much darker than most people realize. Frankly, it's creepy.

The last thing BT5 are, are woke kings. In fact they aren't that at all. I don't get people's need for a woke idol anyway. It's utterly pointless to be woke. We can just treat people right and call it a day. No reason to overdo it.

Thank you!!! I myself am an Atheist. This is one of the reasons that pushed me to do this blog.

I did not understand, why people, Catholics, many of whom called themselves Catholic, but did not follow the Bible and forced people to convert, while claiming that if people were Atheist, they had to be Satanist...

 

[delusion.everywhere]

Talking about jk, I logged in yesterday to post this pic. What's with him? He looks different?!? As I don't keep up with them so I don't really know.

Also this video, don't understand why people are so thirsty.

On another note, I haven't kept it with the thread for a while, read few last pages and got distracted by the drama lol. What with their military enlistment thing? Nobody seems to discuss it. Are they exempted?

 

[delusion.everywhere]

not bts related but entertainment industry related you can read up this word given from the Lord on what actually goes on https://the-masters-voice.com/2022/08/19/the-sodomy-ritual-the-dirt-of-hollywood-pt-2-july-17-2022/

"Transference of Spirits Through Occult Rituals

With rituals come demons and with demonic states comes TRANSFERENCE which is
among other things a process where evil spirits are passed through physical sexual contact-
whether by r*pe, sodomy, or other types of molestation that break the gates of a person's soul
and gives the demons access.

Transference is what God says is being practiced on many stars who are forced
to perform rituals, those who agree to do it, and the population on a mass scale. It's
happening on a massive scale where demons have free access to millions and can easily affect
them at a social level, or through spiritual oppression and demonic states [all this is the result
of demonic rituals done by single and married superstars from all walks of life, including
politicians but especially rappers and singers who are influencing people by their music,
videos and lyrics]. There is a reason these people travel extensively, performing even when
they're very tired and have been on the road for months on end. They have their end of the
bargain to hold up in terms of creating, maintaining and contributing to worldwide occult
energy and powers.

Rituals are practised on the population on a mass scale and have occurred all over the world at
Beyoncé's concerts Jay-Z's concerts, shows for Rihanna, Future, Kanye West and multiple
mega superstars like Lady Gaga. Rituals occur frequently at shows of music stars and even on
the set of some movies.

It occurs on the runway - models are asked to participate in 'mantras' 'tuning' and 'good
energy' but all it is all a trigger point for DEMONS TO ENTER AND TAKE CONTROL. Every
ritual serves a purpose, to create defilement of whoever views or listens to the end product.
Some are done to freshly conjure evil spirits while other rituals focus on transferring demons
to the public and even the staff and crew of the singer, modeling house or movie company.

The music of demon-worshippers is defilement itself, full of spells, chants, mind-control
and evil suggestions that incant wickedness over people who listen to it. The Lord was
saying if you listen to it you are automatically participating in the ritual. People become
participators in the spell by repeating the lines of the music over and over to themselves and
to one another. The more it is sung, the more it is released as an incantation and powerful
'spellbinding' over them. This is typical for rock music spells where riffs and chords can be
used to excite the spiritual world without anybody knowing a thing. This is why when crowds
reach fever pitch in stadiums during music shows, some people who are weaker in bodily
constitution or spirit begin to rapidly convulse, go into shock, go into mentally altered
states and some suffer the full effect of the spell and die."

I totally believe in energy, entity attachments and other of these practices through witchcraft. Actually been a victim of black-magic. People make fun of these beliefs. But let me tell you one thing, if people believe in different dimensions, alternate realities from a scientific pov, they must look into the paradigm shift of how ancient pagan practices are now re-emerged in form of new-age practices. Just log in once into tiktok alt section and you'll know how teens are dabbling blatantly in all these stuff. As it's been normalized, no one seems to bat an eye. Just yesterday read a comment on a cosplayer's video as how somebody owns a book which has power to kill people and the video creator was begging to get that book from that person. I mean..

 

[theartbook35]

Thank you!!! I myself am an Atheist. This is one of the reasons that pushed me to do this blog.

I did not understand, why people, Catholics, many of whom called themselves Catholic, but did not follow the Bible and forced people to convert, while claiming that if people were Atheist, they had to be Satanist...

I can totally relate to what you've said here.

I remember sitting beside a woman at a bus stop many years ago. We got to talking about this and that. She then invites me to her church. I thanked but also advised that I'm Atheist. Her smile disappeared, she turned her head and scooted to the other side of the bench. It's amazing to me how quickly q person can come to hate another person just because of a minor difference.

 

[delusion.everywhere]

not bts related but entertainment industry related you can read up this word given from the Lord on what actually goes on https://the-masters-voice.com/2022/08/19/the-sodomy-ritual-the-dirt-of-hollywood-pt-2-july-17-2022/

"Transference of Spirits Through Occult Rituals

With rituals come demons and with demonic states comes TRANSFERENCE which is
among other things a process where evil spirits are passed through physical sexual contact-
whether by r*pe, sodomy, or other types of molestation that break the gates of a person's soul
and gives the demons access.

Transference is what God says is being practiced on many stars who are forced
to perform rituals, those who agree to do it, and the population on a mass scale. It's
happening on a massive scale where demons have free access to millions and can easily affect
them at a social level, or through spiritual oppression and demonic states [all this is the result
of demonic rituals done by single and married superstars from all walks of life, including
politicians but especially rappers and singers who are influencing people by their music,
videos and lyrics]. There is a reason these people travel extensively, performing even when
they're very tired and have been on the road for months on end. They have their end of the
bargain to hold up in terms of creating, maintaining and contributing to worldwide occult
energy and powers.

Rituals are practised on the population on a mass scale and have occurred all over the world at
Beyoncé's concerts Jay-Z's concerts, shows for Rihanna, Future, Kanye West and multiple
mega superstars like Lady Gaga. Rituals occur frequently at shows of music stars and even on
the set of some movies.

It occurs on the runway - models are asked to participate in 'mantras' 'tuning' and 'good
energy' but all it is all a trigger point for DEMONS TO ENTER AND TAKE CONTROL. Every
ritual serves a purpose, to create defilement of whoever views or listens to the end product.
Some are done to freshly conjure evil spirits while other rituals focus on transferring demons
to the public and even the staff and crew of the singer, modeling house or movie company.

The music of demon-worshippers is defilement itself, full of spells, chants, mind-control
and evil suggestions that incant wickedness over people who listen to it. The Lord was
saying if you listen to it you are automatically participating in the ritual. People become
participators in the spell by repeating the lines of the music over and over to themselves and
to one another. The more it is sung, the more it is released as an incantation and powerful
'spellbinding' over them. This is typical for rock music spells where riffs and chords can be
used to excite the spiritual world without anybody knowing a thing. This is why when crowds
reach fever pitch in stadiums during music shows, some people who are weaker in bodily
constitution or spirit begin to rapidly convulse, go into shock, go into mentally altered
states and some suffer the full effect of the spell and die."

On another note, how Eddie munson metallica performance in Stranger thing Season-4 has received cult-level recognition, also the song where Max uses that Kate Bush song. They are portraying as music is something that can save lives when it's the other way around. I myself has such a love-hate relationship with music

 

[theartbook35]

I totally believe in energy, entity attachments and other of these practices through witchcraft. Actually been a victim of black-magic. People make fun of these beliefs. But let me tell you one thing, if people believe in different dimensions, alternate realities from a scientific pov, they must look into the paradigm shift of how ancient pagan practices are now re-emerged in form of new-age practices. Just log in once into tiktok alt section and you'll know how teens are dabbling blatantly in all these stuff. As it's been normalized, no one seems to bat an eye. Just yesterday read a comment on a cosplayer's video as how somebody owns a book which has power to kill people and the video creator was begging to get that book from that person. I mean..

I respect teens experimenting but there comes a point when their family needs to reel them in and keep them away from things that inspire death and unhealthy behavior in general.

Lots of teens are attracted to being "dark" and "moody" cause they think it makes them powerful or desirable. You are 15 years old, you don't need to be powerful or desirable. What you need to do is finish school, think about college, get an after school job and work toward getting your license. Develop independence. Parents today don't hold their kids to certain standards and what do we end up with? Teens wanting books with the power to kill people.