BTS discussion thread

[theartbook35]

Yes it's so sick and violating. The gay baiting is so annoying. I'm not used to this kind of fan service. It usually means showing favorite characters or plots someone's liked in the past. When I learned what kpop fanservice is, I was disgusted.

The gaybaiting is literally a manipulation of the LGBTQ+ community. BTS aren't who I look to for representation. I actually relate to straight people better than those who share the same sexual orientation as me.

I've seen grosser fanservice... years and years ago, SM Town forced members of Super Junior to kiss each other on stage. Just to get a rise out of fans. And people wonder why so many members left that group.

Regarding what you said about YG. He really doesn't like to be touched, unless he initiates it. Or if it is certain band members. He's more comfortable with guys like JH and TH (he used to be very comfortable with JM but that seems to have changed). The member who DOES NOT like being touched at all is NJ. Especially when JM is rubbing all over his thighs. He always looks like he wants to scream. If these guys were dating, this affection would be normal. It's very much outside of the norms for South Korean public affection.

And you're welcome for the support. Bigotry sends me over the edge. But also, no one should be treating you like you're less than human. That's just wrong.

 

[theartbook35]

It looks like a different boy. I think the first pic is after he got work done. Their fans will be the death of them. The beat to Butter is from an old video game. I wonder if they will admit it.

Plagiarism is a huge issue with BT5.

Louder Than Bombs' beat is nearly identical to Royals by Lorde. Serendipity plagiarized Ariana Grande's song Let Me Love You (you can listen to it here).

The beat from Butter is identical to that game. How lousy to not even come up with something original.

 

[swayy000]

 

[NGodsHnds]

It looks like a different boy. I think the first pic is after he got work done. Their fans will be the death of them. The beat to Butter is from an old video game. I wonder if they will admit it.

How did they even find that, looks like an older game. The thing is with music, producers take such creative license, I mean if you look at a lot of 90s rnb, those producers and artist were basically taking creative licenses with music already created from the 60s and 70s, and of course it still happens today. And to be clear it’s not me justifying but as someone who’s also been in music and have connections to the music industry it’s just fact. Some artist/producer will share that their song was inspired by another artist or a movie score but most of the time they don’t…quite a few artist are not even apart of the creative process (even when they claim to be), so they have no idea

 

[NGodsHnds]

The gaybaiting is literally a manipulation of the LGBTQ+ community. BTS aren't who I look to for representation. I actually relate to straight people better than those who share the same sexual orientation as me.

I've seen grosser fanservice... years and years ago, SM Town forced members of Super Junior to kiss each other on stage. Just to get a rise out of fans. And people wonder why so many members left that group.

Regarding what you said about YG. He really doesn't like to be touched, unless he initiates it. Or if it is certain band members. He's more comfortable with guys like JH and TH (he used to be very comfortable with JM but that seems to have changed). The member who DOES NOT like being touched at all is NJ. Especially when JM is rubbing all over his thighs. He always looks like he wants to scream. If these guys were dating, this affection would be normal. It's very much outside of the norms for South Korean public affection.

And you're welcome for the support. Bigotry sends me over the edge. But also, no one should be treating you like you're less than human. That's just wrong.

That is crazy to me that there is an event for this with host and fans wanting to see this! Is this an event that is televised in SK?

 

[theartbook35]

That is crazy to me that there is an event for this with host and fans wanting to see this! Is this an event that is televised in SK?

Those incidents were part of their "choreography" during regular concerts on a specific tour. I'm not sure if any of those concerts were televised... I doubt it. This was over ten years ago, like a year or two after Suju released their second album. The way I came across it back then was through fancams. There were A LOT of fancams.

Unlike BT5 fans though, Suju fans were typically much better at seeing the light. ELFs had a handful of crazy moments, like Only13, hating on Hankyung for leaving, and freaking out on Sungmin for getting married. But once word got out that the kissing fanservice was forced by SM Town, plus other atrocities committed by that label, their hardcore fans would stand up for them. SM never did that disgusting nonsense again (as far as I know).

If BT5 fans could be like that... less selfish and more down with reality, BH would treat BT5 better.

 

[Strawberrypie]

who's the celebrity ?

 

[Strawberrypie]

How did they even find that, looks like an older game. The thing is with music, producers take such creative license, I mean if you look at a lot of 90s rnb, those producers and artist were basically taking creative licenses with music already created from the 60s and 70s, and of course it still happens today. And to be clear it’s not me justifying but as someone who’s also been in music and have connections to the music industry it’s just fact. Some artist/producer will share that their song was inspired by another artist or a movie score but most of the time they don’t…quite a few artist are not even apart of the creative process (even when they claim to be), so they have no idea

Depending on if the company still exists, they can pursue copyright. A lot of work is influenced by others, and only the first few seconds sounds similar. Not justifying, especially with their history of plagiarism. Their fans are so obsessed they will find every single clue.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Those incidents were part of their "choreography" during regular concerts on a specific tour. I'm not sure if any of those concerts were televised... I doubt it. This was over ten years ago, like a year or two after Suju released their second album. The way I came across it back then was through fancams. There were A LOT of fancams.

Unlike BT5 fans though, Suju fans were typically much better at seeing the light. ELFs had a handful of crazy moments, like Only13, hating on Hankyung for leaving, and freaking out on Sungmin for getting married. But once word got out that the kissing fanservice was forced by SM Town, plus other atrocities committed by that label, their hardcore fans would stand up for them. SM never did that disgusting nonsense again (as far as I know).

If BT5 fans could be like that... less selfish and more down with reality, BH would treat BT5 better.

I've seen videos that show members obviously uncomfortable, and Armys say uWu, little bun likes it. No one likes another man rubbing his nipples. Hitting people on the butt is grounds for sexual harassment. Most of the hyungs refuse to do skinship. The first time I saw it, I freaked out. They take regular skinship to a level 11.

 

[Strawberrypie]

The gaybaiting is literally a manipulation of the LGBTQ+ community. BTS aren't who I look to for representation. I actually relate to straight people better than those who share the same sexual orientation as me.

I've seen grosser fanservice... years and years ago, SM Town forced members of Super Junior to kiss each other on stage. Just to get a rise out of fans. And people wonder why so many members left that group.

Regarding what you said about YG. He really doesn't like to be touched, unless he initiates it. Or if it is certain band members. He's more comfortable with guys like JH and TH (he used to be very comfortable with JM but that seems to have changed). The member who DOES NOT like being touched at all is NJ. Especially when JM is rubbing all over his thighs. He always looks like he wants to scream. If these guys were dating, this affection would be normal. It's very much outside of the norms for South Korean public affection.

And you're welcome for the support. Bigotry sends me over the edge. But also, no one should be treating you like you're less than human. That's just wrong.

Completely agree. They're violating people's body integrity, right to say no and personal space. I remember seeing the SJ kiss. That was too far. That's very manipulative and aimed directly at the Western LGBT community. It pisses me off when I see posts about btees supporting gay rights. They'd never do that. It's not popular in South Korea. There's a thin line between fanservice and gay representation. I used to think Amber was gay but she's come out as straight. Female idols can't stray too far from the normal or they're ostracized. Even supporting women's rights is a no.

Sg is closer to Tae and a few of the hyungs. He gives him parts that accentuate his voice in songs he's produced. I wonder what happened to make them close. Jm is always touching someone.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Plagiarism is a huge issue with BT5.

Louder Than Bombs' beat is nearly identical to Royals by Lorde. Serendipity plagiarized Ariana Grande's song Let Me Love You (you can listen to it here).

The beat from Butter is identical to that game. How lousy to not even come up with something original.

It's very well known but their fans deny. When confronted, they says it's an influence.

 

[queen82]

ok thanks

 

[queen82]

It's very well known but their fans deny. When confronted, they says it's an influence.

apparently Bts are not the only ones in kpop that copying songs from others, i remember when Momoland were accused to copy Mamamoo Hip for their songs Thumbs up , and there's others ..

 

[Strawberrypie]

apparently Bts are not the only ones in kpop that copying songs from others, i remember when Momoland were accused to copy Mamamoo Hip for their songs Thumbs up or I'm so hot i think , and there's others ..

It's really common for kpop groups to copy other artist's songs. South Korea is like China when it comes to taking inspiration from others. Take it and deny it later.

 

[5hawol]

Y'all are weird workers with no real life work
( :

... And you are a weird non-worker with no real life work ( :

 

[gettingedu]

Its not common, its mandatory ; )

what’s your problem?

 

[5hawol]

... I am the worker with sanity and freedom to GTFO that you can't get ( :

You are one of us now. Welcome to the club ( ;

 

[gettingedu]

Problem is I like the energy here ; )

wait huh i thought you were saying that the ppl in the forum have nothing better to do

 

[gettingedu]

Problem is I like the energy here ; )

They removed my emoji so it looks bland

 

[platinum]

some mental gymnastics

0:58 power arm is the thing that jacks in the head of neo in matrix and will jack us too! omg!
1:27 this might attack in your sleep!
2:22 warm up your blanket to go mars!
3:37 drop nuclear bombs to make in inhabitable!!!!!
Its supper villain!!! He is gonna attack us!! omg!!!
our planet is gonna end now

Yeah and how is this bts related?