SKZ Discussion Thread

[wow]

please don't associate Allah's name with this mess

yeah just say "God" because they could be talking about their God, not ours, we dont claim it anyways, that song is disrespectful, couldve just made the title something menu but they decided God will be great, which has nothing to do with the lyrics and the meaning of the song, they do be dragging religion into it.

So news just came in that w00jin personally addressed false s*xu*l h*r*ssment rumors

Here's the link
http://instagr.am/p/CMwoZk3H3Xn/

i knew it, the fact that ppl jumped into the bandwagon, literally saying he should kill himself is so dehumanizing, these ppl need help, i can see why he is traumatized by that, poor guy did nothing wrong and didnt even bully the members but get accused of it.

and im actually happy for him to leave the group, he is better without them and their satanic group and jyp3 is horrible and mistreated their idols anyways, but im not saying he is completely innocent, doesnt make sense to me if he leaves because he dont want to get involved in the shady stuff but proceeded to enter another company to become an artist, i feel like he likes attention and thinks being an idol makes him cool or maybe he just doesnt know what to do with his life except becoming an idol cause singing is what he is only good or confident at.

 

[Anonymous User]

i knew it, the fact that ppl jumped into the bandwagon, literally saying he should kill himself is so dehumanizing, these ppl need help, i can see why he is traumatized by that, poor guy did nothing wrong and didnt even bully the members but get accused of it.

and im actually happy for him to leave the group, he is better without them and their satanic group and jyp3 is horrible and mistreated their idols anyways, but im not saying he is completely innocent, doesnt make sense to me if he leaves because he dont want to get involved in the shady stuff but proceeded to enter another company to become an artist, i feel like he likes attention and thinks being an idol makes him cool or maybe he just doesnt know what to do with his life except becoming an idol cause singing is what he is only good or confident at.

He's been dragged way too much, I wish he left the industry completely. However, at least he's not in skz anymore which has a big future ahead of them (which isn't so good in our eyes)

 

[guesswho]

He's been dragged way too much, I wish he left the industry completely. However, at least he's not in skz anymore which has a big future ahead of them (which isn't so good in our eyes)

I think that even if he wants to completely get out of the industry (which I'm not saying is the case cuz we don't know) it would be extremely difficult, not impossible but not easy.
Let's not forget he was in JYPE, THAT big agency who got big not by innocent means, but evil ones as we know, so can they set him free? Didn't he get programmed like the rest of the members? Also he has to know jype's truth, maybe not the real real one but more than what ordinary people know.

Tbh I didn't watch wj's videos after his departure nor do I even know if he released music or if he used any symbolism after he left but maybe, even if not excellent, this alternative might still be better than staying in JYPE, bc maybe he doesn't have a choice but to stay in the industry for now.

Don't forget that what I said are mere speculations, if u know smthg I don't, feel free to correct me.

 

[guesswho]

yeah just say "God" because they could be talking about their God, not ours, we dont claim it anyways, that song is disrespectful, couldve just made the title something menu but they decided God will be great, which has nothing to do with the lyrics and the meaning of the song, they do be dragging religion into it.

ur right, they can't stay without dragging religion into it.
so ofc it only means their master. Plus didn't we say that this song is abt cannibalism and adrenchrome? This title would "make sense" then: in that industry, they have to use adrenchrome and all of that bc of the one they worship, so it is indeed the latter's menu.
And I hope I am wrong.

 

[Anonymous User]

I think that even if he wants to completely get out of the industry (which I'm not saying is the case cuz we don't know) it would be extremely difficult, not impossible but not easy.
Let's not forget he was in JYPE, THAT big agency who got big not by innocent means, but evil ones as we know, so can they set him free? Didn't he get programmed like the rest of the members? Also he has to know jype's truth, maybe not the real real one but more than what ordinary people know.

Tbh I didn't watch wj's videos after his departure nor do I even know if he released music or if he used any symbolism after he left but maybe, even if not excellent, this alternative might still be better than staying in JYPE, bc maybe he doesn't have a choice but to stay in the industry for now.

Don't forget that what I said are mere speculations, if u know smthg I don't, feel free to correct me.

I honestly feel like this situation isn't that deep, they had or wanted to sacrifice for more fame which is my assumption. To do so it makes sense to choose the member that's the least popular and you raised a very important point as to how difficult it is to escape the industry. If he's been in the system they need to keep an eye on him... oh wow this is starting to make sense. That's why he's still in the industry just not signed to a big label. I can't see him growing in fame much bigger as a solo than the original group. They achieved what they want while keeping him in the system

 

[Anonymous User]

I have a random question when they perform sacrifices or do these rituals do they forget after under the influence of drugs (or something else) or do they have an alter for doing these activities in which their handlers snap them out of it. I just thought how scary it is knowing what you just did and going to stage performing, smiling at fan meets like it’s all okay. I would go crazy so many times. I don’t think good acting can really suffice it all

 

[guesswho]

I honestly feel like this situation isn't that deep, they had or wanted to sacrifice for more fame which is my assumption. To do so it makes sense to choose the member that's the least popular and you raised a very important point as to how difficult it is to escape the industry. If he's been in the system they need to keep an eye on him... oh wow this is starting to make sense. That's why he's still in the industry just not signed to a big label. I can't see him growing in fame much bigger as a solo than the original group. They achieved what they want while keeping him in the system

oooooh I didn't think of that.
I think they also like to play with numbers cuz they could have kept him as well bc it still doesn't make sense to me. When he was in the group, I don't think fans were bothered by his presence, bc u know fans don't see any problem with groups they """stan""" so him staying would've neither added nor substracted anything (now we see there is a difference obvs, but when he was a member we would've never)

but I don't know

 

[guesswho]

I have a random question when they perform sacrifices or do these rituals do they forget after under the influence of drugs (or something else) or do they have an alter for doing these activities in which their handlers snap them out of it. I just thought how scary it is knowing what you just did and going to stage performing, smiling at fan meets like it’s all okay. I would go crazy so many times. I don’t think good acting can really suffice it all

We do know they have alters and each alter is separated by amnesia but what I don't know is if these ritual are done with the initial mind or an alter.

Torture of The Victim The basis for the success of the Monarch mind-control programming is that different personalities or personality parts called alters can be created who do not know each other, but who can take the body at different times. The amnesia walls that are built by traumas, form a protective shield of secrecy that protects the abusers from being found out, and prevents the front personalities who hold the body much of the time to know how their System of alters is being used.

-The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier

hope this is a reliable source

 

[Anonymous User]

We do know they have alters and each alter is separated by amnesia but what I don't know is if these ritual are done with the initial mind or an alter.


-The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier

hope this is a reliable source

Wowww...this is really crazy. The alter personalities is still mindblowing to me. An alter can do something where the core personality might not know, making it even hard to break out of the system. Maybe the ones that regret the most try to break out of the mind-controlling making them break down more. I sometimes wish I could do more to help these victims but the most I can do is help open people's eyes to see the truth

 

[guesswho]

Wowww...this is really crazy. The alter personalities is still mindblowing to me. An alter can do something where the core personality might not know, making it even hard to break out of the system. Maybe the ones that regret the most try to break out of the mind-controlling making them break down more. I sometimes wish I could do more to help these victims but the most I can do is help open people's eyes to see the truth

ikr the least we can do is spread awareness, at least by saying how companies are using these people-and shamelessly so- how corrupt they are etc... and that giving them money is very problematic (bc as we know money doesn't play a small role in their "thriving")

 

[Sun443]

Who do you guys think has a really different personality amongst them, I know they have alters but I’m curious about who acts really different in-front camera to me it’s fel*x idk why but he’s not the “sunshine “ he pretends to be I don’t see him as a nice person. That’s just my opinion. Also ofc ch4n, i kind of think m*nho acts the same off camera could be wrong tho.

 

[AmazingGrace]

I have a random question when they perform sacrifices or do these rituals do they forget after under the influence of drugs (or something else) or do they have an alter for doing these activities in which their handlers snap them out of it. I just thought how scary it is knowing what you just did and going to stage performing, smiling at fan meets like it’s all okay. I would go crazy so many times. I don’t think good acting can really suffice it all

I know this only from others, so I cannot say how real all this is. But one member of BT5 thread Bae Yeon Hee who is not active now, wrote he went to s@tanic rituals to rebel against God (I think he is a man, sorry if I'm wrong). He wrote that part of rituals was that he 'opened up' to demons, and there were times when he was partly possessed, and times when he was fully processed and those times he couldn't remember. Scary thing was he couldn't control it, and it happened several times, that he 'came back to himself' some place in the middle of a city I guess, confused how he got there. He also mentioned that he had no idea mind control like MK Ultra existed and probably never went through it. Another thing he mentioned is that it changed him a lot.

Yes several. my initiation included invoking the jezebel spirit. I took pictures the day before and the day after and had I not taken the pictures I would not have known it was me. The person in those pics were not me. My family didn't even know the pics were me. I went from reserved with high morals on sex to no moral all about the Do what thou wilt mindset. There are times I don't remember how I'd get somewhere. Friends asked wth happened to me being a goody goody to the polar opposite. I'm ashamed of myself for behaving that way. That was the first thing that changed just as drastically and fast when I surrendered my life back to Yeshua/Jesus.

It could be possible that it destroys ones conscience, and they don't feel guilty for what they do anymore - rituals, lying to fans, etc.

When I think about it, possession can maybe look similar to changing alters. If it actually isn't the same thing just achieved a different way. Demon possession probably doesn't have to look like in horror movies, if you talked with possessed person you maybe couldn't tell, only feel there's something not right. I don't know. After all I've heard people say bt5 have amazing stage presence and aura or how should I call it.

BTW R.M from bt5 said something along the lines, and now I'm strongly paraphrasing and I'm not sure if I remember it well, that when he got scared before going on stage, a man or something appeared before him and said it will be ok, and it possessed him. Some people also said they can see that beteeEs are under influence of spirits almost whole time during concerts. I didn't watch much of BT5 videos, but I've heard one time r.m hurt his ankle, could barely walk, and when he got to podium danced like nothing happened. It makes one wonder how. Well, maybe it wasn't him who moved his body... just sayin.

 

[swayy000]

Who do you guys think has a really different personality amongst them, I know they have alters but I’m curious about who acts really different in-front camera to me it’s fel*x idk why but he’s not the “sunshine “ he pretends to be I don’t see him as a nice person. That’s just my opinion. Also ofc ch4n, i kind of think m*nho acts the same off camera could be wrong tho.

to me personally i feel like hyunj1n probably has a really different personality from what is seen on the camera, especially after those accusations came out.

 

[Anonymous User]

Who do you guys think has a really different personality amongst them, I know they have alters but I’m curious about who acts really different in-front camera to me it’s fel*x idk why but he’s not the “sunshine “ he pretends to be I don’t see him as a nice person. That’s just my opinion. Also ofc ch4n, i kind of think m*nho acts the same off camera could be wrong tho.

It's hard to tell since I don't know them personally. However, the members themselves have talked about how BC is different and is "serious" off-camera. M1nho has talked about how his actual persona is different from how fans perceive it (sarcastic and witty remarks) and I feel H@n pushes it at times in terms of being playful

 

[wow]

I have a random question when they perform sacrifices or do these rituals do they forget after under the influence of drugs (or something else) or do they have an alter for doing these activities in which their handlers snap them out of it. I just thought how scary it is knowing what you just did and going to stage performing, smiling at fan meets like it’s all okay. I would go crazy so many times. I don’t think good acting can really suffice it all

i think some can be sober in order for the ritual to work, or possessed, i do read somewhere that there are alters who is made to make the rituals stronger tho.

I know this only from others, so I cannot say how real all this is. But one member of BT5 thread Bae Yeon Hee who is not active now, wrote he went to s@tanic rituals to rebel against God (I think he is a man, sorry if I'm wrong). He wrote that part of rituals was that he 'opened up' to demons, and there were times when he was partly possessed, and times when he was fully processed and those times he couldn't remember. Scary thing was he couldn't control it, and it happened several times, that he 'came back to himself' some place in the middle of a city I guess, confused how he got there. He also mentioned that he had no idea mind control like MK Ultra existed and probably never went through it. Another thing he mentioned is that it changed him a lot.

It could be possible that it destroys ones conscience, and they don't feel guilty for what they do anymore - rituals, lying to fans, etc.

When I think about it, possession can maybe look similar to changing alters. If it actually isn't the same thing just achieved a different way. Demon possession probably doesn't have to look like in horror movies, if you talked with possessed person you maybe couldn't tell, only feel there's something not right. I don't know. After all I've heard people say bt5 have amazing stage presence and aura or how should I call it.

BTW R.M from bt5 said something along the lines, and now I'm strongly paraphrasing and I'm not sure if I remember it well, that when he got scared before going on stage, a man or something appeared before him and said it will be ok, and it possessed him. Some people also said they can see that beteeEs are under influence of spirits almost whole time during concerts. I didn't watch much of BT5 videos, but I've heard one time r.m hurt his ankle, could barely walk, and when he got to podium danced like nothing happened. It makes one wonder how. Well, maybe it wasn't him who moved his body... just sayin.

i remember them.
i agree on the desentized part, maybe they are used to it and acts so naturally because its what they usually do and what they have to do, look at these western celebs for example, we know well they participate in the most disgusting rituals yet they act okay like it never existed, it could be that they are desentized or forget about it, but once you go to the industry where you keep doing rituals over and over again, im sure you are completely sober, r!m proved that, he was sober and aware when those spirits posessed him.

 

[wow]

It's hard to tell since I don't know them personally. However, the members themselves have talked about how BC is different and is "serious" off-camera. M1nho has talked about how his actual persona is different from how fans perceive it (sarcastic and witty remarks) and I feel H@n pushes it at times in terms of being playful

theyre all seem fake to me, its like their personalities has been made by the company, its so manufactured

 

[swayy000]

I know this only from others, so I cannot say how real all this is. But one member of BT5 thread Bae Yeon Hee who is not active now, wrote he went to s@tanic rituals to rebel against God (I think he is a man, sorry if I'm wrong). He wrote that part of rituals was that he 'opened up' to demons, and there were times when he was partly possessed, and times when he was fully processed and those times he couldn't remember. Scary thing was he couldn't control it, and it happened several times, that he 'came back to himself' some place in the middle of a city I guess, confused how he got there. He also mentioned that he had no idea mind control like MK Ultra existed and probably never went through it. Another thing he mentioned is that it changed him a lot.

It could be possible that it destroys ones conscience, and they don't feel guilty for what they do anymore - rituals, lying to fans, etc.

When I think about it, possession can maybe look similar to changing alters. If it actually isn't the same thing just achieved a different way. Demon possession probably doesn't have to look like in horror movies, if you talked with possessed person you maybe couldn't tell, only feel there's something not right. I don't know. After all I've heard people say bt5 have amazing stage presence and aura or how should I call it.

BTW R.M from bt5 said something along the lines, and now I'm strongly paraphrasing and I'm not sure if I remember it well, that when he got scared before going on stage, a man or something appeared before him and said it will be ok, and it possessed him. Some people also said they can see that beteeEs are under influence of spirits almost whole time during concerts. I didn't watch much of BT5 videos, but I've heard one time r.m hurt his ankle, could barely walk, and when he got to podium danced like nothing happened. It makes one wonder how. Well, maybe it wasn't him who moved his body... just sayin.

Woahh r.m once said that??? If you ever find it could you show me? It reminds me of one video I saw from yt channel servants of christ who said that singer i u said a ghost or spirit came up to her to hug her one time when she was shooting an mv. I also got from that video that bang pedo said he had a spirit living inside him, and she inspires him and his motive for his work is anger. He definitely had to or still is involved in some satanic or occult ritual for that to happen.
I've always felt like bt5 may be demon possessed. One youtuber who was analyzing the weeknds superbowl performance and Madonna's past concerts said that most of these performances that you see celebrities doing aren't just concerts, but rituals that are actually happening right in front of you. I think in one bt5 concert there was a masonic symbol on the big screen that quickly flashed. Also In one concert from the weeknd, while he was singing, the word satan quickly flashed on the screen and the crowd suddenly started cheering like crazy...

-oh wait is that part about r.m in the Festa video?

 

[swayy000]

i think some can be sober in order for the ritual to work, or possessed, i do read somewhere that there are alters who is made to make the rituals stronger tho.


i remember them.
i agree on the desentized part, maybe they are used to it and acts so naturally because its what they usually do and what they have to do, look at these western celebs for example, we know well they participate in the most disgusting rituals yet they act okay like it never existed, it could be that they are desentized or forget about it, but once you go to the industry where you keep doing rituals over and over again, im sure you are completely sober, r!m proved that, he was sober and aware when those spirits posessed him.

Yeah one person from the Billie Eilish thread posted a leaked video of Angelina Jolie talking to some of her coworkers about a satanic ritual she attended. It was so creepy. It's sad too bc I used to watch alot of her movies

 

[guesswho]

theyre all seem fake to me, its like their personalities has been made by the company, its so manufactured

someone pointed out how they (a big number of their fans probably) could exactly tell which member would do what.
I don't know how to explain it but it means it is indeed manufactured in a way that you won't say "this member has no personality" smthg along those lines, it's kinda like in animes

and I know I said it a million times but it is an attraction strategy hence the loyalty of their fans bc their inside jokes never end + even the group uses them
they even made a "huge deal" out of being the youngest member

 

[AmazingGrace]

Woahh r.m once said that??? If you ever find it could you show me? It reminds me of one video I saw from yt channel servants of christ who said that singer i u said a ghost or spirit came up to her to hug her one time when she was shooting an mv. I also got from that video that bang pedo said he had a spirit living inside him, and she inspires him and his motive for his work is anger. He definitely had to or still is involved in some satanic or occult ritual for that to happen.
I've always felt like bt5 may be demon possessed. One youtuber who was analyzing the weeknds superbowl performance and Madonna's past concerts said that most of these performances that you see celebrities doing aren't just concerts, but rituals that are actually happening right in front of you. I think in one bt5 concert there was a masonic symbol on the big screen that quickly flashed. Also In one concert from the weeknd, while he was singing, the word satan quickly flashed on the screen and the crowd suddenly started cheering like crazy...

-oh wait is that part about r.m in the Festa video?

Yop, it's the video, it should start to play where he talks about it. The translation is a bit weird, translator probably wasn't sure what to think about it and translating isn't always easy. I understand it the way that his spirit left his body and some other spirit took control. Or something like that.
I also know the Servants of Christ YT channel and watched the video about k-pop and found interview about band p.d on internet to check what she talked about, because at that time it was hard for me to believe. I put it into translator, and yeah, she was telling truth.
You're right about concerts being rituals and the symbols used, in BT5 thread there are several photos of their concerts with eg triangles, one eye or spiral portals behind them on big screen.