SKZ Discussion Thread

[wow]

let's start with woojin, I still this guy is innocent, if he really assaulted people he would have been blacklisted. do you think 10x entertainment would have recruited him if the rumors were right? I think Jyp were preparing to make stray kids bigger, and they realized the group will be more popular without him so they kicked him out. I think he was treated poorly by the company too. I remember watching an old vlive and woojin was trying to get a bit closer to felix to read vlive comments and felix looked at him like he was a creep.

exactly, i see wj more as the victim, he is totally misunderstood by the media and they done it on purpose.

everytime I listen to gods menu I feel sick to the core, the song is simply about blood sacrifices, or idk, them sacrificing themselves for the elite. you can see them cooking rose petals in the kitchen and rose symbolizes a******chrome...

wait im sorry what is the censored word? im not a native english speaker haha, but yeah the whole song is disturbing on so many levels and thats where they get more recognitions from, ever since the god's menu era.

maybe 3racha take place in the writing and producing but be sure that they're not doing it by themselves, a simple click on "credits" when you listen to their songs on spotify will show you that other producers are involved, besides, they need to practice dancing and recording and filming... I don't think they have that much time to actually prepare the music aswell.

yes, they do work with a lot of producers, and it varies??? like they never settle for one producer to help them out, for example (notice the arrangers) :

gods menu
Lyrics/작사: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 베르사최 (VERSACHOI)
Arranger/편곡: 베르사최 (VERSACHOI)

all in
Lyrics/작사: 박진영, 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈 Changbin(3RACHA),
한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 박진영, 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA),
창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Arranger/편곡: 박진영, 이해솔

miroh
Lyrics/작사: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬 Bang Chab(3RACHA), 창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), Brian Atwood
Arranger/편곡: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), Brian Atwood

back door
Lyrics/작사: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA),
한Han (3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA),
한 Han(3RACHA), HotSauce
Arranger/편곡: HotSauce, 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA)

i am you
Lyrics/작사: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA),
이우민 ‘Collapsedone’, Justin Reinstein, KZ, 제네 더 질라(ZENE THE ZILLA)
Arranger/편곡: 이우민 ‘Collapsedone’, Justin Reinstein

hellevator
Lyrics/작사: 아르마딜로, 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA),
창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 아르마딜로, 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA),
창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 랑가
Arranger/편곡: 아르마딜로, 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 랑가

side effects
Lyrics/작사: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 탁 (TAK), 원택 (1 Take)
Arranger/편곡: 탁 (TAK), 원택 (1 Take)

levanter
Lyrics/작사: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA),
박진영, 헤르쯔 아날로그 (Herz Analog)
Composer/작곡: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 홍지상
Arranger/편곡: 홍지상

and the list goes on.

they never settle in for one producer and i just think thats weird because normally if they have producers helping them, they would settle in for that producer, for example bt5 has pd0gg, supr3me b0i,and their ceo helping them to produce most of their songs to help nj produce also, and their name is in every music bt5 has done but for skz they never settle in for one fixated producer except sriracha :/

but the whole "chan did everything" is weird to me like either is family is super rich or involved or idk... I think there are secrets we will never know. Also Felix promoting the WHO organizations gave me the creeps bc we all now what happens to all these children they pretend to take care of. I heard seungmin is super rich... felix too... and we didn't even see half of their family members? not that I care but why are they hiding lmao..

lmaoo ikr? i remember bc said in a live where a fan said "bc rich" and he said "im not rich, im struggling to help my family back in korea" and i was like L I E S LMAOOO the members literally said that he is the richest among them all because when they were a trainee and even up until now he treats the members with a lot of food and he is a producer???? he along with sriracha makes the most money like wtf lmaoo he wants us to think they got paid minimum wage in a big 3 company, becoming an idol with all the fame and money an average normal person could only imagine, im doneeeee lmao and st4ys literally believed that sksjsksk.

i wish the members would say a lot more about their lives tho, all we get is bc's vlives every sunday to get a little insight about them, but gotta thank him for being almost open to say anything.

I think the "my parents didnt want me to become and idol" in some cases is a lie it could even be the opposite, they might be the ones pushing them to do it idk...

yea, fl never really talked about his parents, we could never know whats going on in their private lives but i think fl has some serious stuff going on with him and his family, even when they go to australia they only visited bc's family and not fl's, like somethings wrong.

 

[Anonymous User]

lmaoo ikr? i remember bc said in a live where a fan said "bc rich" and he said "im not rich, im struggling to help my family back in korea" and i was like L I E S LMAOOO the members literally said that he is the richest among them all because when they were a trainee and even up until now he treats the members with a lot of food and he is a producer???? he along with sriracha makes the most money like wtf lmaoo he wants us to think they got paid minimum wage in a big 3 company, becoming an idol with all the fame and money an average normal person could only imagine, im doneeeee lmao and st4ys literally believed that sksjsksk.

Here's a video of BC's house in Australia, the house will speak for itself

 

[wow]

Here's a video of BC's house in Australia, the house will speak for itself

his house screams privileged crazy rich asians that just moved to australia.

and honestly, i fell for it for a moment when he said he is struggling financially, like he had me in the first half ngl, he is THAT good at lying, his facial expressions,his voice tone, and his eye movements are just very normal and natural to the point where its scary (he does have said that he was gonna be an actor starring in h2o before he became an idol so that just proves it), from my experience on bt5, their acting is soooo easy to spot to the point where its cringey and painful to watch but not with skz, theyre literally so damn good at acting, we should not take this lightly.

edit : and if they do get treated poorly and didnt get money and all the money goes to the company, bc would get in hella trouble for saying he is struggling financially. besides, his parents house already screams "rich" before he got his checks anyways

 

[queen82]

exactly, i see wj more as the victim, he is totally misunderstood by the media and they done it on purpose.



wait im sorry what is the censored word? im not a native english speaker haha, but yeah the whole song is disturbing on so many levels and thats where they get more recognitions from, ever since the god's menu era.


yes, they do work with a lot of producers, and it varies??? like they never settle for one producer to help them out, for example (notice the arrangers) :

gods menu
Lyrics/작사: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 베르사최 (VERSACHOI)
Arranger/편곡: 베르사최 (VERSACHOI)

all in
Lyrics/작사: 박진영, 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈 Changbin(3RACHA),
한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 박진영, 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA),
창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Arranger/편곡: 박진영, 이해솔

miroh
Lyrics/작사: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬 Bang Chab(3RACHA), 창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), Brian Atwood
Arranger/편곡: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), Brian Atwood

back door
Lyrics/작사: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA),
한Han (3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA),
한 Han(3RACHA), HotSauce
Arranger/편곡: HotSauce, 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA)

i am you
Lyrics/작사: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA),
이우민 ‘Collapsedone’, Justin Reinstein, KZ, 제네 더 질라(ZENE THE ZILLA)
Arranger/편곡: 이우민 ‘Collapsedone’, Justin Reinstein

hellevator
Lyrics/작사: 아르마딜로, 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA),
창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 아르마딜로, 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA),
창빈 Changbin(3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 랑가
Arranger/편곡: 아르마딜로, 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 랑가

side effects
Lyrics/작사: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA)
Composer/작곡: 방찬 Bang Chan(3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 탁 (TAK), 원택 (1 Take)
Arranger/편곡: 탁 (TAK), 원택 (1 Take)

levanter
Lyrics/작사: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한 Han(3RACHA),
박진영, 헤르쯔 아날로그 (Herz Analog)
Composer/작곡: 방찬Bang Chan (3RACHA), 창빈Changbin (3RACHA), 한Han (3RACHA), 홍지상
Arranger/편곡: 홍지상

and the list goes on.

they never settle in for one producer and i just think thats weird because normally if they have producers helping them, they would settle in for that producer, for example bt5 has pd0gg, supr3me b0i,and their ceo helping them to produce most of their songs to help nj produce also, and their name is in every music bt5 has done but for skz they never settle in for one fixated producer except sriracha :/



lmaoo ikr? i remember bc said in a live where a fan said "bc rich" and he said "im not rich, im struggling to help my family back in korea" and i was like L I E S LMAOOO the members literally said that he is the richest among them all because when they were a trainee and even up until now he treats the members with a lot of food and he is a producer???? he along with sriracha makes the most money like wtf lmaoo he wants us to think they got paid minimum wage in a big 3 company, becoming an idol with all the fame and money an average normal person could only imagine, im doneeeee lmao and st4ys literally believed that sksjsksk.

i wish the members would say a lot more about their lives tho, all we get is bc's vlives every sunday to get a little insight about them, but gotta thank him for being almost open to say anything.


yea, fl never really talked about his parents, we could never know whats going on in their private lives but i think fl has some serious stuff going on with him and his family, even when they go to australia they only visited bc's family and not fl's, like somethings wrong.

i repeat that Woojin was kicked out from the group, because he didn't want follow their rules

 

[swayy000]

Here's a video of BC's house in Australia, the house will speak for itself

She cooked a whole buffet

 

[swayy000]

his house screams privileged crazy rich asians that just moved to australia.

and honestly, i fell for it for a moment when he said he is struggling financially, like he had me in the first half ngl, he is THAT good at lying, his facial expressions,his voice tone, and his eye movements are just very normal and natural to the point where its scary (he does have said that he was gonna be an actor starring in h2o before he became an idol so that just proves it), from my experience on bt5, their acting is soooo easy to spot to the point where its cringey and painful to watch but not with skz, theyre literally so damn good at acting, we should not take this lightly.

Although some choose to become idols bc of talent, could others just choose also bc they don't want to work?

 

[wow]

She cooked a whole buffet

she is a 5 star michelin

Although some choose to become idols bc of talent, could others just choose also bc they don't want to work?

i think its an individual thing, there are too many circumstances of how and why they became an idol

 

[Sun443]

for wj I don’t know him well and I knew 5kz after he left but I remember seeing a video where they were doing live and bc said there is someone missing and laughed about it and sm reaction was so obvious and he were shook and confused. And there is one time where they were getting an award and hj pushed wj and thinking about it now maybe hj is actually a bully.

You can see the video of hj pushing him in 0:25

 

[Sun443]

for wj I don’t know him well and I knew 5kz after he left but I remember seeing a video where they were doing live and bc said there is someone missing and laughed about it and sm reaction was so obvious and he were shook and confused. And there is one time where they were getting an award and hj pushed wj and thinking about it now maybe hj is actually a bully.

You can see the video of hj pushing him in 0:25

Lmao the one who made the vid is referring to wj as abully while hj is the one pushing him ?!

 

[Anonymous User]

and honestly, i fell for it for a moment when he said he is struggling financially, like he had me in the first half ngl, he is THAT good at lying, his facial expressions,his voice tone, and his eye movements are just very normal and natural to the point where its scary (he does have said that he was gonna be an actor starring in h2o before he became an idol so that just proves it), from my experience on bt5, their acting is soooo easy to spot to the point where its cringey and painful to watch but not with skz, theyre literally so damn good at acting, we should not take this lightly.

They had me too especially with BC since he shows his persona weekly on vlives, I would have no problem if they were in the acting industry, they're so good at acting it scares me and people just fall for it

 

[swayy000]

They had me too especially with BC since he shows his persona weekly on vlives, I would have no problem if they were in the acting industry, they're so good at acting it scares me and people just fall for it

Ngl I had a small crush on bangchan and felix when I would watch their videos bc of their aussie accent and how goofy they were. They had me in the first half lolll

 

[Anonymous User]

Ngl I had a small crush on bangchan and felix when I would watch their videos bc of their aussie accent and how goofy they were. They had me in the first half lolll
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I feel you girl, but not anymore xD

 

[dreamerforlife]

for wj I don’t know him well and I knew 5kz after he left but I remember seeing a video where they were doing live and bc said there is someone missing and laughed about it and sm reaction was so obvious and he were shook and confused. And there is one time where they were getting an award and hj pushed wj and thinking about it now maybe hj is actually a bully.

You can see the video of hj pushing him in 0:25

this fandom is full of shallow hypocrites who only care about the outside and beauty, it was convenient for them to cancel woojin with no mercy without even trying to do a tiny bit of research but they denied hyunjin being bully without even blinking when there are actually a few victims?? even jyp didn't deny it. I'm not trying to hate on hyunjin but this fandom is so disappointing and delulu

 

[somewhat_yuna]

this fandom is full of shallow hypocrites who only care about the outside and beauty, it was convenient for them to cancel woojin with no mercy without even trying to do a tiny bit of research but they denied hyunjin being bully without even blinking when there are actually a few victims?? even jyp didn't deny it. I'm not trying to hate on hyunjin but this fandom is so disappointing and delulu

white stays are the most stupid and annoying ppl you will ever meet. they never fail to gaslight the poc stays and have the brain of a 3 month old baby. all they care about is stray kids and they never fail to defend hyunjin's blackface.

 

[wow]

white stays are the most stupid and annoying ppl you will ever meet. they never fail to gaslight the poc stays and have the brain of a 3 month old baby. all they care about is stray kids and they never fail to defend hyunjin's blackface.

wait, he did what???

this fandom is full of shallow hypocrites who only care about the outside and beauty, it was convenient for them to cancel woojin with no mercy without even trying to do a tiny bit of research but they denied hyunjin being bully without even blinking when there are actually a few victims?? even jyp didn't deny it. I'm not trying to hate on hyunjin but this fandom is so disappointing and delulu

preach, they are starting to become like 4rmys, they annoy the hell out of me

 

[swayy000]

white stays are the most stupid and annoying ppl you will ever meet. they never fail to gaslight the poc stays and have the brain of a 3 month old baby. all they care about is stray kids and they never fail to defend hyunjin's blackface.

I remember seeing a video on that. I'm still surprised how he thought it was a good idea to do that. Didn't bc write the apology too, not hj himself??
I bet most of these idols are racist. I remember watching a video where namj00n said once to jk since he didnt put on sunscreen, he would look like Michol the racist black cartoon caricature .I don't think he's even addressed or apologized for that along with some other racist things him or the other members have said.

 

[wow]

I remember seeing a video on that. I'm still surprised how he thought it was a good idea to do that. Didn't bc write the apology too, not hj himself??
I bet most of these idols are racist. I remember watching a video where namj00n said once to jk since he didnt put on sunscreen, he would look like Michol the racist black cartoon caricature .I don't think he's even addressed or apologized for that along with some other racist things him or the other members have said.

can you send me the video and the apology letter? i have no idea about the black face, all i know about their racism are hn's lyrics saying the slur and bc's blackfishing with the "black" hairstyle (but i think the stylists should get the same amount of backlash), i didnt know hj did a blackface, thats messed up.

also yeah, i do think these idols are racist, theyre just very good at hiding it, and since in south korea being black or dark skinned is considered ugly and having fair skin is a beauty standard, thats why people there literally cant go outside without a lot of sunscreen layered on their face, sk is one toxic country.

 

[wow]

i want to share my thoughts about fel, i feel like he has some really dark issues surrounding him.

(DISCLAIMER : these are all just assumptions)

lets start with his ps allegations



sadly, i cant find the tiktok video where the surgeon talked about his ps because i think st4ys took it down or report it but if you guys could find it, pls do share.
now im no expert so i wouldnt say he has ED, but him telling the fans how to lose weight and saying that fruit makes you gain weight is just very triggering for some people who have ED, he also has starved himself a lot and he said he does it for the group (?) like the boys dont care about him starving or what? he also talked about how he wants a buff body but the he goes on an extreme diet, idk if the company made him do that but its really serious, he is the lightest among the members, i think he only weights 52 kg (im not sure) but with their intense schedule, you need a lot of stamina and him not eating properly is just very bad, i think him being obsessed with dieting also has to do with his mental health, but pls dont take this the wrong way, these are all just my assumptions.

next, lets talk about his family

i remember in 2 kids room with him and cb, fel talked about how his parents are not satisfied with his dreams and cb asked "are they satisfied now?" and fel said "they always wants me to go higher" which is EXREMELY toxic for parents to say, esp after knowing their kid is a literal worldwide famous idol, a normal parent would at least be proud cause they getting loans lmao, but apparently its not enough for them?? now i dont know anything that goes on his childhood and his household back in australia but i feel like fel left australia and moved to korea to become an idol just to escape his toxic parents, thats why the parents never approved of it as well.

there are also pics of his hands having scars and it looks like self harm, he also pushes his sleeves up to the middle of his fore arm which then hides the most obvious scars. in general he seems to have his arms covered a lot, he said it was just scars from his childhood but it looks a lot like self harm scars

 

[queen82]

for wj I don’t know him well and I knew 5kz after he left but I remember seeing a video where they were doing live and bc said there is someone missing and laughed about it and sm reaction was so obvious and he were shook and confused. And there is one time where they were getting an award and hj pushed wj and thinking about it now maybe hj is actually a bully.

You can see the video of hj pushing him in 0:25

by this video it seems that he was the one that was bullied not the bully

 

[queen82]

white stays are the most stupid and annoying ppl you will ever meet. they never fail to gaslight the poc stays and have the brain of a 3 month old baby. all they care about is stray kids and they never fail to defend hyunjin's blackface.

Army are the same