The American “Coup d’etat”

[Artful Revealer]

Just to clarify, it cannot possibly ever be a first amendment issue unless it’s on a publicly-owned website. Social media etc are privately-owned.

I understand, but the question is if these privately-owned platforms deserve that privilege if they’re going to abuse it.

 

[vancityeagle]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet">
I&#39;ve been saying for months
LOCKDOWN election
was to produce chaos, violence &amp; #CivilWar

I refused to cover Alex&#39;s antics in previous DC trip

Yet another reason he fired me
Yet another reason I&#39;m glad I&#39;m gone

Fight for YOUR job, YOUR freedom locally
No solution in DC
&mdash; David Knight (@libertytarian) January 6, 2021

 

[vancityeagle]

Wrong on both, Spencer’s analysis is essentially the same as yours, not a word of a lie, and that these people will be railroaded 10x harder than the Charlottesville people, which was pretty hard. It was a pretty good stream and I don’t usually like spencer.Adam green I haven’t watched the whole stream yet, but that this is playing into the zionist hands, q is a Zionist trap etc.

I was essentially right on Adam Green's analysis, but it was surprisingly more nuanced and balanced than I would have given him credit for. Actually our analysis is virtually the same. So when some right winger is saying what I have been saying, all of a sudden you will listen ?

I listened to him and he is essentially saying like I have been that

a) These Trumpers are idiots for fighting for a Zionist stooge
b) the Trump movement (Qanon, Alex JOnes, Proud BOys) are all stooges of Zionism
c) both sides of the spectrum can be manipulated to violence
d) team Trump played MAGA and SET THEM UP
E) Biden admin will use this event to further their agenda (But MAGA is stupid for handing them this gift)

Now my only difference with Adam Green is that I am still considering the possibility that this was more than just a bunch of unorganized, crazed mob, and that there may have been a more organized element among them with specific goals (coup, hostage takeover, stolen files equipment etc.)

Also Green's fatal flaw is to call out the Zio controlled faux "populism" yet not realize that his own white nationalist movement basically plays the very same role as the Alex Jones' and co. by playing into the divide and conquer game, the so called "clash of civilizations", and inciting fear and hatred amongst his listeners. Only difference is he calls out Israel while using the same rhetoric and tactics to play into the divide.

I covered this in my thread about "leftists being infiltrated by fascists" and I named it the Paleocon/Neocon split.

But the Paleocons are also split between the pro-Zionist paleocons (Alex Jones, Breitbart) and the anti-Zionist paleocons (Adam Green, Ryan Dawson)

it doesn’t but the fact that she’s now essentially a chair person for blm is the crux.
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[Artful Revealer]

Ouch. FBI declassified 284 pages on Pelosi’s family. Her brother was the only one of twelve to be acquitted of gang-r*pe accusations of an 11 and 13-year old girl because of his and Nancy’s father’s connections with the mob.

Thomas D' Alesandro Jr. Part 01 of 01

vault.fbi.gov

That why Nancy’s losing it?

 

[lightseeker]

So when some right winger is saying what I have been saying, all of a sudden you will listen ?

Yeah because he doesn’t call me a clown fool nazi when he’s speaking to me. how can anyone converse with you when you do this.

Also Green's fatal flaw is to call out the Zio controlled faux "populism" yet not realize that his own white nationalist movement

Adam green is extremely loosely associated to those movements. I’d never heard him mention race in a couple years of listening until we were a few months into the blm riots and it couldn’t be ignored. The initial point of his channel was to expose Alex Jones and then it grew to exposing zionism more broadly

 

[Artful Revealer]

Adam Green is politically and spiritually immature. He’s basically where I was 10 years ago when I wrote about Chabad, the Temple Project and Noahide Law. It’s good that he’s highlighting those aspects, but he, like some folk here in this thread, has no concept of realpolitik.

 

[Faker He-Man]

I understand, but the question is if these privately-owned platforms deserve that privilege if they’re going to abuse it.

It sure didn’t seem to me that you actually understand the first amendment. Section 230 covers the entire internet equally, as it should. There aren’t any exceptions. Without section 230 these tech companies would still be able to delete whatever they please simply because they’re not government-owned, and the only difference is that they would be held liable for all third-party content. This would mean that these sites would have to be even more restrictive on what they allow and don’t allow to be posted by third-parties. They would have to be extra careful and have stricter rules governing content if they were constantly trying to avoid litigation.

 

[Artful Revealer]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet">
I&#39;ve been saying for months
LOCKDOWN election
was to produce chaos, violence &amp; #CivilWar

I refused to cover Alex&#39;s antics in previous DC trip

Yet another reason he fired me
Yet another reason I&#39;m glad I&#39;m gone

Fight for YOUR job, YOUR freedom locally
No solution in DC
&mdash; David Knight (@libertytarian) January 6, 2021

Adam Knight says the election was stolen without a doubt. Not sure why you’re citing him with regards Alex Jones.

 

[Artful Revealer]

It sure didn’t seem to me that you actually understand the first amendment. Section 230 covers the entire internet equally, as it should. There aren’t any exceptions. Without section 230 these tech companies would still be able to delete whatever they please simply because they’re not government-owned, and the only difference would be that they would be held liable for all third-party content. This would mean that these sites would have to be even more restrictive on what they allow and don’t allow to be posted by third-parties. They would have to be extra careful and have stricter rules governing content if they were constantly trying to avoid litigation.

Yeah, that’s true. That’s why I’m of the opinion to strip them of that protection, if only to realise how comfortable they had it compared to what it would be without it.

That or adapt Section 230.

 

[justjess]

Adam Green is politically and spiritually immature. He’s basically where I was 10 years ago when I wrote about Chabad, the Temple Project and Noahide Law. It’s good that he’s highlighting those aspects, but he, like some folk here in this thread, has no concept of realpolitik.

Only you with your secret gnostic q wisdom have any real insight into anything huh? Everyone else is a spiritually immature pleeb. Ain’t that right?

trump has had those laptops for days now. Where’s the revelation? Has a single q prophecy even come to fruition?

 

[Faker He-Man]

Yeah, that’s true. That’s why I’m of the opinion to strip them of that protection, if only to realise how comfortable they had it compared to what it would be without it.

That or adapt Section 230.

There is already a set legal precedent, though. Hopefully now you have a better grasp of first amendment protections and at least understand how Poland’s policy is actually unconstitutional in the U.S. It would be 100% against the first amendment- the very same one that guarantees freedom of speech. .

 

[justjess]

So why did the Capitol police officer off himself? Or did he actually kill himself? Maybe he was murdered. His dad used to be the sergeant of arms of the Capitol police. His family has a long history there and probably a lot of friends and a lot of blackmail going both directions.

two officers have been suspended another 10-15 under investigation. I guarantee there is more to see looking down this path then some last minute prayer all will be solved by a unsecured laptop.

 

[justjess]

Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf resigns

Chad Wolf is resigning as the acting secretary of Homeland Security, he said in a letter to the department Monday obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

1 member of law enforcement arrested, 2 suspended over conduct during Capitol attack

One member of law enforcement was arrested and two Capitol Police officers were suspended for their behavior during the Wednesday insurrection at the Capitol, according to Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohi…

thehill.com

Death of Capitol Police Officer 3 Days After Riots Was by Suicide, Family Says

The family of Howard Liebengood, Jr., who was working the day insurgents stormed the Capitol, is grieving his loss after he died by suicide Sunday

people.com

Hmm

 

[lightseeker]

I’m going to guess what happened real time, is that they evacuated the congress into their tunnels, which they can probably do in under 5 minutes, and then they opened the valve a bit and let some people in for photo ops

 

[Artful Revealer]

Only you with your secret gnostic q wisdom have any real insight into anything huh? Everyone else is a spiritually immature pleeb. Ain’t that right?

trump has had those laptops for days now. Where’s the revelation? Has a single q prophecy even come to fruition?

Nope, you’re the one who has figured everything out and was trying to warn everybody, right?

 

[justjess]

I’m going to guess what happened real time, is that they evacuated the congress into their tunnels, which they can probably do in under 5 minutes, and then they opened the valve a bit and let some people in for photo ops

From all reports they were unable to get to the tunnels until the fbi team showed up and cleared a path about an hour in. Could be lying but could be telling the truth as well.

 

[justjess]

Nope, you’re the one who has figured everything out and was trying to warn everybody, right?

I did warn you. I didn’t figure anything out though, I just listened to what people were actually saying and took them at their word. There is a flyer going around about armed protests in every state this Sunday. The chatter is violent. It’s all available for you to see - are you going to pay attention this time?

 

[Artful Revealer]

There is already a set legal precedent, though. Hopefully now you have a better grasp of first amendment protections and at least understand how Poland’s policy is actually unconstitutional in the U.S. It would be 100% against the first amendment- the very same one that guarantees freedom of speech. .

Got it. Still support Poland’s move though.

 

[Artful Revealer]

I did warn you. I didn’t figure anything out though, I just listened to what people were actually saying and took them at their word. There is a flyer going around about armed protests in every state this Sunday. The chatter is violent. It’s all available for you to see - are you going to pay attention this time?

Oh, for the love of, does it look like I care about social media talk and some violence compared to a stolen election? I already told you what I think about your hierarchy of things to worry or complain about.

 

[Artful Revealer]

True.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1348775272724758529