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I read 89 pages of this thread with opinions and theories,and i am a little confused for the demons part and these kind of stuffs...i heard and i saw in a video heavy words like there is no salvation for these people and they will loose their souls...
I wonder if people who said it have a knowledge to know exactly what happen to soul and how soul are...why these adfirmations like it is sure 100% that these people are completely evil and lost ?Did you have prouve for these words?Do you know what these people have in their heart and soul?
If you show me you have i will admit...but if these strict strong words are only opinions these are "opinions",not facts,and i don't think spread these type of infos is useful for people who wants to find the truth,also because illuminati use the strategy to create a problem and find a solution,the hegelian dialectic about synthesis and anthitesys.
Have opinions and tell about occult stuff is good...but not radical opinions without prouves that could scare people.Fear is not knowledge.Fear is a weapon.
Bring me the prouves that things are in this way.I like when someone explains these things in a proper way but if someone scares me without explaining why i have to believe to these words i feel uncomfortable ,confused and shocked.
Sorry for my unpopular opinion.
Ahaha don’t worry I can assure you it’s not an unpopular opinion. The thing is with this yes we don’t know what is in their heart and soul but when they sell out they are kind of asking for it, unless they were born into it and if they were then it is close to impossible that they can ever leave the occult. Also we all believe that if they repent then they will be saved, however looking at where they are now and their status what do you think are the chances that they will be able to leave this industry and live a “normal” life and let’s say they do like they leave the industry, all these years of abuse and practices of the occult will never leave them especially the mk ultra they’ve gone through, that sticks with you forever. Let me give you an example like everyone remembers they were bullied right or that one time they had a fight and got beaten up, the literal same is for these victims except they’ve been through sooo much more and it’s been very severe for them, most since childhood aswell! But they can have good hearts but without God they can’t be saved. Hope this makes sense :)
 

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I read 89 pages of this thread with opinions and theories,and i am a little confused for the demons part and these kind of stuffs...i heard and i saw in a video heavy words like there is no salvation for these people and they will loose their souls...
I wonder if people who said it have a knowledge to know exactly what happen to soul and how soul are...why these adfirmations like it is sure 100% that these people are completely evil and lost ?Did you have prouve for these words?Do you know what these people have in their heart and soul?
If you show me you have i will admit...but if these strict strong words are only opinions these are "opinions",not facts,and i don't think spread these type of infos is useful for people who wants to find the truth,also because illuminati use the strategy to create a problem and find a solution,the hegelian dialectic about synthesis and anthitesys.
Have opinions and tell about occult stuff is good...but not radical opinions without prouves that could scare people.Fear is not knowledge.Fear is a weapon.
Bring me the prouves that things are in this way.I like when someone explains these things in a proper way but if someone scares me without explaining why i have to believe to these words i feel uncomfortable ,confused and shocked.
Sorry for my unpopular opinion.
Signing a devilish contract twice isn’t something everyone can do. They hit the jackpot at the time they signed with bighit again, meaning they were just greedy for more fame and money. They had the chance to break free but they chose to stay in this for another 7 years thing that is really telling a lot.
Truth is that we barely know what happens behind the scenes. We just know that they most of the times are actors, and that they are definitely part of the industry and not victims of it since it’s been so long they came in. There is no point in having pity for people that couldn’t care less about their fans life and souls.
But even tho it’s obvious to me they are hopeless, I prefer not to judge them til the end. It’s true only God knows what’s truly in someone’s heart, but somebody’s salvation isn’t easy. And if they are not willing to do anything about it there aren’t many chances they will ever change.
Best is to only analyze the symbolism but never hate the artist no matter how much we despise their mentality and actions. We do it for our self knowledge and just so that we know how to protect ourselves and people we care about. We don’t know indeed an idol’s life story so it’s better to keep it lowkey and eventually just give up the slightest thinking and caring about them. There is no point in caring about somebody you don’t really know in real life. So keep it mind everything you learn here is for your own protection and awareness. The best would be to just avoid their music for good and if you keep listening to music just make sure you filter it well because it might become a very dangerous influencer for you.
 
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Trigger Warning: Skip if you don't like unpopular opinion.
@Lachimolala is right on many levels and I endorse everything she said. We should look for good instead of bad in life inorder to remain positive and find happiness in this otherwise evil unfair world. We are existing side by side with evil since time immemorial and nobody can escape it. If we focus on only the dark side of life, our heart inevitably become dark and the darkness will consume us from inside and we will turn unpleasant, uncompromising, and alienated from everyone. Inorder to not be lonely, we focus on the good traits in people too, right? Nobody is perfect - we all have good as well as bad and if we focus too much on the bad, we will miss out on the good and we become unappreciative and unrelenting. Don't we want people to overlook our shortcomings and accept us for what we are? Same rules applies to everything in life.

Our friend @Shuna put too much emphasis on the bad and she is hellbent on making everyone see things from her pessimistic viewpoint that, more often than not, she overstep the limit and her analysis go out of context and creates lots of confusions.

I will cite an example. When Taemin released "I think of you", we were relieved and rejoiced in finally getting a mv with no symbolism after being fed with series of satanic mvs from his comeback. Then Shuna appeared and successfully killed our joy. She said Taemin in Paris was evil in itself cuz Paris is the city of the the underworld. What?? For all we know, Taemin may have filmed in Paris cuz Paris is beautiful and it is the city of lights with all its romantic connotations. In the mv, Taemin was seen happily exploring and enjoying the sights as a tourist but Shuna was like ~ "Evil, evil, look at the lockers, that's past member's locker". Lol..
I don't recall all of what she said in her post but she, for dramatic effects, also added some Greek mythology characters to the mix and created doubts in us.

One negative outcome of her analysis was: it started an offshoots of uncomfortable discussions on Christian beliefs - Some questioned the validity of the Bible, some even questioned the validity of Jesus' name, etc. With all the discussions that followed, Shuna did the disappearing act. She did not comeback with clarifications or whatever. After creating confusions, she was gone.

I will point out here, evil comes in many disguises to create confusions in people.

This is not a personal attack on Shuna. Im sure she meant well and she ain't evil at all...but just a bit misinformed and lost.
i don’t think they are misinformed and lost because the things they see i see also just can not put into words most of the time.
both of them are right in this case it’s better to focus on positivity and goodness rather than on negativity and evil but do you really expect good and righteousness from the occult? you are in for a dark awakening my love things are way deeper than they seem there is always symbolism no matter what they are exchanging messages thru music videos and movies the groups and soloists that are performing them probably have NO IDEA OF.
let’s not forget that the world lays in the hands of the devil and there is nothing good apart of God. Jesus is the only way truth and life there is no other way out of this slavery out of your chains only He sets you free ONLY HE DIED FOR YOUR SINS so you can accept His free gift which is everlasting life die to the self pick up your cross and follow Him.
even focusing on this thread is bad in general because we are living in the last days we are to focus on God and nothing else He must be what we are aiming at and not those idols yes you can pray for them yes they are lost themselves yes God loves them but focusing too much on talking negatively about them is you letting them steal from your precious last seconds here on earth that can be spend way better in worship and thanking our Father for everything He’s done and continues to do for the air we breathe for the lightning that He sends which charges the atmosphere and once it starts raining this energy falls down in the ground and works as natural fertilizer and is the reason the grass is green. our world is created so beautiful by our beautiful Creator do we take the time to thank Him for everything He’s done for us? for everything He’s given to us? Do we?

Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. Romans 14:4

for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. matthew 4:45
 

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STOP FCKING LYING. Which conversations u gonna show? I bet you won't show the REAL conversations & u know damn well what I'm talking about. If I was you I would STFU and move on cuz we won't stop coming ova here to straighten out your lies. It's up to u. STFU or keep on lying and playing victim. We both know you won't show the REAL conversations.
Let's end this once and for all. Y'all show whatever proofs you got against each other. The rest of us are ready with our popcorn
 

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Ahaha don’t worry I can assure you it’s not an unpopular opinion. The thing is with this yes we don’t know what is in their heart and soul but when they sell out they are kind of asking for it, unless they were born into it and if they were then it is close to impossible that they can ever leave the occult. Also we all believe that if they repent then they will be saved, however looking at where they are now and their status what do you think are the chances that they will be able to leave this industry and live a “normal” life and let’s say they do like they leave the industry, all these years of abuse and practices of the occult will never leave them especially the mk ultra they’ve gone through, that sticks with you forever. Let me give you an example like everyone remembers they were bullied right or that one time they had a fight and got beaten up, the literal same is for these victims except they’ve been through sooo much more and it’s been very severe for them, most since childhood aswell! But they can have good hearts but without God they can’t be saved. Hope this makes sense :)
Yes,in this way i have understood your speech because was explanation, you talked about concrete things like their minds and their feelings and their situations :)
 
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Part 1

I can’t believe I even have to explain myself but here goes.

Let’s start with the JD situation. JD posted this video on to YouTube.


This was her opinion and there was little Muslims could do even though we felt disrespected, especially as I particularly loved JD’s vidoes. Under this YouTube video I commented that it was dangerous to talk publicly about some matters based on your own opinion without any reliable sources to back your claim. I don’t think modern Christianity is the truth but I won’t make a public video claiming the cross is satanic when I don’t even know the historical connotations of the cross or its symbolic link it has to Christianity. Under that video many Christians called Islamic leaders pedos, (God forbid), they blasphemed our God etc. The comments were disabled so I am unable to show you proof of this.

After that I admit I had a bitter taste in my mouth towards JD. But I stayed away from her and didn’t really watch her anymore. Fast forward to the day I made that stupid comment here. (I was wrong here and I take full responsibility). This occurred because bunnymyeon privately dmed me and @Boopdedoop claiming that JD COULD be watching this thread and then being inspired by it

Also let me show you some of the conversations I had with @Boopdedoop and @Bunnymyeon about Christianity.

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I criticised both followers of Islam and Christianity. I also said that Christians are victims of the NWO. I talked about how Jesus (as) is precious to us and that we love him. I talked about how the occult hates all religions (this is my opinion I am probably wrong about this, someone educated me that the occult use religion to their advantage)All the things I talked about here, I was talking to Christians about. If they were offended I would have apologised.

I will post about JD next. Give me time please
 
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Ahaha don’t worry I can assure you it’s not an unpopular opinion. The thing is with this yes we don’t know what is in their heart and soul but when they sell out they are kind of asking for it, unless they were born into it and if they were then it is close to impossible that they can ever leave the occult. Also we all believe that if they repent then they will be saved, however looking at where they are now and their status what do you think are the chances that they will be able to leave this industry and live a “normal” life and let’s say they do like they leave the industry, all these years of abuse and practices of the occult will never leave them especially the mk ultra they’ve gone through, that sticks with you forever. Let me give you an example like everyone remembers they were bullied right or that one time they had a fight and got beaten up, the literal same is for these victims except they’ve been through sooo much more and it’s been very severe for them, most since childhood aswell! But they can have good hearts but without God they can’t be saved. Hope this makes sense :)
i will say only this it won’t be long

there is nothing impossible for God

their status doesn’t matter to God. He sees everyone equally it doesn’t matter how rich or poor you are He loves you dearly and He knows who will be saved and who will turn to Him and let me tell you this MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE OCCULT RIGHT WHO ARE ON HIGH RANKS WILL TURN TO GOD THIS IS A PROPHECY HES SPOKEN ABOUT THAT IS WHY HE SAID NOT TO JUDGE PEOPLE BUT TO PRAY FOR THEM BECAUSE HE HAS PLAN WITH EVERYONE

do you know in the summer while i was on my way home from work i wasn’t thinking about anything i was just praying God gave me a word about seokjin and said that he is seeking Him but not in the right place and that he is confused right after that God said “whoever seeks me will find me” believe that if you want to it’s up to you but God loves everyone no matter what they do even if they drink the blood of kids and kill them once they repent with a sincere heart God will forgive them and throw their past away and make then into whole new beings because people are sick people are so sick it’s spiritual sickness that’s manifesting in the physical world in all sorts of ways including different diseases and mental illness
 

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Signing a devilish contract twice isn’t something everyone can do. They hit the jackpot at the time they signed with bighit again, meaning they were just greedy for more fame and money. They had the chance to break free but they chose to stay in this for another 7 years thing that is really telling a lot.
Truth is that we barely know what happens behind the scenes. We just know that they most of the times are actors, and that they are definitely part of the industry and not victims of it since it’s been so long they came in. There is no point in having pity for people that couldn’t care less about their fans life and souls.
But even tho it’s obvious to me they are hopeless, I prefer not to judge them til the end. It’s true only God knows what’s truly in someone’s heart, but somebody’s salvation isn’t easy. And if they are not willing to do anything about it there aren’t many chances they will ever change.
Best is to only analyze the symbolism but never hate the artist no matter how much we despise their mentality and actions. We do it for our self knowledge and just so that we know how to protect ourselves and people we care about. We don’t know indeed an idol’s life story so it’s better to keep it lowkey and eventually just give up the slightest thinking and caring about them. There is no point in caring about somebody you don’t really know in real life. So keep it mind everything you learn here is for your own protection and awareness. The best would be to just avoid their music for good and if you keep listening to music just make sure you filter it well because it might become a very dangerous influencer for you.
I love your words about not hating them and learn these things for protection,i don't want hate them because it is a waste of energy,i don't know them and it is a way to give them attention...i want to learn about how protect myself without worshipping them and without being completely blind.
I loved your video about them you talked about rings and i saw some idols have strange rings that i don't think are fashion,but they have these rings for others reasons,and i found strange that they talk about energy...with normal people i never heard this way to talk about energy,it makes me feel confused.
 
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Get your facts straight you daft fuck. This ain't about BTS. How about yo

WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH JD? SHOW THE REAL CONVERSATIOND LYING CUNT.
I will precious don’t worry :)

Also I don’t owe you this... it’s your wrong to have ever accessed my information. I don’t owe JD or anyone on this thread an explanation for what I talked about privately. However there are legal implications to what you have done
 

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i will say only this it won’t be long

there is nothing impossible for God

their status doesn’t matter to God. He sees everyone equally it doesn’t matter how rich or poor you are He loves you dearly and He knows who will be saved and who will turn to Him and let me tell you this MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE OCCULT RIGHT WHO ARE ON HIGH RANKS WILL TURN TO GOD THIS IS A PROPHECY HES SPOKEN ABOUT THAT IS WHY HE SAID NOT TO JUDGE PEOPLE BUT TO PRAY FOR THEM BECAUSE HE HAS PLAN WITH EVERYONE

do you know in the summer while i was on my way home from work i wasn’t thinking about anything i was just praying God gave me a word about seokjin and said that he is seeking Him but not in the right place and that he is confused right after that God said “whoever seeks me will find me” believe that if you want to it’s up to you but God loves everyone no matter what they do even if they drink the blood of kids and kill them once they repent with a sincere heart God will forgive them and throw their past away and make then into whole new beings because people are sick people are so sick it’s spiritual sickness that’s manifesting in the physical world in all sorts of ways including different diseases and mental illness
Ik I believe the same like we can’t be judging because it up to God really. But all that you said God does have a plan and will forget and forgive everything if they seek repentance and yes many do and many get saved :)
 

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I love your words about not hating them and learn these things for protection,i don't want hate them because it is a waste of energy,i don't know them and it is a way to give them attention...i want to learn about how protect myself without worshipping them and without being completely blind.
I loved your video about them you talked about rings and i saw some idols have strange rings that i don't think are fashion,but they have these rings for others reasons,and i found strange that they talk about energy...with normal people i never heard this way to talk about energy,it makes me feel confused.
RM talking about receiving energy from fans have always been questionable and creepy to me. I’ve always felt when I was in the fandom I was giving too much of myself to them.. and I am not talking about time even tho time is extremely precious too, but I literally felt how much they were exhausting me to the point I couldn’t have enough energy left to do other stuff but hype for them. I don’t know if there is a possibility they “feed” with this energy, but the devil is indeed feeding with our negative energy. We kinda feed ourselves to the negative spirits when we open our soul to bad music... sounds creepy but it’s just a suck of positive energy. That’s why many people feel empty. But we can “refill” energy praying to God and caring and loving other people around us. We can receive positive energy from people too when we do good things, that’s why we feel good and fulfilled when we help someone overcome something.
About the rings.. I know... fashion is really bizarre when it comes to people part of the music industry. Many fashion brands have been revealed as being part of the masonic agenda. Many of the things they wear are symbolic. This is a common way singers show the fact they are part of masonry. It’s really creepy and twisted.
 
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