2020 General Election Thread

[The Zone]

Do you mean my ability to see through bullshit?

 

[The Zone]

Quack!

 

[rainerann]

lol trump is literally suing to stop a number of states from continuing to count votes. You want to talk about mail in voting fraud. Election fraud at its finest is trying to stop counting the votes that were mailed in. That is the only real sign of election fraud I see taking place is coming from the trump sqaud trying to get someone to stop counting mail in votes before they cause him to lose the election.

Quack quack. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably the real duck trying to commit election fraud.

Trump sues to stop vote-counting in Michigan, Pennsylvania; claims late ballots mixed with others in Georgia

The legal challenges are aimed at wiping out mail and absentee ballots and prevent presidential electors from being awarded officially to Biden.

www.usatoday.com

Mail in votes are valid. They just take longer to count. The one trying to rig the election is the person trying to stop them from being counted. Period.

 

[rainerann]

California technically had only 70ish % of the vote counted last time I checked yesterday. No one cares because that last 30% isn’t going to help trump, but it is a reality that a large number of people mailed in their votes and they take longer to count. Especially in states that were not allowed by law to begin processing them until Election Day.

states like Florida could start processing in the middle Of October. States like Pennsylvania started from scratch on Election Day. They are still ahead of California In counting votes though, which is probably because they have smaller populations overall, but still.

Trump is just as guilty of trying to rig an election with the crap that he is putting out right now. You can’t stop counting the votes just because they are likely to cause you to lose the election.

trump is still over 3 million behind in the popular vote and he only won Texas by 52%. Texas was not a landslide for trump at all. He is not that popular. He has the potential to lose based on his own merit as president. Half of Texas even thinks they would rather have someone else.

 

[rainerann]

Lol @rainerann
You know, I respect you for your intelligence and all...but its clear as day that the left controls the media/news.
The most suspicious aspect IS the mail in ballots, themselves.
They should have never been allowed in the first place.

Trump called it from the beginning that if mail in ballots were allowed, this exact thing was going to happen.
And here it is.
Happening.

there is nothing wrong with mail in voting. There are several states that have been doing it for years. It is almost superstitious to other states though. They want to go to a ballot the same way a pro football player wants to wear the same dirty socks for every game. Wearing the dirty socks doesn’t help him win, just like going to a ballot box doesn’t make the election valid.

the mail in votes and the ballot box votes are still dependent on the same equipment or people to count them. Whether your state has outdated equipment is not anyone’s fault but your own state. Like in the case of the error in Michigan. Someone is literally entering this by hand and this is what created the error. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a librarian type that has some extra time to volunteer to help with the election And was just a nice average person doing their best with minimal assistance from technology. We are just not as advanced as people like to believe and apparently most people don’t pay attention to these things when they are out and about.

when Florida has issues years ago, it was the equipment they were using that was the problem. There is nothing inherently fraudulent about mailing in a vote. This is all based on propaganda from the trump squad and if the media is controlled by the left, trump is the east coast version of this left you’re talking about.

Trump didn’t call anything. He is manipulating the reality of counting mail in votes and the people listening to him are clearly very terrible at analyzing available data.

 

[Aazaad]

Hear hear!
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-presidential-election-criminal-con-artist/5728270

 

[justjess]

Lol @rainerann
You know, I respect you for your intelligence and all...but its clear as day that the left controls the media/news.
The most suspicious aspect IS the mail in ballots, themselves.
They should have never been allowed in the first place.

Trump called it from the beginning that if mail in ballots were allowed, this exact thing was going to happen.
And here it is.
Happening.

Trump purposely created a self fulfilling prophecy so that he could attempt to invalidate the election in the exact way he is currently doing. By convincing his followers the pandemic was a scam and mail in votes were evil - it left a situation where republicans were not going to mail in votes but democrats were. Giving him an opening to cry foul. He isn’t a stupid man. It’s like a mob don making sure he’s eating dinner in a crowded restaurant with plenty of witnesses while his henchmen off someone on the other side of town. Maybe you guys just don’t know enough criminals... idk. This whole thing - down to various groups reactions to it - is playing out exactly as planned and desired.

 

[rainerann]

Mail in votes is such a shady thing, in itself.
It should have never been allowed.
But because of covid, they allowed it.
The Democrats are behind the fall of 2020.
They set him up to fail from the start.
In collusion with China the virus got sent to the us to create a national pandemic lockdown situation that created such national turmoil and division which they in turn solely blamed on Trump, which is completely unfair (and untrue) because of the roles were reversed there would not be a peep about it.
History has shown that the elites darling chosen presidents never get the negative media attention that he has.
My question to every one who shares your views in this forum and others is why do you want Biden in? What do you think he can do for this country?
What will benefit the country with him in office?
Will the US retain its independence, or will it join forces with the NWO?
I have heard the generic "well he's not Trump" but WHY would YOU personally want him in office? What's he going to do for YOU?

there is nothing shady about mail in votes. That is propaganda that is part of trumps campaign because 80% of trumps campaign centers around propaganda.

“Before the pandemic struck the U.S., only five states—Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington—conducted their elections using a vote-by-mail system. Though all states allow voters to vote by mail in certain circumstances, before the pandemic 16 required voters to provide reasons for those preferences before their applications were approved. Those restrictions have been significantly relaxed over the past couple of months, with many states actively working to expand options for at-home voting in an attempt to limit foot traffic at polling places.”

so as you can every state allowed mail in voting before this. Only 16 required a reason to be approved and Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington have been using mail in votes for years already. Mail in voting is not a method of voter fraud. The equipment used by your state would be the component that would more than likely be responsible for any sort of intentional or unintentional fraud.

most technology is outdated. We collect and count votes the same way I remember taking a test in the 80’s. The process has not advanced much since this time and this reality is what actually created issues in Florida in 2000.

Otherwise, there is no real difference between sending the same ballot card through the mail versus bringing it to a ballot box. It is superstitious nonsense that trump is using to spin a narrative that will gain him support if counting mail in votes causes him to potentially lose the election, which appears to be happening.

trump supporters seem to be terrible at analyzing a larger scope of data to create a more objective and intelligent picture of reality.

These Are the States Where You Can Vote by Mail

Only five states conducted elections using a vote-by-mail system before the coronavirus pandemic struck the U.S.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Faker He-Man]

Just to be clear, Democrats/liberals are not leftists, and leftists are not Democrats. Democrats range from centrist to right-of-center politically. It’s actually insulting to leftists when we are called libs or dems. Ew, gross. LoL

The media is owned and controlled by the centrist democrat power structure, and leftism is never even given a chance. Don’t fall for the propaganda that says otherwise. You’re being duped 100%

 

[justjess]

@justjess
No I'm not saying you said anything.
I'm just expressing my perspective that there is voter fraud in play.
You don't claim to support either party. Fine. But it seems that your views are generally liberal leaning, which could be interpreted as supportive of the democratic party.
That's what I read when I see a lot of your posts.

Then you are confused and have been more duped by the two party system then you think. I have liberal views. I do not and never have supported the dnc.

 

[rainerann]

My question to every one who shares your views in this forum and others is why do you want Biden in? What do you think he can do for this country?
What will benefit the country with him in office?
Will the US retain its independence, or will it join forces with the NWO?
I have heard the generic "well he's not Trump" but WHY would YOU personally want him in office? What's he going to do for YOU?

I already answered this question of yours specifically from one of the other six times that you already asked it. It is becoming redundant and manipulative to keep repeating It at this point.

especially since even if I couldn’t give an answer for why I wanted biden to win, I clearly do not see any reason to want trump in office. Trump is the incumbent. This should be easy for him, but it isn’t because he has nothing to show for himself after four years in office. That is the primary reason I think he has the potential to lose this election.

 

[justjess]

Quack!

Thoughts and prayers that you regain your critical thinking skills old friend. I’m rooting for you.

 

[Faker He-Man]

One of the goals of the Democrat power structure is the continuous gaslighting of leftists and leftist ideals. They are much more kind to conservatives, who are let off rather easily in comparison. If you don’t see this, it is actually very understandable because the lies and deception are so thick that it’s very very difficult for many people to see past.

 

[meximonk]

This circus is probably going to the Supreme Court. SMH

Yes, I think it was planned to be as long and as drug out as possible while the sheeple are whipped up into a true revolutionary fervor and the plan is to destroy what's left of America in the process. This has been planned for a very long time.

 

[rainerann]

Again I see your point.
But I'm still in the camp to believe that with the convenience of mail in votes, it's completely wrought with fraud.
Anyone can state predictive programming (as so often seen in here), but this whole thing seems fishy...
That's my opinion.
I don't trust MSM.

it’s not the convenience. That’s ridiculous. Being more convenient doesn’t make something suspect. A tractor is more convenient. A dishwasher is more convenient.

Inexperience with mail in voting creates the potential for error, but the process doesn’t become more legitimate with more hoops to jump through.

All you have to do is have a process of verifying information. Quite frankly, the superior process of verifying information at a ballot box used to be signing that I had voted at this location. This handwritten signature that would become one of thousands is apparently a superior way to ensure that someone doesn’t pretend to be me and end up causing two votes to be represented with my name attached in the final vote count.

how this ever could be superior to the process of entering this information into a computer, which would be an obvious alternate way to simulate this process of signing my name, is absolutely absurd.

a computer entry that I had already voted is a much Better way of ensuring that two votes are not recorded with my identity. A computer program could be programmed to say, “this vote has already been recorded,” and increase accuracy, opportunity and convenience to the voting process which would result in a larger number of people being motivated to vote, which would result in a much more democratic outcome.

Convenience creates fairness and 100% of the population voting versus 60% Would produce a much more democratic result.

as it stands, considering the current voter turnout, you are basically saying we shouldn’t accommodate the millions of people that don’t vote because of some form of logistical challenge and continue electing presidents with only 60ish% of the populations participating in the decision. That is an absurd suggestion.

voter fraud caused by mail in votes is propaganda and not based in reality.

 

[Faker He-Man]

Not one single leftist likes Biden. They despise him completely. They might hold their nose and vote for him as a stopgap to halt a downward decline into sheer insanity, however. They do not see it as a vote FOR Biden, it’s seen as a vote for “NotTrump”

Many other “normie” dems who are gullible, but well intentioned and heart-centered voted for Biden. Many gullible but well-intentioned, heart-centered people also voted for Trump. It’s not all ego-centered voters on the right, nor are the Biden voters all ego-centered. This notion that voters on either side have evil intentions is exactly what is egotistical and merely a convenient escape from reality.

 

[meximonk]

Again I see your point.
But I'm still in the camp to believe that with the convenience of mail in votes, it's completely wrought with fraud.
Anyone can state predictive programming (as so often seen in here), but this whole thing seems fishy...
That's my opinion.
I don't trust MSM.

I firmly believe that this was done on purpose, with clues left for the world to see also on purpose, to give an excuse to inflame the Right which you know the left Communists will be more than happy to respond too. It's another attempt by the Illuminati to start a Civil War, plain and simple.

EDIT ADDENDUM:
The balkanization we've seen with the peddle to the metal the past 15 years or so has been the building of the bonfire, so to speak. Now they're trying to light it. The question is, will it burn.

 

[rainerann]

@rainerann
I see you post collected ideas and opinions from what you have observed of what some of the population thinks of Trump.
But I don't see what you personally believe about Biden, and why he would be great for this country? How will he fix America?
What's his actual plan? How will he help struggling Americans without trading out their personal liberties?
If you have posted this in other threads I'm unaware of it, that's why I've directly asked again.
Apologies for the redundancy.

Hmm... I’m going to have to say that this is a ridiculous question to ask in a place like this. If I were interested in campaigning for biden, I wouldn’t be sitting here talking with people on an alt media forum. But here I am because most of what I think is somewhat alternative most of the time.

so no I don’t have a biden sign in front of my house and I don’t have conversations at the grocery store with people about how I think biden is a hero.

like your question reminds me of a question I would have had about George Washington in the 4th grade.
Like my teacher would say something like, “class now we are all going to take ten minutes to write down why we think George Washington was a great president. I will set a timer now. Go!”

Like I already specifically quoted your question and answered it already to begin with and I have also said we shouldn’t have a president at all and I support secession, but maybe you haven’t seen those.

still, I’m not going to start making false claims about mail in voting because of this

 

[The Zone]

Some of you are so gullible. You are blinded by hatred and yet point to others as being closed-minded. When the same few people come on here to trash mean old orange man every day of their lives, it is called obsession. Most in that group are incapable of objectivity and I am clearly not the only one who sees it that way. Some of you come into the forums and die on the same ridge of battle every single day.

 

[Faker He-Man]