BTS discussion thread

[ShiningCarat14]

Thank you .I like reading your posts alot.There is an empathetic and compassionate tone in them with balanced viewpoints.I also like reading all the posts here but have not contributed much because I see the situation regarding Tae and Bts not changing much.Still Tae being portrayed the dumb one and Jk the darling golden star.However Jk cannot stand on his own inspite of all bighit's power ,money and media play to push him forward.He is bland so they need Tae in the picture to prop him up.The extra Taekook content being bombarded due to it.I don't really care about Bts but any outsider can see the favouritism and the skewed dynamics. After all it is the world of the elite.Tae is just doing his job.He is in it to earn money and survive.Now how much humiliation and being treated as a punching bag for laughs and jokes Tae can take it before total breakdown depends on him.Some can and some shatter.Tae does have a rebellous streak and if push comes to shove he is the ace that can bring down the sadistic empire of bang pd down.Bang pd knows so the extra humiliation rituals against Tae .Not giving him any goodies and collabs etc and treated as something worthless so that you start devaluing yourself.Well I wish Tae can go against but the possibility is bleak.The lure of material comforts is too great and often silences our moral conscience.Show biz is dirty dark business.However it is so sad that we as common people are manipulated so easily by the elite and they keep on getting rich and powerful while we are struggling to survive.Bts and bighit use same recycled concepts, fake scripted materials and their songs are not even good.I have not listened to dynamite .Their billboard no 1 is not organic with their multitude of remixes and what not.They are the kardashians of kpop. They are a reality show with cringy storylines- but Jungkook is the hero oscillating between jimin and Tae whatever profits the most.Maybe we are so lacking in love and connectivity that we try to live through the fake love and family feeling projected by celebs. We feel too powerless in our daily lives struggling for basic survival that we all want to escape.Bang PD with his fake family agenda has profited billions on that basis..

I freaking adore your posts man!

I also think the same! This has been going on for 2 years now. Tae and JK can’t even sit in the same room together because of the tension yet now Bighit keep changing the story. Army are starting to blame Taekook shippers for their broken friendship. Same with Vmin and the soulmate agenda that’s been going on for years now when Tae and Jimin aren’t close. They released “friends” to push this agenda and always have Jimin on cue if Tae is upset to comfort him and vice versa. It is getting so fake now because you can see the tension between JK and Jimin particularly towards Tae. Although it seems like this comeback Jimin and Tae seem to be cooperating better with eachother

I also hoped for a long time Tae would pull a Zayn and leave so the fabricated “we are family, BTS are happy” propaganda would collapse but I don’t see it happening at all. Not only is he greedy for attention ( he has a lot of psychological problems ) he is giving in a lot to his humiliation and punishment, unlike 2018 when he seemed to be rebelling it. It’s almost like he’s just accepted it probably through all the rituals he’s had done on him.

JK is the Golden Child.... doing what he’s told. Never questioning! And excelling at what he does too. It’s no coinciding he’s called the Golden maknae

Jimin too, does what he’s told. And loves the attention so will do it! Although Jimin doesn’t always excel and is too hard on himself!

Tae is the weeping child... I think his role was shadow leader but he couldn’t do it well. keeps messing up, so is punished for it!


It is all about marketing for Bighit, they exploit maknae line the most because they bring in the most cash. Everyone knows (including army) that Suga and Namjoon don’t get along but it’s not made into a big deal. We don’t see them two having scripted talks at all. I noticed also that they are brightening Tae’s persona this comeback. A lot of army were questioning why he had been so sad and his new mixtape is going to come out to show how he was feeling depressed but he overcome it because of the love he got from army and his BTS brothers helping him! Same freaking thing all the time lol... so unoriginal. And of course army will believe all of this!

 

[somewhat_yuna]

I freaking adore your posts man!

I also think the same! This has been going on for 2 years now. Tae and JK can’t even sit in the same room together because of the tension yet now Bighit keep changing the story. Army are starting to blame Taekook shippers for their broken friendship. Same with Vmin and the soulmate agenda that’s been going on for years now when Tae and Jimin aren’t close. They released “friends” to push this agenda and always have Jimin on cue if Tae is upset to comfort him and vice versa. It is getting so fake now because you can see the tension between JK and Jimin particularly towards Tae. Although it seems like this comeback Jimin and Tae seem to be cooperating better with eachother

I also hoped for a long time Tae would pull a Zayn and leave so the fabricated “we are family, BTS are happy” propaganda would collapse but I don’t see it happening at all. Not only is he greedy for attention ( he has a lot of psychological problems ) he is giving in a lot to his humiliation and punishment, unlike 2018 when he seemed to be rebelling it. It’s almost like he’s just accepted it probably through all the rituals he’s had done on him.


It is all about marketing for Bighit, they exploit maknae line the most because they bring in the most cash. Everyone knows (including army) that Suga and Namjoon don’t get along but it’s not made into a big deal. We don’t see them two having scripted talks at all. I noticed also that they are brightening Tae’s persona this comeback. A lot of army were questioning why he had been so sad and his new mixtape is going to come out to show how he was feeling depressed but he overcome it because of the love he got from army and his BTS brothers helping him! Same freaking thing all the time lol... so unoriginal. And of course army will believe all of this!

I can't stand fake friends. I don't even know who messed up the friendship apart from satan..

 

[Ri12345]

I freaking adore your posts man!

I also think the same! This has been going on for 2 years now. Tae and JK can’t even sit in the same room together because of the tension yet now Bighit keep changing the story. Army are starting to blame Taekook shippers for their broken friendship. Same with Vmin and the soulmate agenda that’s been going on for years now when Tae and Jimin aren’t close. They released “friends” to push this agenda and always have Jimin on cue if Tae is upset to comfort him and vice versa. It is getting so fake now because you can see the tension between JK and Jimin particularly towards Tae. Although it seems like this comeback Jimin and Tae seem to be cooperating better with eachother

I also hoped for a long time Tae would pull a Zayn and leave so the fabricated “we are family, BTS are happy” propaganda would collapse but I don’t see it happening at all. Not only is he greedy for attention ( he has a lot of psychological problems ) he is giving in a lot to his humiliation and punishment, unlike 2018 when he seemed to be rebelling it. It’s almost like he’s just accepted it probably through all the rituals he’s had done on him.

JK is the Golden Child.... doing what he’s told. Never questioning! And excelling at what he does too. It’s no coinciding he’s called the Golden maknae

Jimin too, does what he’s told. And loves the attention so will do it! Although Jimin doesn’t always excel and is too hard on himself!

Tae is the weeping child... I think his role was shadow leader but he couldn’t do it well. keeps messing up, so is punished for it!


It is all about marketing for Bighit, they exploit maknae line the most because they bring in the most cash. Everyone knows (including army) that Suga and Namjoon don’t get along but it’s not made into a big deal. We don’t see them two having scripted talks at all. I noticed also that they are brightening Tae’s persona this comeback. A lot of army were questioning why he had been so sad and his new mixtape is going to come out to show how he was feeling depressed but he overcome it because of the love he got from army and his BTS brothers helping him! Same freaking thing all the time lol... so unoriginal. And of course army will believe all of this!

Thank you for your kind words.
I love the way you have written about the dynamics in the band.The palpable tension and animosity between Jk, Tae and jimin literally seeps through the screen.Bighit tries to twist it to delude people but anyone with a brain and no army blinkers on can see that they are not getting along.Jk and jimin's smirks, ridiculous laughing and interruptions cannot be interpreted as friendly gestures.Maybe behind the scenes Tae is treated like that by the management,immediate managers etc and it is surprising that they have become bold enough to show this on camera.With one Direction yes Zayn had become quiet and their inner tensions were revealed after he left but in the band during interviews they were not so blatant to show that in front of the camera.It appears as if Jk and jimin have got permission to put Tae down straight from the boss without any consequences. True Tae seems to have given up and seems to have succumbed to the power play.There are two options - either survive and suck up or fight for your rights and morals.He seems to have given up for material benefits for the time being. He does not want to break the status quo and keep on getting easy money.
Again in the new collab with Jason derula he was not given a chance but he was used as the face in articles to attract attention. In The Jimmy Fallon show the camera did not focus on him even when he was singing.So how long can he be repressed and suppressed is the question. I hope he gets a good lawyer because in the long run he will be left with few material baubles and bighit instead earning billions in his name.He does sell the most.

 

[ayo05]

Thank you for your kind words.
I love the way you have written about the dynamics in the band.The palpable tension and animosity between Jk, Tae and jimin literally seeps through the screen.Bighit tries to twist it to delude people but anyone with a brain and no army blinkers on can see that they are not getting along.Jk and jimin's smirks, ridiculous laughing and interruptions cannot be interpreted as friendly gestures.Maybe behind the scenes Tae is treated like that by the management,immediate managers etc and it is surprising that they have become bold enough to show this on camera.With one Direction yes Zayn had become quiet and their inner tensions were revealed after he left but in the band during interviews they were not so blatant to show that in front of the camera.It appears as if Jk and jimin have got permission to put Tae down straight from the boss without any consequences. True Tae seems to have given up and seems to have succumbed to the power play.There are two options - either survive and suck up or fight for your rights and morals.He seems to have given up for material benefits for the time being. He does not want to break the status quo and keep on getting easy money.
Again in the new collab with Jason derula he was not given a chance but he was used as the face in articles to attract attention. In The Jimmy Fallon show the camera did not focus on him even when he was singing.So how long can he be repressed and suppressed is the question. I hope he gets a good lawyer because in the long run he will be left with few material baubles and bighit instead earning billions in his name.He does sell the most.

Wait how do u know about the Jason Durelo one? As it come out?

 

[ayo05]

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Where are you getting these from???

 

[ayo05]

Thank you .I like reading your posts alot.There is an empathetic and compassionate tone in them with balanced viewpoints.I also like reading all the posts here but have not contributed much because I see the situation regarding Tae and Bts not changing much.Still Tae being portrayed the dumb one and Jk the darling golden star.However Jk cannot stand on his own inspite of all bighit's power ,money and media play to push him forward.He is bland so they need Tae in the picture to prop him up.The extra Taekook content being bombarded due to it.I don't really care about Bts but any outsider can see the favouritism and the skewed dynamics. After all it is the world of the elite.Tae is just doing his job.He is in it to earn money and survive.Now how much humiliation and being treated as a punching bag for laughs and jokes Tae can take it before total breakdown depends on him.Some can and some shatter.Tae does have a rebellous streak and if push comes to shove he is the ace that can bring down the sadistic empire of bang pd down.Bang pd knows so the extra humiliation rituals against Tae .Not giving him any goodies and collabs etc and treated as something worthless so that you start devaluing yourself.Well I wish Tae can go against but the possibility is bleak.The lure of material comforts is too great and often silences our moral conscience.Show biz is dirty dark business.However it is so sad that we as common people are manipulated so easily by the elite and they keep on getting rich and powerful while we are struggling to survive.Bts and bighit use same recycled concepts, fake scripted materials and their songs are not even good.I have not listened to dynamite .Their billboard no 1 is not organic with their multitude of remixes and what not.They are the kardashians of kpop. They are a reality show with cringy storylines- but Jungkook is the hero oscillating between jimin and Tae whatever profits the most.Maybe we are so lacking in love and connectivity that we try to live through the fake love and family feeling projected by celebs. We feel too powerless in our daily lives struggling for basic survival that we all want to escape.Bang PD with his fake family agenda has profited billions on that basis..

I mean now that we are talking about this.. I feel like Jimin and Jungkook have this chemistry more than they do with tae. Cause for Jimin's birthday in 2017...THEY WENT TO FREAKIN JAPAN....DISNEYLAND IN JAPAN. And then for Jungkook's birthday in 2019. He flew back to Korea from Paris just to see Jungkook. Cause he was in Paris before Jungkook's birthday. I was like..dang. And i don't think I have seen jikook given tae a present. Not that I have seen.. And both jikook have given each other great presents.. Like Jimin got Jungkook this limited edition Jack skeleton toy.

 

[ayo05]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1240981991362662400

I mean now that we are talking about this.. I feel like Jimin and Jungkook have this chemistry more than they do with tae. Cause for Jimin's birthday in 2017...THEY WENT TO FREAKIN JAPAN....DISNEYLAND IN JAPAN. And then for Jungkook's birthday in 2019. He flew back to Korea from Paris just to see Jungkook. Cause he was in Paris before Jungkook's birthday. I was like..dang. And i don't think I have seen jikook given tae a present. Not that I have seen.. And both jikook have given each other great presents.. Like Jimin got Jungkook this limited edition Jack skeleton toy.

 

[ShiningCarat14]

Thank you for your kind words.
I love the way you have written about the dynamics in the band.The palpable tension and animosity between Jk, Tae and jimin literally seeps through the screen.Bighit tries to twist it to delude people but anyone with a brain and no army blinkers on can see that they are not getting along.Jk and jimin's smirks, ridiculous laughing and interruptions cannot be interpreted as friendly gestures.Maybe behind the scenes Tae is treated like that by the management,immediate managers etc and it is surprising that they have become bold enough to show this on camera.With one Direction yes Zayn had become quiet and their inner tensions were revealed after he left but in the band during interviews they were not so blatant to show that in front of the camera.It appears as if Jk and jimin have got permission to put Tae down straight from the boss without any consequences. True Tae seems to have given up and seems to have succumbed to the power play.There are two options - either survive and suck up or fight for your rights and morals.He seems to have given up for material benefits for the time being. He does not want to break the status quo and keep on getting easy money.
Again in the new collab with Jason derula he was not given a chance but he was used as the face in articles to attract attention. In The Jimmy Fallon show the camera did not focus on him even when he was singing.So how long can he be repressed and suppressed is the question. I hope he gets a good lawyer because in the long run he will be left with few material baubles and bighit instead earning billions in his name.He does sell the most.

You are spot on like always... the mistreatment to Jin and V is undeniable, there are so many times Bighit has mistreated them I can’t even count. Because Bighit want JK and Jimin to stay on top no matter what. They are Bang PDs faves for reasons o actually don’t know because in BTS he doesn’t even highlight their talents but rather puts them in centre where they don’t fit at times. Jimin is an amazing dancer but instead Bighit focuses on him having lead vocals, when his voice isn’t stable for a lead vocal and cracks often, just to make sure that Jin and Tae who imo have the unique vocal tones don’t get centre stage. The truth Untold for example was a fitting song for Tae and really suited him but he got one verse. Same with Jin... you can see how powerful his voice is in Japanese singles but he’s hardly heard. JK too, has such a beautiful voice but they teach him the wrong techniques, with the breathy tone, which are harming his vocals. A lot of vocal coaches picked that he can still sustain a healthier way of using breath in his singing without damaging his vocal cords. So they aren’t even using the 2 they promote the most in the right way

You are so right, they use Tae for all the marketing strategies but when it comes to the product be it their Samsung Collabs, songs etc he is hardly there for all the promotion they did with his face. They know he attracts a lot of popularity not just from fans but from other companies and insiders and so they try to demean him as much as possible and only use him to their advantage. If they didn’t have Tae specifically, BTS would crash. He might not be the best singer or the best dancer but he’s got that charm other artists don’t have, and that’s what sells, kind of like the X factor so they can’t let him leave easily but still need to keep him in check.

Tae is acting up lol and it makes me laugh. His facial expressions when he’s with other collaborators (Halsey, Charlie Puth), his snide comments about Bang PD, the one on ILand made me laugh, his constant breakdowns. I think they drugged him up hard this comeback so he is more cooperative. They don’t like him but still need him so it’s a tricky situation. He himself probably thinks he can’t make it out of BTS, they probably have a lot of dirt on him, they have cameras in their room so all the rituals he’s done are filmed. If he ever tries to break the status quo they will use it against him. It’s the Freemasons punchline after all “Vow of Silence”

@ayo05, here’s the song. Not all the members are in it though

 

[ShiningCarat14]

@ayo05, here’s the song. Not all the members are in it though

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just to add, 1D were controlled but I don’t think to the point BTS are. Zayn was able to leave which speaks for itself. He didn’t get any backlash and there was no scandal involving him but if a BTS member were to do this I’m sure there would be some sort of scandal.

Zayn denying rumours he was gonna leave but leaves the next year! See everyone knew the tensions were there then. He then goes on to say in his exit that he hardly talked to Harry and there were tensions between the groups. The gossip is only revealed when you are out of the company, so if Tae gets out I’m sure there will be a lot of spilled beans

 

[somewhat_yuna]

I mean now that we are talking about this.. I feel like Jimin and Jungkook have this chemistry more than they do with tae. Cause for Jimin's birthday in 2017...THEY WENT TO FREAKIN JAPAN....DISNEYLAND IN JAPAN. And then for Jungkook's birthday in 2019. He flew back to Korea from Paris just to see Jungkook. Cause he was in Paris before Jungkook's birthday. I was like..dang. And i don't think I have seen jikook given tae a present. Not that I have seen.. And both jikook have given each other great presents.. Like Jimin got Jungkook this limited edition Jack skeleton toy.

Feel so bad for tae..but I personally think about this situation differently.

 

[ShiningCarat14]

Feel so bad for tae..but I personally think about this situation differently.

Don’t feel too bad lol,
He’s not innocent either lol. He’s also using his misfortune to affect fans. A lot of fans are spending too much time feeling sorry for him. Jin doesn’t exploit his sadness as much. Plus the Japan trip was another strategy to exploit BTS in their “free time” and promote JiKook. Everything they show to the fans is created by Bighit and has ulterior motive and is for the money. I’m sure Tae is hurt by it if he’s constantly being singled out and I feel even his hwarang “friends” are fake but he’s very intelligent and he knows this. Only time will tell what happens but hopefully he can make it out alive and sue bighit, for their mistreatment towards him. He’s the only one who’s brave enough to do it

 

[somewhat_yuna]

Don’t feel too bad lol,
He’s not innocent either so! Plus the Japan trip was another strategy to exploit BTS in their “free time” and promote JiKook. Everything they show to the fans is created by Bighit and has ulterior motive and is for the money. I’m sure Tae is hurt by it if he’s constantly being singled out and I feel even his hwarang “friends” are fake but he’s very intelligent and he knows this. Only time will tell what happens but hopefully he can make it out alive and sue bighit, for their mistreatment towards him. He’s the only one who’s brave enough to do it

Jesus..this dude most be tired of all them fake friends. I honestly feel awful for him. Even though he isn't innocent, he doesn't deserve all of this nonesense. Got my popcorn ready for the day the truth will come out <3

 

[ayo05]

Feel so bad for tae..but I personally think about this situation differently.

Care to explain?

 

[TheNightDuck]

Its been a long while since ive really like anything BTS has done, and their performance on Jimmy Fallon earlier this week with the Roots I think, they looked sickly and old. This is one of my favorite songs and actually this performance seemed really clean and fresh, with sort of reminiscent of old Tae. I actually have nothing bad to say about it lol. No I lie. I dont like Namjoon and Jungjooks vibe anymore.
Also at 3.25 when Jin and Jimin join, Jimins looks exactly like a lady. So weird.

 

[ayo05]

Its been a long while since ive really like anything BTS has done, and their performance on Jimmy Fallon earlier this week with the Roots I think, they looked sickly and old. This is one of my favorite songs and actually this performance seemed really clean and fresh, with sort of reminiscent of old Tae. I actually have nothing bad to say about it lol. No I lie. I dont like Namjoon and Jungjooks vibe anymore.

I don't want to watch any one their performances that much anymore because it makes just realize how they much they manipulate people and I still love them so it hurts sometimes y'know?

 

[TheNightDuck]

I don't want to watch any one their performances that much anymore because it makes just realize how they much they manipulate people and I still love them so it hurts sometimes y'know?

Ya shit man its always popping up on my feeds. Damn and this performance was really nice. All Taes movements were really nice. But he flashes devil horns at 3.55. Ah screw these guys man. Going to go pray LOL joking im dead inside

 

[ayo05]

Ya shit man its always popping up on my feeds. Damn and this performance was really nice. All Taes movements were really nice. But he flashes devil horns at 3.55. Ah screw these guys man. Going to go pray LOL joking im dead inside

Me too! Cause they really have an effect on you that is hard to explain. Man it's so hard not to click on a video of theirs. Screw these men...Making me laugh all the time. But i still know that they are manipulating ppl.

 

[TheNightDuck]

Me too! Cause they really have an effect on you that is hard to explain. Man it's so hard not to click on a video of theirs. Screw these men...Making me laugh all the time. But i still know that they are manipulating ppl.

Its kind of like real life. A man makes u laugh then proceeds to ruin yr life lol

 

[TheNightDuck]

Me too! Cause they really have an effect on you that is hard to explain. Man it's so hard not to click on a video of theirs. Screw these men...Making me laugh all the time. But i still know that they are manipulating ppl.

Also my heart started beating faster while watching it. I really should not watch this crap

 

[ayo05]

Its kind of like real life. A man makes u laugh then proceeds to ruin yr life lol

LOLLL sooo true!!!!!