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Minneapolis City Council unanimously votes to ABOLISH its police department and replace it with a community-led public safety system - while NYC leaders push plan to cut $1 BILLION from the NYPD budget
 

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Minneapolis City Council unanimously votes to ABOLISH its police department and replace it with a community-led public safety system - while NYC leaders push plan to cut $1 BILLION from the NYPD budget
America’s priorities as shown by its budgetary preferences: war abroad (Military) and war on its own streets (police). There’s nothing moronic about rolling that back
 

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America’s priorities as shown by its budgetary preferences: war abroad (Military) and war on its own streets (police). There’s nothing moronic about rolling that back
As far as I know we aren’t in a war abroad. And we wouldn’t have a war here if there weren’t rioting people’s forcing the police to intervene.... context matters.
 

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As far as I know we aren’t in a war abroad. And we wouldn’t have a war here if there weren’t rioting people’s forcing the police to intervene.... context matters.
We are still in the middle eastern wars.. for almost two decades now. And our military budget - whether at war or not - is the largest item in our budget by far. Even when people’s aren’t rioting our police departments take up a large portion of every localities budget, far more then any other service. So your right, context definately matters.
 

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It just doesnt seem practical. If anything there will probably be more inner corruption than a police force, because just as cops look out for their own these people may be led to as well and turn a blind eye to drug trade for not wanting to incarcerate their communities. Drugs could become an even bigger problem. Who is going to arm these community led public safety agents? Gangs could easily control them through fear tactics if these systems arent large enough and properly armed. Not too mention who would volunteer for this and put their life on the line for free unless it was a paid occuption, but nobody is going to make it a full time thing without receiving a proper wage...
 

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It would have to be a full time occuption, because nobody is going to quit there day job to become a community led safety agent if there is no pay. There would have to be some budget to go toward this...
 

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America’s priorities as shown by its budgetary preferences: war abroad (Military) and war on its own streets (police). There’s nothing moronic about rolling that back
Gangs and dope dealers be traveling cross country to set up shop in MPLS as we speak.
 

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Gangs and dope dealers be traveling cross country to set up shop in MPLS as we speak.
Gangs and dope dealers aren’t deterred by police to begin with. And you have no evidence of that. NYPD went on strike in 2016 I believe, crime dropped. I don’t support getting rid of all police but I do support reform and balance. Your all making hysterical arguments that aren’t even based on the reality of what’s going on and what’s being proposed.
 

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Gangs and dope dealers aren’t deterred by police to begin with. And you have no evidence of that. NYPD went on strike in 2016 I believe, crime dropped. I don’t support getting rid of all police but I do support reform and balance. Your all making hysterical arguments that aren’t even based on the reality of what’s going on and what’s being proposed.
The threat of a federalized NYPD still existed in the minds of those who would potentially commit crime though. That in itself seems like a legitimate deterrence in itself. It was never fully abolished.

The PD in MPLS is being abolished altogether. Has that ever happened before?
 
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Dave chapelle made his break to africa and came back and got the netflix 50 million special or whatever it was. So ask urself this - what did he walk away from, that was so bad for 50 million, and what makes u think they gave him 50 million just LIKE THAT, without the same disgusting pre-requisites for it?. As much as I hate to admit, it serves to reason dave, is ANOTHER puppet of the agenda. I also want to draw the attention to the 8:46 numerology here, why the emphasis on that number.

 
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Dave chapelle made his break to africa and came back and got the netflix 50 million special or whatever it was. So ask urself this - what did he walk away from, that was so bad for 50 million, and what makes u think they gave him 50 million just LIKE THAT, without the same disgusting pre-requisites for it?. As much as I hate to admit, it serves to reason dave, is ANOTHER puppet of the agenda. I also want to draw the attention to the 8:46 numerology here, why the emphasis on that number.

so to elaborate on this a youtube comment :

8:46— the exact time the first plane hit on 911 and the official time of observance. John 8:46. “ which of you convinceth me of sin? And if say the truth, why do ye not believe me?” On the day George Floyd died, the sunset at exactly 8:46 that day!!! The number 846 is obtained by addition of the numbers 20 and 20. In August 1946. 8/46. ——the first US commemorative coin of an African American Booker T Washington- half dollar created. George Orwell releases historically claimed book called “ Animal Farm”—— I’ll let you look that up.... hint a satire using animals, and famous quote in book—- “ all animals are created equal”. Donald Trump was born in 1946. 6/14/1946. 14-6= 8. Coincidence? Get your popcorn folks...... to the elite few, “ the show must go on”.

Heres another thing he is strongly alluding to a coming chaos - he says, the next thing to happen is "ratatatat"

He goes on to say "any one who survives this nightmare is a hero"? What nightmare, is he talking about, how do we survive it, if its ongoing I didnt know everyones lives are in danger, is this whats coming dave? teh nightmare that is to come, lots of coded language here. He is firing up the people for sure.

AT 24:36 AFTER MENTIONING THE NUMBER 24 AND KOBES DEATH AND HIS BIRTHDAY HE THROWS UP THE OK -666 SIGN....CO-INCIDENCE, COME ON PEOPLE LOTS OF SYMBOLISM HERE, INCLUDING HIS ROLLED UP PANT.
 
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We were served the murder on a plate to view, there was something very unnatural about the murder it was almost like a theatre rendition to me, he was looking at the camera and when it had finished it was as if to say there we go job done.

I found it very strange, if u know someone is filming u do not act that brash, he also would have felt the body go limp. None of it really makes any sense.
 

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The threat of a federalized NYPD still existed in the minds of those who would potentially commit crime though. That in itself seems like a legitimate deterrence in itself. It was never fully abolished.

The PD in MPLS is being abolished altogether. Has that ever happened before?
I’d wait for more details to emerge before buying into sensationalized headlines and slogans tbh. Camden disbanded their police, changed their model, crime dropped and as underalielcontrol pointed out surveillance tech skyrocketed. I’m not for surveillance but there’s ways to balance things which aren’t apocalyptic or Orwellian. Pulling police out of schools isn’t a bad thing - children’s discipline shouldn’t be handled by law enforcement for one example. Mental health distress calls typically don’t require ten cops either.

Aren’t conservatives typically about fiscal responsibility? How does it make sense to spend all our money policing people and waging war and peanuts of our money educating our people and making sure they’re healthy?
 

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FBI just got permission to search browser histories without a warrant a little while ago. I knew this would be used to try to look into the protestors.

I would be careful before thinking that trump doesn’t hire his own people to push narratives too. Everyone is all about saying there is money behind blm or antifa, but trump has some money of his own, and I don’t think he is above using it to spread some things circulating out there that work to his advantage.

personally, I still don’t see antifa involved at all. That is a major one that would serve trumps campaign agenda. Antifa is more political and was noticeable when trump won the election.

an issue like this gains support from a larger audience than something like antifa, which is going to attract a different mindset that seems to be more interested in politics overall.

There was an article about this music shop that was looted. The people who looted this place weren’t antifa. You can see that these people are probably regular people getting taken up in their agreement about corrupt police.


An issue like this attracts a large number of people who know the police shows favoritism, so there are different reasons something like this gets support in contrast to the protests that took place after trump was elected. Saying antifa is responsible or even a major player, is playing off of a narrative specific to a claim of opposition towards trump personally descending from the protests that took place after he was elected.

I would not be surprised if trump were paying his own people to spread a false message that this whole thing is about opposition to trump rather than anything legitimate.

it wouldn’t surprise me if trump didn’t pay some people to spread around social media that the coronavirus was also about hurting trump election chances.

if you have ever hung around people who had at one point in their life felt targeted by the police, it should be fairly easy to see why this would gain support from people who usually don’t have much interest in politics at all.

apparently, it is even inspiring people to vote in larger numbers, which is some evidence that these protests are supported by people who don’t usually have a lot of interest in politics.

honestly, a negative view towards police might be a reason that many people don’t have an interest in politics or see voting as a way to change things. All the more reason to defund the police.

 
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