George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

Phillip Jefferies

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Yup, it was engineered and designed no doubt.

Yeah the guy that drove down the Seattle street was either black or hispanic, and he shot someone trying to pull him out of his car. In the arm. Good for him, good chance these rabid mobs wouldve killed him. And he clearly wasnt trying to hit anyone with his car. I saw the video. Then he walked over to the police and turned himself in. Doesn't stop the media calling him a murderous "known white supremacist". Lol they are so desparate to create a racial war its disgusting
Where did the article call him a known white supremacist? Anyway, the footage clearly shows him accelerating towards the crowds and the man who was shot trying to stop him from committing mass murder, not sure what video you watched.
 
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Where did the article call him a known white supremacist? Anyway, the footage clearly shows him accelerating towards the crowds and the man who was shot trying to stop him from committing mass murder, not sure what video you watched.
It was in another news cast, those exact words were used. I’m pretty sure if he was “trying to commit mass murder” he could have done so pretty easily. Not hitting a single person with his car, then stopping, and then having someone reach in your car and trying to rip you out, who your shoot, before you walk peacefully with a gun through a crowd towards the cops, is not trying to commit mass murder in anyone’s eyes who’s not trying to create a race war through the media machine
 
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Where did the article call him a known white supremacist? Anyway, the footage clearly shows him accelerating towards the crowds and the man who was shot trying to stop him from committing mass murder, not sure what video you watched.
the article did not call him a "known white supremacist" that was just an complete fabrication by our right wing propagandist, doing what right wing propagandists to best TO LIE.

They blame others for trying to start "race wars" but they are the ones who do this and WANT THIS.
 

Wigi

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Where did the article call him a known white supremacist? Anyway, the footage clearly shows him accelerating towards the crowds and the man who was shot trying to stop him from committing mass murder, not sure what video you watched.
Honestly we don't come to that conclusion when you watch the footages.
In fact, the driver stopped himself the car and likely was in panic that's why he used the gun.
Then he went out of the car and ran away(to the police? I don't know). Anyways it doesn't look like a mass shooting attempt.
 
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It was in another news cast, those exact words were used. I’m pretty sure if he was “trying to commit mass murder” he could have done so pretty easily. Not hitting a single person with his car, then stopping, and then having someone reach in your car and trying to rip you out, who your shoot, before you walk peacefully with a gun through a crowd towards the cops, is not trying to commit mass murder in anyone’s eyes who’s not trying to create a race war through the media machine
there were 2 incidents of drivers trying to run over protesters.

the one in virginia was a known white supremacist

the one in Seattle was not

are you confusing which event the media was referring to ?
 
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Honestly we don't come to that conclusion when you watch the footages.
In fact, the driver stopped himself the car and likely was in panic that's why he used the gun.
Then he went out of the car and ran away(to the police? I don't know). Anyways it doesn't look like a mass shooting attempt.
the guy wanted to disrupt the protests clearly, and he just happened to have a gun.

please dont act like this was just some innocent guy.
 

Hermes

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No, not really, since I was talking about the now and the past 30 years and you had to go back centuries ago like a good script-abiding social justice warrior. lol

If you can't acknowledge the influence of gangsta rap on modern black culture, there is no point.
No I didn't necessarily need to go back 30 years hence why I said look at the neo colonial policies of white countries today. For instance, forcing 3rd world nations like those in Africa to follow climate initiatives that are beyond absurd when not acknowledging there own carbon footprint. Colonialism has not ended its just under a different guise.

The difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying is you truthfully believe this stuff you harp about black people. I don't actually feel white people are violent, or oppressive, or should be held accountable for the actions of the past or the current. I only said what I said to show you how illogical your way of thinking is and get you to see your own bias (which of course its not a bias to you is it).

Of course I can acknowledge the gangsta rap influence on modern rap culture. I also do understand the challenges the black community faces with black on black violence which I personally see as another facet of internalized racism within the community. However, rap music at its core was a social and political tool for the oppressed. Remember it was WHITE music industry owners that made Gangsta Rap popular; the same WHITE music industry owners that currently promote rap music focused on money, drugs and women. This is to further oppress the black community by controlling all forms of media black people consume. Why is black household debt so high? Because popular black culture teaches blacks to spend spend spend and not save save save. Who has a vested interest in this? A capitalist economy.
 

Hermes

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No, not really, since I was talking about the now and the past 30 years and you had to go back centuries ago like a good script-abiding social justice warrior. lol

If you can't acknowledge the influence of gangsta rap on modern black culture, there is no point.
Also no need to slight me....as you yourself have been speaking like a good old racist. See how that works now?
 

justjess

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I guess that depends if they are violent about it or peaceful.

The man didn’t have to be there or be standing still in front of the cops trying to uphold the peace.
That man was out there peacefully protesting and was trying to return a helmet he found. He was a frail elderly man and the cops assaulted him for no reason. He has a right to peaceful protest. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 

justjess

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White culture is oppressive? In what way? What was the civil war about? Which freed the slaves..if it was really oppressive..that wouldn’t have happened and the black people would still be in slavery.

White people are violent? When?

White people are narcissistic? How’s that?

Minneapolis had a lot of blacks in positions of power..and Floyd still died there...
Freed the slaves... from white people who were enslaving them. And the civil war wasn’t actually about slavery anyway, it was a bone that got thrown in to entice a reticent demographic to participate.
 
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Class consciousness lmao. You are like 3 globalist subversive plots behind the times bro
What can I say, I'm old fashioned. I'd not be a very good globalist though. Anarchist and all...


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these white supremacists keep getting darker and darker
Dude looks Latino (and Latino gangs have actually clashed with rioters, since a lot of Latino street gangs are very protective of their neighborhoods) but I know white people that are darker than that. The idea that white people can't be dark skinned is pure WASP bullshit.
 
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The problem with ethnic independence is colonization. How can any country have true ethnic independence when colonization has eradicated any successful possibility of this?
How can any country have true ethnic independence when there's a plethora of ethnicities in that country? Colonialism hasn't eradicated ethnicity, it has modified it to a certain extent (mostly through language, religion and miscegenation), but ethnic identity is still strong among post-colonized peoples, often much stronger than among post-colonizing peoples. Just look at the importance of ethnic identity among black Americans.


That's the problem though then with the data set it makes the assumption that police only shoot those committing violent crimes. That again favours a bias towards the police. If we had data for why the civilians were shot it may give us a clearer picture and could even potentially verify what you're saying. But looking at 2 data sets to do this doesn't work or correlate well at all.
I'm not opposed to seeing the data on why victims were shot. You're not taking into account that I used that set of data in response to Wigi, while using the same data that he/she provided about people getting shot dead by police. I argued that you at least need to measure them against their respective crime rates, which is what I did. I didn't go selectively pick which data sets I was gonna use just to put blacks in a bad light (as if I have to scour the internet in search for those).

Even in your own data set for 2017+2018 it shows that 457 and 399 whites were shot respectively for each year with a population distribution of 77.3%. Blacks were shot 223 and 209 times with a population distribution of 12.7%. These stats alone actually show that blacks are shot disproportionately higher based on their population percentage. They account for not even a quarter of the population whereas whites make up almost 3 quarters. However blacks shot by police statistics are about half the amount of whites shot by police. But somehow this is disregarded for a narrative on violent crimes?
Remember, I choose 2017-2018 because Wigi's data set was for 2017-2018.

Why are you going back to shot dead per capita? My data goes beyond shot dead per capita. It is shot dead per capita against participation in violent crime per capita. It was taken into account for violent crime as well. Did you read the entire post on that data?
 
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No I didn't necessarily need to go back 30 years hence why I said look at the neo colonial policies of white countries today. For instance, forcing 3rd world nations like those in Africa to follow climate initiatives that are beyond absurd when not acknowledging there own carbon footprint. Colonialism has not ended its just under a different guise.

The difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying is you truthfully believe this stuff you harp about black people. I don't actually feel white people are violent, or oppressive, or should be held accountable for the actions of the past or the current. I only said what I said to show you how illogical your way of thinking is and get you to see your own bias (which of course its not a bias to you is it).

Of course I can acknowledge the gangsta rap influence on modern rap culture. I also do understand the challenges the black community faces with black on black violence which I personally see as another facet of internalized racism within the community. However, rap music at its core was a social and political tool for the oppressed. Remember it was WHITE music industry owners that made Gangsta Rap popular; the same WHITE music industry owners that currently promote rap music focused on money, drugs and women. This is to further oppress the black community by controlling all forms of media black people consume. Why is black household debt so high? Because popular black culture teaches blacks to spend spend spend and not save save save. Who has a vested interest in this? A capitalist economy.
Riiight. "WHITE" music industry. "WHITE" Lyor Cohen, Sumner Redstone and Jerry Heller.

How is connecting cause and effect between a violent culture and the actual violence of said targeted demographic as a consequence (direct or indirect) illogical? If I say whites did more drugs and had more promiscuous sex after the rise of sex, drugs and rock'n roll culture, would you call that illogical too?

No man, you're clearly on a mission to prevent any racially oriented criticism towards blacks, by continuously deflecting with what-about-isms on whites. When I criticized American imperialism in the past, you don't go, yeah but what about the Chinese either, do you?

But your point on Capitalism is not wrong. They can both be right. Fuck da Police isn't a very capitalist statement though.
 
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They were already chasing his car when he came around the corner. You're speculating.
perhaps they were chasing his car because he attempted to run people over around the corner as well. The guy also had a double clip taped together on his gun. Yes a peaceful guy indeed, who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

You are speculating as well. Nobody knows for sure, but I think its obvious that somebody doesn't speed up and drive towards protesters with a gun and a double clip just sitting on the passenger seat, with good intentions.
 
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