BTS discussion thread

[Yellowbunzz tasty]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1233235371808391171

Interesting.. any Muslims here who can further explain this theory? This end of life thing seems alarming when it comes to Kookie. He was also the dove and went into the heavens in the mv.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1234545869602639877

This number is starting to creep me out. They place a high value on it as it seems and everything is pre-planned as always. Someone commented that they are illuminati in a joking way below, if only they knew.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1234407694582394881

Is he looking to see if anyone gets it right about their affiliation with the freemasonry?
Also, he really wanted them to find out what his tattoo means, is this a way to warn fans or to make fun of their own ignorance?

Also, that explains why they put Noah references. Everything is about this "new beginning".

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This story is also in Christianity. God told Noah to build an ark for the coming flood and many did not listen since they thought he was crazy. And when the day came of the great flood. The doors of the ark were shut and all those who didn't listen were locked out and drowned.

God did this to purify the world.

When it comes to jungkook doing this.... I dunno since he isn't in the ark maybe he'll die with all the unbelievers, or..... Yeah I was gonna say he may be a good person in this whole bts thingy but naah

 

[Princessssss]

Is it just me or is kpop seemingly overhyped. bts 'on' was labeled #45 on most trending in south Africa yet almost everyone here don't even watch kpop or Asian media in general.

They are overhyped have been overhyped. Its like a technique before they had a lott of fans they have been called ‘big’ ‘sensation’ ‘just like beatles’ . So the new joining fans just believe that , and it creates curiosity witch creates more fans .

 

[taepeach]

Lol tae either speaks a few words or just continues speaking despite the time limit going off like nothing happened. The staff must be like "gosh Taehyung you dont make anything fun is it really that hard?? "

5:44 - Question: "Show us your charm for 7 seconds"
Everyone:
Tae:

Literally what is wrong with him, its so weird how serious and emotionless he acts, but then can talk about armys normally or laugh/smile in another video, which i would also find it a bit weird since we are so used to him being so careless and serious.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1234164388149506051

I wonder what he is talking about..is it that he was surprised that fan knew what he was feeling?? Or was he scared that someone saw his behavior and wanted to hide it from the fans?

 

[Princessssss]

the vlive bts happy birthday is so weird , basically in the begining nj said something about 7x3= 21 . And they keep looking at the side where the staff is probably sitting ( on the side note I feel like these lives are all part of the schedule and not something they just do for fun or ‘suprise’ like they say) .

But the weirdest part was at this video on 32:50 where nj looks at the side stands up and makes a 7 with his whole body three times. What does that mean . After that it looked like they were a bit uncomfortable . I just was weird like 7x3 and then 3 times that 7 body movement.

 

[cadiz]

the vlive bts happy birthday is so weird , basically in the begining nj said something about 7x3= 21 . And they keep looking at the side where the staff is probably sitting ( on the side note I feel like these lives are all part of the schedule and not something they just do for fun or ‘suprise’ like they say) .

But the weirdest part was at this video on 32:50 where nj looks at the side stands up and makes a 7 with his whole body three times. What does that mean . After that it looked like they were a bit uncomfortable . I just was weird like 7x3 and then 3 times that 7 body movement.

that was so weird and awkward. the others looked confused too
and the video last one hour !!! you are correct, vlives are part of the schedule, they have to sit for an hour and pretend they do it for fun

and I found this video from Grammy.s, look at RM hands! while the others pose normally he just has to do the horns and one eye

 

[cadiz]

I disagree. The one who get most screen time is Jimin. Jimin like always the center of everything. Like in every Interview who are the one you mostly see in the front? Jamen and Ratmonster. Jamen are the one is gets all the recognition. And the Black Swan MV all I could see on my screen was Jimin, the whole video might as well been of him. In this forum people seem to talk less about Jimin, mostly they talk about Vee being the most evil and the leader and center of everything when is really Jimin. I don't like Jimin , he seems too proud of himself. He seems to be very egocentric just my opinion To me I believe off cameras Jimin is the one that is the most evil, and rudest one. I think he is the one who wants everything his way.

sorry if my English is bad I am from Czech republic

yes you are correct, BH likes JM a lot too. I saw BTS has a new song with only JM and JK included

Lauv & BTS' Jimin & Jungkook's "Who" Lyrics Tell A Haunting Love Story

And the line distribution from their ON song:

 

[wow]

yes you are correct, BH likes JM a lot too. I saw BTS has a new song with only JM and JK included

Lauv & BTS' Jimin & Jungkook's "Who" Lyrics Tell A Haunting Love Story

And the line distribution from their ON song:

jimin gets the most promotion since he is basically the mk kitten in the group, he does lots of requests so ofc he got something in return.

as for the line distribution on ON, i think its fair cause jk is the main vocal, jm is basically the second main vocal and th and jn are the lead vocals, the rest is rap, raps isnt supposed to take a long time in kpop musics, thus the short lines from the rap line.

 

[FaithAndStrength]

Just a reminder of what I feel like what we sometimes forget.

These boys have killed family members, human lives, children, animals, drank blood, ate human parts, had sex with animals and each other, practice witchcraft, sorcery, and magic, pay homage to satan, and go against the Most High. Please resist any temptations in the name of Jesus that has to do with these unholy creatures.

The only way out of the contract is death, this is probably why they keep repeating their contracts for years so they can be part of the antichrists arrival. Keep in mind satan and his demons are on earth as we speak causing chaos and temptation. The antichrist WILL be satan with a sweet facade. That's why they, and other celebs are still alive.

We're thinking the Tribulation will be a simple, "Resist or receive the mark of the beast" no, it will be so horrific, the world would probably look gray like an old TV show from all of the destruction, not even joking there. Also keep in mind we will all witness each others judgments on Judgment Day. We WILL see bts and every other goathead (satans people; celebs) and the lost who chose to go against Christ, and the lukewarm/cold Christians get sent to the lake of fire. Please do NOT be in any of these categories...

 

[taepeach]

the vlive bts happy birthday is so weird , basically in the begining nj said something about 7x3= 21 . And they keep looking at the side where the staff is probably sitting ( on the side note I feel like these lives are all part of the schedule and not something they just do for fun or ‘suprise’ like they say) .

But the weirdest part was at this video on 32:50 where nj looks at the side stands up and makes a 7 with his whole body three times. What does that mean . After that it looked like they were a bit uncomfortable . I just was weird like 7x3 and then 3 times that 7 body movement.

Yeah sometimes they look serious when they look to the side, it doesnt look like they are just casually looking around. At the very beginning you hear someones breath behind the camera and the sound of them slightly moving/touching it.
13:56 jungkook's smile faded away and he kind of shook/trembled. Starting at 14:10 as J-hobi and jungkook lean back, jungkook does these weird faces and hobi being all smiley gets serious instantly. J-hobi literally keeps this intense glare to the side and is squinting while looking at the members and drinking his drink, with a disgusted/yuck face. He continues on like that until a few more minutes after...it disturbs me how they can be hiding symptoms of trauma/abuse, programming, etc right in front of the camera but you know and see it through their faces.....

23:59 what a nice way to pass scissors how can they even understand what the staff is saying/telling them? Sign language? Code? Cue cards? You also see other idols in vlives look to the side and see them trying to understand what the staff is saying to them

40:28-41:00 jimin does his freezing/spacing out thing. Everyone spaces out all the time but how is it that they immediately fall into a trance after they finish laughing, speaking, etc?? Jimin was acting very babyish/childish, like light headed and giggly the entire vlive.

Its sad to see a vlive like this, where you wish their laughter and interaction was genuine and real...i cant even imagine how betrayed and fascinated i, and even worse, armys will feel to personally see how they really act/are after they turn off the cameras. Completely different people

 

[FaithAndStrength]

The situation is also discussed in this article. (written in 2018)

"Man, K-Pop must be the biggest thing in the United States right now, huh?"
"Well, here’s that pesky “perspective” to get in the way. BTS’s big hit “Fake Love” hit #10 on Billboard four weeks ago. Impressive, right? A week later it dropped below #40. Two weeks after that? It’s #71 and dropping like thugs in a hammer fight in the South Korean thriller “Oldboy”.

BTS’ album, Love Yourself: Tear hit #1 four weeks ago. This week it’s #20, being beaten by Ed Sheeran’s Divide, an album that’s been on the charts for 67 weeks. Oh, and what’s #10 on the Hot 100 this week? The 34 week old Bebe Rexha/Florida Georgia Line Pop/Country crossover “Meant to Be”.

For something considered “popular”, these are pretty weak numbers.

Again, Ed Sheeran’s year-and-three-month-old album managed to bring in more equivalent albums than a brand new BTS album. I think this tells you all you need to know about how truly popular K-Pop is in the US. Maybe if their fans spent more time actually streaming the albums and less time “stanning” their favorite boys on Twitter, that number would be higher.

Oh, and by the way, if you have a look at both the Hot 100 and Top 200? You might notice a significant lack of K-Pop. Over on the album chart I see:

• The Moana soundtrack at #72 (didn’t that movie come out in 2016?)
• Zac Brown Band’s Greatest Hits So Far… at #77 (that must be an EP, right?)
• Taylor Swift’s 1989 at #114 (her 2014 release)

As I made it to #139 I found another K-Pop album: BTS’s Love Yourself: Her. Two spots up at #137 by the way? AC/DC’s Back in Black. The other BTS album in this chart is being beaten by a classic rock album that came out nearly 40 years ago, and in a week when none of their members even died.

Can We Stop Pretending Kpop is Popular?

Man, Kpop must be the biggest f--king thing in the United States right now, huh? Just one issue: Kpop totally sucks, and the charts prove it.

www.digitalmusicnews.com

It is, honestly. I'm in LA and honestly as soon as K-pop came out- actually it's always been a thing, it just wasn't popular back in the early 2000's. I feel like it started slowly developing by 2012-2014 if I'm correct, and now and days it's a huge thing. Ever since bts and other K-pop groups came out, I haven't stopped getting recommendations for Korean videos. Whatever I search up, it can be cooking, video games, fashion, education, movies, the first race I EVER see is Korean now. I'm not hating on Koreans, but where did every other race go? Actually just yesterday, I searched up "Funny videos"

"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"

Also, here's your recommendations!

"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"

Me:

 

[cadiz]

It is, honestly. I'm in LA and honestly as soon as K-pop came out- actually it's always been a thing, it just wasn't popular back in the early 2000's. I feel like it started slowly developing by 2012-2014 if I'm correct, and now and days it's a huge thing. Ever since bts and other K-pop groups came out, I haven't stopped getting recommendations for Korean videos. Whatever I search up, it can be cooking, video games, fashion, education, movies, the first race I EVER see is Korean now. I'm not hating on Koreans, but where did every other race go? Actually just yesterday, I searched up "Funny videos"

"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"

Also, here's your recommendations!

"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"Koreans"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"
"K-pop"

Me:
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I think what that article is saying is that kpop is still not mainstream. You are right the media is pushing kpop groups a lot lately
But the public is not interested in the music. And kpop songs are not popular (not even BT$ songs)

kpop numbers are very fake....fans buy several version of the same album or mass stream the song to break records (on the first weeks)

The writter of the article makes a point here:

"BTS’ album, Love Yourself: Tear hit #1 four weeks ago. This week it’s #20, being beaten by Ed Sheeran’s Divide, an album that’s been on the charts for 67 weeks"

He is saying Ed Sheeran can chart higher than BT$ even with an older album, this happens because Sheeran has the support of the public who listen to his songs on the regular
BT$ on the other hand relies only on fandom, and that's why their "success"on the charts is short lived

 

[Princessssss]

I think what that article is saying is that kpop is still not mainstream. You are right the media is pushing kpop groups a lot lately
But the public is not interested in the music. And kpop songs are not popular (not even BT$ songs)

kpop numbers are very fake....fans buy several version of the same album or mass stream the song to break records (on the first weeks)

The writter of the article makes a point here:

"BTS’ album, Love Yourself: Tear hit #1 four weeks ago. This week it’s #20, being beaten by Ed Sheeran’s Divide, an album that’s been on the charts for 67 weeks"

He is saying Ed Sheeran can chart higher than BT$ even with an older album, this happens because Sheeran has the support of the public who listen to his songs on the regular
BT$ on the other hand relies only on fandom, and that's why their "success"on the charts is short lived

I was also wondering on the youtube viewers thing since the on dance video apparently had over 100 milion vieuws and armys claim that youtube deleted it . Those views were prob bots that youtube detected but I thought what is the provit for youtube to delete those vieuws

 

[cadiz]

I was also wondering on the youtube viewers thing since the on dance video apparently had over 100 milion vieuws and armys claim that youtube deleted it . Those views were prob bots that youtube detected but I thought what is the provit for youtube to delete those vieuws

fans have open tutorials to fake views, and it's easy for Youtube (or anyone) to see how they plan the fake numbers because is all over social media

those videos get 70 million views the first day, and then nobody streams anymore
the numbers are not "organic" and Youtube looks bad if they let BT$ keep breaking records with fake numbers.

 

[numnum]

Hey everyone there, I am new here, I have been seeing and reading many posts here, some people show a true analysis, some just exaggerate, but tbs is evil I think all kpop is evil, in my religion music is prohibited and now I feel why it is. tbs always give me weird vibes but they are normal human beings probably they are worshippers of satan and they do sacrifices and do whatever told to them in return they get fame money and love from their fans. it's an ancient practice performed by many people around the word in simple words it's a black magic. I may be wrong but this is what I have felt and noticed.

 

[Deadlylady]

Did he close his other eye or is it just me. And what's underneath his eye?
It's written: "The shadow like me".
Who or what is the shadow any guesses?

Also funny he wanted to use a fake tattoo as virus reference from a movie way before the one right now was spreading around the world in real life.
What a coincidence!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1233064847912382465

 

[NativeAmericanGma]

Guys, the most annoying thing happened to me,

Yesterday in my French class, I was thinking about telling my acquaintance about bts, and she's actually a Jehovahs Witness, but she sure is deceived (and that religion isn't good...trust me) so I asked, "Have you seen the ON mv?" She glared at me and replied, "You're late, I been saw that as soon as it came out." She acts very egocentric and cocky, and talking about bts makes it worse. I was honestly like, "Okay I don't think it's my duty to tell her, let me just change the subject"

So when we were doing our work, I noticed she had name stickers of bts decorated all over her laptop. She noticed my staring and smiled. Here's what annoyed me: She picked off the V name sticker and put it on MY laptop as if I wanted it. I just looked at her and said, "I don't want this on my laptop," she just asked, "Why? I love tae!" I glared at the name sticker and said, "I HATE bts, ESPECIALLY TAE"

So I snatched the name sticker off and put it on the table. I noticed she had a displeased expression and so I quickly regained myself and said, "Heh, I wasn't serious..." she just smiled and went back to work. I shouldn't have said that out loud, but my hatred just flared.

Hello. I'm new here. I was an older ARMY, and I also have a JW background. I have a different opinion than you about that religion, but there's really no need to get into all that. It would appear that most of us are here because we found ourselves down the rabbit hole and something alarmed us enough to climb out of it. It's hard. I've got family members who think I'm nuts right now because I can't get them to see what I'm seeing. I was arguably more into b+s than even they were - but the MV On snapped me out of it.

All that to say, that I think you should at least mention that the religious symbolism in that video (Noah, crown of thorns, misuse of God's symbolism of doves, and seeming to be calling for a fight with God and trying to "get to heaven" (Pride Rock being a modern Tower of Babel. And heaven, a theme in the album, and especially on Bulletproof Eternal), lines like "find me and I'm gonna live with ya", "find me and I'm gonna bleed with ya" - should all disturb her according to a person raised in the JW faith that you've communicated with online. The lines in On, in Korean of course, about "choosing to descend into the dark abyss" before he blows the shell calling the dark forces. It was too much. And at first I didn't get it. I watched it probably 10 times before everything started clicking.

I'm not 100% about the Illuminati stuff, but I feel quite certain that removing this music from my life was one of the most correct decisions of my life.

 

[Lily-Blue]

Hello. I'm new here. I was an older ARMY, and I also have a JW background. I have a different opinion than you about that religion, but there's really no need to get into all that. It would appear that most of us are here because we found ourselves down the rabbit hole and something alarmed us enough to climb out of it. It's hard. I've got family members who think I'm nuts right now because I can't get them to see what I'm seeing. I was arguably more into b+s than even they were - but the MV On snapped me out of it.

All that to say, that I think you should at least mention that the religious symbolism in that video (Noah, crown of thorns, misuse of God's symbolism of doves, and seeming to be calling for a fight with God and trying to "get to heaven" (Pride Rock being a modern Tower of Babel. And heaven, a theme in the album, and especially on Bulletproof Eternal), lines like "find me and I'm gonna live with ya", "find me and I'm gonna bleed with ya" - should all disturb her according to a person raised in the JW faith that you've communicated with online. The lines in On, in Korean of course, about "choosing to descend into the dark abyss" before he blows the shell calling the dark forces. It was too much. And at first I didn't get it. I watched it probably 10 times before everything started clicking.

I'm not 100% about the Illuminati stuff, but I feel quite certain that removing this music from my life was one of the most correct decisions of my life.

Hello! I agree with your excellent assessment, particularly of the 0N video. It's why I signed up here, where I found many people way ahead of me in understanding how evil this group can be. I watched this video with the sound off, which for some reason made it easier to catch where the symbolism was going. So many Biblical references not giving glory to God – truly shocking to see the Lord dissed so blatantly. TH mocking the crucifixion! He actually put that out there. These people, who I love against my own will when I see them in videos (like I myself have been brainwashed) are shameless and clearly have no qualms committing blasphemy. And the Tower of Babel absolutely, how clear that they were returning there. Good luck to them making it to heaven that way. Little wretches. NJ their shepherd makes me furious for leading them astray or at least making himself available for the purpose. But it's not even him. The whole system, K-pop, the entire music industry and beyond, is lost.

 

[NativeAmericanGma]

Also, that Satanic looking church Suga was in. I tried to look up the symbols behind him. They seem to be a blend of philosophical and mathematic symbolism. To the best of my ability it appeared to mean an alleged new beginning for all, but with the caveat that if any part of the equation is not matched, the equation becomes untrue. Just like all satanic reasoning, it's just enough truth to suck you in, but not enough truth to actually deliver. They sure did the old bait and switch on this song by putting out the dance video first. Make you love the cadences of the song so that you are lulled into accepting the symbolism later. And I was clueless till I stumbled upon this site that there was such a strong homosexual undercurrent going on - from the beginning until now.

I am appalled with myself that I came to believe that k-pop was harmless to the point I stopped looking up lyrics. I once felt relief that I didn't have to worry about this genre because it was wholesome and catchy. I feel so duped. My 2 k-pop fan daughters (one is married, the other is still a teen) think I've lost my mind. Less than 2 weeks ago I was streaming stuff like crazy and looking forward to the concert. Now I'm hoping coronavirus gets it canceled. I threw out the album and all of my daughter's posters. Of course she hates me - but I couldn't sleep with them in the house anymore.

This is not going to be easy, but I'm not blind anymore and all kinds of things are about to happen globally. I need to stay woke to face them.

 

[FaithAndStrength]

Also, that Satanic looking church Suga was in. I tried to look up the symbols behind him. They seem to be a blend of philosophical and mathematic symbolism. To the best of my ability it appeared to mean an alleged new beginning for all, but with the caveat that if any part of the equation is not matched, the equation becomes untrue. Just like all satanic reasoning, it's just enough truth to suck you in, but not enough truth to actually deliver. They sure did the old bait and switch on this song by putting out the dance video first. Make you love the cadences of the song so that you are lulled into accepting the symbolism later. And I was clueless till I stumbled upon this site that there was such a strong homosexual undercurrent going on - from the beginning until now.

I am appalled with myself that I came to believe that k-pop was harmless to the point I stopped looking up lyrics. I once felt relief that I didn't have to worry about this genre because it was wholesome and catchy. I feel so duped. My 2 k-pop fan daughters (one is married, the other is still a teen) think I've lost my mind. Less than 2 weeks ago I was streaming stuff like crazy and looking forward to the concert. Now I'm hoping coronavirus gets it canceled. I threw out the album and all of my daughter's posters. Of course she hates me - but I couldn't sleep with them in the house anymore.

This is not going to be easy, but I'm not blind anymore and all kinds of things are about to happen globally. I need to stay woke to face them.

That's good you're on Gods side facing away from those evil unholy creatures we call humans. I personally don't consider them human anymore, they're just a cunning (like a snake) shell deceiving others while on the inside, they're nothing but withered dark remains who possess no souls whatsoever. I honestly will pray for your two daughters. I know how hard it is, I'm a teenager myself. Although I've been fully delivered after nearly a year, I still kind of go back just to read stories (fanfics) about them but as soon as I read them, I immediately delete the page coming back to my senses and do something else. We all have free will, but I believe you taking the albums and posters from your daughter (the teen one I'm assuming) was a good parental thing. I sincerely hope they get into the word of God, have a relationship with him, and soon enough go against these monsters, including basically nearly everyone in the entertainment industry knowing they're of satan.

Yes, people who don't know the truth will deem you crazy, but know they'll persecute (mock, insult, hopefully not death) you because they persecuted Jesus. Know that the world hated him before it hated you.

 

[Shen]

what i recently thought about is if betees is really "the" problem after all. like yes I notice all those signs, too
for example

at 0:33 BOi no thanks it kinda makes me want to throw up

but still, i just think even if they get less popular or even if they wouldn't have existed at all it wouldn't have changed anything because those musicians are just puppets. we don't even know who's really behind everything...
and i think satanists/illuminatis will get exposed in politics first because in my opinion that's the core issue.

idk i just wanted to leave this here

I personally started to focus more on political changes than on the music industry (but i still have an open eye ofc)
it's just less depressing than to watch jm TELLING FANS THEYRE PUTTING SPELLS ON THEM and all those fans being a blind sheep and enjoying it.