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manama

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And this dubious individual is making the claim over a post were I called Lisa out for having no understanding of the Tetragrammaton and taking her false "Yahweh" name created out of the roots as some kind of self-evident fact :rolleyes:
Same thing applies with other made up names applied to the same root like "Jehovah", "Yehovah", "Yohwah", "Yahuah" etc

The only thing serious theologians, scholars and historians can agree on there is that the actual pronounciation of it is a mystery.
And of course the fact that basically every English translation replaces that word with the generic "The Lord"

There are so many levels of irony in this, considering that Lisa also claims that words that mean "God" in other languages actually mean "Satan" :rolleyes:
(this too would count if we find the natural conclusion of such illogic - that Jesus when he spoke about "Theos" that he was actually talking about Satan too, lmao)

And the ongoing disaster of her not even being able to admit that the Bible wasn't written in English :D


Anyway, I have a hunch that Elehcim is probably Axl888.
Its Lisa afterall LOL
 

Lisa

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And this dubious individual is making the claim over a post were I called Lisa out for having no understanding of the Tetragrammaton and taking her false "Yahweh" name created out of the roots as some kind of self-evident fact :rolleyes:
Same thing applies with other made up names applied to the same root like "Jehovah", "Yehovah", "Yohwah", "Yahuah" etc

The only thing serious theologians, scholars and historians can agree on there is that the actual pronounciation of it is a mystery.
And of course the fact that basically every English translation replaces that word with the generic "The Lord"

There are so many levels of irony in this, considering that Lisa also claims that words that mean "God" in other languages actually mean "Satan" :rolleyes:
(this too would count if we find the natural conclusion of such illogic - that Jesus when he spoke about "Theos" that he was actually talking about Satan too, lmao)

And the ongoing disaster of her not even being able to admit that the Bible wasn't written in English :D


Anyway, I have a hunch that Elehcim is probably Axl888.
How is YHWH and Yahweh different? Lol! I could see if I said God’s name was Bob...but I do say His name is Yahweh..I just added vowels. :rolleyes: Could you come up with any lamer argument than that?

Just because your god is named god in your language..doesn’t really make him a god. If you aren’t praying or learning from the one true God..you are then learning from satan, don’t ya think. Would God disguise Himself as other gods and then those gods are opposed to the one true God of the Bible? Nope! Only satan would pose as other gods because he’d like for people to worship him and he is the liar and the murderer from the beginning...so when your religion wants its adherents to murder others and mistreat others..it surely can’t be from God who doesn’t want any of that, can it?

Then there’s the issue of Jesus..when the God of the Bible says Jesus is His Son, with whom He is well pleased..calling Him His only begotten Son but when other religions reject all that...you can’t seriously think your god is the God, can you?

What disaster? God wants everyone to be saved, He knows all languages..because He’s the one that confused the languages in the first place. He totally could bring in the right translations of his world for the world to read. He doesn’t keep people in the dark on purpose to just thrown them into the lake of fire where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth..He want’s people to be saved!!! He doesn’t want any to perish..but of course He won’t make anyone believe...its our choice.
 

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You still have not answered my question about the passage that I asked you about in Isaiah. Don't eh. Explain.. I'm still waiting.
You’re the one that said I misquoted this verse in Isaiah...
Isaiah‬ ‭5:20-21‬ ‭
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!
Why don’t you tell me how I misquoted it, instead of trying to deflect to something else?
 

Alanantic

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@Alanantic Well, if you do not believe in God, why are you taking a quote of Gandhi's and twisting it for your own purpose.
1) Gandhi was a believer in God, and a devout Hindu. He was religious. He also read the Gospels and loved Christ according to his family.
2) The quote you are misusing was about the sectarian extremist govt factions in India at the time. He wanted India to be secular after British colonialism. He was against the Indian Hindu factions extreme sectarianism.. especially against Muslims. (the second largest religion in India besides Hinduism) He saw an India that respected all faiths, not just Hindus. That was why he was murdered.
These days, the same facist Hindu faction has risen again to power through Mohdi- and are persecuting Muslims, Sikhs and Christians.

The quote never was against religion, it was for interfaith against bigots.
And Gandhi was a true believer in God, and religious.
I find your taking his words, and twisting them out of context for your own MO disingenuous at best, and insulting to Gandhi's legacy at worst.
I didn't say I didn't believe in God. I don't believe in "belief" as a criteria for spirituality. The only thing anyone knows for sure is their own sense of self. The rest are educated, or uneducated guesses. As for Gandhi, you obviously know more than I do. But I truly think the quote is true, regardless of who said it. It just makes sense...if there IS a God. I consider the concept of God as being beyond human comprehension, therefore, beyond "belief".
 

Lisa

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I consider the concept of God as being beyond human comprehension, therefore, beyond "belief".
Everyone believe is something though, whether they can see it or not. I believe in the wind...I can’t see it but I can see its results. Likewise, I can’t see God, but I can see the results of God who created all things.
 

Elehcim

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And this dubious individual is making the claim over a post were I called Lisa out for having no understanding of the Tetragrammaton and taking her false "Yahweh" name created out of the roots as some kind of self-evident fact :rolleyes:
Same thing applies with other made up names applied to the same root like "Jehovah", "Yehovah", "Yohwah", "Yahuah" etc

The only thing serious theologians, scholars and historians can agree on there is that the actual pronounciation of it is a mystery.
And of course the fact that basically every English translation replaces that word with the generic "The Lord"

There are so many levels of irony in this, considering that Lisa also claims that words that mean "God" in other languages actually mean "Satan" :rolleyes:
(this too would count if we find the natural conclusion of such illogic - that Jesus when he spoke about "Theos" that he was actually talking about Satan too, lmao)

And the ongoing disaster of her not even being able to admit that the Bible wasn't written in English :D


Anyway, I have a hunch that Elehcim is probably Axl888.
Yesh get a freakin life.
 

floss

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Being Scimitar was tough on the old boards lol some us preferred to build bridges but all it takes is one fool with a match to burn them down - enter the troll floss - in the end, I totally lost it and went ape, engineering my own ban lol which I still see as something I had to do if I was to move past the BS and find some ME time in order to keep building bridges by learning to ace other media platforms instead of forums. Thank God for His intervention and timing, I’m now able to build bridges with non Muslims and without a fool with a matchbox in sight!

God is truly Great.

Once again, thank you Stephania!
Engineering your own ban? Don't you mean harassing little girl (Mecca)? You sure have similar attribute to your prophet :) , glad you've moved on :)
Doubt any muslims actually watched OP's video for the truth.
 
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DesertRose

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Engineering your own ban? Don't you mean harassing little girl (Mecca)? You sure have similar attribute to your prophet .... ,
May the Creator guide you to that which is better in belief and in manners. Ameen.
This post is for others who are fair minded.

This topic has been addressed numerous times the norm for marriage back in the day was early marriage and consummation after puberty and this was the norm not just in the East but in the West as well.
The teenage years are a relatively new concept.

Note well, the dates below are much later than the time of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him.
"In the book, ‘Sex and Society’,
“Until the late 20th century U.S. age of consent laws specifically names males as perpetrators and females as victims. Following English law, in which the age was set at 12 in 1275 and lowered to 10 in 1576, ages of consent in the American colonies were generally set at 10 or 12."
source:
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https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/
Quran 10:99-100- And had your LORD willed, those on earth would have believed- all of them, entirely. Then, O Prophet(PBUH), would you compell the people against their will in order that they become believers? And it is not for a soul to believe, except by permission of GOD, and he will place defilement upon those who will not use reason.
 
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Elehcim

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And this dubious individual is making the claim over a post were I called Lisa out for having no understanding of the Tetragrammaton and taking her false "Yahweh" name created out of the roots as some kind of self-evident fact :rolleyes:
Same thing applies with other made up names applied to the same root like "Jehovah", "Yehovah", "Yohwah", "Yahuah" etc

The only thing serious theologians, scholars and historians can agree on there is that the actual pronounciation of it is a mystery.
And of course the fact that basically every English translation replaces that word with the generic "The Lord"

There are so many levels of irony in this, considering that Lisa also claims that words that mean "God" in other languages actually mean "Satan" :rolleyes:
(this too would count if we find the natural conclusion of such illogic - that Jesus when he spoke about "Theos" that he was actually talking about Satan too, lmao)

And the ongoing disaster of her not even being able to admit that the Bible wasn't written in English :D


Anyway, I have a hunch that Elehcim is probably Axl888.
Do you just make this crap up when you’re hitting your bong? Then recite them back on here from the notebook you’ve scribbled them down on after you’ve sobered up thinking you’ve been “enlighted”? You don’t even make any logical sense with your arguments. You throw these “facts” out like you know so much. Please. Show some EVIDENCE. If you can’t prove it, then just SHUT UP. You fight like a little girl in 5th grade who thinks she’s the smartest and the best, but goes home and cries because she hates herself. If you want people to respect what you have to say, #1 Have concrete evidence (Biblical) to back up what you say #2 Refrain from the verbal vomiting of “facts” you can’t even back up #3 Try on some humility

THAT IS ALL.
 
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