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Lanino21 said:
Hello~

Thank you for your information :) i also think that they make things obvious for certain people. I think that there are always some very 'important' people on their events, and they throw these satanic signs and show all the symbolism just for them. Also, have you noticed that two of the members (yg and th) are always wearing different clothes than the rest. Maybe it's because these people have to recognize them for some reason? Also, there is almost no doubt that they are all under mk ultra, i have found a lot of such symbolism in their work. What do you think?

Also, i can see that you are a very good Christian. I agree with what you said about God, i'm very very very glad that He told me the truth. He really cares about all of us and wants us to be safe :) but what breaks my heart is that i know that He cares about every single person on this planet, even bts members, and it probably hurts him to see them following the devil instead of Him. I think that in the Bible, He said that if He could, He would take everyone with Him, but He gave us free will, and everyone can decide who to follow, so sadly, not everyone will be saved. In God's eyes, we are all the same and he loves us all. We are all His creations, satan didn't create anyone, because all he can do is destroy. And he is destroying humans...thats why we have evil people on this world. Because satan destroyed them. And that's why, my grandma who has been a Christian ever since she was 6 told me that i shouldn't hate on anyone, and that i should pray for bts and everyone else who is being tricked by satan. I don't wish anyone death. God loves everyone, and i know that he wants all those satanists and criminals to change and come to Him. That gives us all a good reason to not hate on anyone, because God loves them just as he loves us. He also says 'love your enemies' but that is very hard, so there is also a saying 'if you can't forgive them, pray for them'. I'm not sure if that was in the Bible, was it? So yes...i pray for everyone, including bts, because i know that is the right thing to do. And that also calms me down. You know, you are very lucky to have family that supports you in your religion, i'm not allowed to be religious because my mom is an atheist and she is against Christianity, so it's very hard for me to find time to read the Bible or pray because i have to hide everything in order to keep peace in the house...if i was allowed, i would go to 7th day adventist's church with my grandma :) have you ever heard about 7th day adventists? You can check it on the internet. Or i can tell you more if you want :) what type of Christian are you? Also, it's okay, you explained everything very well :)
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Totally agree !
 
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justhuman said:
http://instagr.am/p/B4C2xXOJjqw/ On 2nd slide, is it comfort eat pizza with that hand pose ???
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th is not so subtle with that hand sign while holding a pizza, when i first saw it, i was like "okay, i definetly know whats going on there with your hand situation, youre not slick, bitch" same thing goes for yg and jn i mean, why? just why?

tokopedia is from my country, Indonesia, and i have lost my respect for them, im never gonna buy anything from their app or even download the app.

theres also a shopping app called shopee, bl4ckpink as their ambassador, also an instant coffee product which has nctea on their commercial.

wtf is happening to my country :)
 
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inquisitor said:
The ss with the boy and sword has many rocks in circles.But,if you look at the rocks,they are hands pointing their index fingers at the boy and at the viewer.It's a kind of hypnosis.
When the boy picks up sword,it illuminates.I'm pretty sure it's a reference to the legend of King Arthur and Excalibur.
King Arthur has a special place in freemasonry and Knights Templars.There is even a King Arthur masonic lodge.
Also,apparently the legends are re-enacted in the ceremonies of knights templar.
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Oh ..interesting..
Hands hold a special place in beetees Mvs ..
Reminded me of fake love Mv set ..and FL stage in MAMA award with 2 big inflated hands ..and the ending with jin and k00ks hands ...

I want to know more about king Arthur's story ... :)
Can you explain a bit more.. ?
 
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Hopeful said:
All in Cash ... ahem ..

But ..but ..he had no solo album hits like h0peworlds or any decent hit solo song ...

Oh Welllll ...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187894114437582848
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If Forbes is to be trusted they earned at least 8 million USD each last year alone, and probably just at much if not more this year. Of course this is what they earn legally, don’t know if they have illegal businesses on the side like YG. Jhope can pay millions for a song. I’m telling you these guys have sold their souls for this and are not fed up. They will keep doing whatever as long as the cash is rolling in, such as going to MbS. And the effects are starting to show on their faces, none of them are pleasant to look at. This guy I used to think was one of the better ones, but his face has started to look different, no innocence left in the eyes.
Now it creeps me out just as much as one-eyed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187312815092174848
 
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If Forbes is to be trusted they earned at least 8 million USD each last year alone, and probably just at much if not more this year. Of course this is what they earn legally, don’t know if they have illegal businesses on the side like YG. Jhope can pay millions for a song. I’m telling you these guys have sold their souls for this and are not fed up. They will keep doing whatever as long as the cash is rolling in, such as going to MbS. And the effects are starting to show on their faces, none of them are pleasant to look at. This guy I used to think was one of the better ones, but his face has started to look different, no innocence left in the eyes.
Now it creeps me out just as much as one-eyed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187312815092174848
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True hmmm. ..

The innocence leaves or stays on the face according to the deeds we do. . . With age.
 
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Hi guys
I hope your well
Recently I’ve been watching a kdrama called Your Honor starring Yoon Shi Yoon and You Young Lee
I found this drama quite intriguing, as they discuss topics like exploitation of females in the work place and the rich being above the law. They have a character playing a Kpop star who is involved in a drug scandal and is associated with Rich older chairmen of legal companies. Yoon shi upon who plays the judge said something interesting to her. He said that if she was a bad person she should at least be genuine in front of her fans as they are the only people who genuinely support her.
The whole drama could be a link to the korean industry and if so scandals like the Seungri case and Sullis death are a lot more sinister - it’s true in some essence people allow money to be above the law but only in Gods court justice will be served
 
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ShiningCarat14 said:
He looks pure evil
You can see it in his eyes
He lost all his purity after the Blood Sweat and Tears era his change was phenomenal
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I honestly don't know what to say. When it showed the part of him sitting down, his eyes as you said looked evil. Actually from my point of view, they looked SICK. He looks evil, sick, and defeated. That's tea right?? Because all of a sudden I can't really recognize him sometimes. He's not victorious at all.
 
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Lanino21 said:
Well, everyone has their own opinion, and i respect that! There are many people who changed and went from evil to good, that's what makes me think so. And for those satanists, there are many of them who escaped, its because they finally realized that they were making huge mistake in their life, and then, they turned to God and he accepted them and loved just as he loves his people. Read the parable of the lost sheep, i'm pretty sure that if you read the Bible you have already read it, it talks about what i said before. Anyways, i'm not trying to change your mind because you are a very nice and honest person, and you are loyal to God, which is amazing :)

Also, one more thing, the name 'Lanino' is actually just a nickname that i use in some of my social media profiles, my name is actually Lana hahahah :D
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Ah, I pray to look at this from God's perspective instead of coming to my own conclusions. Also, Lana is a unique name! Usually people I meet have very common names,
but that one is -> ( ✧Д✧)YES!!

Also, thanks for the compliments, need more like you :3 (I feel like that's something older ppl would say, but I mean it regardless)
 
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Hello, everyone, I am Jade. Nice to meet you all~

I have been following this thread for some time and I think it is time to become part of it. I have a question to ask all of you, I apologize if maybe it is the wrong thread, but I am most familiar with this one and the KPOP satanic influences one. I have never written/ took part in a forum or anything on the internet, I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or I don't understand how to use it properly... And I am sorry for the long post:

My problem is, I will have to hold some presentations at university but I feel like these are some opportunities to warn people on a lot of subjects and that it is my duty to talk about them (the Bible says something like if the watchman doesn't warn people and they die, their blood will be on the watchman's head) :
- at one presentation we have to talk about ourselves, like to introduce ourselves and whatever, but the teacher said that I could talk about whatever subject I am passionate about. It will be weird, everyone talks 3 minutes about their dog but here I come with a 100 slides powerpoint :(
- another one is about art, I could maybe talk a bit more easily about freemasonry and occult/oriental/Buddhist influences in Christian paintings and all

How can I talk with my classmates about MK-ultra, the Bible or this kind of topic? I think they are atheists mostly/lukewarm Christians(new age), maybe they will get very sensitive about religion and all... like if you were raised since young with the wrong doctrine, you will leave it super hardly when you get older...

I do not want to fail and make them even colder to God and MK ultra etc. Like the more you hear about the Illuminati, the more you will get desensitized, thinking its a joke (I mean this for close-eyed people). Maybe they already know that something is wrong yet they are thinking: How is this really influencing my life, why should I care anyway?

I have studied a lot on these topics, yet I see everyone around me so deceived, so ignorant (some of my classmates even have BTS notebooks, clothes, phone-wallpapers), I feel so tied up, I feel so powerless... and I feel that I am also growing colder and colder, giving up on warning them and studying myself...

What are your opinions? How could I make my presentations attractive to someone deceived? Or should I just do them like the other classmates and don't even open the subject? I am afraid also that if I talk too much about MK-ULTRA and freemasonry and they don't understand it, they could think that I am pro-masonry and all...

Whenever you have time, please tell me what are your ideas and please pray for me and my classmates, and basically for everyone...
I am sorry again for the long post, if I seemed arrogant or selfish or if I offended anyone.
Thank you for reading this, have a nice day~ :)

God bless you!
 
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hb0805 said:
Hello, everyone, I am Jade. Nice to meet you all~

I have been following this thread for some time and I think it is time to become part of it. I have a question to ask all of you, I apologize if maybe it is the wrong thread, but I am most familiar with this one and the KPOP satanic influences one. I have never written/ took part in a forum or anything on the internet, I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or I don't understand how to use it properly... And I am sorry for the long post:

My problem is, I will have to hold some presentations at university but I feel like these are some opportunities to warn people on a lot of subjects and that it is my duty to talk about them (the Bible says something like if the watchman doesn't warn people and they die, their blood will be on the watchman's head) :
- at one presentation we have to talk about ourselves, like to introduce ourselves and whatever, but the teacher said that I could talk about whatever subject I am passionate about. It will be weird, everyone talks 3 minutes about their dog but here I come with a 100 slides powerpoint :(
- another one is about art, I could maybe talk a bit more easily about freemasonry and occult/oriental/Buddhist influences in Christian paintings and all

How can I talk with my classmates about MK-ultra, the Bible or this kind of topic? I think they are atheists mostly/lukewarm Christians(new age), maybe they will get very sensitive about religion and all... like if you were raised since young with the wrong doctrine, you will leave it super hardly when you get older...

I do not want to fail and make them even colder to God and MK ultra etc. Like the more you hear about the Illuminati, the more you will get desensitized, thinking its a joke (I mean this for close-eyed people). Maybe they already know that something is wrong yet they are thinking: How is this really influencing my life, why should I care anyway?

I have studied a lot on these topics, yet I see everyone around me so deceived, so ignorant (some of my classmates even have BTS notebooks, clothes, phone-wallpapers), I feel so tied up, I feel so powerless... and I feel that I am also growing colder and colder, giving up on warning them and studying myself...

What are your opinions? How could I make my presentations attractive to someone deceived? Or should I just do them like the other classmates and don't even open the subject? I am afraid also that if I talk too much about MK-ULTRA and freemasonry and they don't understand it, they could think that I am pro-masonry and all...

Whenever you have time, please tell me what are your ideas and please pray for me and my classmates, and basically for everyone...
I am sorry again for the long post, if I seemed arrogant or selfish or if I offended anyone.
Thank you for reading this, have a nice day~ :)

God bless you!
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Hi
Nice to see you ...

I am afraid with topics like introductions and some likes and dislikes and arts .. you can't fit inthe Mk ultra or freemasonry in there.. and the time is only 3 minutes?

You just can't fit enough information in that particular little time ...

You should look for a better chance to speak on these topics .. the very little time margin will only leave people confused and maybe it will become a problem for you later ..as all the people still really don't believe these things.. what if this makes your school or college life tough for you ..

Think carefully before doing it ...
 
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Hopeful said:
Hi
Nice to see you ...

I am afraid with topics like introductions and some likes and dislikes and arts .. you can't fit inthe Mk ultra or freemasonry in there.. and the time is only 3 minutes?

You just can't fit enough information in that particular little time ...

You should look for a better chance to speak on these topics .. the very little time margin will only leave people confused and maybe it will become a problem for you later ..as all the people still really don't believe these things.. what if this makes your school or college life tough for you ..

Think carefully before doing it ...
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Thank you for your advice~

The time would be maybe 10-15 minutes, but the others (till now) chose to end it short. I gave some sketches/notes on what I want to talk about to my teacher, she said that as long as I am passionate about this, it's okay to talk about it...It is a small group, maybe 10-20 students

About being bullied/having a bad relationship with the others... I am anyways a lone wolf, I don't talk much with them, and maybe if we pray to God, this could have a good impact on them?

I will consider all the factors, thank you for reading my posts and for advising me! :)
 
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hb0805 said:
Hello, everyone, I am Jade. Nice to meet you all~

I have been following this thread for some time and I think it is time to become part of it. I have a question to ask all of you, I apologize if maybe it is the wrong thread, but I am most familiar with this one and the KPOP satanic influences one. I have never written/ took part in a forum or anything on the internet, I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or I don't understand how to use it properly... And I am sorry for the long post:

My problem is, I will have to hold some presentations at university but I feel like these are some opportunities to warn people on a lot of subjects and that it is my duty to talk about them (the Bible says something like if the watchman doesn't warn people and they die, their blood will be on the watchman's head) :
- at one presentation we have to talk about ourselves, like to introduce ourselves and whatever, but the teacher said that I could talk about whatever subject I am passionate about. It will be weird, everyone talks 3 minutes about their dog but here I come with a 100 slides powerpoint :(
- another one is about art, I could maybe talk a bit more easily about freemasonry and occult/oriental/Buddhist influences in Christian paintings and all

How can I talk with my classmates about MK-ultra, the Bible or this kind of topic? I think they are atheists mostly/lukewarm Christians(new age), maybe they will get very sensitive about religion and all... like if you were raised since young with the wrong doctrine, you will leave it super hardly when you get older...

I do not want to fail and make them even colder to God and MK ultra etc. Like the more you hear about the Illuminati, the more you will get desensitized, thinking its a joke (I mean this for close-eyed people). Maybe they already know that something is wrong yet they are thinking: How is this really influencing my life, why should I care anyway?

I have studied a lot on these topics, yet I see everyone around me so deceived, so ignorant (some of my classmates even have BTS notebooks, clothes, phone-wallpapers), I feel so tied up, I feel so powerless... and I feel that I am also growing colder and colder, giving up on warning them and studying myself...

What are your opinions? How could I make my presentations attractive to someone deceived? Or should I just do them like the other classmates and don't even open the subject? I am afraid also that if I talk too much about MK-ULTRA and freemasonry and they don't understand it, they could think that I am pro-masonry and all...

Whenever you have time, please tell me what are your ideas and please pray for me and my classmates, and basically for everyone...
I am sorry again for the long post, if I seemed arrogant or selfish or if I offended anyone.
Thank you for reading this, have a nice day~ :)

God bless you!
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Hello my love, nice to see you here!
I'm glad you've been updated with this thread! As for your question, I believe you'd have to ask God on that one. It depends on if he wants you to tell them or not though I get where you're coming from. Usually when I tell people about this at times God doesn't want me to, I feel down for a while so it really depends if God tells you it's okay to do so.

I personally think you shouldn't talk about satanic things, but rather things about God. I mean ofc you can include satan and warn them about him but mk ultra and stuff? Maybe it'd be better if you have a conversation with them one on one with it.

Well overall, it's best to just listen to God and have everything prepared and listen to what he wants you to tell them.

You said you're growing colder and colder and have less time for studying? I understand. Being around a dead sinful environment for hours can cause that, sometimes it happens to me at school but all I have to do is remember, "Okay, if no one wants to learn about God, that's on them. I'm his child however, and I refuse to quit worshipping him even in this final time period I'm in. It's hard but I'm going to succeed. After all, satan is already defeated and soon enough, he will be defeated officially by God himself AND his people. No time for quitting"

Also, there were times I'd completely abandon God. Most depressing times of my life. I'd let anything stray me away from God to the point where I couldn't take care of myself or even feel love towards my own family.

There must've been a reason why he came back to me over and over again. That same reason applies to you, and I can see that.

Anyways, this is my response. Feel free to tell me what you think!
 
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Hopeful said:
Hi
Nice to see you ...

I am afraid with topics like introductions and some likes and dislikes and arts .. you can't fit inthe Mk ultra or freemasonry in there.. and the time is only 3 minutes?

You just can't fit enough information in that particular little time ...

You should look for a better chance to speak on these topics .. the very little time margin will only leave people confused and maybe it will become a problem for you later ..as all the people still really don't believe these things.. what if this makes your school or college life tough for you ..

Think carefully before doing it ...
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I'm sorry, but all of those "... " between your words make me feel nervous and giggly.
 
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FaithAndStrength said:
Hello my love, nice to see you here!
I'm glad you've been updated with this thread! As for your question, I believe you'd have to ask God on that one. It depends on if he wants you to tell them or not though I get where you're coming from. Usually when I tell people about this at times God doesn't want me to, I feel down for a while so it really depends if God tells you it's okay to do so.

I personally think you shouldn't talk about satanic things, but rather things about God. I mean ofc you can include satan and warn them about him but mk ultra and stuff? Maybe it'd be better if you have a conversation with them one on one with it.

Well overall, it's best to just listen to God and have everything prepared and listen to what he wants you to tell them.

You said you're growing colder and colder and have less time for studying? I understand. Being around a dead sinful environment for hours can cause that, sometimes it happens to me at school but all I have to do is remember, "Okay, if no one wants to learn about God, that's on them. I'm his child however, and I refuse to quit worshipping him even in this final time period I'm in. It's hard but I'm going to succeed. After all, satan is already defeated and soon enough, he will be defeated officially by God himself AND his people. No time for quitting"

Also, there were times I'd completely abandon God. Most depressing times of my life. I'd let anything stray me away from God to the point where I couldn't take care of myself or even feel love towards my own family.

There must've been a reason why he came back to me over and over again. That same reason applies to you, and I can see that.

Anyways, this is my response. Feel free to tell me what you think!
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Thank you for your answer~

There was another member too that suggested asking God first to see if He wants me to expose something, but how can I be sure that the answer I get is from God? What do you think or how do you know, from your experience?

And also, I am a bit new, I see that it could be harmful to us to expose something, but still, I think that God wants us always to expose evil, and if we suffer from it, He will help us get stronger through bullying and everything bad that could happen... can you please explain to me why would God not want it? I am a bit confused... sorry if I seemed offensive.

Regarding the topic, maybe not MK-ultra, but any ?awakening? topic would do. What do you think would be the right choice of an presentation to someone close-eyed? Thank you :)
 
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