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Just how time flies..
Just months back feels like few backs.. We had the longest blood moon lunar eclipse and i witnessed it.. And the posts here were full of blood moon stuff

And the January one seemed sooo far away to me.. But look.. It's here.. Time is running out.. Real fast...

I have 4 pages of the thread to catch on and it keeps on increasing :D..

Guys the tae crying issue.. I think it was legit crying .. That boy couldn't stop till the end and he does start shaking after performances.. It's like before performances they're injected with some drug which hypes them. Up but ends in shaky hands. Which we often don't catch after the performances... Just a thought ...
True that i agree 100%
Life's really getting ahead so fast..

However the odds say otherwise in his favour but still i would also like to interpret it in this way that maybe just maybe he actually broke down. Many stars break down like this on stage.
I'm not saying he was overwhelmed or anything. But maybe he might've had stuff going on in his head and thats how many people on this thread said there are triggers to emotions of these controlled people.. i mean yeah there might be some programming but there are times when people are vulnerable..
He could've really gotten down. All the mess in his head.
We should keep both ideas in front. It could be anything.
Also not in the least I'm believing him to be innocent. I'm just stating that there might've been a trigger that made him loose it
And how you guys mention the smirks..
I really am doubtful towards chim chim and junglebook..
 

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waiy lmao im sorry it was someone else's KABSISBDJSHS i dont remember names well, but yeah its someone with jin pfp and your name have jin in it so im like, 'oh, its her' OABSISB LMAOO SORRRYYY
It's ok! :):D
 
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Okay so
nice catch...and it's not just a super blood moon..it is a 'super blood wolf moon'
January’s full moon is commonly referred to as the “Wolf Moon” regardless of the year. In fact, it has been called this name for decades.
“In Native American and early Colonial times, the Full Moon for January was called the Full Wolf Moon. It appeared when wolves howled in hunger outside the villages,” explains The Old Farmer’s Almanac.
The Babylonian holy book Enuma Anu Enlil (The Gods Anua and Enlil) declared that the lunar eclipse — such as we’re experiencing this weekend — portended the death of a king.
Each eclipse was judged according to the position of other stars and planets (particularly Jupiter), and how much of the Moon was darkened.
If the expected omens were bad, the Babylonian king would ritually step down from office — and anoint a substitute king and queen.
In other words, a temporary royal family was appointed to take the fall for the real king. They were killed.
“His royal throne, his royal table, his royal weapon, and his royal sceptre” were burned for “the purification of the land”.
Fortunately, the original royals were waiting in the wings to take back their old jobs.
To the Egyptians, the life-giving Sun was the god Amun-Ra. To the Greeks, it was Helios. To the Japanese, Amaterasu. Its warm presence meant fertile crops and health. Its absence meant famine and cold.
That such an entity of supreme power over life or death could be seen to ‘struggle’ with the Moon was terrifying.
the powerful Moon appeared to be suffering a blood-smeared fate as the Earth’s shadow — turned red by the refracted glow of sunset — passed across its face.
For the Chinese, this demonic entity was a dragon. For the Vikings, it was sky wolves.(source:https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/blood-moons-have-a-dark-and-ominous-history-heres-why/news-story/a5e05b8c0abb30d6cac0c67c91937138)

from what I understand,there could be some sacrifices....found this.....may or may not be related
http://apokoronasnews.gr/couple-found-dead-on-greek-island-sacrificed-themselves-in-satanic-ritual-24-hours-before-wolf-moon/

also,I already mentioned about dec 22 which is a cold full moon in addition to being a winter solistice...:eek:
Sorry for mentioning EXO here. But now i really can't hold back.
EXO'S love shot comeback is filled with full moons. And also their diamond cover art is in the face of a wolf. May make connections..
Also in 2016 i mentioned in kpop illuminati influence thread how EXO were involved on the Orlando mass shooting at a gay club.
The shootings in France, someone mentioned on this thread may link to EXO'S new comeback.
I just am vaguely joining the dots..
If you guys want. I can try to decipher it..
I'm sure now. All of this has something to do with EXO once again..
As i mentioned earlier how mostly kpop groups come wih dark concepts in even years..
There might just be something..
 
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I definitely think there is a lot of sexual abuse that goes on in the Kpop/ entertainment industry and several victims have already spoken out about this. I must say that the first time i watched Shinee’s Ring Ding Dong when I was still in high school I was creeped out by the objectification and blatant sexual imagery used on boys that looked like 15. When Jonghyun took his own life I wasnt surpised who knows what he’s been through. Just google some of Shinee’s earlier photoshoots and you will barf at the pedophilic imagery. It is too obvious to be missed! Same can be said about some of BTS photoshoots that definitely raised my eyebrows.

Nevertheless I am 99% sure Tae and JK a couple, not just sexually but emotionally, sorry but overwhelming evidence which I don’t plan to post. On the other hand I don’ t believe Tae and jin or Jikook are a thing even though they ahve a lot of fanservice moments.
I also believe the whole maknae line is gay and the rest are well not straight either. Non of them are hetero, except maybe Jin, but I have my doubts even there. Their CEO Bang PD is 100% gay and perhaps into very young boys, he seems like a creep. I say this as someone who happens to have encountered many LGBT people.

Note: Tae wore that shirt in a photoshoot and it says Escort Boys on it, wth. Look at these disturbing photos.
Jay Key showed that he is attracted to women in some interviews and he was staring pretty hard at Ciara's butt at Billboard Awards. Maybe they have become gay, who knows, but I don't want to believe that ALL the maknae line was gay since the beggining of their career, especially because they were very manly before. And once when they were asked what do they believe about bikinis, R-m said that fans don't really see them as men, maybe because they are pretty careful with the way they behave.
But something is really fishy with this industry.
Who knows. Maybe they are. I just hope that they are OK.
 
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I honestly laughed through the while thing and at my friends who really thought it was sincere j-hope's was really funny idek why
just look at them smirking while he was giving his best shot at crying(he is an actor on tv,i think?)..all that training should not go to waste now,can it?...it seems like they were all trying to make him break out of his character as well...like in those bloopers you see for movies or tv series where actors break into laughter watching the other ones' acting and finally everyone will be in giggles......tea,if you can see him before crying,it was clear that he was making up his mind(preparing himself) to cry....he managed to get tears but couldn't actually cry...jk reached out to him trying hard not to smirk and tea quickly hid his face trying not to laugh...he composed himself(got back into character=cry) when jk patted him and the boys' smirked from behind...he looked up and continued his character(gotta show'em who is the real actor here now,you know?)....playing with people's emotions:mad:...and they got their spotlight with the worldwide twitter trend:rolleyes:
 

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someone said that she looks high(on drugs)...don't know if clones are already a reality?Her attire looks like that of a witch as someone already mentioned...she is considered a highpriestess in illuminati like madona..maybe she's there for a ritual?
you might find these links useful
https://mindcontrolblackassassins.c...personality-disorder-deception-a-new-babylon/

https://dirtygurl.wordpress.com/tag/janet-jackson/
I don't know what to believe anymore in this world its really evil and capable of doing unimaginable things so I don't underestimate most conspiracies etc ooh and also lol I'm that kind of person who don't like limiting themselves to little information so I usually check out a lot of sources relates to the illuminati plans etc and most things I've read or watched do probe their existence of clones like for example kanye west and some other celebrities
 

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someone opined somewhere that the dog itself might be a conduit or something?though I don't believe it....but,yes,that part about the dog is interesting...however,I found this

When your dog picks up on the negative energy of a demon, common reactions would include tucking their tail, snarling, and whining. You may also notice the hair on your doggo’s neck or back raised. You will also see the dog as being reluctant to enter a space where they are possibly sensing a demon. Overall, you will be able to see your dog is clearly reacting to something - something that you can’t see. The reaction may also vary a bit by the type of dog you have. For instance, smaller pups might run away. An older and/or larger dog may behave more aggressively. You may see them showing their teeth and getting into an attack mode. If a demon is particularly evil, has hostile intentions, and/or is powerful, your dog may end up cowering no matter how big they are. The strong force of the negative energy and its evil nature often prevails over your canine friend’s courage. In that case, you will notice signs such as trembling, tucking their tail between the legs or just simply running away.
Body Language: Here are a few signs that your dog can sense a demon: Growling Whining Cowering Tail tucking Exposed teeth
Other Signs: Here are some additional signs that your dog is sensing demons: Barking at nothing Hiding Not entering a certain room

Read more at: https://wagwalking.com/sense/can-dogs-sense-demons

Haven't watched any of their videos,however,if you find any of these reactions,however minute,you'll know what it is.

also,a black dog is associated with devil and is regarded as portent of death.hope this helps.it would be great if anyone can share more information about that dog part.:)
http://instagr.am/p/BrAxuL8AXj0/ I tried to observe too see any of those signs but his dog seems to really like him though
 

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i honestly hope nothing bad happens that involves losing of someone's life, just speaking as a fellow human, i'm sure none of us, at least for me and even God does not want to see people perish and suffer (2 Peter 3:9). but it's hard to say especially if and how deep they gotten themselves into and if they willingly chosen the dark side and rejected God. I hope that the worst that can happen is just let the disbanding happen all together rather than risking one's life. it's not worth it...
Yeah right .. I just wish they retire from this all and move on.. Loosing a life is never worth anything ..
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His expression creeped me out! I would run away if I was in his place.
The way b4ng pd is holding the wrist of the member.. It doesn't look like a handshake to me.. And then the way he's looking at v.. Even the person beside him is judging him...
 
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Guys about the whole VKook thing
I think they were a couple or had some sort of relationship but it wasn’t entirely because of them
Like a user said both V and Jkay have been seen to be attracted to girls Ik their earlier years of BTS and these were really common like on AHL for example
However because they were probably made to have some sort of contact with eachother maybe it increased their emotional bonding
Ik some of you believe that your sexuality cannot be altered but if you’re groomed constantly by men and made to sleep with them including heavy mk ultra at such a young age you might think or get confused about your sexual identity probably making them bisexual
Sorry idk much about this
for example when I was going throughout a very dark state of my life I really thought I was bi and that I was also attracted to women but I realised that’s not the case at all and I seem to have these thoughts when I’m away from God
Ik this is a sensitive topic and I don’t want to cause any arguments this isn’t just my thought
 

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They are overworked and work like slaves for the company. but they are not mind controlled. Might have suicidal thought and depression from burnout, abuse, dealing with the shady business industry, but not because of supposed MK Ultra. Sorry MK ultra imagery just symbolizes how celebs are puppets for the people in. power, it is not actual mind control. And how on earth do you know they do rituals? There is a lot of illuminati imagery in their concepts, but the real person in power here is their CEO, who decides on the concepts. BTs are just his puppets. They might be aware of it and just accept it because of fame and money or be unaware of the deeper meaning. The CEO is definitely associated with the illuminati does their bidding BTS is also signed with Sony which needless to say is controlled by the illuminati. So yeah I just see them as puppets.
Yes puppets.. There is no doubt left in that.. Since all fake love performances include them being puppets .. So it's more like a fact now..
And yes everybody can't perform rituals.. Especially boys like them.. Who get scared of lizards and fireworks..
The b4ng pd person is the culprit who might be doing the blood works...
Jamal's one is also a perfect fit for a wizard .. Purple and black
 

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Just how time flies..
Just months back feels like few backs.. We had the longest blood moon lunar eclipse and i witnessed it.. And the posts here were full of blood moon stuff

And the January one seemed sooo far away to me.. But look.. It's here.. Time is running out.. Real fast...

I have 4 pages of the thread to catch on and it keeps on increasing :D..

Guys the tae crying issue.. I think it was legit crying .. That boy couldn't stop till the end and he does start shaking after performances.. It's like before performances they're injected with some drug which hypes them. Up but ends in shaky hands. Which we often don't catch after the performances... Just a thought ...
Honestly, I think his crying looked real too. It was the JK hug that seemed a bit false, and that's maybe the saddest part. I think Tae wanted out, I honestly do. But it's just my feeling and speculation, i can't know for sure.
 

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Okay so


Sorry for mentioning EXO here. But now i really can't hold back.
EXO'S love shot comeback is filled with full moons. And also their diamond cover art is in the face of a wolf. May make connections..
Also in 2016 i mentioned in kpop illuminati influence thread how EXO were involved on the Orlando mass shooting at a gay club.
The shootings in France, someone mentioned on this thread may link to EXO'S new comeback.
I just am vaguely joining the dots..
If you guys want. I can try to decipher it..
I'm sure now. All of this has something to do with EXO once again..
As i mentioned earlier how mostly kpop groups come wih dark concepts in even years..
There might just be something..
Please do
Honestly, I think his crying looked real too. It was the JK hug that seemed a bit false, and that's maybe the saddest part. I think Tae wanted out, I honestly do. But it's just my feeling and speculation, i can't know for sure.
Yeah.. The jk hug... Same. At first view i didn't feel the truth in it either.

And this is an old tweet i saw some time back.. So now found it again.. His shaky hands..

 

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BTS reading continued.

Again, electional astrology is a chart that shows the “birth” of an event (i.e. marriage, starting a business, surgery, moving to a new home). For centuries many countries like India will consult Vedic astrologers to know when is the best time to get married so they won’t encounter affliction later down the road. The reality is though that no chart is perfect so in regards to a Korean Pop debut, all it takes is one major harsh aspect (i.e. Saturn, Pluto, Uranus, Jupiter) to cause issues to a business. I’ll explain later using Oh My Girl and EastLight’s chart. My theory is that most of these K-pop groups that have debuted were pre-determined energetically. Like in an astral/soul level. They come here to understand each other and themselves; to project a message to the world whatever that may be…good or bad. From a practical level, it’s all just a business. Regardless, as individuals, we have to understand that the Game of the industry is playing with our psyches. We have to be aware. They don’t care about us.

So yesterday I stated that BTS has Sun (ego, self, persona) conjunct Jupiter (blessings, expansion, luck) in Gemini in the 10th house (career, public status); Mid-heaven in Gemini. So from an astral/material level, they are meant to connect to the public using social media.
The loudest Geminis right now on social media are Trump, Azalea Banks and Kanye West. Is that ironic?

Bighit needs to STIMULATE the crowd with games to keep the fans busy and mentally agitated. It’s their business to do so. This is why they have done the Bon Voyage series, that Hustle in America show, tons of random V-live activity, lots of YouTube videos, LOTS of Twitter posts, random posts showing how they will “sue” for defamation (it reminds me of Trump making threats when people don’t agree with him and say harsh things), random article showing their achievements, LOTS of media play from Billboard and other websites/magazines/Naver/etc., for God-sakes they literally won a SOCIAL MEDIA award. Very Gemini mid-heaven.

“…When your Mid-heaven is in Gemini, you often intentionally behave in different ways in public so people can think you’re 10 different people. But, you’re actually very comfortable acting out all your contradictions in front of the world. In your mind, this is the time to do it….”

So this group publically are two-faced. They are not what they appear. They are moody, talkative, and leave people heads spinning. People who don’t like them should stay away from Twitter. It gives them depression, jealousy and anger. It’s not healthy. They know it’s all an illusion but they (ARMY and antis) are addicted to the STIMULUS of BTS. Gemini rules the NERVOUS SYSTEM. Take care of your head. Mental energy radiates from this group. They really invoke a lot of people.

“….And a lot of Gemini Mid-heaven people just need an outlet for the devil on their shoulder, which is satisfied through a career where they can freely express themselves. And as Madonna [who has Gemini mid-heaven] has taught the music industry, if it causes some controversy, so what? At least they’re talking about you, baby…”

So Big Hit loves that BTS is getting good AND bad attention. It’s better than no attention. GOSSIP paved the way for their career.

Now, the Moon is the most important planet in electional astrology.

The Moon in Cancer in their 11th house (hopes, community, wishes, organizations, service) SQUARES Saturn in their 2nd house (ideas, concepts, self-worth/esteem, values, money, possession, etc.)

A square is stressful. The group as a whole are very critical towards one another, stoic, harsh, depression surrounds them, older women may have been non-supportive, lack of emotional stability (Saturn=grounding/stability); emotional tension and frustration. There is also a lack of allies in their business. Lack of self-esteem.

Mars in the 9th house shows the group working with foreign consumers. They travel to foreign lands for business (i.e. touring), to learn and grow, to gain insights but Mars is an active planet that can turn aggressive, they have trouble with travelling because whatever insights they gain, it will agitate their mental nervous system. Mentally, travelling is not good for them. They may experience too much energy. There's a lot of videos of them being attacked by foreigners.

The 9th house is also the house of beliefs/traditions/religion. From a business standpoint, Big Hit needs to get foreign consumer’s attention by spreading a philosophy (i.e. Love Yourself). They need to create a cult following for BTS.

“….In cases that Mars is negatively aspected, [they] will be a religious fanatic or a zealot, trying to push his beliefs on other people. Of course, in such occasions, he will meet resistance and his aggressive perceptions will have an adverse effect on himself. People who have their natal Mars in the 9th house are so sure about the correctness of their opinion, that they become narrow-minded and offensive towards alternative views…”

This pretty much describes ARMY (foreign consumers) to a tee AND Big Hit's business. They are the reflection of BTS’s philosophy (whatever that may be). Because Mars is in the sign of Gemini, most of this aggressive activity happens in social media or even on a astral level.

Mars square Neptune (6th house of work/health/routine/co-workers)—from a business point, the company has an obsession to do well abroad but they still lack the confidence to accept their achievements. It’s never enough; there is homosexual activity. Mars rules sex and if it squares Neptune there is a lack of sexual identity. So they all may be bi-sexual.
 

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Also, there is a connection:
T.O.P (BigBang) Aries Moon (Scorpio Sun)
T.O.P Birth Chart.png
Taehyung (BTS) Aries Moon (Capricorn Sun)
V Birth Chart.png
Jonghyun (Shinee) Aries Sun (Virgo Moon)
Jonghyun Birth Chart.png

What do at least two of those members have in common?

Aries is ruled by Mars: impulsive, aggressive, childish, has a need to show others who they are, arrogant, hotheaded, starts but never finishes, fast, quick, alert, have a INNATE FEAR OF REJECTION, needs to develop self-awareness as Aries is the first sign of the zodiac, the Self..acts before they think. Risk-taker.

So my theory is that one of the members lacked a strong sense of self (The SUN rules the self, the EGO, the PERSONALITY) hence why he ended his life. He never felt like he was successful as a solo artist and other factors of course came into play. Interesting, because one of them was a psychiatrist saying it's is PERSONALITY that was the issue that drove him deeper to depression. Another was very rash with his choice to end is life (thankfully it wasn't successful) because of REJECTION from the general public from being caught smoking weed and other factors.

And Taehyung is literally on the edge right now. I hope he doesn't do anything he regrets. But people are worried for him a lot. His Moon is really stressed out right now, always was since his childhood. He cried because he wanted out. This reminds me of that Burn the Stage scene where V had to apologize to Jin for expressing his views on (I don't remember) but the point is that he expressed his SELF but was rejected because of hierarchy (Jin being the oldest, etc.) so he feels trapped.
 
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BTS reading continued.

Again, electional astrology is a chart that shows the “birth” of an event (i.e. marriage, starting a business, surgery, moving to a new home). For centuries many countries like India will consult Vedic astrologers to know when is the best time to get married so they won’t encounter affliction later down the road. The reality is though that no chart is perfect so in regards to a Korean Pop debut, all it takes is one major harsh aspect (i.e. Saturn, Pluto, Uranus, Jupiter) to cause issues to a business. I’ll explain later using Oh My Girl and EastLight’s chart. My theory is that most of these K-pop groups that have debuted were pre-determined energetically. Like in an astral/soul level. They come here to understand each other and themselves; to project a message to the world whatever that may be…good or bad. From a practical level, it’s all just a business. Regardless, as individuals, we have to understand that the Game of the industry is playing with our psyches. We have to be aware. They don’t care about us.

So yesterday I stated that BTS has Sun (ego, self, persona) conjunct Jupiter (blessings, expansion, luck) in Gemini in the 10th house (career, public status); Mid-heaven in Gemini. So from an astral/material level, they are meant to connect to the public using social media.
The loudest Geminis right now on social media are Trump, Azalea Banks and Kanye West. Is that ironic?

Bighit needs to STIMULATE the crowd with games to keep the fans busy and mentally agitated. It’s their business to do so. This is why they have done the Bon Voyage series, that Hustle in America show, tons of random V-live activity, lots of YouTube videos, LOTS of Twitter posts, random posts showing how they will “sue” for defamation (it reminds me of Trump making threats when people don’t agree with him and say harsh things), random article showing their achievements, LOTS of media play from Billboard and other websites/magazines/Naver/etc., for God-sakes they literally won a SOCIAL MEDIA award. Very Gemini mid-heaven.

“…When your Mid-heaven is in Gemini, you often intentionally behave in different ways in public so people can think you’re 10 different people. But, you’re actually very comfortable acting out all your contradictions in front of the world. In your mind, this is the time to do it….”

So this group publically are two-faced. They are not what they appear. They are moody, talkative, and leave people heads spinning. People who don’t like them should stay away from Twitter. It gives them depression, jealousy and anger. It’s not healthy. They know it’s all an illusion but they (ARMY and antis) are addicted to the STIMULUS of BTS. Gemini rules the NERVOUS SYSTEM. Take care of your head. Mental energy radiates from this group. They really invoke a lot of people.

“….And a lot of Gemini Mid-heaven people just need an outlet for the devil on their shoulder, which is satisfied through a career where they can freely express themselves. And as Madonna [who has Gemini mid-heaven] has taught the music industry, if it causes some controversy, so what? At least they’re talking about you, baby…”

So Big Hit loves that BTS is getting good AND bad attention. It’s better than no attention. GOSSIP paved the way for their career.

Now, the Moon is the most important planet in electional astrology.

The Moon in Cancer in their 11th house (hopes, community, wishes, organizations, service) SQUARES Saturn in their 2nd house (ideas, concepts, self-worth/esteem, values, money, possession, etc.)

A square is stressful. The group as a whole are very critical towards one another, stoic, harsh, depression surrounds them, older women may have been non-supportive, lack of emotional stability (Saturn=grounding/stability); emotional tension and frustration. There is also a lack of allies in their business. Lack of self-esteem.

Mars in the 9th house shows the group working with foreign consumers. They travel to foreign lands for business (i.e. touring), to learn and grow, to gain insights but Mars is an active planet that can turn aggressive, they have trouble with travelling because whatever insights they gain, it will agitate their mental nervous system. Mentally, travelling is not good for them. They may experience too much energy. There's a lot of videos of them being attacked by foreigners.

The 9th house is also the house of beliefs/traditions/religion. From a business standpoint, Big Hit needs to get foreign consumer’s attention by spreading a philosophy (i.e. Love Yourself). They need to create a cult following for BTS.

“….In cases that Mars is negatively aspected, [they] will be a religious fanatic or a zealot, trying to push his beliefs on other people. Of course, in such occasions, he will meet resistance and his aggressive perceptions will have an adverse effect on himself. People who have their natal Mars in the 9th house are so sure about the correctness of their opinion, that they become narrow-minded and offensive towards alternative views…”

This pretty much describes ARMY (foreign consumers) to a tee AND Big Hit's business. They are the reflection of BTS’s philosophy (whatever that may be). Because Mars is in the sign of Gemini, most of this aggressive activity happens in social media or even on a astral level.

Mars square Neptune (6th house of work/health/routine/co-workers)—from a business point, the company has an obsession to do well abroad but they still lack the confidence to accept their achievements. It’s never enough; there is homosexual activity. Mars rules sex and if it squares Neptune there is a lack of sexual identity. So they all may be bi-sexual.
so interesting I studied my solar return chart and it indicated a time when I had a very important surgery, so I believe in what you are saying

About BTS you said something might happen 3 months before their annyversary, the BTS "insider" is predicting one of them will leave the group in february or march...Do you see a problem with a member leaving or is something different?
 
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