BTS discussion thread

[Cocomj]

Lol that's what happens when ppl give the link out all over social media instead of letting those who are truly curious find it for themselves.

smh :/

 

[lilahhope]

They say that people who are programmed normally snap out between the age of 27-30. Their core personality will take dominance and they’d wake up from the programming that’s why you see some western artists act REALLY weird in public and so their handlers need to re-program them. It’s really sad.

So that's why we've seen Britney do the whole "crazy" thing. Lindsay Lohan fits too. Man, when I was a kid, I wanted to be a famous writer. I'm actually glad that I'm just small time.

 

[nad]

Sad thing is they'll take that as a compliment like it's a badge of honour when in reality, it's so embarrassing and degrading they should be ashamed. They're the first to stampede and riot against someone who says anything remotely unfavourable about their oppas and will literally bully and harass people yet when they're called out on their stalker behaviour, they whine and cry and play the victim. Toxic fandom.

I use my freedom of voice, that's all. Nothing too personal. Adding little bit criticism/different review to this thread for it to be more lively (not like a middle age Inquisition) and not too much a reach.

 

[shilamoure]

So that's why we've seen Britney do the whole "crazy" thing. Lindsay Lohan fits too. Man, when I was a kid, I wanted to be a famous writer. I'm actually glad that I'm just small time.

Exactly! Yeah i think things get really sinister the bigger you get when it comes to career.

 

[lilahhope]

Exactly! Yeah i think things get really sinister the bigger you get when it comes to career.

This hurts my heart when I stop and think about all those who I've loved as celebrities over the years. What they may have endured to keep even a shred of dignity. Makes me hurt even more to know that some may have actually gone into the industries KNOWING what would happen and probably participated with glee. smh

 

[nad]

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People who have a strong state of mind don't get easily influenced by that book
So i'm guessing the father you met had a strong state of mind
Harry Potter never had an influence on anyone and it has been proved
Catcher in the rye on the other hand is another story
Also nope it's even worse when you rephrase it like that it's still defamation
in case you missed something i've only been here for a month or so
so no i haven't read the whole thread
About Van is it still defamation of character when it's a fictional character ?ask yourself this question when you ignored half of my previous post)

""Also nope it's even worse when you rephrase it like that it's still defamation"" then - I'm sorry
Van is the creation of BTS. You know - these users analyse BTS painting etc. to make psychoanalysis of members. I just wanted to show you exemplary case. But in the future if you see some hardcore/crossing the line post according to your mindset - I hope you can freely express your opinion about it.
Yes, some theories look fine but many of them just act like an Inquisitor that caught in the forest a witch, which was just minding their own business.
About book - I dont trust the word of one maniac, maybe even few maniacs. From this point popular sociopolitical books/magazines are way more influental in changing a mindset.

 

[lilahhope]

The thought that worries me most at the moment is when these guys enlist in their country's armed forces in a few years. Don't all men in Korea have to serve something like a year or so when they're in late 20s? Such insane fans can jeopardize safety of a whole other bunch of people. I think they need some reality, honestly. By they, I mean the rabid fans.

 

[1shae123]

The simple fact that they can't even go to the airport without getting almost crushed to death is unbelievable to me. For the love of God, people need to use common sense and courtesy. Nothing really puts these guys above anyone else except they can sing/dance/do comedy. There's everyday, ordinary people who do the same. I can't really believe that they had to have a newscast about being safe at the airport. Maybe I'm old school, but that's insane to me.

Right? This amount of idolizing is disgusting..

 

[nad]

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The simple fact that they can't even go to the airport without getting almost crushed to death is unbelievable to me. For the love of God, people need to use common sense and courtesy. Nothing really puts these guys above anyone else except they can sing/dance/do comedy. There's everyday, ordinary people who do the same. I can't really believe that they had to have a newscast about being safe at the airport. Maybe I'm old school, but that's insane to me.

Absolutely disgusting behavior from sasaengs. I myself promised to never like, retweet etc.airport content of any fansites even if they come to my country.

 

[Cocomj]

Dang i often ask myself what did i get myself into X)
I knew the existence of those guys 2 years ago but never took an interest until 2 months ago
I thought their songs could maybe help my current depression,grief,anxiety and many other things but i often wondered how it was for them too
I knew there was something wierd when you see all of their songs talking about spreading wings,self love but all is reflected is self doubt,self esteem problems,anxiety and depression over and over and over
Idk who they are and their fans think they do but i don't think it's true...
Eveything is probably hidden (normal or not satanic or not whatever )
I'm always like what am i even doing here but half of the people here have helped me mentally than any other person could
I feel bad for them bc their fans get all crazy and i'm not even sure they are aware of half of the things going on (the boys)
I see the connection i made between them and Michael
it's history repeating itself
I'm thinking of leaving the website but if you want to talk with me you can dm me on here or on Amino (same username and pic )
You pretend to be fans yet you harass fragile people until they want to leave you should be ashamed of your actions (you know who you are )
To the normal lurkers who aren't against normal theories (like the movies one and such ) you can also dm me if you wish
(Not sure it's a good thing to be an infp-t when you are on such a website )

 

[nad]

The thought that worries me most at the moment is when these guys enlist in their country's armed forces in a few years. Don't all men in Korea have to serve something like a year or so when they're in late 20s? Such insane fans can jeopardize safety of a whole other bunch of people. I think they need some reality, honestly. By they, I mean the rabid fans.

When they enlist the most addictive fans will jump to new group, maybe from Big Hit.

 

[shilamoure]

This hurts my heart when I stop and think about all those who I've loved as celebrities over the years. What they may have endured to keep even a shred of dignity. Makes me hurt even more to know that some may have actually gone into the industries KNOWING what would happen and probably participated with glee. smh

It’s safe to say that the whole entertainment industry is messed up. People use each other for money and fame. The whole thing was created to distract people and be led into the darkness.

 

[shilamoure]

What gets me the most are the child stars, the ones who grew up in the industry. I shudder at the thought.

I think the ones who have maintained their relevancy have constantly submitted themselves to the preys —- im cringing

 

[lilahhope]

It's already being talked about - the fact BigHit has another group called 6aces, I believe. From what I've seen on the net, these kids are mostly under the age of 15. I'd feel really weird stanning children like that. I mean, it was odd to know that Jk was being sexualized in their debut at 15. I can't imagine being younger than that.

 

[shilamoure]

The thought that worries me most at the moment is when these guys enlist in their country's armed forces in a few years. Don't all men in Korea have to serve something like a year or so when they're in late 20s? Such insane fans can jeopardize safety of a whole other bunch of people. I think they need some reality, honestly. By they, I mean the rabid fans.

They gotta enlist before they turn 30 i think.
Oh the fans will surely exhibit a whole nother level of sasaeng behaviour during the whole two years of their oppas enlistment.

 

[shilamoure]

Explains why so many huge child-stars have ended up having some kind of mental breakdown. Look at Britney Spears, Amanda Bynes, a plethora of Disney stars. Even if people don't believe in the occultic side of the entertainment industry -the pressure, fake lifestyles, excess and lack of control over one's own life has to be enough to make a normal person feel like something is wrong.

Then they get pulled back into the matrix because a huge deal was already made. They’re forever in a bondage that the only escape is death.

 

[ShiningCarat14]

I've been a lurker of this for a while, but was afraid to comment until I did some research on my own. Looking at both sides of the coin, I can't say for sure who's in deep now, but I don't know that all of the guys were part of it in the beginning. I've went back and watched a lot of the behind the scenes videos that were put up. Many times the guys have said things like "I've become J-Hope in my real life. I'm too loud now. I'm more like J-Hope." or "Sometimes I have to hide how I really am to keep ARMY happy." You can tell that the persona they debuted with isn't really who they are now. Drastic changes can be seen in RM, Suga and Jimin if you look at their first few vlives and videos and compare them to now. These make me incredibly sad, because we only have one life to live. Whether they thought they'd be international superstars or not, they are human too. I wonder how many are regretting their choice now.

Welcome!!
Yh the change is clear and very sad I miss the days when they looked like boys not females there is an element of regret there the way some of them look at their fans on stage and cry I’ve watched a lot of celebrity stages but not many do that I watched one of T@3 looking at fans and crying he looked so sad
But they’ve got themselves into deep water very deep

Haha..
I deleted my 2 posts .. I'm gona post them again later when it will be peaceful around here

Aww lol, I will post my first (not very good) W!NG$ analysis (Maknae Jk@y version) to keep the mood from falling hopefully that will help!!!!

 

[1shae123]

I dont like loud places with lots of people so going to the airport is something I'd never do just to see some celebrity. And from what I've seen they will just ignore you, and their security will push you around... why would you put yourself through that? i dont get it. i guess they're just immature?

ps. theres stans on twitter passing around the video where their security pushed a lady to the ground and saying they should brign him back to deal with fans.
it irks me so much, cause she was just standing there, most likely not even a fan. just a regular person at the airport, and this asshole bodyguard shoved her, and form behind, she didn't even know wtf was happening. fuck the fans that think its funny and want him back.

I'm sure it's only getting worse too

 

[ariadial]

Well if there is a person doing that then it's the choice of those who click on the link whether or not they wish to view the thread at all. No one's forcing them or you. It's one user, btw. Not the entire collective of posters. I'm saying that in order to accuse us of defamation, we would have to actually claim our theories as truths and circulate them. We don't do that. You're not curious. You're bitter and close-minded. How are we painting any beliefs as evil other than branches of occultism that commit horrible rituals? There are Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists and maybe even other religions and yet up until this point it's been generally polite and respectful. We're not bashing anyone's religion. We're sharing information about symbols and the rituals and practices they signify and these are things people of MANY DIFFERENT RELIGIONS ARE NOTICING. We're analysing. Truth is none of us know BT$ so we can't say for sure what they do, it's all conjecture. But by the same token, neither do you. You don't know who these boys really are, and to pretend that you know for sure that they're angels is ridiculous. If you are so offended on their behalf because of things said here (which harm no one), then simply keep your head in the sand and don't follow this thread. But don't blame those of us who question and research while you try to deter other potentially curious people from doing the same.

Thanks to @KingOfTheRock for great explanatin of defamation:

""Defemation: the act of defaming; false or unjustified injury to the good reputation of another by way of slander or libel""

False/unjustified - right, since it's your subjective imagination based on non-proved assumption, your fears and own belief.

Injury to good reputation of another - right. Reputation of BTS is as good and hardworking people. But you "innocent theories" shade it, cross the line till the point of creating "theory" about them being occultist who are agree to be slave or puppet for handler/protector, agree to human sacrifice (grandmas), agree to work in Satanic company.
By way of slander or libel - it's pure slander because their "evil action" are not proved in court. Not fact. Just you drawing a line between religions and busy claiming foreing religion/belief is bad/evil/satanic.

Damn... are you really THAT jobless ? I mean you must really like us deep down to come everyday in this forum and entertain everybody here. Go stream and vote for an another "i don't know" award, your fandom have work to do (like always lmao). Staying jobless seems to give people time to waste smh

 

[Bae Yeon Hee]

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let me rephrase my words - they don't need concern from antis) Because they made choice and now apart of their company. If you are against actions of their company that creates their MV, clothing style, performance, somehow music, marketing strategy - you are against current BTS career. So you are antis of their action. Anti to them. You should undertand - they are core part/mast of this boat.
And ARMYs are encouraged to report pdf to Big Hit email so I guess they need supporters' concern and care.
""Negative comments, rumors and threat"" - you say like it's something really good and healthy. Them being possible sacrifice and their family members - occult sacrifice - well, how can you throw things like that to possibbly innocent people. Let me repeat again - witch hunt better stay in the Middle ages. Me as pagan person against you painting BTS as Satanists based on your own fears and culture.

I used to be luciferian and know your pagan beliefs. Of course you would not see anything wrong with what satanists do, you do the same thing. And I AM not an anti, just because I believe they are in the occult doesn't make me an anti. I still listen to their music, watch some of their stuff (not like I used to because I get annoyed with the all the symbolism). I will say that if there is a reason I become an anti it will not be because of them, it will be because of ARMY. If we don't worship the ground the boys walk on and love & agree with everything they do we are called anti. Our beliefs are different than yours and we are here discussing it, obviously when people come to this thread it is because they already suspect something and considering you have done nothing but comment on us being antis and defamation I doubt any newbies would see you as nothing but a BTS worshipping troll.