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A question has been arising in my mind. Pls clear me..
Bigb4ng got a lot of fame too... And their mvs are filled with symbolisms.. But I don't know if any bl00d sacrifices they had to make for the fame...?

Were there any deaths around them that were suspicious?
 

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Does anyone else just get shocked when their predictions come true or when things are finally making sense
Its more of a situation where I'm like: oh shit.. this is actually happening
This seems to be making more sense in terms of these things actually happening as compared to as a conspiracy theory.. especially since that vlive came out
I believe these sacrifices are for gaining something in particular like entering the Billboard chart(Agust D). I believe this new sacrifice is for the Grammy’s :(( bc Suga said recently in an interview that and everyone laughed to act humble and realist but IF THIS HAPPENS that s a strong clue that grannys are for Grammy’s (yeah, they sound similarly)
 

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They'll probably keep sacrificing so that their fame doesn't die down but in the order of them joining
so like tae-->jn-->rm-->yg-->jm and jh-->jk
(I'm not sure if jm and jh will both have a sacrifice at the same time but idk.. I'm going off of the timings that they put on the robes in their performance, as it seemed to be their loved ones order of deaths recently)
I don't know if all of them will make a sacrifice. A group with 7 members and all of them having a loved one dying? that would make the public believe they are cursed :oops:
If what happened to j1n's grandma was a sacrifice I think he was chosen for a reason (like Tae)
And this happening in their last day of promotion could be something like a "payment" for all the records they broke during this comeback (billboard)
 

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I don't know if all of them will make a sacrifice. A group with 7 members and all of them having a loved one dying? that would make the public believe they are cursed :oops:
If what happened to j1n's grandma was a sacrifice I think he was chosen for a reason (like Tae)
And this happening in their last day of promotion could be something like a "payment" for all the records they broke during this comeback (billboard)
They'll probably spread it out so its not suspicious from what im assuming
and it could be a payment then again but their fame did die down a bit around the time of jins grandmothers death so then again it could be so that their fame goes up
 

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A question has been arising in my mind. Pls clear me..
Bigb4ng got a lot of fame too... And their mvs are filled with symbolisms.. But I don't know if any bl00d sacrifices they had to make for the fame...?

Were there any deaths around them that were suspicious?

I don't know about deaths but they sure have had their fair share of public humiliation!
 

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I was expecting something from Suga's side because he was looking so sad and depressed I was sure there was a bigger reason behind that
I thought it would be from Suga too but he's been looking reasonably happier lately.

I still think we're going to get a heartfelt speech like V's at the Festa where the members will finally decide to share their condolences unlike their passive behaviour on vlive and social media since it will be broadcast worldwide. It'll be their way of bonding with ARMYs and making them feel closer like a family to be sharing his sorrow. I can already see how it will play out when it happens. I mean, they're brothers after all. :rolleyes:
 
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You guys might wanna watch this
Ik this has nothing to do with bts but it could explain why some people are so incredibly unsympathetic towards others
Sorry if its long but I believe its worth watching and some of the things mentioned in this video do make sense
Even though the thumbnail and title are obviously clickbait
please don't throw shade at me if this is incorrect but all in honesty religion does seem like a distraction to make us fearful.. I'm not saying EVERYONE has to agree with my opinion im just putting this out there regardless.. (It has also been specified many times that religion doesn't apply for people who are highly aware) I am not referencing that you shouldn't follow rules and do whatever you please, I'm just saying if anything is truly "evil" (which is literally just another label for things) that it will eventually have its consequences one way or another and will eventually come in the form of karma whether or not someone is aware of it or not..
I feel that some people would only truly understand where i'm coming from if they're on a higher frequency level, as normal people (sheeple) would probably assume i'm crazy.. although i feel that i'm not as ive experienced a few spirit awakenings and im currently in the middle of one
 
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I don't know if all of them will make a sacrifice. A group with 7 members and all of them having a loved one dying? that would make the public believe they are cursed :oops:
If what happened to j1n's grandma was a sacrifice I think he was chosen for a reason (like Tae)
And this happening in their last day of promotion could be something like a "payment" for all the records they broke during this comeback (billboard)
About June being the month of bl00d sacrifice....
and this happening to J1n's grandma.... would F3sta also have a sad song from j1n? About his grandma? (I think we'll have to wait and see) Also,

I decided to look back into V's past videos. And some numbers. This is an analysis:

It was reported that V's grandma died on September 3,

She died when he was in Philippines and her funeral was held on the day they won their first award for Blood Sweat and Tears
The date of death is Sept. 3rd 2016 which is 9/3, important numbers to the occult.
Then I looked at BTS 화양연화 on stage : prologue with lyrics video. At 1:45 you see him looking at a picture then at 1:49 he proceeds to crumple the picture then he is all alone for a while laying on a mattress and then other BT$ members come in and come to him. Screen Shot 2018-06-11 at 2.09.04 AM.jpg
The picture he is looking at in the video looks alike the picture he has with his grandma
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I think the part where he crumples the picture is symbolic to her being a sacrifice. Predictive programming. Like he is forgetting her.
Screen Shot 2018-06-11 at 2.09.13 AM.jpgThen BT$ come in . Notice R..M's shirt Nirvana. Screen Shot 2018-06-11 at 2.09.18 AM.jpg
R...M picks him up and he joins them.
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Then, for the music, I think St!gm@ is about his grandma's death and how he regrets it. An analysis of the lyrics:
Definition ST!gMA: If something has a stigma attached to it, people think it is something to be ashamed of.
It's hidden, I'll tell you something ---- This is him talking to the listener of the song. Implying that in his song he will tell a secret.

Only so you can keep it secret. What I can't withstand anymore. ---- It seems that this "secret" is eating him up inside and he can't endure anymore so he needs to tell someone about this 'secret'. He does it through this song.

Now cry, I'm just too sorry towards you. Cry again, that I couldn't protect you.----This one I think he is speaking to the victim. He is apologetic and cries for someone because he couldn't protect her (=you) (his grandma?) is this why the album is love yourself "HER"? (this might be a stretch)

Deeper, deeper, the wound just gets deeper---- It seems that his guilt(?) is not going away it eats him up. The wound just gets deeper- he cannot get over his sin.

The wound he speaks of could possibly be the guilt of being cowardly and letting someone else get punished in his place,
Like pieces of glass. That we can't turn back. ----When glass shatters or is broken, it is impossible to connect all the pieces together again. This implies that what he has done is absolute. There's no reversing it.

Deeper, my chest hurts.----he is really telling he is in pain

The feeble you who received punishment for my crime----The 'feeble' can mean fragile (his grandma?) and the crime is blo0d sacrifice. His 'sins' must be making a deal with the devil. (Note: In B$T V has the black devil's wings). And also note, him and J1n seem to be the main actors who interact different from the others in the MV. And now J1n has recently lost his grandma.
V also refers to the person who was punished as “fragile” and “delicate”, but in the past tense.
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Stop crying, tell me something. Try saying to me, who had no courage: "Why did you do that to me then?"----V here is talking to the person. Looks like the person sacrificed willingly gave up their life and does not blame him. And V is frustrated/guilty and wants them to question him: Why did you do that to me?"

V feels guilty to have let the person be punished for the crime that he had committed. He tells the person to ask him the question “Why did you do that to me then?” out of frustration and guilt when assumingely the person does not complain and does not blame him about the unfortunate circumstance the person is in because of him.
Deeper, deeper, the wound just gets deeper---- This line repeats again and a bunch of times to say that he really is in pain and shows some regret on what has happened.

I’m sorry I’m sorry, I’m sorry my brother, Even if I try to hide it. Even if I disappear, it can’t be erased----He's saying sorry to his family. Why? Is the sin connected to them? He is also saying that no matter how he hides it, or pretends, or even if he 'disappears' it can't be erased. What's done is done. (He also says this line to his sister)
Note:
Kim Taehyung or V was born on 30 December 1995 in Daegu, South Korea. He was raised there along with his two younger siblings, his sister Kim Eon Jin and his brother Kim Jeong Gyu
So cry, Please dry my eyes----He tells his siblings to cry and he also cries.

That light, that light please illuminate my crimes----Interesting choice of word "illuminate". Here he wants his sins/secret to be revealed.

I can't undo them. The red blood is flowing----The crime he speaks of seems to involve blood (murder?) and it can't be undone.

Deeper, deeper, everyday I think I'll die----*This one is concerning* He speaks of dying here...Is it because of the guilt? He can't take it anymore?

Please punish me. Please pardon my crime. Please.----He is asking for punishment from the victim and for forgiveness.

***Also it might be significant to look at the song 4' o clock by him and R ...M. :
In the song 4' o clock he goes out to talk to the moon and says: where are you? And he said :"I lit a small candle". I think he is talking to someone who passed away (grandma?). The song also talks about being a "moon child" and children of the moon"
The Moonchild rituals are the rituals to demonize a fetus. However, the demons that are invoked are not the small ones, but very powerful ones. In working with victims of this programming, it is clear that high level demons were placed within these people at very early ages. It is believed many of them were demonized before they were born by rituals like the Moonchild rituals. Blood sacrifices and human sacrifices are always required for this level of magic. Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) was a Satanist who was a 33rd degree Scottish Rite Freemason. He also was a leader in a number of other Masonic rites as well as an OTO leader, a chief in Stella Matutina, and a MI-6 (Br. overseas intelligence) agent. His writings have been important within 20th century Satanism and with black magicians. He wrote Moonchild, first published in 1917.
Since the rap was: "I call you moon child, we are children of the moon". Means that maybe V and R..M...are moonchildren.

https://ninaparadigma.wordpress.com/moon-children-what-are-they/

And when they performed in f3sta: V looked sad: Maybe the song is about his grandma too:


Note: This is just a theory. I don't want to seem insensitive to those who died and their family. I just made this analysis just to connect ideas and make sense of things. In case, some other things happen. This is not claiming to be any facts but just an analysis/conjecture if you may. Also, I hope deep down none of this is true. But, yeah, it must be said with everything being laid out. And V's song seem to be a call for help and deep sadness. I hope whoever reads this understands.


VIDEOS:



https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/taehyungs-grandmother-death-anniversary/KW8P_qWbcMuLKz1NYM5MnEplX4o5zZBjYDB
https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/kim-taehyung-32621.php
https://genius.com/V-bts-stigma-lyrics
 
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Sometimes it feels like.. Some members knew this coming .. Maybe y00ngs knew it from the day he was feeling down that there would be a sacrifice.. Maybe he thought it was his turn to lose a loved one and then later when he might have found out that it wasn't him.. It's going to be some other member.. Then he regained his energy and appeared a bit more smiley...
 

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About June being the month of bl00d sacrifice....
and this happening to J1n's grandma.... would F3sta also have a sad song from j1n? About his grandma? (I think we'll have to wait and see) Also,

I decided to look back into V's past videos. And some numbers. This is an analysis:

It was reported that V's grandma died on September 3,


The date of death is Sept. 3rd 2016 which is 9/3, important numbers to the occult.
Then I looked at BTS 화양연화 on stage : prologue with lyrics video. At 1:45 you see him looking at a picture then at 1:49 he proceeds to crumple the picture then he is all alone for a while laying on a mattress and then other BT$ members come in and come to him. View attachment 9092
The picture he is looking at in the video looks alike the picture he has with his grandma
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I think the part where he crumples the picture is symbolic to her being a sacrifice. Predictive programming. Like he is forgetting her.
View attachment 9090Then BT$ come in . Notice R..M's shirt Nirvana. View attachment 9089
R...M picks him up and he joins them.
View attachment 9093


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Then, for the music, I think St!gm@ is about his grandma's death and how he regrets it. An analysis of the lyrics:


It's hidden, I'll tell you something ---- This is him talking to the listener of the song. Implying that in his song he will tell a secret.

Only so you can keep it secret. What I can't withstand anymore. ---- It seems that this "secret" is eating him up inside and he can't endure anymore so he needs to tell someone about this 'secret'. He does it through this song.

Now cry, I'm just too sorry towards you. Cry again, that I couldn't protect you.----This one I think he is speaking to the victim. He is apologetic and cries for someone because he couldn't protect her (=you) (his grandma?) is this why the album is love yourself "HER"? (this might be a stretch)

Deeper, deeper, the wound just gets deeper---- It seems that his guilt(?) is not going away it eats him up. The wound just gets deeper- he cannot get over his sin.



Like pieces of glass. That we can't turn back. ----When glass shatters or is broken, it is impossible to connect all the pieces together again. This implies that what he has done is absolute. There's no reversing it.

Deeper, my chest hurts.----he is really telling he is in pain

The feeble you who received punishment for my crime----The 'feeble' can mean fragile (his grandma?) and the crime is blo0d sacrifice. His 'sins' must be making a deal with the devil. (Note: In B$T V has the black devil's wings). And also note, him and J1n seem to be the main actors who interact different from the others in the MV. And now J1n has recently lost his grandma.

View attachment 9095

Stop crying, tell me something. Try saying to me, who had no courage: "Why did you do that to me then?"----V here is talking to the person. Looks like the person sacrificed willingly gave up their life and does not blame him. And V is frustrated/guilty and wants them to question him: Why did you do that to me?"



Deeper, deeper, the wound just gets deeper---- This line repeats again and a bunch of times to say that he really is in pain and shows some regret on what has happened.

I’m sorry I’m sorry, I’m sorry my brother, Even if I try to hide it. Even if I disappear, it can’t be erased----He's saying sorry to his family. Why? Is the sin connected to them? He is also saying that no matter how he hides it, or pretends, or even if he 'disappears' it can't be erased. What's done is done. (He also says this line to his sister)
Note:


So cry, Please dry my eyes----He tells his siblings to cry and he also cries.

That light, that light please illuminate my crimes----Interesting choice of word "illuminate". Here he wants his sins/secret to be revealed.

I can't undo them. The red blood is flowing----The crime he speaks of seems to involve blood (murder?) and it can't be undone.

Deeper, deeper, everyday I think I'll die----*This one is concerning* He speaks of dying here...Is it because of the guilt? He can't take it anymore?

Please punish me. Please pardon my crime. Please.----He is asking for punishment from the victim and for forgiveness.

***Also it might be significant to look at the song 4' o clock by him and R ...M. :
In the song 4' o clock he goes out to talk to the moon and says: where are you? And he said :"I lit a small candle". I think he is talking to someone who passed away (grandma?). The song also talks about being a "moon child" and children of the moon"


Since the rap was: "I call you moon child, we are children of the moon". Means that maybe V and R..M...are moonchildren.

https://ninaparadigma.wordpress.com/moon-children-what-are-they/

And when they performed in f3sta: V looked sad: Maybe the song is about his grandma too:


Note: This is just a theory. I don't want to seem insensitive to those who died and their family. I just made this analysis just to connect ideas and make sense of things. In case, some other things happen. This is not claiming to be any facts but just an analysis/conjecture if you may. Also, I hope deep down none of this is true. But, yeah, it must be said with everything being laid out. And V's song seem to be a call for help and deep sadness. I hope whoever reads this understands.


VIDEOS:



https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/taehyungs-grandmother-death-anniversary/KW8P_qWbcMuLKz1NYM5MnEplX4o5zZBjYDB
https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/kim-taehyung-32621.php
https://genius.com/V-bts-stigma-lyrics
The lyrics of stigma are so painful... Surely speaks of a deceased one..
 

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Guys I have an Army who I speak to online. I gave her a link to this thread. She has no clue about Illuminati and God and elite etc etc . And she doesn't have any idea about mv theories. Is there any suggestions on how to tell her about the elite and the occult in mvs of bts?? Any videos to suggest? Any links or websites other than this thread?
Dont give her all the info at one time. It might overwhelm her. Also add in related scriptures as you go along so that she'll understand why this secret society occult is wrong. Just like teaching any topic /subject to a student, you have to take your time. It might be too much to handle. Heck, even know this much info for myself is already a burden
 

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A question has been arising in my mind. Pls clear me..
Bigb4ng got a lot of fame too... And their mvs are filled with symbolisms.. But I don't know if any bl00d sacrifices they had to make for the fame...?

Were there any deaths around them that were suspicious?
Daesung actually killed a person. The victim was riding a motorcycle and Daesung hit him.
 
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