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Maggieca said:
because a lot of the users here are still BTS fans and they have a hard time thinking the group is involved with the occult
When you invest a lot of time in a group and you like them as people it's hard to accept they might be involved in sinister activities

please consider that a lot of kpop fans are young too so it's harder for them to let go. We try to be respectful and tolerant with eachother here
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i still love 'em, that's why i care to know the truth. I love 'em but I don't want to be blind :) but I'm slowly trying to let go
 
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DarkAndWild said:
I read a theory on twitter suggesting that this concept refers to tae being a fallen angel who has recently gotten it’s wings clipped, basically he’s representing Lucifer. Also it’s pretty creepy how the video is 3: 33 long because it’s symbolic for the term “devil’s hour”

“Adversely, the term Devil's hour applies to the hour of 2:33 AM, 3 AM or 3:33 AM, the suggestion being that this is an inversion of the time at which Christ died at Calvary”

Devil’s Hour” or the “Witching hour” is believed that devils and all other paranormals prefer 3:00 am to 4:00 am as the preferred time period for all their activities. This is done as a mockery of Christ who had died at 3 pm in the afternoon. It is said that if you awake at that part of the night, it means that the ‘devil’ had paid you a visit. All witchcraft and paranormal activities are heightened from 3 to 4 in the morning. ‘Three’ also holds a significant position in the black magic world as an insult to Christ. Three successive knocks on the door, three times your name being called, three howls etc.

okay that is pretty creepy
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I was born on December at 3:36pm lol lowkey scared
 
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Openyoureyes said:
the 1st thing that caught my attention in the lyrics was him talking about frozen lake and how he got in the icy water for "you" and lost his voice for "you " the "you" I really don't think it refers to a former lover or whatever but something powerful , anyway going in a frozen lake or water is being baptised when he says that he went in the icy water for"you" I guess he means Satan not a girl ? and he lost his voice bcuz you can't say anything when you get in, you lose your freedom to say what you want , he also says "Have I lost myself or have I gained you " well this one's really painful .... that's what I got for now, tell me how do you see it guys ?
the song and the MV are full of hints
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I never feel that they ever refer to a 'girl' in their songs.
 
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suiyuo said:
theory 3.

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  • he's dancing alone with a coat rack = solitude, lonely, alone, isolation
it reminds of the teaser of kai:


  • I don’t have a voice= screaming ( from pain maybe )
  • If I shouldn’t have thrown myself away= suicide (regret, pressure)
  • Tell me if even this pain isn’t real= depression
  • Reach my hand out to cover the mouth= secret, hidden, personal, private..
  • Try to cover it = try to cover the pain, the sadness..
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theory 4.

  • Have I lost myself= several personalities are created in a slave's mind. From severe (intentional) trauma, the main personality splits off into several parts, creating multiple personalities and a fractured mind. This explains why we hear so many celebrities claiming they have alter egos and split personalities (mk ultra maybe).
like the ariana grande's music video:
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or like the movie "The Wizard of Oz":


theory 5.
Today I hear that sound again
It’s ringing again, that sound
Have I lost myself
Or have I gained you
I suddenly run to the lake
There’s my face in it
Please don’t say anything

Schizophrenia:
Hearing voices are still considered by psychiatry as an auditory hallucination and as a symptom of conditions such as schizophrenic disorders, manic depression and psychosis.
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sorry again for telling my personal story but I did hear a voice telling me that I should cut myself more and more and to kill myself (i'm still alive though don't worry). I just can relate too much with these things that I wonder how bad can people under MK ultra would be. and my experiences make me feel more convinced with split personalities etc
 
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Maggieca said:
yeah it could be but Taehyung eye was not like that when he debuted. Its started looking weird after "mic drop" for some reason. We noticed in several performances of this song one of his eyes start twitching and it's very strange
As far as I know he doesn't wear contact lenses right?

I noticed several celebrities have problems in one of their eyes (one eye looking smaller than the other) it could all be a coincidence but who knows?
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Hello new here. I do have a few doubts since Asian eyes can change into monolids and double lids depending on the day and what side you sleep on. I also have one eye bigger than the other resulting from sleeping on my side although this was over time and any drastic changes to eye sizes is questionable. Anyway eye twitching thing is kinda freaky but could be a medical reason, who knows.

Also couldn't help but google
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"porcelain face programming"
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and got an excerpt from first result but this was horrifying to read:
Fire/burning torture is used in the porcelain face programming. The charismatic branch of the satanic Network (such as the Assembly of God churches) uses porcelain face programming. This is done by using wax masks upon the victim, and giving them fire torture. The person actually thinks that their face has melted. At that point, the programmer pretends to be a god & a hero, and tells the person he will give them a new face, a porcelain mask. These new faces by the way, look like the ones sold in so many stores. The memories of abuse are then hypnotically hid behind the masks. To take off the masks is to abreact & burn again. If anyone touches the faces of alters with porcelain face programming, the alters will feel a burning sensation because their masks are not to be tampered with. This means that these alters have via torture & hypnosis lost their own faces!... Some alters are tortured in a fashion that the eye area is traumatized and they squint the left eye. They look like Baron Guy de Rothschild of France’s left eye looks.
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Again take everything with a grain of salt but the whole mask motif in Singularity kind of fits. I had the feeling the masks were 'alters' and him putting it on was less of a choice because the whole green tear thing. Sorry new here, I came across the original thread and freaked the f out and took a semi-break on bts and kpop. I also remember nope-ing out when I saw the Lie mv too.
 
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tyrab said:
Even this:
Also dont forget Jungkook got given a key and a key is used to unlock something that tends to hold secrets and remember that line at the end of his note 'Living is going to be more painful than death. But do you still want to live? that could link to the guy (demon, devil, death) who knows that he meets in the first teaser, but then I'm not sure.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996774565077385221
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996774958519865346
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guys I just realised that bts has a thing with curtains, like in euphoria jin opens the curtains and here jin closes the curtains on jk??do you think there is some connection. maybe they are trying to say that jk will remain in the dark or something.

at this point I'm just saying whats on my mind lol.

but tell me what you guys think??!!
 
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the world is a stage said:
Okay, important contribution. I went yesterday and today to a Juju priest. I do not know if you know the term Juju, but that's what we call "fortune tellers" in West Africa.

I went to him for two reasons: on the one hand for personal reasons and on the other hand because I wanted some answers to bts. Me and my family have known the Juju priest for years and many Africans go to him if they have questions, concerns or wishes. In my religion, it is forbidden to contact juju priests because they work with demons and practice voodoo, but I was just curious.

Yesterday I showed the Juju priest a picture of bts. I didn't tell him their Name or that they are a well-known Korean boy band.
So he started his "ritual" (I won't go into detail), but stopped after a few minutes. I will try to explain what he has told me. He said that he doesn't want to look into the boys' future because something big surrounds them. Powerful, dark forces that "disguise" or "daze" their future.
He is an old man and doesn't know bts. Therefore, his words surprised me a lot.

He broke off the ritual and wanted me to go, but I asked him to try again. He said No at first, but after I offered him more money, he told me to come back this afternoon.

I went back today with the picture and after a long "ritual" he said more interesting things. A lot of things some of you have mentioned before, if I'm not mistaken.

I will just mention the most important points the Juju Priest made:

- He said death would surround the seven boys

- he sees the number 6, which is celebrated by them (?)

- 3 members of the group are occultists or magicians

- 2 members were forced into it

- 2 members were born into it

- 1 was given to them as "debt settlement"

- 2 are to be sacrificed, in the end only 1 is sacrificed (?) Here he took a short break and then said that he sees a great sacrifice. One is the one who does it, the other is the one who gets it.

- He sees a lot of dark magic and blood surrounding them

- all will suffer

- He sees many high-ranking demons serving them

That's it. No idea if it's true what he said, but so far all his predictions and fortune-telling were right. Believe him or not, that's up to you.
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ok I'm going to predict that the 3 magicians are JHOPE, SUGA AND RM idk why but I get a vibe from them

I think the debt settlement was V because he was the hidden member

I think jin and jk were forced into it, bc I remember that jk was not going to even join bighit in the first place and was considering some other agencies, and he was 15yrs old then so he was likely forced into it. I think jin was also forced because he wasn't even considering to become an idol, heard from somewhere I don't remember from where but apparently some staff saw him at a station coming from school and they chased him asking him to join??!!!
 
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the world is a stage said:
Yes, he said they have been chosen! I forgot to mention that.
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This makes sense. I forgot where I saw this, but I've read somewhere that all these celebs go along with this to be "chosen" but if you're not chosen you pretty much just remain a slave to the industry till death but don't have access to these so called secrets and powers.
 
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Only Time Will Tell said:
They were at Radio Disney today and for some reason Yoongi looks really sad(?)
Here he has a sad half smile
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996912689371893761
Here he doesn’t start dancing until he sees the person recording and even then he barely does it
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996911471731789824
And in the interview he just seems unmotivated. He shows up @ 0:16
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996907931898556417
Maybe he’s just tired and being his usual Lazy!Yoongi but it stood out to me for some reason.
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I usually can tell whats going on internally with some one based on the eyes, (the whole window to the soul thing).

J-hope looks content, happier than how Ive seen him sometimes, and it doesn't look forced.
Jimin-- is screaming for attention, that may be his insecurities.
RM-- I know everyone keeps saying RM is evil, but to me he always seems like the odd man out meaning he would be the one not to thing a joke is funny or is not able to be as cool or have a swag like everyone else. At the same time I also feel like he has a secret or he knows more.
JK-- looks tired here, but I cant really read him, he's charming with his smile and winks, but maybe he's good natured, but his eyes doesn't give off any inner struggles.
Jin -- is very in your face, his personality matches his eyes. After seeing him on Hello Counselor, he's very funny and personable. He seems alright here.
Suga -- seems shy, yes he's creative, but also reserved. I feel like him and Jimin would mesh well but Suga seems to be more confident and doesn't struggle with insecurities as much as Jimin. Suga has more of a silent confidence about him. He knows he's great, but doesn't feel the need to be in your face about it.
V- seems like he carries burdens, but still keeps a smile, kind of like a mask. A lot of time he looks like he tries to be the bad boy or the "mysterious" one. I don't think that's who he is.
 
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I always wondered why in Not Today 6/7 members are shot while being chased by the hooded figures yet Jungkook was the only one standing. That part never made sense to me.
Looking at the teaser for Fake Love when he walks into the room with the 6 coat racks makes me think if there's some correlation.
 
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Only Time Will Tell said:
They were at Radio Disney today and for some reason Yoongi looks really sad(?)
Here he has a sad half smile
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996912689371893761
Here he doesn’t start dancing until he sees the person recording and even then he barely does it
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996911471731789824
And in the interview he just seems unmotivated. He shows up @ 0:16
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/996907931898556417
Maybe he’s just tired and being his usual Lazy!Yoongi but it stood out to me for some reason.
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I always see tae sad as well
 
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brunne said:
This reminds me of something that I think was already mentioned in this thread: Moonchildren (rituals performed on unborn babies, basically). I don't want to elaborate too much on this, since I don't know if it's relevant or not, but one of the episodes of their YT show was titled 'Moonchild', and I think it was heavily focused on V, or at least the very first minutes kind of were... Also, occultist Aleister Crowley wrote a book with the same title, and the colors used on the cover are very reminiscent of the Serendipity MV.
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This is what they do a lot in the Royal family. sad
 
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