Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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TVXQ "The Chance of Love" MV Analysis:
Obsessions with Freemasonry and the Sun God (Ra)

Part 2

Only Ch portrayed like this


Yh wearing Ch's top and Ch wearing Yh's bottom. Artistic reasons? Probably, or... not.


The stage even looks creepier from afar, you just can't stand how symmetrical it is lol


"It's alright, it's okay" —Yh's part
Well, I'm not convinced at all


He finally does it too


Symmetry everywhere



So, what am I trying to say? That Ch is being abused by Yh or something like that? Honestly, I don't know myself. However, I have suspicion that it could be about mind control and duality (hints: mirrors; while Ch is wearing white, Yh wears black; Yh's reflections on Ch; mirrored hands covered in gold sparkles). These guys aren't very different either in terms of physical appearance such as heights, so that makes it easier to create the duality symbolism here. As we can see, one of the guys here is more dominant than the other one. You can see it, you can feel it. On the mind control stuff though, I have something interesting to talk about in the next article.

I might as well explain the mirrors and duality symbolism

In Monarch Programming [an MK ULTRA offspring] the use of mirrors is a basic, important tool to make split multiple personalities. This may sound esoteric and unbelievable to those who are not at all familiar with the techniques, but after reading Springmeier's and Wheeler's book, the following becomes much clearer:​
The "mental mirrors", which are programmed into the victim, create thousands of alters (artificial personalities), which can then be programmed in whatever way the Illuminati programmer wants. It's very similar to partitioning a computer hard drive into hundreds, (sometimes even thousands) of partitions and fill each partition with whatever information you want. When opening one of the hard drive partitions, you can access what is in there, but the specific section of the hard drive "doesn't know" what the other sections contain. When the mind is split, the handler and/or the programmer can then make any partition in the brain the "active" one, which means the personality which is programmed into that partition will be the main personality. By using trigger words or codes embedded into the program, the programmer/handler can then switch between the pre-programmed personalities of the victim and bring forth a totally different character, setting that one as "active".
This is very useful if you for example want to create a public person who is an excellent entertainer with a gentle personality as a front, someone who appears to be a balanced family person, and then by using trigger words he/she can change into a cold-blooded killer, a drug dealer, a spy or whatever you want to use him for. No one would have suspected this person, because whatever criminal act he/she is programmed to do, it's literally "out of character". And just like the example with the hard drive, the victim himself is often not aware of his different personalities and often doesn't even remember the crime he committed.
Within the Monarch slave's mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors.

Duality patterns, such as checkerboards, stripes or zebras, are also commonly used as triggers for mind control slaves in order to reach specific alters. I didn't add too much stripes symbolism-wise in this post because I was overwhelmed with checkerboards alone.​
The colour white symbolizes light and the Divine, while the black symbolizes darkness and together, they symbolize the duality of man and the diversity of creation under the Great Architect, Lucifer.​
6. Live Performances

I really didn't want to watch those but I might find more clues there... and I did.

Comeback Stage | M COUNTDOWN 180329 EP.564
Hi symmetry... old friend


Inkigayo Ep 951
They really made sure that everything was done... symmetrically


M COUNTDOWN 180412 EP.566


Show Music Score 20180331


Music Bank 20180330


Music Bank 20180413


Show Music core 20180414
As always, I saved the best for the last. Who else finds the shape on the back familiar?


It's a Masonic square and compass, not a triangle.

Check it out by yourself

Knowing SM's history, it's not really surprising

References to my earlier posts:
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-91384
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-81581


It just surprised me a little to see it on stage lol, like they're not hiding it anymore, and people still think it's stage art and nothing more.

They released another MV titled "Love Line" which I don't think has any symbolism in it, or maybe there is but I can't see it at the moment. Nothing really bothered me except the concept of 1 girl for 2 guys which has no relation with occult symbolism whatsoever, just norms.

However, I looked into the stage performances and found Yh doing this sh*t, but uh... it's something we can really expect coming from him, right?



At first, I was unsure if Ch did the same gesture too because the camera was always directed at Yh, then I found out that it's really only Yh doing it.


Conclusion

Don't believe everything I say here, instead, do a research on your own to conclude whether an opinion might be correct or not. There are probably other alternatives into this analysis which I haven't known yet about. The sun temple could be something else and not a place to worship Ra, or maybe Ra doesn't exist at all (lol just kidding, and by Ra... I really mean the Devil). In the end, it's really your own choice whether to keep on supporting these artists or not. Stay awake and vigilant.
 
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TVXQ "The Chance of Love" MV Analysis:
Obsessions with Freemasonry and the Sun God (Ra)

Part 2

Only Ch portrayed like this


Yh wearing Ch's top and Ch wearing Yh's bottom. Artistic reasons? Probably, or... not.


The stage even looks creepier from afar, you just can't stand how symmetrical it is lol


"It's alright, it's okay" —Yh's part
Well, I'm not convinced at all


He finally does it too


Symmetry everywhere



So, what am I trying to say? That Ch is being abused by Yh or something like that? Honestly, I don't know myself. However, I have suspicion that it could be about mind control and duality (hints: mirrors; while Ch is wearing white, Yh wears black; Yh's reflections on Ch; mirrored hands covered in gold sparkles). These guys aren't very different either in terms of physical appearance such as heights, so that makes it easier to create the duality symbolism here. As we can see, one of the guys here is more dominant than the other one. You can see it, you can feel it. On the mind control stuff though, I have something interesting to talk about in the next article.

I might as well explain the mirrors and duality symbolism

In Monarch Programming [an MK ULTRA offspring] the use of mirrors is a basic, important tool to make split multiple personalities. This may sound esoteric and unbelievable to those who are not at all familiar with the techniques, but after reading Springmeier's and Wheeler's book, the following becomes much clearer:​
The "mental mirrors", which are programmed into the victim, create thousands of alters (artificial personalities), which can then be programmed in whatever way the Illuminati programmer wants. It's very similar to partitioning a computer hard drive into hundreds, (sometimes even thousands) of partitions and fill each partition with whatever information you want. When opening one of the hard drive partitions, you can access what is in there, but the specific section of the hard drive "doesn't know" what the other sections contain. When the mind is split, the handler and/or the programmer can then make any partition in the brain the "active" one, which means the personality which is programmed into that partition will be the main personality. By using trigger words or codes embedded into the program, the programmer/handler can then switch between the pre-programmed personalities of the victim and bring forth a totally different character, setting that one as "active".
This is very useful if you for example want to create a public person who is an excellent entertainer with a gentle personality as a front, someone who appears to be a balanced family person, and then by using trigger words he/she can change into a cold-blooded killer, a drug dealer, a spy or whatever you want to use him for. No one would have suspected this person, because whatever criminal act he/she is programmed to do, it's literally "out of character". And just like the example with the hard drive, the victim himself is often not aware of his different personalities and often doesn't even remember the crime he committed.
Within the Monarch slave's mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors.

Duality patterns, such as checkerboards, stripes or zebras, are also commonly used as triggers for mind control slaves in order to reach specific alters. I didn't add too much stripes symbolism-wise in this post because I was overwhelmed with checkerboards alone.​
The colour white symbolizes light and the Divine, while the black symbolizes darkness and together, they symbolize the duality of man and the diversity of creation under the Great Architect, Lucifer.​
6. Live Performances

I really didn't want to watch those but I might find more clues there... and I did.

Comeback Stage | M COUNTDOWN 180329 EP.564
Hi symmetry... old friend


Inkigayo Ep 951
They really made sure that everything was done... symmetrically


M COUNTDOWN 180412 EP.566


Show Music Score 20180331


Music Bank 20180330


Music Bank 20180413


Show Music core 20180414
As always, I saved the best for the last. Who else finds the shape on the back familiar?


It's a Masonic square and compass, not a triangle.

Check it out by yourself

Knowing SM's history, it's not really surprising

References to my earlier posts:
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-91384
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-81581


It just surprised me a little to see it on stage lol, like they're not hiding it anymore, and people still think it's stage art and nothing more.

They released another MV titled "Love Line" which I don't think has any symbolism in it, or maybe there is but I can't see it at the moment. Nothing really bothered me except the concept of 1 girl for 2 guys which has no relation with occult symbolism whatsoever, just norms.

However, I looked into the stage performances and found Yh doing this sh*t, but uh... it's something we can really expect coming from him, right?



At first, I was unsure if Ch did the same gesture too because the camera was always directed at Yh, then I found out that it's really only Yh doing it.


Conclusion

Don't believe everything I say here, instead, do a research on your own to conclude whether an opinion might be correct or not. There are probably other alternatives into this analysis which I haven't known yet about. The sun temple could be something else and not a place to worship Ra, or maybe Ra doesn't exist at all (lol just kidding, and by Ra... I really mean the Devil). In the end, it's really your own choice whether to keep on supporting these artists or not. Stay awake and vigilant.

Thank you very much for your effort. I love your analysis. Keep it up.
 
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I’ve been saving this baby for a while. We all knew that the entertainment industry was sketchy in every country, but I believe they’re a lot more connected than originally thought. If you didn’t know Katy Perry wrote Loona’s (Odd eye unit) “Girl Front”. Of course in English and then the song was handed to BBC ( Loona’s company) and translated to Korean.
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@lee_ Thank you so much for your analysis it was very interesting! But one thing which make me curious is why they are wearing wedding rings? To who they are married? (I know the easy answer would be to: Satan but who knows?)
Oh I just noticed it. CH is wearing it on the right hand while YH on the left.

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@lee_ Thank you so much for your analysis it was very interesting! But one thing which make me curious is why they are wearing wedding rings? To who they are married? (I know the easy answer would be to: Satan but who knows?)
Oh I just noticed it. CH is wearing it on the right hand while YH on the left.

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I just noticed
He just noticed Shinee also wore those suits and Jonghyun wore a ring on the wedding finger .
 

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TVXQ "The Chance of Love" MV Analysis:

Obsessions with Freemasonry and the Sun God (Ra)

Part 2

Only Ch portrayed like this


Yh wearing Ch's top and Ch wearing Yh's bottom. Artistic reasons? Probably, or... not.


The stage even looks creepier from afar, you just can't stand how symmetrical it is lol


"It's alright, it's okay" —Yh's part
Well, I'm not convinced at all


He finally does it too


Symmetry everywhere



So, what am I trying to say? That Ch is being abused by Yh or something like that? Honestly, I don't know myself. However, I have suspicion that it could be about mind control and duality (hints: mirrors; while Ch is wearing white, Yh wears black; Yh's reflections on Ch; mirrored hands covered in gold sparkles). These guys aren't very different either in terms of physical appearance such as heights, so that makes it easier to create the duality symbolism here. As we can see, one of the guys here is more dominant than the other one. You can see it, you can feel it. On the mind control stuff though, I have something interesting to talk about in the next article.

I might as well explain the mirrors and duality symbolism


In Monarch Programming [an MK ULTRA offspring] the use of mirrors is a basic, important tool to make split multiple personalities. This may sound esoteric and unbelievable to those who are not at all familiar with the techniques, but after reading Springmeier's and Wheeler's book, the following becomes much clearer:​


The "mental mirrors", which are programmed into the victim, create thousands of alters (artificial personalities), which can then be programmed in whatever way the Illuminati programmer wants. It's very similar to partitioning a computer hard drive into hundreds, (sometimes even thousands) of partitions and fill each partition with whatever information you want. When opening one of the hard drive partitions, you can access what is in there, but the specific section of the hard drive "doesn't know" what the other sections contain. When the mind is split, the handler and/or the programmer can then make any partition in the brain the "active" one, which means the personality which is programmed into that partition will be the main personality. By using trigger words or codes embedded into the program, the programmer/handler can then switch between the pre-programmed personalities of the victim and bring forth a totally different character, setting that one as "active".


This is very useful if you for example want to create a public person who is an excellent entertainer with a gentle personality as a front, someone who appears to be a balanced family person, and then by using trigger words he/she can change into a cold-blooded killer, a drug dealer, a spy or whatever you want to use him for. No one would have suspected this person, because whatever criminal act he/she is programmed to do, it's literally "out of character". And just like the example with the hard drive, the victim himself is often not aware of his different personalities and often doesn't even remember the crime he committed.


Within the Monarch slave's mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors.


Duality patterns, such as checkerboards, stripes or zebras, are also commonly used as triggers for mind control slaves in order to reach specific alters. I didn't add too much stripes symbolism-wise in this post because I was overwhelmed with checkerboards alone.​


The colour white symbolizes light and the Divine, while the black symbolizes darkness and together, they symbolize the duality of man and the diversity of creation under the Great Architect, Lucifer.​

6. Live Performances

I really didn't want to watch those but I might find more clues there... and I did.

Comeback Stage | M COUNTDOWN 180329 EP.564
Hi symmetry... old friend


Inkigayo Ep 951
They really made sure that everything was done... symmetrically


M COUNTDOWN 180412 EP.566


Show Music Score 20180331


Music Bank 20180330


Music Bank 20180413


Show Music core 20180414
As always, I saved the best for the last. Who else finds the shape on the back familiar?


It's a Masonic square and compass, not a triangle.

Check it out by yourself

Knowing SM's history, it's not really surprising

References to my earlier posts:
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-91384
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-81581


It just surprised me a little to see it on stage lol, like they're not hiding it anymore, and people still think it's stage art and nothing more.

They released another MV titled "Love Line" which I don't think has any symbolism in it, or maybe there is but I can't see it at the moment. Nothing really bothered me except the concept of 1 girl for 2 guys which has no relation with occult symbolism whatsoever, just norms.

However, I looked into the stage performances and found Yh doing this sh*t, but uh... it's something we can really expect coming from him, right?



At first, I was unsure if Ch did the same gesture too because the camera was always directed at Yh, then I found out that it's really only Yh doing it.


Conclusion

Don't believe everything I say here, instead, do a research on your own to conclude whether an opinion might be correct or not. There are probably other alternatives into this analysis which I haven't known yet about. The sun temple could be something else and not a place to worship Ra, or maybe Ra doesn't exist at all (lol just kidding, and by Ra... I really mean the Devil). In the end, it's really your own choice whether to keep on supporting these artists or not. Stay awake and vigilant.
And if I'm not mistaken there's a small statue of an ancient Egyptian dog placed on a desk (on the right side of the screen at the beginning of the video, sorry for not attaching "print screen" photo but I have no idea how to do it via phone)
 

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TVXQ "The Chance of Love" MV Analysis:

Obsessions with Freemasonry and the Sun God (Ra)

Part 2

Only Ch portrayed like this


Yh wearing Ch's top and Ch wearing Yh's bottom. Artistic reasons? Probably, or... not.


The stage even looks creepier from afar, you just can't stand how symmetrical it is lol


"It's alright, it's okay" —Yh's part
Well, I'm not convinced at all


He finally does it too


Symmetry everywhere



So, what am I trying to say? That Ch is being abused by Yh or something like that? Honestly, I don't know myself. However, I have suspicion that it could be about mind control and duality (hints: mirrors; while Ch is wearing white, Yh wears black; Yh's reflections on Ch; mirrored hands covered in gold sparkles). These guys aren't very different either in terms of physical appearance such as heights, so that makes it easier to create the duality symbolism here. As we can see, one of the guys here is more dominant than the other one. You can see it, you can feel it. On the mind control stuff though, I have something interesting to talk about in the next article.

I might as well explain the mirrors and duality symbolism


In Monarch Programming [an MK ULTRA offspring] the use of mirrors is a basic, important tool to make split multiple personalities. This may sound esoteric and unbelievable to those who are not at all familiar with the techniques, but after reading Springmeier's and Wheeler's book, the following becomes much clearer:​


The "mental mirrors", which are programmed into the victim, create thousands of alters (artificial personalities), which can then be programmed in whatever way the Illuminati programmer wants. It's very similar to partitioning a computer hard drive into hundreds, (sometimes even thousands) of partitions and fill each partition with whatever information you want. When opening one of the hard drive partitions, you can access what is in there, but the specific section of the hard drive "doesn't know" what the other sections contain. When the mind is split, the handler and/or the programmer can then make any partition in the brain the "active" one, which means the personality which is programmed into that partition will be the main personality. By using trigger words or codes embedded into the program, the programmer/handler can then switch between the pre-programmed personalities of the victim and bring forth a totally different character, setting that one as "active".


This is very useful if you for example want to create a public person who is an excellent entertainer with a gentle personality as a front, someone who appears to be a balanced family person, and then by using trigger words he/she can change into a cold-blooded killer, a drug dealer, a spy or whatever you want to use him for. No one would have suspected this person, because whatever criminal act he/she is programmed to do, it's literally "out of character". And just like the example with the hard drive, the victim himself is often not aware of his different personalities and often doesn't even remember the crime he committed.


Within the Monarch slave's mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors.


Duality patterns, such as checkerboards, stripes or zebras, are also commonly used as triggers for mind control slaves in order to reach specific alters. I didn't add too much stripes symbolism-wise in this post because I was overwhelmed with checkerboards alone.​


The colour white symbolizes light and the Divine, while the black symbolizes darkness and together, they symbolize the duality of man and the diversity of creation under the Great Architect, Lucifer.​

6. Live Performances

I really didn't want to watch those but I might find more clues there... and I did.

Comeback Stage | M COUNTDOWN 180329 EP.564
Hi symmetry... old friend


Inkigayo Ep 951
They really made sure that everything was done... symmetrically


M COUNTDOWN 180412 EP.566


Show Music Score 20180331


Music Bank 20180330


Music Bank 20180413


Show Music core 20180414
As always, I saved the best for the last. Who else finds the shape on the back familiar?


It's a Masonic square and compass, not a triangle.

Check it out by yourself

Knowing SM's history, it's not really surprising

References to my earlier posts:
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-91384
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-81581


It just surprised me a little to see it on stage lol, like they're not hiding it anymore, and people still think it's stage art and nothing more.

They released another MV titled "Love Line" which I don't think has any symbolism in it, or maybe there is but I can't see it at the moment. Nothing really bothered me except the concept of 1 girl for 2 guys which has no relation with occult symbolism whatsoever, just norms.

However, I looked into the stage performances and found Yh doing this sh*t, but uh... it's something we can really expect coming from him, right?



At first, I was unsure if Ch did the same gesture too because the camera was always directed at Yh, then I found out that it's really only Yh doing it.


Conclusion

Don't believe everything I say here, instead, do a research on your own to conclude whether an opinion might be correct or not. There are probably other alternatives into this analysis which I haven't known yet about. The sun temple could be something else and not a place to worship Ra, or maybe Ra doesn't exist at all (lol just kidding, and by Ra... I really mean the Devil). In the end, it's really your own choice whether to keep on supporting these artists or not. Stay awake and vigilant.
Thank you lee.
 

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TVXQ "The Chance of Love" MV Analysis:

Obsessions with Freemasonry and the Sun God (Ra)

Part 2

Only Ch portrayed like this


Yh wearing Ch's top and Ch wearing Yh's bottom. Artistic reasons? Probably, or... not.


The stage even looks creepier from afar, you just can't stand how symmetrical it is lol


"It's alright, it's okay" —Yh's part
Well, I'm not convinced at all


He finally does it too


Symmetry everywhere



So, what am I trying to say? That Ch is being abused by Yh or something like that? Honestly, I don't know myself. However, I have suspicion that it could be about mind control and duality (hints: mirrors; while Ch is wearing white, Yh wears black; Yh's reflections on Ch; mirrored hands covered in gold sparkles). These guys aren't very different either in terms of physical appearance such as heights, so that makes it easier to create the duality symbolism here. As we can see, one of the guys here is more dominant than the other one. You can see it, you can feel it. On the mind control stuff though, I have something interesting to talk about in the next article.

I might as well explain the mirrors and duality symbolism


In Monarch Programming [an MK ULTRA offspring] the use of mirrors is a basic, important tool to make split multiple personalities. This may sound esoteric and unbelievable to those who are not at all familiar with the techniques, but after reading Springmeier's and Wheeler's book, the following becomes much clearer:​


The "mental mirrors", which are programmed into the victim, create thousands of alters (artificial personalities), which can then be programmed in whatever way the Illuminati programmer wants. It's very similar to partitioning a computer hard drive into hundreds, (sometimes even thousands) of partitions and fill each partition with whatever information you want. When opening one of the hard drive partitions, you can access what is in there, but the specific section of the hard drive "doesn't know" what the other sections contain. When the mind is split, the handler and/or the programmer can then make any partition in the brain the "active" one, which means the personality which is programmed into that partition will be the main personality. By using trigger words or codes embedded into the program, the programmer/handler can then switch between the pre-programmed personalities of the victim and bring forth a totally different character, setting that one as "active".


This is very useful if you for example want to create a public person who is an excellent entertainer with a gentle personality as a front, someone who appears to be a balanced family person, and then by using trigger words he/she can change into a cold-blooded killer, a drug dealer, a spy or whatever you want to use him for. No one would have suspected this person, because whatever criminal act he/she is programmed to do, it's literally "out of character". And just like the example with the hard drive, the victim himself is often not aware of his different personalities and often doesn't even remember the crime he committed.


Within the Monarch slave's mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors.


Duality patterns, such as checkerboards, stripes or zebras, are also commonly used as triggers for mind control slaves in order to reach specific alters. I didn't add too much stripes symbolism-wise in this post because I was overwhelmed with checkerboards alone.​


The colour white symbolizes light and the Divine, while the black symbolizes darkness and together, they symbolize the duality of man and the diversity of creation under the Great Architect, Lucifer.​

6. Live Performances

I really didn't want to watch those but I might find more clues there... and I did.

Comeback Stage | M COUNTDOWN 180329 EP.564
Hi symmetry... old friend


Inkigayo Ep 951
They really made sure that everything was done... symmetrically


M COUNTDOWN 180412 EP.566


Show Music Score 20180331


Music Bank 20180330


Music Bank 20180413


Show Music core 20180414
As always, I saved the best for the last. Who else finds the shape on the back familiar?


It's a Masonic square and compass, not a triangle.

Check it out by yourself

Knowing SM's history, it's not really surprising

References to my earlier posts:
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-91384
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-81581


It just surprised me a little to see it on stage lol, like they're not hiding it anymore, and people still think it's stage art and nothing more.

They released another MV titled "Love Line" which I don't think has any symbolism in it, or maybe there is but I can't see it at the moment. Nothing really bothered me except the concept of 1 girl for 2 guys which has no relation with occult symbolism whatsoever, just norms.

However, I looked into the stage performances and found Yh doing this sh*t, but uh... it's something we can really expect coming from him, right?



At first, I was unsure if Ch did the same gesture too because the camera was always directed at Yh, then I found out that it's really only Yh doing it.


Conclusion

Don't believe everything I say here, instead, do a research on your own to conclude whether an opinion might be correct or not. There are probably other alternatives into this analysis which I haven't known yet about. The sun temple could be something else and not a place to worship Ra, or maybe Ra doesn't exist at all (lol just kidding, and by Ra... I really mean the Devil). In the end, it's really your own choice whether to keep on supporting these artists or not. Stay awake and vigilant.
ive been curious about these wo especially to yh. their poses were very familiar to jonghyun’s when performing. that one eye never fails. thanks for this
 

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TVXQ "The Chance of Love" MV Analysis:

Obsessions with Freemasonry and the Sun God (Ra)

Part 1


Before we move on to the analysis, I'd like to talk about how SM and their artists just got deeper into this sh*t ever since Jh's death. I'm no insider or anything, but based on my understanding, it could be because they need extra power from an 'external source' to stay undisturbed in the industry. I've noticed that old and popular groups such as SNSD, Super Junior, TVXQ, etc have been losing views and it's been going on for quite some time now. Not even Jh's "Shinin'" got so popular even though it was released after his death. SM needs to put extra effort in what they're doing, especially now with the rise of smaller agencies such as BigHit, and where do they obtain that kind of power? I'm not joking, but it is most likely from who's known as the God of creative power, Ra.

Some of you might have read my post on BoA's NEGA DOLA MV, I've talked about Ra there:
Part 1 - https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-94568
Part 2 - https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-94575

I'm not obsessed with the ancient Egyptian stuff, in case you think that I've talked about this too many times. This is a serious stuff and the people behind this take this do take it very seriously. The deception of Satan goes back to the earliest human history, and this includes the ancient Egyptian religion, but who am I to judge whether a religion is right or wrong? There are various literature about it already, and I'm not in the capacity of explaining it though my own perception, so I'm just going to quote some of them based on neutral perspective. However, since everyone has a different religious background, I suggest reading articles on the ancient Egyptian period that intersect with your own religion to understand about it more.

Why is RA the most important ancient Egyptian god to artists compared to other gods?


Ra also pronounced as Re is an ancient Egyptian Sun God. Ra is king of the gods and the most important Egyptian god since Pre-Dynasty period. The name Ra linked to “creative”. The ancient Egyptians also called Ra “the cattle of Re” the “creator”, the thought to mean “creative power”.


Ra’s appearances portrayed as a hawk head man and a sun disk resting on his head. He created himself from waters of Chaos and he created all the Gods and the universe. He is the father of the first godly couple Shu and Tefnut (symbolized air and moisture), grandfather of Geband Nut(symbolized the earth and sky), great grandfather of Osiris, Set, Isis, Nephthys and great-great grandfather of Horus. These gods are symbolized the combined attributes of divine to function the world. Ra is also the father of Hathor known as “Eye of Ra”.​


Ra amalgamated himself in several other forms such as Khepri (depicted as a beetle) in the morning, in the noon as Horakhty (solar disc) and as Atum (ram headed man) during the sunset. The ancient Egyptians believed that Ra was swallowed by the goddess Nut every night, and reborn every morning again as Khepri. Therefore, the cycle continued with birth, life and death.​


Ra was worshiped with consistency through all history and became very significant during the 5th Dynasty. Over the time Ra changed in one form or another, he represent the sun at all times of the day. The chief cult centre of Ra first was based in Inunu, also known as Heliopolis which means the “City of the Sun”.​

Am I saying that every artist worship Ra? No. I'm saying that many artists do, but not all of them. I dreamed of becoming an artist too in my younger days, did that make me the worshiper of Ra? Of course not. We're only allowed to say that someone does worship Ra when they clearly show the sign themselves, again, we have to be careful because most artists are just puppets to the industry. It might not be them directly, but the higher ups. Still, they have something to do with it.

I have a hard time explaining this to my own friends, so another thing I want to make clear is that good and evil are universal. They have nothing to do with different racial, gender, or religious backgrounds. People don't have to be Egyptian to worship the Sun God, they can be Korean, American, or anything else; and they don't have to live in the ancient times either. Why? Because the one who created the deception still exists until this very day :)

So, what does this have to do with TVXQ?
I don't know RF but I'm guessing that what they said about Yh (of TVXQ) is correct, I don't know how many percent of it is, but it is. He shows the signs himself, so it's safe to say that he's not only a puppet now, he's in charge of something bigger. I will only talk about this based on what's shown and I will not dig deeper since I don't want to create false infomation or rumors. I divided this article into several parts:

1. Is Yh a Freemason?

One of his posts on Instagram:
http://instagr.am/p/BgYnfRwlfOL/
The book is titled "우리는 언*젠가 만난다" or "We'll M*eet One Day" in English, by Chae Sa*jang. I don't think it's been translated into English, so maybe there's only little information about this at the moment. Excuse the lack of explanation here because it's kind of difficult to express what I want to say in English when there's not yet other information available about this book in English. Here's a closer look of that book:


Translation of the cover:
"We'll M*eet One Day"

40 Stunning Stories Connecting I, Others, and The World

by Chae Sa*jang

The hottest humanist writer of our time

Deep and warm confessions and responses on relationships


A short summary:

Everything that's scattered in life will meet one day inside of me!


Through the "The Wide Zone" and "Citizen's Liberalization" (Note: The author's previous book) , the author showed that the real humanities could be easily explained through a single structure, and showed the growth of humanism that made up the knowledge in oneself in the "Eleven stairways" (Note: The author's previous book) that talk about the world and relationships. In "We'll M*eet One Day" the author guides you on how the relationships scattered in the finite of life inside of us and form a shining star.


As soon as we were born, we immediately established relationships with others and with the world. In essence, life starts with the 'homework'/task of relationship of ourselves. But it is the relationship that is difficult, even until the moment of death. In order to understand the meaning of life and death in order to live with strangers and fearful creatures, the author tries to reveal the relationships between humanities and literature, philosophy, religion, history and art.


The book consists of four chapters: "others" whichs deal with the topic of me and others, "world" which deals with the relationship between me and the world, "tools" which deals with the tools that enable relationships, and "meaning" which deals with the topic of death. And tell 40 stories about love, farewell, life, time, pain, language, dream, death, consciousness. Each story seems to be independent, but after reading all of them, it becomes clear that they are strongly connected to each other. Everything is connected in a variety of ways, converging on a huge theme of relationships, shaking our thoughts about relationships and reaching a mysterious conclusion that we will eventually meet one day.

Does this book have an occult connection somehow? I don't know, to be honest since I haven't read the book myself. Am I saying that this book is occult just because Yh likes it? Well, no. That would be ridiculous, wouldn't it? I'm trying to say that we have to be careful with phenomenal books such as this, especially when it contains the keywords: life, death, shining star, mystery, consciousness (Reference: http://book.daum.net/detail/book.do?bookid=KOR9791188248124). "We will meet one day"? Where? Under a one-world-goverment? Does that mean, every self-help/psychological books that contain those keywords are dangerous to the mind? No, and I don't find many books with the exact same keywords either. The number 40 (stories) used in the books may also mean "enlightenment" (http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu40.php)

My last experiences with phenomenal books such as "The S*ecret" by Rh*onda Byrne, "H*omo Deus" by Y*uval Noah H*arari, or even "H*arry P*otter" by J*K R*owling didn't go so well due to the spiritually-dangerous contents inside those books. Those books were said to be thought-provoking while they actually have the abilities to destroy our faith. There are many well-researched articles about those books I mentioned already, you can find them on the internet.

Chae Sa*jang's another book is titled "Eleven Stairways". Both 'stairways' and 'eleven' are important symbolism in Freemasonry.



Well, there is a satanic link that goes back many years to the number 11.​


From Aleister Crowley’s auto handwriting script, “The book of the Law” which he believed was given to him by Lucifer:​


My number is 11, as all their numbers who are of us. The Five Pointed Star, with a Circle in the Middle, & the circle is Red. My colour is black to the blind, but the blue & gold are seen of the seeing. Also I have a secret glory for them that love me.


So, Crowley’s stating Lucifer’s number is 11 and so it is his as well. The five pointed star, with circle in the middle and colors black and red. I can attest that black and red are the colors used in ceremonial magick and those who practice unholy arts. Energetics works and if you think these are naive fools playing Harry Potter fantasies out, then you are the fool. Energetics works when applied correctly and that is why they do it. There is nothing sinister in affecting your environment if it is needed, otherwise why pray for anything? It is the motive of your heart, whom you glorify and give praise that matters. These satanists believe they are doing the perfect will of their god, and they have a right to do it, it’s called FREE WILL.​



The steps of this winding staircase commenced we are informed, at the porch of the Temple; that is to say, at its very entrance. But nothing is more undoubted in the science of Masonic symbolism than that the Temple was the representative of the world purified by the Divine Presence. The world of the profane is without the Temple; the world of the initiated is within its sacred walls. Hence to enter the Temple, to pass within the porch, to be made a mason, and to be born into the world of Masonic light, are all synonymous terms. Here, then, the symbolism of the winding stairs begins.​

The author is heavily influenced by Nietzsche and his "Eternal Return" theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return#Friedrich_Nietzsche), once he talked about why Nietzche's thoughts are important to Korean people and how they may help develop the society of South Korea:

The Illuminati-Freemason and formed satanist and occultist Aliester Crowley was influenced by Friederich Nietzsche. Just like Anton la Vey, founder of the church of Satan who also wrote his satanist philosophy influenced by Nietzsche's writings. (https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=170547)



(Warning: This is a Masonic article that embraces his ideas rather than against them)


I think the most basic idea of becoming a Master Mason is to seek light and become what Nietzsche refers to as the Übermensch or superman. Nietzsche was not a Freemason but many of his ideas are Masonic. This is more important than ever in today’s world when our minds are constantly being bombarded with media propaganda, our bodies with junk food and information overload is assaulting and killing individualism and creativity. Lots of herds are being created, especially in the U.S., and many are eager to follow and adapt the beliefs and ideas of the herd. At the same time, the corporate, political and media masters pull the strings. The vibrations of the herd masters to the masses is one of hatred, intolerance, and fear under the disguise of love, peace, and change. These negative vibrations, along with mass propaganda, have worked well in the past and with the rise of the Internet and social media, are being played to perfection.​

I'm not here to talk about the book. I'm merely trying to link Yh's role now at SM based on his interests, and one of that is that book which seems to have some kind of dark meaning hidden inside. It is possible that he's a Freemason himself now, just like the CEO of SM. On a side note, RM (of BTS) was also influenced by Nietzsche. They both have important roles in their own agencies, right?

2. The hidden meaning behind TVXQ's new logo

This analysis comes from TVXQ's fanbase on Facebook, however since it's written in a foreign language (not English nor Korean), I had to use a translation machine, sorry if it sounds a bit off:


Letter T
The letter T in the logo is taken from the first letter of group identity, TVXQ. The letter T which intersects the middle circle means the golden ratio (phi = 1.618) commonly denoted by (Φ) or (φ) in mathematics. This Phi turned out to have a lot of philosophy behind it.

Phi has the meaning of balance, creativity, universal harmonization, and legend. In addition, Phi can be interpreted as "light". Phi in mathematical abstract algebra is also synonymous with number 2, which is the number of TVXQ members. In the past, Phi was created by Leonardo da Vinci to create "Vitruvian Man" which symbolizes human perfection.

Letter O and X
When viewed slowly, the O halves and X pieces in the middle look like "Celtic Cross". "Celtic Cross" itself symbolizes the sun, the center of the solar system. In addition, "Celtic Cross" is also the symbol of four seasons (hot, semi, autumn, cold), four daily stages (morning, noon, afternoon, night), 4 wind direction (north, east, south, west), and the four elements of the world (water, wind, earth, fire).

More interestingly, "Celtic Cross" is also a symbol of hope, balance, life, power, god, and immortality. In other words, the letters O and X correspond to TVXQ's name meaning "God of the East" which will unite the four forces from various aspects in one point.

Font Color and Background
The new logo of TVXQ has a golden color that means glory. Meanwhile, the combination between the color of gold and black in the background- reminiscent of netizens in the Renaissance era of the 14th century until the 17th in Europe. Renaissance means reborn . If put together, this latest TVXQ logo has a meaning of resurrection with the goal of glory and rise from the dark. (Note: Freemasonry emerged in the Renaissance period)

The month
March was chosen because only in that month will be the full twin moon after January, on the 2nd and 31st of March and both happen Blue Moon natural phenomenon. The full twin Moon aka Blue Moon is symbolized as a rare event, which is very rare.

The comeback date
TVXQ selected March 28th as the comeback date. March 28 is itself the 88th day of the year. 88. is also an 'untouchable' number like 2 and 5. 8 can also be associated with 'Infinity' or luck.

The teaser release date
TVXQ released their first teaser on the 19th. If reduced by the number of days in a year (365) it would appear 287. 287 is a symbol of Indiction, an agreement in Europe that "unites east and west". With the hope of TVXQ can unite the two sides of the east and west. This agreement only happens every 15 years, representing 15 years of TVXQ in 2018.

3. TVXQ's "New Chapter #1: The Chance of Love" Teasers

The prominent use of the colors white, red, and black




The traditional colors of black and red used in Satanism, date all the way back to Ancient Egypt and are symbolic of spiritual transformation to the occult.​


WHITE

White, the original colour of the masonic apron…This is the origin of the word ‘candidate,’ from candidatus ‘dressed in white.’ Druids were robed in white. White is also connected with the idea of death and resurrection. Shrouds are white; spirits are represented as wearing white veils. White, rather than black, is sometimes the colour of mourning,…​


RED

The colour of blood is nat-urally connected with the idea of sacrifice…It has also a darker side, connected with the flames of hell, the appearance of demons, the apoplectic face of rage. Scarlet was the distinctive colour of the Order of the Golden Fleece, established in 1429 by Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy (1419-67). Red is the color of fire, and fire was to the Egyptians the symbol of the regeneration and the purification of souls. Hence, in the Masonic system, red is the symbol of regeneration. Thus red is the color assigned to the Royal Arch Degree since that degree teaches the regeneration of life.​


BLACK

The three fundamental colours found in all civ-ilizations, down to the Middle Ages in Europe, are white, red and black. These, too, may be regarded as the principal colours of Freemasonry: the white of the Craft degrees, the red of the Royal Arch and of certain of the degrees of the Ancient and Accepted (Scottish) Rite, and the black of some of its others, and of the Knights of Malta.​


Traditionally, black is the colour of darkness, death, the underworld although it was not introduced for mourning until about the middle of the fourteenth century, such use becoming habitual only in the sixteenth. The ‘black humour’ of melancholy (atara hilis) the black crow of ill omen, the black mass, black market, ‘black days’: all refer to negative aspects. The Black Stone at Mecca is believed by Muslims to have been at one time white; the sins of man caused the transformation. In the French and Scottish Rites, the lodge in the third degree is decorated in black and is strewn with white or silver tears, representing the sorrow caused by the death of Hiram Abif. Black from the remotest antiquity has been the symbol of grief and such is its significance to the Mason.​

One-eye symbolism




Nowadays there are various (famous) representations of this symbol, from its Egyptian times, the “eye” has also made it to the back of the $1 bill, the mostly widely used and recognized currency note in the history of money.​


You can see the Egyptian pyramid with the all seeing eye on the top of it.​


There it represents the Eye of Providence; which acts as a reminder that one’s thoughts and actions are being observed all the time by a force greater than us.​


This symbol is also borrowed by Freemasonry, where it symbolises the omnipresence of the Great Architect of the Universe (or the creator), who is “watching everything” that happens in this world. (Note: This is 'Ra' all over again)


It therefore symbolises the Supreme Being. Thus, all human beings are under the same sky and under the watchful eye of a superior power.​


Nowadays in society we see symbols of it every day. It’s exploited in apparel and jewelry which prove that this powerful symbol still exists in humanity’s collective imagination and curiosity.​

This particular teaser video bothered me. Starting from 0:07, there's a room that is full of white smoke which reminds me of Jh's cause of death (carbonmonoxide poisoning) and how the room might look like when he was found:
Well, not really surprising since EXO did the same in their winter album "Universe".

4. "The Chance of Love" lyrics



Artificial things are no fun​

When our eyes meet​

That’s how our conversation began​

Come to me as if you’re being pushed to me


At this unrealistic situation, I’ve fallen into delirium

You’re not holding back, you shake me up strongly​


All of the cells in my body scream that it’s you

This predetermined history fills up a page

How can I define this interaction with words?​

It’s alright it’s OK​

It’s destiny​


In my way, only one way, come and fall into me

I’ll show you a new perspective of the world


Now cast a spell with a whisper

So only I can see your eyes​

Your eyes are falling for me like destiny​

By my side, you’ll be the best​


We’ll keep it together, we’ll fall in magic

every single day

This special feeling feels new every day​

We will keep it together, we pray that

we own each other up all night

Follow me, however you’re pulled

I've noticed that there's a pattern that SM uses in their latest releases, they have the same underlying messages. For example, Red Velvet's "Bad Boy" lyrics sounds similar to TVXQ's "The Chance of Love"":

Red Velvet - Bad Boy

I’m sure you’re confused, you can’t even imagine

You can try to escape but there’s not a single crack to go through

The answer is already there, just follow me naturally

I chose you, I already chose you


Like you’re bewitched, follow me

Everyone cheers, I told you, Ooh ooh (Oh-eh-oh-eh-oh)

The result is always the same, Ooh ooh (Oh-eh-oh-eh-oh)

See? I won again

Notice the keywords: bewitched, spell, magic, new world. I know that some people may argue that those are just typical love songs, but here we better look at it from another perspective, especially when there are just so many symbolism that we can't ignore. What's the best way to fool us into doing what they want us to do other than making every symbolism and sinister lyrics look and sound normal, anyway? That way, they can feed us with Satanic messages every single time and we will be foolishly consuming what they're giving us.

5. Symbolism in "The Chance of Love" Music Video

PS. This MV has no obvious storyline, so let's focus on the symbolism instead

The MV started with Ch entering a dimly lighted room, we can see his reflection on a mirror.
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The reflection suddenly switched into Yh's, it's still the same mirror.
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In the next scene, we can see Yh spinning in front of multiple full-body mirrors.
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White, red, and black (see "Major Colors of the Illuminati Cult" as reference)
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Ch is seen wearing a choker. Not sure if it's directly linked to him, but he does seem to have a lower position than Yh, therefore he's the one who wears it.
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According to expert curators from the Jewelry Museum of Fine Arts in Boston, chokers have been around for thousands of years, first gracing the world’s earliest civilizations: the Sumer Empire in Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt. Often done up in gold or lapis, the necklaces were thought to be protective and imbued with special powers.​


Chokers emerged again throughout the Renaissance as purely stylistic choices and were especially popular with royals towards the end of the 19th century. During this latter period, women in Germany and Austria also used the necklaces to hide lumps on their necks caused by goiter, a disease common across the Alps at the time. In other corners of the world, simpler ribbon-chokers were symbols of prostitution, as depicted in Manet’s famous 1863 painting “Olympia,” though the look lost some of its sordid associations when adopted by ballerinas soon after.​

Notice the symmetrical stage behind him, everything is precise, even the digital visual on the screen (I don't know what it's called)
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Who loves symmetry and proportion? No other than Freemasons.

Symmetry and Proportion

"Without symmetry and proportion there can be no principles in the design of any temple; that is, if there is no precise relation between its members, as in the case of those of a well shaped man."​


Vitruvius, Book III, Chap. 1​



They seem to be in a powerful position and in control of those people whose faces are covered
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I remember seeing the helmet that I marked red somewhere (on a movie probably), if anyone knows please tell me and we'll see if it means anything or not
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Now, what we saw in the beginning of the MV is happening again. Ch is switching into Yh based on the reflection in the mirrors. Yes, it's creepy when you think of it. This particular scene is very fast so you may not notice it. This kind of scene will keep on happening all throughout the MV.
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Two hands that are covered in gold sparkle. It is actually a reflection of one hand (mirrored).


SYMBOLIC MEANING OF GOLD
Technically (and alchemically) speaking, gold is a soft, shiny, yellow, heavy, malleable, ductile metal. It is also a trivalent and a univalent which means it’s a transitional metal.

As a transitional metal, gold is symbolic of flexibility on our spiritual path while life experience galvanizes our faith.

One of the more valued elements, gold represents perfection in all matter, on any level. It also symbolizes humankind’s quest to perfect, illuminate and refine his/herself.

Ch with Yh's reflection again


The hands are now moving and touching


So are they


Only Yh does this (I will include stage performances later)


It's time for the climax. They are casually climbing the stairs of what seems to be a sun temple, for no reasons lol.


Then they start dancing up there, also casually. Yh taking up the front position.


Want another look on how they're doing it very casually? Lol.


You just can't argue with me at this point, because everything is clearly Masonic here


I hope it looks familiar now

I’ve always wondered the Fascination American society has with Egypt. I say this because Egypt is in Africa and this is the only African civilization we learn about in school. It also seems like Europeans try to claim Egypt as their own which always made me wonder what is it about Egypt that they are trying to claim. Secondly I’m familiar with Egypt from a Biblical perspective and it’s known that the Egyptians practiced magic and their own sorcery. When Moses went to pharaoh do demand that he release the hebrews the Egyptian magicians were able to mimic the signs God gave Moses to use. There was a reason why God told the Hebrews not to take on their customs.


One time on Facebook this guy that was an atheist brought up why God would allow kids to die with the plagues that was sent to Egypt

A thought came to me that explained to him. You don’t know what these people were. We know that they didn’t serve the “True and living God” we know they practiced magic, we know they had knowledge. The Egyptians could have been Hybrids of the Nephelim which is why God didn’t want the Hebrews to mingle with them or learn their customs. I thought about this too. What if the Hebrews were the “chosen” people because their DNA was not mixed? what if all the other civilizations they fought and killed were civilians mixed with Nephilims? What if that’s why God wanted to direct them and lead them so they didn’t get mixed up in all of that? Wouldn’t it be the same today? Obviously there is an agenda to mix humans with machine or alien, what if God has been trying to stop this since the beginning of time and we’ve just been walking into it like blindly because of knowledge? “The knowledge of Good and evil” that Adam and Eve wanted. What if we are still eating the fruit unknowingly?
 

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I’ve always wondered the Fascination American society has with Egypt. I say this because Egypt is in Africa and this is the only African civilization we learn about in school. It also seems like Europeans try to claim Egypt as their own which always made me wonder what is it about Egypt that they are trying to claim. Secondly I’m familiar with Egypt from a Biblical perspective and it’s known that the Egyptians practiced magic and their own sorcery. When Moses went to pharaoh do demand that he release the hebrews the Egyptian magicians were able to mimic the signs God gave Moses to use. There was a reason why God told the Hebrews not to take on their customs.


One time on Facebook this guy that was an atheist brought up why God would allow kids to die with the plagues that was sent to Egypt

A thought came to me that explained to him. You don’t know what these people were. We know that they didn’t serve the “True and living God” we know they practiced magic, we know they had knowledge. The Egyptians could have been Hybrids of the Nephelim which is why God didn’t want the Hebrews to mingle with them or learn their customs. I thought about this too. What if the Hebrews were the “chosen” people because their DNA was not mixed? what if all the other civilizations they fought and killed were civilians mixed with Nephilims? What if that’s why God wanted to direct them and lead them so they didn’t get mixed up in all of that? Wouldn’t it be the same today? Obviously there is an agenda to mix humans with machine or alien, what if God has been trying to stop this since the beginning of time and we’ve just been walking into it like blindly because of knowledge? “The knowledge of Good and evil” that Adam and Eve wanted. What if we are still eating the fruit unknowingly?
The same thing happened to me related to an atheist guy and I reply him this, this and this. :")

Maybe that's what really HE want from us to do but still, HE also know that we don't respond to HIM the way like HE want to. We're still going and going until finally, HE'll probably be like :
"Okay, you decide to do this to ME so, hey earth, you filthy earth, you will reap what you sow. I already tried to stop you but many of you are still planning and going against ME until I have to put an end on this. I love all of you but I will not let MYSELF being played with MY own creation."

Egypt was used to be a kingdom full of gods such as Ra, Anubis et cetera. It seems that they're interested more to the forbidden knowledge that they had or they're really connected to Egypt through blood without us even realize.

And about Hybrids or Nephilims, take a look at sphinx. It's not imposibble that their DNA are mixed with these creatures. Especially their pha'raoh.
 

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Yes now that I did think mighty strange in regard to the apparent text he sent. I did say something about this being odd somewhere on this forum. Odd because he apparently sent it and then thinks , ‘ I know let me get some food and drink’ ! BUT he had his phone with him in the shop. Was it just for attention, a last act?

Agree though, that it So weird the car revving was too. As was hanging about out the front of the store for a long time. Maybe he was scared of what was about to happen?

Another question was the suicide note being held by his friend 9, a blue night friend he said, again odd as that was written a couple of weeks before he died wasn’t it? Then if so, why did he contact the reporter on the 18th December about a new book he wanted to write?

As I said if he was cremated, as that article from the reporter stated, then doing that stopped an investigation didn’t it? , no autopsy was done was it , and if carried out it may of revealed something.

Vomit could be the effects of the carbon monoxide.

I admittedly did question why someone posted a picture of him dead. Angry at that and heartbroken :mad::(That really is so strange too. and a awful thing to do. I mean, It’s not normal to do is it? Besides when I saw that on searching about his death, I thought it wasn’t him at first. as it looked like he had dark hair in that, and looked asleep bless our angel. Again this may have been posted to say here you go, he is dead so don’t think he is alive somewhere. End the speculation.
Also, I mentioned this before but a few months back before he died Jonghyun wore a blazer with Curt Cobain’s suicide letter (who may I add was a very famous musician who also died at 27 yrs, apparently by suicide but many suspect he was murdered by the illuminati)

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(Here you can see part of the blazer up close )

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(Curt cobain’s suicide letter )
note that Jonghyun and most kpop idols don’t choose their own clothes, their stylists do so it’s a bit creepy and sad that jonghyun didn’t even know what it means

Many fans were upset about this, there was actually a whole controversy surrounding it

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/07/fans-are-not-happy-with-shinee-jonghyuns-stylist-for-giving-him-a-jacket-with-kurt-cobains-suicide-note
 

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Also, I mentioned this before but a few months back before he died Jonghyun wore a blazer with Curt Cobain’s suicide letter (who may I add was a very famous musician who also died at 27 yrs, apparently by suicide but many suspect he was murdered by the illuminati)

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(Here you can see part of the blazer up close )

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(Curt cobain’s suicide letter )
note that Jonghyun and most kpop idols don’t choose their own clothes, their stylists do so it’s a bit creepy and sad that jonghyun didn’t even know what it means

Many fans were upset about this, there was actually a whole controversy surrounding it

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/07/fans-are-not-happy-with-shinee-jonghyuns-stylist-for-giving-him-a-jacket-with-kurt-cobains-suicide-note
how can you say he didnt know what that blazer means?for me he knew it. he can understand english it’s just hes not fluent in it. and fans were even surprised how the hell he had that blazer when in fact it was already pulled out from the market due to the sensitivity content of it. it was not meant to be a fashion trend, but how the hell it went into jonghyun’s stylists or SM or into his possession? it was still a question to whether the stylists or it was he himself who chose that. for me it seemed to me that during those times he was asking for help and implications - whether he will be died by suicide or someone would want him to die that will make it look like he committed suicide. for me, jonghyun knew it beforehand that this will really happen. and it seemed to me it was a long year 2017 preparation for that. it started from his radio resignation- his song Let Me Out- did a lot of concerts both with shinee and solo- etc. remember the suit he wore in his last concert- MJ’s smooth criminal concept. in MJ’s MV of smooth criminal which tells us MJ discovered the secret of the underground society and that they wanted him dead for that. i dont know, but this is just me. :confused:22058DA8-02EC-4C53-9ADA-C402F232D7CF.jpeg22058DA8-02EC-4C53-9ADA-C402F232D7CF.jpeg
 

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@mochii @Miss Bunny I'm angry that people are lying in the comments saying its a police guy in the photo.. to hide the fact that Jonghyun was not acting suicidal.whats up with that?

they also saying that dying through carbon monixde poisening is painless and fast...theres vomit on the floor in his room so thats a lie also read this https://www.quora.com/How-does-carbon-monoxide-produce-a-cherry-red-color-in-the-skin-of-a-person-who-died-of-CO-intoxication
im wondering too if this was really the scene from the apartment he was last seen in or if this video is legit. ithink they were not lying, they were just saying their opinion. im sure all of us still dont know exactly wha really had happened behind the scenes. you know everything that media shows us we dont know if just a propaganda or what.
 

DarkAndWild

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how can you say he didnt know what that blazer means?for me he knew it. he can understand english it’s just hes not fluent in it. and fans were even surprised how the hell he had that blazer when in fact it was already pulled out from the market due to the sensitivity content of it. it was not meant to be a fashion trend, but how the hell it went into jonghyun’s stylists or SM or into his possession? it was still a question to whether the stylists or it was he himself who chose that. for me it seemed to me that during those times he was asking for help and implications - whether he will be died by suicide or someone would want him to die that will make it look like he committed suicide. for me, jonghyun knew it beforehand that this will really happen. and it seemed to me it was a long year 2017 preparation for that. it started from his radio resignation- his song Let Me Out- did a lot of concerts both with shinee and solo- etc. remember the suit he wore in his last concert- MJ’s smooth criminal concept. in MJ’s MV of smooth criminal which tells us MJ discovered the secret of the underground society and that they wanted him dead for that. i dont know, but this is just me. :confused:View attachment 6349View attachment 6349
I respect your opinion but I’m sorry I do not agree.
how can you say he didnt know what that blazer means?for me he knew it. he can understand english it’s just hes not fluent in it. and fans were even surprised how the hell he had that blazer when in fact it was already pulled out from the market due to the sensitivity content of it. it was not meant to be a fashion trend, but how the hell it went into jonghyun’s stylists or SM or into his possession? it was still a question to whether the stylists or it was he himself who chose that. for me it seemed to me that during those times he was asking for help and implications - whether he will be died by suicide or someone would want him to die that will make it look like he committed suicide. for me, jonghyun knew it beforehand that this will really happen. and it seemed to me it was a long year 2017 preparation for that. it started from his radio resignation- his song Let Me Out- did a lot of concerts both with shinee and solo- etc. remember the suit he wore in his last concert- MJ’s smooth criminal concept. in MJ’s MV of smooth criminal which tells us MJ discovered the secret of the underground society and that they wanted him dead for that. i dont know, but this is just me. :confused:View attachment 6349View attachment 6349
Do you even understand how the music industry works to begin with? Firstly I never stated it was for aesthetic or fashion purposes but what I was trying to point out is that most of the times kpop idols have no say in their clothing choices, and I suspect that this was the case with jonghyun too. SM knew what they were doing from the start. The blazer that he wore was some type of foreshadowing for the events to come, of course they wanted to make it seem like it was a clue of jonghyun’s “suicidal tendancies” or “messed up mental health” so that many ppl like yourself would suspect his death was actually suicide-linked and indeed not murder.
Even if you look at one of their old Mv’s one of it had “tally lines” like this on jonghyun’s arms


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Idk if you know this but tally lines represent a count down to a certain event, (in fact it was most often used by inmates who felt trapped, and who were literally and figuratively seeking a way out almost as if jonghyun was seeking a way out) this in its self may be a clue to “jonghyun’s suicidal tendencies” as you might say BUT THE FLAW IN THAT ARGUMENT IS THAT IN THIS CASE I doubt jonghyun actually drew those tally lines himself? IT WAS FOR A CONCEPT, ONE THAT SM LIKELY OCHESTRATED THEMSELVES. what I’m basically trying to say is that SM have been foreshadowing his death all along through little subliminal signs like these. To you and me it might look like jonghyun was just crying for help all along but it’s more than that. It’s almost as if SM was taking advantage of his mental state to foreshadow his murder
 
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Also, I mentioned this before but a few months back before he died Jonghyun wore a blazer with Curt Cobain’s suicide letter (who may I add was a very famous musician who also died at 27 yrs, apparently by suicide but many suspect he was murdered by the illuminati)

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(Here you can see part of the blazer up close )

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(Curt cobain’s suicide letter )
note that Jonghyun and most kpop idols don’t choose their own clothes, their stylists do so it’s a bit creepy and sad that jonghyun didn’t even know what it means

Many fans were upset about this, there was actually a whole controversy surrounding it

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/07/fans-are-not-happy-with-shinee-jonghyuns-stylist-for-giving-him-a-jacket-with-kurt-cobains-suicide-note

The controversy was that someone wrote the bottom bit of the letter to make it seem he (curt) wanted suicide.

Jonghyun seemed to have excerpts from his songs in his letter(if he actually wrote it) Exhausted from this world etc .

I just can’t get my head round he apparently texted then went in the shop. So odd, I know I wouldn’t be thinking of food.

One things for sure he looked scared at his concert, he swallowed a few times and his face looked swollen towards the end. He was layered in makeup and this concert for the first time he didn’t cry . More like he was so scared of something for sure. I am heartbroken and just can’t stop thinking about him . :(
 

SailorGalaxy

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Also, I mentioned this before but a few months back before he died Jonghyun wore a blazer with Curt Cobain’s suicide letter (who may I add was a very famous musician who also died at 27 yrs, apparently by suicide but many suspect he was murdered by the illuminati)

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(Here you can see part of the blazer up close )

View attachment 6348
(Curt cobain’s suicide letter )
note that Jonghyun and most kpop idols don’t choose their own clothes, their stylists do so it’s a bit creepy and sad that jonghyun didn’t even know what it means

Many fans were upset about this, there was actually a whole controversy surrounding it

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/07/fans-are-not-happy-with-shinee-jonghyuns-stylist-for-giving-him-a-jacket-with-kurt-cobains-suicide-note
Wow I didn't know about this! This is beyond creepy. I'm actually 100% convinced that Jonghyun was killed. And I think he knew what that means. :(
 
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