BTS discussion thread

[Maggieca]

Hello this thread is for kpop group BTS!

DISCLAIMER: all the topics and theories discussed here are pure speculation. The information should NOT be taken as facts

Before you start I recommend you to check this useful information:

1. BTS theory sacrifices: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/02/14/bts-theory-sacrifices/
2. BTS "boy in luv" posters connections theory: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/bts-boy-in-luv-posters/
3. More connections found: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/03/27/more-connections-found-bts-theory/
4. Illuminati Rituals theory: https://divingdeep2017.wordpress.com/2017/05/05/illuminati-rituals-theory/

All credit to @Bae Yeon Hee

Video explaining WINGS symbolism and the "Demian" book:

Video explaining the illuminati symbolism in their MVs:

Video explaining the symbolism in the bulding that inspired their new logo:

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[Maggieca]

Also about this new theory about the "glitch" something is very strange
why put a glitch on their video now?

http://imgur.com/jW9dokN

And that youtuber making a conspiracy about them is very suspicious could be related to this? lets wait and see

Some fans are saying their old videos and performances have glitches too (even NMD their debut video?) could this be planned since the beggining too?

this is what the fans are saying on reddit:

Here's what we know:
- it appeared around 3 days ago
- it's part of the video itself, because it can still be seen once downloaded
- it doesn't appear on Google Chrome (both mobile and desktop)
- BTS' Vlive picture has also been seen glitching (source)
- there's no issue with YouTube at the moment, and no other videos have been glitching
- their MAMA performance featured a glitching scene with the text "No Signal" (source)
- it's very creepy that the video that's glitching is titled "Run"

EDIT: BigHit has been on YouTube today! A new playlist was created on the BangtanTV channel and others are saying that some older playlists have been updated too. (source)

EDIT 2: Run has been removed from BigHit's "Dance Practice" playlist (source)

EDIT 3: #BTSGlitchParty is trending worldwide on Twitter

EDIT 4: The glitch in the No More Dream MV was always there, I just checked an old reaction (smh BigHit )

 

[Maggieca]

Some fans believe this glitching thing could be related to the jacked RM wore in some award show, apparently it said “Human Control System”

Also:

Glitch art starts conversations that traditional art forms can't really access, just by the nature of how it's created. How much do we control our technology, and how much does it control us? Can technology ever transcend the imperfection inherent in its human creators?

I think this could related to their DNA music video and that microchip agenda they were trying to promote there

 

[Maggieca]

The most scary thing for me is how fans see the glitch on the "No more dream" video, its so strange how the company had this planned since the debut? how is this even possible?

Even int their MAMA performance from years before they already used the glitch
I don't understand how they have their concepts planned with so much anticipation, everything seems to be scripted in detail

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

lol thanks for coming. Lets keep this place going

i saw that building and is very creepy. Illuminati symbols all around
i also thought it was weird how they changed their logo, i mean their name is bulletproof boys so the new logo makes no sense at all, but it looks exactly like that building so there must be something more to it

I guess its mean they are putting their foot or base in USA, and I actually think they made something with hollywood, thats why they changed their logo to something related to hollywood

 

[Maggieca]

I guess its mean they are putting their foot or base in USA, and I actually think they made something with hollywood, thats why they changed their logo to something related to hollywood

I believe this too.There was no reason for them to change their logo

Their old one was a perfect representation of their name but the new one is very strange
I mean what is this?

They also changed their "american" name to beyond the scene, I wonder what that means

 

[Maggieca]

I think they came to america not just for the billboard or AMAs but to be initiated into whatever goes on there.
And like I said, I think the logo helps send the message out there to other members of this club, so they know bts is who to focus on right now. Also why I think these random celebrities are suddenly posting about them, talking about them. Gotta make the army bigger, so theres more people to influence?

oh yeah all these celebrities talking about them is no coincidence. They can like the group but promoting them so much? there is no way they are doing it because they are "so kind"

And you pointed out all of them wearing red on that performance, people in the occult usually send those kind of symbols to those who are in the know to tell them they are willing to participate in rituals
It's strange they didnt do that Jimmy Kimmel interview when it was the original plan

 

[Maggieca]

I wonder if the fact that some of them had more red clothing than other's means something? it must. but what? maybe to have more focus on them? or saying they are more willing? or to show they are more "aware"? I'm gonna have to research that a bit more.

lol if thats the case then Yoongi was trying to send a message lol

I remember when they went to the AMAs after the show they did a vlive and some of the members wanted to go to the after party but others didnt, I thought it was weird because you have the chance to go to this party and make conections but you avoid it?
I saw some fans saying Jungkook was the one who didnt want to go (not confirmed this is just a comment I read). So like you said I believe some of them are more willing to partcicipate than others

When I see their interviews I think RM and Yoongi are clearly in charge of the group, they speak way more than the others and they know exactly what their music is about

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

oh yeah all these celebrities talking about them is no coincidence. They can like the group but promoting them so much? there is no way they are doing it because they are "so kind"

And you pointed out all of them wearing red on that performance, people in the occult usually send those kind of symbols to those who are in the know to tell them they are willing to participate in rituals
It's strange they didnt do that Jimmy Kimmel interview when it was the original plan

I have mentioned that thing many time that I don't believe actually any of the american celebrities to be real fan, and some fans here didn't like this thing...any way it was just obvious that they meant to be promoted in USA, the illuminati is doing everything to get them to the US

 

[Maggieca]

Also look at Yoongi's facial expression, it's kind of creepy and intense. As much I like him, there are behaviors that I don't.. they just don't feel right to me. I once saw him being really rude and push away with his hand, a girl that works for them. It could just be bad manners, or the sexist culture, but I thought it was really rude and not going along with the "image" he makes up.

oh really i never saw that
I think the lyrics of his mixtape were a bit strange, there was one song where he said he had to kill the old Yoongi to be where he is now. He also was the one who wrote that creepy "pied piper" song talking about the fans being blind followers hypnotized by them
People usually say RM is the one in charge but I think Yoongi has a lot of influence in their music too

 

[MochiAmour]

Also about this new theory about the "glitch" something is very strange
why put a glitch on their video now?

http://imgur.com/jW9dokN

And that youtuber making a conspiracy about them is very suspicious could be related to this? lets wait and see

Some fans are saying their old videos and performances have glitches too (even NMD their debut video?) could this be planned since the beggining too?

this is what the fans are saying on reddit:

Here's what we know:
- it appeared around 3 days ago
- it's part of the video itself, because it can still be seen once downloaded
- it doesn't appear on Google Chrome (both mobile and desktop)
- BTS' Vlive picture has also been seen glitching (source)
- there's no issue with YouTube at the moment, and no other videos have been glitching
- their MAMA performance featured a glitching scene with the text "No Signal" (source)
- it's very creepy that the video that's glitching is titled "Run"

EDIT: BigHit has been on YouTube today! A new playlist was created on the BangtanTV channel and others are saying that some older playlists have been updated too. (source)

EDIT 2: Run has been removed from BigHit's "Dance Practice" playlist (source)

EDIT 3: #BTSGlitchParty is trending worldwide on Twitter

EDIT 4: The glitch in the No More Dream MV was always there, I just checked an old reaction (smh BigHit )

Apparently their youtube subscribe button keeps disappearing too. Their website also shows an error format. This is very creepy!

 

[Maggieca]

Apparently their youtube subscribe button keeps disappearing too. Their website also shows an error format. This is very creepy!

wow its crazy and very creepy

But what type of agenda are they trying to pomote this time? I think this comeback could be huge tbh.
They have been planning it for so long but what type of company goes this far and for what?

 

[Maggieca]

Do you believe in the theory that some famous people are secretly trans?

I dont know maybe some might be but like I said in the old thread a lot of the conspiracy about it seems like a reach

I think the elite could use it to promote an agenda (like they did with Bruce Jenner) but what would be the point for celebs to be trans if the general public doesnt know? this is why I have doubts

 

[Kas]

oh yeah I saw that now
And I notice Yoongi is bit distant from the others in backstage videos, maybe is just his personality but in the past it looked like some members (especially Taehyung) were intimidated by him

I believe idols show a different personality on camera, I saw a video of a girl who used to work for YG and she talked about the group Winner and how the company asked staff to write a personality for each member before their debut so this is normal in kpop and considering how much attention to detail Bighit has I wouldnt be surprised if they had a personality designed for every member. Like Jhope always has to act happy, jimin is cute mochi, yoongi is the "lazy" rapper, Jin is handsome, but in real life they are not so one dimensional

Can I have the link to this YG girls video?

 

[Maggieca]

Can I have the link to this YG girls video?

here is the video. She starts to talk about it in the minute 10:20

what do youu think? considering this is YG the company of "freedom" this is even more strange right?

 

[ShiningCarat14]

oh yeah I saw that now
And I notice Yoongi is bit distant from the others in backstage videos, maybe is just his personality but in the past it looked like some members (especially Taehyung) were intimidated by him

I believe idols show a different personality on camera, I saw a video of a girl who used to work for YG and she talked about the group Winner and how the company asked staff to write a personality for each member before their debut so this is normal in kpop and considering how much attention to detail Bighit has I wouldnt be surprised if they had a personality designed for every member. Like Jhope always has to act happy, jimin is cute mochi, yoongi is the "lazy" rapper, Jin is handsome, but in real life they are not so one dimensional

Yes I have realised this too one of them said that V and Suga aren’t as close because they have different views on things that don’t match I saw a video where Suga looked at V and he looked scared of him
Recently they have always been in group games together and have been partnered up a lot so maybe that’s they’re closer now

 

[the world is a stage]

I believe this too.There was no reason for them to change their logo

Their old one was a perfect representation of their name but the new one is very strange
I mean what is this?

They also changed their "american" name to beyond the scene, I wonder what that means

Yes it's very suspicious

 

[MochiAmour]

I dont know maybe some might be but like I said in the old thread a lot of the conspiracy about it seems like a reach

I think the elite could use it to promote an agenda (like they did with Bruce Jenner) but what would be the point for celebs to be trans if the general public doesnt know? this is why I have doubts

Bruce Jenner was trans since birth though. He didn't get forced into it by the elite. But, he was definitely encouraged to make the full transition since his family is heavily involved in the occult and it would be considered as a sacrifice. He's changed these days and it's not just his gender. He's become fame hungry like his ex-wife and daughters, it saddens me because I'd always felt sorry for how he was treated by them but now he's just like them.

I don't believe any of BTS is trans either. There's too many receipts of them being born male and even their body build is that of men. Plus in Korea, especially back then, they would never of been allowed to make the transition as children.

Yes I have realised this too one of them said that V and Suga aren’t as close because they have different views on things that don’t match I saw a video where Suga looked at V and he looked scared of him
Recently they have always been in group games together and have been partnered up a lot so maybe that’s they’re closer now

Interesting pov. I've never seen anything that would elude to Taehyung being intimidated by Suga personally. But it's a known fact that they've always been the ones to not quite get along and argue often because of how different their personalities are. I don't think they would have so many disagreements if one is scared of the other but that's based on behaviour I've personally seen in situations like that.

 

[MochiAmour]

In my opinion is not that difficult to plain the concepts of the first...lets say 5 albums and put some hints here and there, maybe some things weren't even planned but "re-picked", think of it as a book serie like Game of Thrones where you can find hits about the later books in the earlier books.
About what they are trying to promote...well, i think the concept may be "mind controll", it has been hinted already in others video(look at JHope mama trailer), they already anticipated the themes will be darker so we can't expect something optimistic.

Their MV DNA is about MK-Ultra and obviously DNA (lol) but on a lot more of a sinister level imo. I've been researching a lot about it because I'm planning on doing an analysis but haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

[tyrab]

I saw this on twitter:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/979867207453888512

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/980083594285678593