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This was in the other thread but anyway what do you guys think about these lyrics:
These are from suga's solo song the last from his mixtape he is known that he has depression:
On the other side of the famous idol rapper
Stands my weak self, it’s quite dangerous
Depression, OCD, they keep coming back again from time to time
Hell no perhaps that might be my true self

damn huh feeling estranged in reality
The conflict with ideal, my head hurts
Around the age of 18, socio-phobia developed in me
Right, that was when my mind was gradually polluted

At times I’m scared of myself too,
Self hated and thanks to the depression that takes over me
Min Yoongi is dead already (I’m dead)
Comparing my dead passion with others, it’s now a part of my daily life

On the first visit to psychiatric ward, my parents came up with me
We listened to the consultation together, my parents said they don’t truly understand me
I don’t understand myself well either, then who would understand?
Friend? Or you? Nobody knows me well

The doctor asks me
I answered without any hesitation that I have done

Habitual saying uh I don’t give a shit I don’t give a fuck
All those words uh those words are said to hide my weak self
Those days I wish I could erase
Right, that performance day which I don’t remember very well
The day I confronted myself when I hid inside the toilet because I was scared of people

That time I, that time I
I thought success will make everything fine
But you see, but you see
As time goes by, I feel like I’m turning into a monster

I’ve exchanged my youth for success, and that monster demands for more wealth
At times it puts a collar on my neck to ruin and swallow me with greed
Some try to shut my mouth and say I should swallow both good and evil
I don’t want it they want me to leave this hill

shit shit I got it so stop it
I’m the root of all this so I’ll stop myself
If my misfortune is your happiness, I’ll happily stay unfortunate
If I’m the figure of hate, I’ll get on the guillotine

The things I’ve imaged about turns into reality
My childhood dreams are in front of my eyes
The night when I performed in front of 2 audience
Now Tokyo Dome is right in front my nose
My one and only life, I can easily live it passionately than any other
my fan my hommie my fam I hope you don’t worry because I’m really okay now damn

I’ve denied my nature many times
My address is idol and I won’t deny
The anguish that dug into my mind countless times
There’s no answer at the end of wandering

My pride which I thought I had given away has turned into self-respect
My fans, keep your head high with pride because who can do it like me uh

Seiko, Rolex, AX (hall) and Gymnastic (stadium)
The heads of thousands nodding to my hand gesture
Show me the money, it’s not that I couldn’t but I didn’t shit
Selling ourselves or not, you all say we couldn’t do it but we didn’t shit
The root of my creativity has tasted the sweet, bitter and shit of this world
Those days when I laid down to sleep on the toilet floor, it’s all memories now uh they’re now memories
My shoulder which shattered thanks to the accident I met during my part time job
The debut which I clung as if it was my life
Who do you think your fool by pretending you’ve gone through all the miseries

Seiko, Rolex, AX (hall) and Gymnastic (stadium)
The heads of thousands nodding to my hand gesture
Sorrow created me uh look at me closely uh
Selling ourselves or not you all say we couldn’t do it but we didn’t shit

And these are lyrics from v's solo song from the wings album some people are saying it's about him being gay and some people thought about what crime and sins he was returning keep in mind v's solo song is the only song we were never given the meaning the meaning about:

I’ve been hiding this, I tell you something
To just have it buried
I can’t hold it in anymore
I don’t know why I couldn’t say it then
It hurt
So I really couldn’t have held it in anymore anyway

Now cry, I am just so sorry for you
And cry, I couldn’t keep you safe

Now deeper and deeper, the wound gets deeper
It’s like a broken piece of glass that can’t be turned back
Every day, it’s only my heart that hurts deeper
You were so fragile
And you received my punishment instead of me

Stop crying and tell me something
Tell me, I am a coward
“Why were you like that to me back then?”
“I’m sorry”

Whatever, I am in no position to say anything
Would I say to you
Do this and do that

Now deeper and deeper, the wound gets deeper
It’s like a broken piece of glass that can’t be turned back
Every day, it’s only my heart that hurts deeper
You were so fragile
And you received my punishment instead of me

I’m sorry, I’m sorry,
I’m sorry ma brother
No matter how much I hide it and cover it up, it doesn’t go away
“Are you calling me a sinner?”
What else can I say

I’m sorry, I’m sorry,
I’m sorry ma sister
No matter how much I hide it and cover it up, it doesn’t go away
So cry
Please dry my eyes

That light, that light shines on my sins
Only the red blood falls, unable to be turned back
Every day, I want to die even more
Let me take the punishment
Grant me absolution from my sins
Please
tbh when i first heart sugas „the last“ it gave me crazy chills, i still get sad whenever i hear that song cause this lyrics are so deep and dark.. i thought about this „old me is dead“ thing a lot (actually in another translation it said „i killed him“ so this made me even more worried), i still don’t know how to interpret this.
 





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#42
Yes hopefully the poster who's biased towards blaming them for every possible thing sticks to the other thread so the same issues don't happen in here.

Apparently the glitch thing was a Youtube bug? I don't think so though. Issues were happening on Vlive and their website too so Youtube can't be responsible for the others lol
Yeah but bts have been putting glitches in so many other things like there VCR's at concerts videos they just recently did this to the prologue:
jins scene by the water has been cut where he looks at a picture that RM took of him and suga but at the end jin looks at the picture and suga wasn't in it. and the music at the end goes all distorted:

 





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I looked up the meaning of the 'peace' sign called 'V'. coincidence that they have a member with that name? and THAT member was the fallen angel in BST?
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ofc as with everything lets take it with a grain of salt, since the peace sign has become so common i'm sure we've all done it. It just seems more suspicious when you add it with everything else celebrities do, it is possible they might mean something more when they do it.
 





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tbh when i first heart sugas „the last“ it gave me crazy chills, i still get sad whenever i hear that song cause this lyrics are so deep and dark.. i thought about this „old me is dead“ thing a lot (actually in another translation it said „i killed him“ so this made me even more worried), i still don’t know how to interpret this.
Well, it is said in the occult that demons take over someones body. I don't know if he meant a literal death, or an ego death, maybe he changed? he killed his 'weak' self that he mentions.
 





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tbh when i first heart sugas „the last“ it gave me crazy chills, i still get sad whenever i hear that song cause this lyrics are so deep and dark.. i thought about this „old me is dead“ thing a lot (actually in another translation it said „i killed him“ so this made me even more worried), i still don’t know how to interpret this.
well there is this one line i know its translated slightly different depends on where you look the line suggests that he tried to commit suicide as he said 'i tried to sleep on the toilet floor' there is a flat line sound at (01:15) when he said the doctor asked him a question that theorised to be 'have you tried to commit suicide?' and the answer was yes the beep was their cause they had to censor it cause S.K doesn't like topics like this.
 





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I looked up the meaning of the 'peace' sign called 'V'. coincidence that they have a member with that name? and THAT member was the fallen angel in BST?
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ofc as with everything lets take it with a grain of salt, since the peace sign has become so common i'm sure we've all done it. It just seems more suspicious when you add it to everything else celebrities do, it is possible they might mean something more when they do it.
Yeah V is theorised to playing Satan in the music video who temps jin and some comments under this video are asking if they are Illuminati because of this also he is the one who kills his father in I need u (original version).
 





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Yeah V is theorised to playing Satan in the music video who temps jin and some comments under this video are asking if they are Illuminati because of this also he is the one who kills his father in I need u (original version).
If V was the one tempting Jin it makes more sense in the BST japan video Jin is beating up V.

ALSO note that V is always the one to place the V over his eye the most. It's his signature pose, ofc yoongi and the others do it sometimes too, but he does it many many times. It makes the symbol we all know. The pyramid and the eye.
If the focus is so much on V with these small signs, it makes sense that there's "bigger" things like the sacrifices and the coincidence of his dog's name?
 





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If V was the one tempting Jin it makes more sense in the BST japan video Jin is beating up V.

ALSO note that V is always the one to place the V over his eye the most. It's his signature pose, ofc yoongi and the others do it sometimes too, but he does it many many times. It makes the symbol we all know. The pyramid and the eye.
If the focus is so much on V with these small signs, it makes sense that there's "bigger" things like the sacrifices and the coincidence of his dog's name?
Well his dogs name is a Yeontan so i don't know
 





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It's kind of creepy that they had everything linked from the beginning this video was made a while back so all the new links wont be in it but anyway here it:
 





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The song Pied Piper.

"Follow the sound of the flute, follow this song
It may be a little dangerous but I’m very sweet
I’m here to save you, I’m here to ruin you
You’re the one who called me, see how it’s sweet
Follow the sound of the flute
I’m takin’ over you"


I know we've talked about it before but as I was looking more into occult hand signs I found a video with an 80s song that was really popular and the lyrics were similar.

the stairway to heaven lyrics:

"And it's whispered that soon, If we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn
For those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter

Your head is humming and it won't go
In case you don't know
The piper's calling you to join him
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow
And did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind"

Someone said this about the lyrics:

"So why the Pied Piper? I don’t think it’s about the original context of the Piper, a magical force who takes all the young from the village that cheated him. Instead, I think the Piper is all about a bill that comes due when you lust for something. Everything comes at a cost. The laughing echos in the forest are the other children who have been taken in the past."

My interpretation is.. there's a price to pay when we make these musicians "idols", and also in the song they talk about how we watch everything they put out, how we're obsessed with them, how we have to many pictures of them on our phones.. there's the lusting or wanting of something/someone.
 





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#54
The song Pied Piper.

"Follow the sound of the flute, follow this song
It may be a little dangerous but I’m very sweet
I’m here to save you, I’m here to ruin you
You’re the one who called me, see how it’s sweet
Follow the sound of the flute
I’m takin’ over you"


I know we've talked about it before but as I was looking more into occult hand signs I found a video with an 80s song that was really popular and the lyrics were similar.

the stairway to heaven lyrics:

"And it's whispered that soon, If we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn
For those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter

Your head is humming and it won't go
In case you don't know
The piper's calling you to join him
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow
And did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind"

Someone said this about the lyrics:

"So why the Pied Piper? I don’t think it’s about the original context of the Piper, a magical force who takes all the young from the village that cheated him. Instead, I think the Piper is all about a bill that comes due when you lust for something. Everything comes at a cost. The laughing echos in the forest are the other children who have been taken in the past."

My interpretation is.. there's a price to pay when we make these musicians "idols", and also in the song they talk about how we watch everything they put out, how we're obsessed with them, how we have to many pictures of them on our phones.. there's the lusting or wanting of something/someone.
Yeah they say that our parents hate them cause we watch them so much but when RM says stop and analysis the picture later he is saying we should stop focusing on them and focus on ourselves first and our studies that's why most armys use this a motivational studying song. its they way u interpret it think its a way they are telling us not to spend to much time on them like what most armys say too.
 





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Jhope's hands. Doing the V sign of the 'pan' god, one hand up and one down.
It's a satanic god, but more specifically he's the god of androgyny and having sex with both genders (pansexual). Seems fitting with the whole kpop look tbh, and with what they've said of not caring about gender, well Yoongi said that more specifically, and hope's bisexual flag colors in his video.


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The X that Yoongi makes in a few photos. The X with his arms + the horns or in the last one the sign of pan.

The X could mean: "crossing the hands over the chest, which says that the initiate will be penalized with death if they ever reveal the secrets"

The horns mean: a sign of recognition in occult circles. When pointed at someone it is meant to place a curse.

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I find this last one interesting:
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Three different symbols at once.
Jungkook: prayer hands
Yoongi with the horns, choking the one with the prayer hands, which I think is interesting..
And Tae (V) pointing up which I've learned is also a satanic sign


Here are the websites where I researched the meaning of this body language, symbols:
https://thetalkingpot.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/satanic-hand-signs/
https://illuminatiwatcher.com/decoding-illuminati-symbolism-mark-beast-x/


As with everything I've posted, Take everything with a grain of salt. I love bts, but I also like being aware and researching there "coinsidences" and signs. Only BTS themselves know what they mean.
 





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It's kind of creepy that they had everything linked from the beginning this video was made a while back so all the new links wont be in it but anyway here it:
Number 9, where V is "different from the others" that's really a big theme in all they do. It made me remember that even predebut, they hid V, and kept him as a secret member, not showing him until debut. He wasn't part of the predebut vlogs like the others.
 





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#57
The song Pied Piper.

"Follow the sound of the flute, follow this song
It may be a little dangerous but I’m very sweet
I’m here to save you, I’m here to ruin you
You’re the one who called me, see how it’s sweet
Follow the sound of the flute
I’m takin’ over you"


I know we've talked about it before but as I was looking more into occult hand signs I found a video with an 80s song that was really popular and the lyrics were similar.

the stairway to heaven lyrics:

"And it's whispered that soon, If we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn
For those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter

Your head is humming and it won't go
In case you don't know
The piper's calling you to join him
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow
And did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind"

Someone said this about the lyrics:

"So why the Pied Piper? I don’t think it’s about the original context of the Piper, a magical force who takes all the young from the village that cheated him. Instead, I think the Piper is all about a bill that comes due when you lust for something. Everything comes at a cost. The laughing echos in the forest are the other children who have been taken in the past."

My interpretation is.. there's a price to pay when we make these musicians "idols", and also in the song they talk about how we watch everything they put out, how we're obsessed with them, how we have to many pictures of them on our phones.. there's the lusting or wanting of something/someone.
Yeah that song is disturbing. Many people find it cute, but the background of what inspired it is sinister af. There's nothing sweet about a possessive and obsessive "love" that will destroy you.
 





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#58
I looked up the meaning of the 'peace' sign called 'V'. coincidence that they have a member with that name? and THAT member was the fallen angel in BST?
View attachment 5794
View attachment 5795

ofc as with everything lets take it with a grain of salt, since the peace sign has become so common i'm sure we've all done it. It just seems more suspicious when you add it with everything else celebrities do, it is possible they might mean something more when they do it.
Very good observation.
Jhope's hands. Doing the V sign of the 'pan' god, one hand up and one down.
It's a satanic god, but more specifically he's the god of androgyny and having sex with both genders (pansexual). Seems fitting with the whole kpop look tbh, and with what they've said of not caring about gender, well Yoongi said that more specifically, and hope's bisexual flag colors in his video.


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The X that Yoongi makes in a few photos. The X with his arms + the horns or in the last one the sign of pan.

The X could mean: "crossing the hands over the chest, which says that the initiate will be penalized with death if they ever reveal the secrets"

The horns mean: a sign of recognition in occult circles. When pointed at someone it is meant to place a curse.

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I find this last one interesting:
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Three different symbols at once.
Jungkook: prayer hands
Yoongi with the horns, choking the one with the prayer hands, which I think is interesting..
And Tae (V) pointing up which I've learned is also a satanic sign


Here are the websites where I researched the meaning of this body language, symbols:
https://thetalkingpot.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/satanic-hand-signs/
https://illuminatiwatcher.com/decoding-illuminati-symbolism-mark-beast-x/


As with everything I've posted, Take everything with a grain of salt. I love bts, but I also like being aware and researching there "coinsidences" and signs. Only BTS themselves know what they mean.
The last image really bothers me.Are they mocking Christianity again? (Or other religions too)
If V was the one tempting Jin it makes more sense in the BST japan video Jin is beating up V.

ALSO note that V is always the one to place the V over his eye the most. It's his signature pose, ofc yoongi and the others do it sometimes too, but he does it many many times. It makes the symbol we all know. The pyramid and the eye.
If the focus is so much on V with these small signs, it makes sense that there's "bigger" things like the sacrifices and the coincidence of his dog's name?
He seems like he has to do it everytime he looks to the camera. Disturbing. ...