“Read this Next” - The Return of the gods

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*I have edited this introduction as the topic is far more important than I initially thought…

When I first came to this site, the section I carefully worked through was this one

Read this First


Very interesting information, but what I couldn’t reconcile was the fact that the breadth and force of the changes in society as promoted through numerous channels did not appear to be the work of humans alone.

A verse from the Bible kept coming back to me:

Ephesians 6:12 - King James Version


12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

That had been playing over in my mind for a few years, and a week ago I decided to listen to the book “The Return of the gods” by Jonathan Cahn. I would venture to say that if someone truly wanted to understand “what’s going on”, this might be a great place to start.


Is it possible that behind what is taking place in America and the world lies a mystery that goes back to the gods of the ancient world…and that they now have returned?

The Return of the Gods is the most explosive book Jonathan Cahn has ever written. It is so explosive and so revealing that no description here could do it justice. Jonathan Cahn is known for revealing the stunning mysteries, many from ancient times, that lie behind and are playing out in the events of our times. But with The Return of the Gods, Cahn takes this to an entirely new level and dimension.

The Return of the Gods, Cahn takes the reader on a journey from an ancient parable, the ancient inscriptions in Sumer, Assyria, and Babylonia that become the puzzle pieces behind what is taking place in our world to this day, specifically in America.
Is it possible that what we in the modern world take as nothing more than ancient mythology could actually possess a reality beyond our fathoming?

Who is the Possessor? The Enchanter? The Destroyer? And the Sorceress?

Could a sign that has appeared all over America and the world be linked to the gods of Mesopotamia? And if so, what does it actually mean?

Could the gods have returned to New York City and an ancient mythology played out on the streets in real time?

Is it possible that the gods lie behind everything from what appears on our computer monitors, our televisions and movie screens; to the lessons given in our classrooms; to the breakdown of the family; to wokism; to the occult; to our addictions; to the Supreme Court; to cancel culture; to children’s cartoons; to every force and factor that has transformed the parameters of gender; to that which appears in our stores, on our T-shirts, and on our coffee mugs—to that which is, at this very moment, transforming America and much of the world? Is it possible that behind all these things are ancient mysteries that go back to the Middle East and ancient Mesopotamia? This and so much more, most of which we can’t even reveal in this description, will be uncovered.”

I’m posting this up because the above writer seems to have hit the nail on the head when it comes to understanding the spiritual forces at work in the world, especially in the post-Christian west.
 
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They are just symbols. And they are represent real personalities of the past with special abulities.
It’s an interesting one…

Were theses “gods” expressions of the sociology of creating deities in their own image or were they rebellious, undying beings occupying these traditions and coming back, just as the evil spirits did when they led the house in the parable…

Matthew 12 nkjv

An Unclean Spirit Returns

43 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. 44 Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation.”

The west has become a culture that rejected its Biblical foundations, the building left empty and swept. People have forgotten the tyranny and bondage of the “old gods” and are now uniquely vulnerable to the full force of ancient deception.

On the other hand, just as through the paganism of the late 60’s, we have a generation of people who have never understood the Gospel, and many are hearing it for the first time.

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1) in none of the bible prophecies does it say these specific entities in connection to an eschatological beast or mystery babylon system.
2) 'the world was led astray by the wine of her adulteries'

looks to me like this pretend 'messianic jew for jesus' is doing the same thing amir tsafati does, peddle bs and misdirect gullible xtians into accepting utter nonsense...

the wine of her adulteries..
-the music industry, satanic music
-hollywood
-tv
-the news/media
-the fashion industry
-pornography

it isnt fucking moloch, baal and ashteroth producing it, it's one race of people...the lactose intolerant race.
 
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I see no evil for I am blind, I hear no evil for I am deaf.


these vile abominations are actually attempting to program the masses into summoning demons for them, by the power of collective belief and thought.
since all these entities are astral/mental in nature (as opposed to causal/spiritual), they are spects of the mind and collective mind and thus subject to the power of creative imagination. They like to control your thoughts and plant the seeds of evil in your mind...but it cant penetrate the soil of your heart unless emotion in evolved, so they use religion to do it.

look at the contrast

Titus 1
10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”[c] 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. 16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.

that's why Paul the apostle is my boy. I honestly love him, he touched on so so so so many truths...but the ave xtian just cant understand.
 

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…that's why Paul the apostle is my boy. I honestly love him, he touched on so so so so many truths...but the ave xtian just cant understand.
What do you make of this one by Paul?
Ephesians 6:12 - King James Version


12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 
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'pay no attention to jewish myths' eg the rabbinic tradition of jewish myths is full of demonic folklore....there's a clear intent in this.

these are not real beings, they are artificial thoughtforms given power through creative imagination, rituals and mass programming.

you can imagine a giant sword that kills these entities and it will become a reality in the astral.
Now about what Jesus said about unclean spirits..

the way that works is, if you try to eliminate 'demons' from your inner world, they will leave you...only to inhabit other people and get to you that way.
as long as your mind is focused on 'demons', you just cant escape. they will dominate your experience.
Jesus told this to pharisees for a reason, it connects with the rabbinic tradition full of demonic folklore and hence 'pay no attention to jewish myths'.
 

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'pay no attention to jewish myths' eg the rabbinic tradition of jewish myths is full of demonic folklore....there's a clear intent in this.

these are not real beings, they are artificial thoughtforms given power through creative imagination, rituals and mass programming.

you can imagine a giant sword that kills these entities and it will become a reality in the astral.
Now about what Jesus said about unclean spirits..

the way that works is, if you try to eliminate 'demons' from your inner world, they will leave you...only to inhabit other people and get to you that way.
as long as your mind is focused on 'demons', you just cant escape. they will dominate your experience.
Jesus told this to pharisees for a reason, it connects with the rabbinic tradition full of demonic folklore and hence 'pay no attention to jewish myths'.
So you don’t believe “powers and principalities” exist (or will one day face God’s judgement?)

Would you say that the “dark trinity“ of the ancient Canaanite gods were simply expressions of a depraved culture, and that, rather like the slenderman modern mythos, they were only given existence through the belief of their followers?

The question I am pondering, to which I don’t have an answer (I could objectively prove) right now is whether the imaginations of peoples hearts are directed towards the worship of these false “gods” by the spiritual entities behind the deities or whether they are empty idols. I could make a biblical case for both, and perhaps both possibilities have truth in them?
 
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What do you make of this one by Paul?
Ephesians 6:12 - King James Version


12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
since it's about control of your creative imagination, Paul gave that power over to God via faith..and that's the point. Faith itself is an extention of our creative imagination. There's plenty i could quote from the Quran and hadith on this topic but for you guys i prefer to quote the bible.

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. 19 Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.


the astral plane was also called 'alam al mithal' by sufis.

Alam al-Mithal roughly translates from Arabic as "the world of similitudes", also called Alam al-Khayal, "the world of the imagination." This world, which is an intermediate between God and the manifest world, and is considered by certain veins of Islamic philosophers to be as phenomenologically real as the world we inhabit through our five physical senses.

this world is inbetween the physical and the spirit world...
Paul was talking about the battle against rulers/authorities and higher dark spiritual forces...eg those who seek to manipulate us through the world of imagination.

i mean think about it...'DA DEMON IN YO COMPUTA CHIP'
wtf man?

pay no attention to this shit.
btw alam al mithal is collective/shared and so whatever you put in it, also affects me. go into it and you see all these gremlins..and that myth comes from the world war era gremlin myth

These spirits of the ether owe their existence to the fertile imaginations of a British Royal Airforce crew of Bomber Command stationed on the Northwest Frontier of India, who required an entity to blame for inexplicable problems with their aircraft. The name Gremlin is reported to have been coined from an amalgam of the title of the only book in the Officer’s Mess-Grimm’s Fairy Tales-and the only beer available-Fremlin’s (Rose, 1943, p132).
 

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since it's about control of your creative imagination, Paul gave that power over to God via faith..and that's the point. Faith itself is an extention of our creative imagination. There's plenty i could quote from the Quran and hadith on this topic but for you guys i prefer to quote the bible.

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. 19 Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.



the astral plane was also called 'alam al mithal' by sufis.

Alam al-Mithal roughly translates from Arabic as "the world of similitudes", also called Alam al-Khayal, "the world of the imagination." This world, which is an intermediate between God and the manifest world, and is considered by certain veins of Islamic philosophers to be as phenomenologically real as the world we inhabit through our five physical senses.

this world is inbetween the physical and the spirit world...
Paul was talking about the battle against rulers/authorities and higher dark spiritual forces...eg those who seek to manipulate us through the world of imagination.

i mean think about it...'DA DEMON IN YO COMPUTA CHIP'
wtf man?

pay no attention to this shit.
btw alam al mithal is collective/shared and so whatever you put in it, also affects me. go into it and you see all these gremlins..and that myth comes from the world war era gremlin myth

These spirits of the ether owe their existence to the fertile imaginations of a British Royal Airforce crew of Bomber Command stationed on the Northwest Frontier of India, who required an entity to blame for inexplicable problems with their aircraft. The name Gremlin is reported to have been coined from an amalgam of the title of the only book in the Officer’s Mess-Grimm’s Fairy Tales-and the only beer available-Fremlin’s (Rose, 1943, p132).
Interestingly I’m about halfway through listening to “The Return of the gods” on audiobook and the question that Jonathan Cahn puts out there is whether or not these “gods” are expressions of imagination, symptoms of the rebellious human heart and inherent religiosity, or something more undying and sinister.

Either way, the nature of these entities usher in an evil force into society, and perhaps one that whether Sufi Muslim or Christian, we might both agree to stand against?
 

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1) in none of the bible prophecies does it say these specific entities in connection to an eschatological beast or mystery babylon system.
2) 'the world was led astray by the wine of her adulteries'

looks to me like this pretend 'messianic jew for jesus' is doing the same thing amir tsafati does, peddle bs and misdirect gullible xtians into accepting utter nonsense...

the wine of her adulteries..
-the music industry, satanic music
-hollywood
-tv
-the news/media
-the fashion industry
-pornography

it isnt fucking moloch, baal and ashteroth producing it, it's one race of people...the lactose intolerant race.
It's interesting... I have friends on this site who do not hold the same views I do.

I would venture about three four of them may even be hostile toward what you call this "pretend messianic jew for jesus"-- but when they object, they are good enough to actually bring something to the table to support their opinions.

Intellectual laziness is the stuff of Trolls-- and it's boring.

The wealth of information available to us all should rule out the need for finger-pointing, and this pedestrian, emotional nonsense-- especially from someone who (historically) has had the ability the comment thoughtfully and (dare I say) intelligently.

...​
 

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since it's about control of your creative imagination, Paul gave that power over to God via faith..and that's the point. Faith itself is an extention of our creative imagination. There's plenty i could quote from the Quran and hadith on this topic but for you guys i prefer to quote the bible.

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. 19 Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should.



the astral plane was also called 'alam al mithal' by sufis.

Alam al-Mithal roughly translates from Arabic as "the world of similitudes", also called Alam al-Khayal, "the world of the imagination." This world, which is an intermediate between God and the manifest world, and is considered by certain veins of Islamic philosophers to be as phenomenologically real as the world we inhabit through our five physical senses.

this world is inbetween the physical and the spirit world...
Paul was talking about the battle against rulers/authorities and higher dark spiritual forces...eg those who seek to manipulate us through the world of imagination.

i mean think about it...'DA DEMON IN YO COMPUTA CHIP'
wtf man?

pay no attention to this shit.
btw alam al mithal is collective/shared and so whatever you put in it, also affects me. go into it and you see all these gremlins..and that myth comes from the world war era gremlin myth

These spirits of the ether owe their existence to the fertile imaginations of a British Royal Airforce crew of Bomber Command stationed on the Northwest Frontier of India, who required an entity to blame for inexplicable problems with their aircraft. The name Gremlin is reported to have been coined from an amalgam of the title of the only book in the Officer’s Mess-Grimm’s Fairy Tales-and the only beer available-Fremlin’s (Rose, 1943, p132).
Much better.

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It's interesting... I have friends on this site who do not hold the same views I do.

I would venture about three four of them may even be hostile toward what you call this "pretend messianic jew for jesus"-- but when they object, they are good enough to actually bring something to the table to support their opinions.

Intellectual laziness is the stuff of Trolls-- and it's boring.

The wealth of information available to us all should rule out the need for finger-pointing, and this pedestrian, emotional nonsense-- especially from someone who (historically) has had the ability the comment thoughtfully and (dare I say) intelligently.

...​
you have to understand my post history and Red's post history and what is discussed between us over time.
 
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