Women Vs Male Birth control

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Hi Guys I came across this post that was posted by someone I know.Its states that contraception is used by the wrong gender and also some feel women are being subjected to oppression one way or the other.

I wanted to know your thoughts on this statement.Please take a look and apologies if this is posted in the wrong group.
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The first part sounds mathematically accurate. I didn't check the math, 30 days/31 days/Februrary. Whatever, close enough. The second part is flawed as it is women that will benefit the most from preventing an unwanted pregnancy, therefore being the most likely consumer. Of course the BC industry will focus on them. Just a thought.
 






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Lurker pretty much said it.

Men don't get pregnant. It's women that have the majority of reproductive rights within the West and therefore they're going to have to also, bear the burden of things like birth control.
 






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I don't see this switching out.
Men can't have kids.
Biological men, that is.
It may be unfair that women have to take BC to ward off pregnancy but aside from sterilization, that's the only option.

ETA:
Are man hating women, just secretly wishing they were men?
(Not directed at you OP, just curious)

ETA #2: I guess we could just sterilize ALL men, then the pesky pregnancy "problem"= solved.

LOL!

Cabal would be so happy with that, notion...

(JOKING, of course!)
 






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Hi Guys I came across this post that was posted by someone I know.Its states that contraception is used by the wrong gender and also some feel women are being subjected to oppression one way or the other.

I wanted to know your thoughts on this statement.Please take a look and apologies if this is posted in the wrong group.
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I have a lot of thoughts about this topic but it's not going to be palatable to a crowd like vc bc any feminist-related issue is seen as an attack on men (masculinity is too fragile). The responses on this thread are quite sad really.
 






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this is what makes me laugh, the majority are putting the buck on women when it comes to birth control. however how do these people feel if the bith control fails? are you ok with paying for the child.
Also male birth control like condoms do not effect mens health, the pill, IUD and patch pump women full of chemicals, some of which have terrible side effects.
Another point men speak of being trapped by pregnancies, so instead of expecting women to take all the responsibility why not do it yourself then your less likely to be trapped by a pregnancy? you cant cry about being trapped into paying child support, her having abortions you dont want, or trapped in relationships, if you take responsibility for your own body fluids

to me the comments on here are a bunch of men not wanting to take any responsibility.
 






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I know it's embarassing. Most of them are probably married with kids but are displaying the mentality of high-schoolers. It takes two to make a child but the onus is solely on women, go figure.
That's because women hold all the reproductive rights. Men have none. Men are forced into whatever decision the woman decides to make. This isn't rocket science.
 






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this is what makes me laugh, the majority are putting the buck on women when it comes to birth control. however how do these people feel if the bith control fails? are you ok with paying for the child.
Also male birth control like condoms do not effect mens health, the pill, IUD and patch pump women full of chemicals, some of which have terrible side effects.
Another point men speak of being trapped by pregnancies, so instead of expecting women to take all the responsibility why not do it yourself then your less likely to be trapped by a pregnancy? you cant cry about being trapped into paying child support, her having abortions you dont want, or trapped in relationships, if you take responsibility for your own body fluids

to me the comments on here are a bunch of men not wanting to take any responsibility.
It doesn't matter what the man wants. Women hold all the reproductive rights. Whatever the woman decides to do the man has to comply. With all those rights come responsibilities. Now if you don't want some of those responsibilities you're going to have to give up some of your reproductive rights and let the man have a say in it as well. If not than too bad. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
 






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Hahaha the best missed fact: men cannot bear children.
They do not have the biological ability to create and carry life, inside their bodies.
Whether it's fair or not, is pointless.
As chauvinistic and misogynistic as it seems that men don't have to use BC, the fact remains that they aren't the sex burdened by pregnancy.
Pregnancy is a beautiful and miraculous thing in itself, which should be honored and valued.
Society deems it as a necessary evil in order to generate new life (for now, until they start using pods or something-yikes!).
Curious if any of the female posters are mothers?
Easy to speculate the reproductive responsibilities, from the perspective of a childless woman....(of course you are entitled to your opinion)..

ETA: for a woman who doesn't want to risk pregnancy, either abstain from sex, or use/enforce your partner to use prophylactics.

Financially though, men should always be "on the hook" if the kid is theirs. Whether they wanted it, or not.

Finally adding, not that I agree with it morally, but if a woman doesn't want to have a child, there's always plan b/other.

And men can have vascetomies, which are easier to reverse.

Make your dude get a vasectomy if you don't want to risk pregnancy.

Casual sex-ers, enter at your own risk. (Casual sex is risky, as it is (STDs, r*pe, murder). If pregnancy is the consequence of that, and you aren't willing to accept that as one of the potential risks, abstain from sex.

As I've stated before in other threads, a woman has MORE power NOT having sex.
 






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Yeah.
Everyone knows sex can lead to pregnancy-- this is not a mystery. You kind of have a responsibility to yourself, to prevent that from happening, if you aren't ready for it-- man or woman. Blaming someone else, when you have the power to control the situation yourself, is irresponsible and childish. Js
 






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That's because women hold all the reproductive rights. Men have none. Men are forced into whatever decision the woman decides to make. This isn't rocket science.
the difference is women are the ones who cannot walk away, women are the ones who must face a multitude of injuries, illnesses and possible death, discomfort, lose of earnings, and permanent damage, a man might want to keep the pregnancy but he is not the one who goes through the process. and the current law structure exists because just over 100 years ago women were not even people, by law they were not people, they were mens property, the law was changed to include women, giving women rights. but the main point is women get the final say because their bodies are the ones who create, feed and expel the fetus.

also as i said why would men not want to be in control of their own contraceptives, if what you say is true, wear a condom, fund a male pill, you act like a victim so take back control, dont want to be a father and pay for a child then use contraceptives, spermacides, condoms and make sure she uses hers.
saying ''well women have all the reproductive control'' just sounds like victimhood and an excuse not to be mature and responsible.

Also a condom is easy to put on and use, it causes no side effects, damage or mental changes, womens contraceptives do, so why dont men grow up, stop playing the victim and wrap it before they tap it
 






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the difference is women are the ones who cannot walk away, women are the ones who must face a multitude of injuries, illnesses and possible death, discomfort, lose of earnings, and permanent damage, a man might want to keep the pregnancy but he is not the one who goes through the process. and the current law structure exists because just over 100 years ago women were not even people, by law they were not people, they were mens property, the law was changed to include women, giving women rights. but the main point is women get the final say because their bodies are the ones who create, feed and expel the fetus.

also as i said why would men not want to be in control of their own contraceptives, if what you say is true, wear a condom, fund a male pill, you act like a victim so take back control, dont want to be a father and pay for a child then use contraceptives, spermacides, condoms and make sure she uses hers.
saying ''well women have all the reproductive control'' just sounds like victimhood and an excuse not to be mature and responsible.

Also a condom is easy to put on and use, it causes no side effects, damage or mental changes, womens contraceptives do, so why dont men grow up, stop playing the victim and wrap it before they tap it
First we can't fight biology so arguing about the process and discomfort is an emotional plea and a fallacy.

Second, again, women have all the reproductive rights. You can literally and legally force the man into any decision you, as the woman, decide through court order. Now if you're not happy than perhaps it's time you women start a movement and have some of those reproductive decisions passed on and or shared with the man of the child and the responsibilities that come with the whole process. However, if you want to keep all your reproductive rights but also, want the man to be on the hook for the responsibilities that come with those rights than you're out of luck. No man with a single brain cell would ever accept that and they shouldn't.

Now tell us are you willing to let the man of the potential child have a say in the whole process or are you going to go the way of "my body my decision"?
 






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i love men who pass the buck and responsibility. for once in your lives take responsibility, it just comes across as childish and excuses
That's easy to say when you have all the reproductive rights and family court being tipped in the woman's favour. Share the decisions and than so will the responsibilities.
 






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