Will you be doing business with people that have replaced humans with robots?

Glad 2 know

Veteran
Joined
Nov 30, 2017
Messages
730
I saw that a restaurant will be employing the services of "flippy" the burger flipping robot. I will NOT, be going there because it will not be supporting the nonsense of replacing humans with robots. Some people will blindly be doing so because it's "cool" and "futuristic" without thinking that it's going to affect people's chances of getting jobs.
 

DesertRose

Superstar
Joined
May 20, 2017
Messages
7,596
I saw that a restaurant will be employing the services of "flippy" the burger flipping robot. I will NOT, be going there because it will not be supporting the nonsense of replacing humans with robots. Some people will blindly be doing so because it's "cool" and "futuristic" without thinking that it's going to affect people's chances of getting jobs.
Agreed.
That's horrible, so cold.
Half the reason to go places is because of the warm service.
 

rainerann

Star
Joined
Mar 18, 2017
Messages
4,550
I think it depends on the job description. For some jobs, I don’t think automation is a bad thing even if it changes the job description and requires gaining a new skill set.

However, flipping burgers? I don’t know. That just seems like a new way to cheat employees that work in places like that. I already refuse to eat at most of those places because of the quality and the way they treat the employees working there. So something like this wouldn’t really affect me anyway.
 

elsbet

Superstar
Joined
Jun 4, 2017
Messages
5,122
I think it depends on the job description. For some jobs, I don’t think automation is a bad thing even if it changes the job description and requires gaining a new skill set.

However, flipping burgers? I don’t know. That just seems like a new way to cheat employees that work in places like that. I already refuse to eat at most of those places because of the quality and the way they treat the employees working there. So something like this wouldn’t really affect me anyway.
I won't buy food from burger joints-- it's gross. :D. BUT admittedly, there are a couple that have really good coffee.. and alas, I am a patron in that respect. However, I would not be inclined to patronize a fully automated changeover.

If it was automated from the beginning, sort of as a novelty-- idk. Food for thought, isn't it?
 

Aero

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
5,910
I think that technically we are paying for robotics anyway. And the savings don't get passed onto the consumers. People have to buy into all that stuff about the economy being good, but it's not. Fundamentally it's not healthy in any way.

If it's already happening than it will keep happening. So that 5 dollar big mac will still be 5 dollars even with an all robot work force. Shit they may even be able to charge more for the big mac. You don't need an economics degree to understand a robot is cheaper to maintain than a paid employee. The savings on health care alone would be enormous.

More robots might just lead to more human jobs. But there's nothing to suggest businesses are ever going to invest in people again. Corporate America is already more comfortable investing in property, lottery and fucking magic. Give them robots and they might just destroy themselves for us.
 

Vytas

Star
Joined
Jun 29, 2017
Messages
1,904
I think in future humans will get only those jobs where are randomness factor. Like if you are IT specialist in your twenties you are screwed...
 

Glad 2 know

Veteran
Joined
Nov 30, 2017
Messages
730
Good point, in some areas it's alright to have robot help but then just remember that we should keep integrity to our kind, after all robots don't need to provide for themselves or a family.
 

mecca

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
7,122
Instead of worrying that low wage jobs like burger flippers and cashiers will be replaced by robots, why don't we focus on educating our population and providing high wage and rewarding jobs for them so they don't even have to work a minimum wage job?
 

Mr.Grieves

Veteran
Joined
Mar 15, 2017
Messages
680
I'm quite alright with robots replacing humans where manual, menial labor is concerned on the condition that the employment imperative dies.

As more and more industries phase out manual labor in favor of automation less and less jobs will be available, while the population- particularly the population of those who lack the skills/resources to work outside of manual labor- is only going to continue to grow at its current exponential rate. It's no longer realistic to expect that there's a job out there for every person willing to work, and no longer fair to expect everyone who lives to work for that living. Homelessness and extreme poverty will increasingly be the result of this trend here in the West, and it's completely unavoidable unless we start considering such ideas as a 'Living Wage', as in a modest but livable wage guaranteed to every citizen whether they work or not.
A highly socialist notion I know, and an incredibly offensive idea to those obsessed with their own boot-straps, but no anecdote of personal responsibility and success will put a dent in this trend, and in all truth and honesty it's not as though we can't afford it.
 

DesertRose

Superstar
Joined
May 20, 2017
Messages
7,596
A highly socialist notion I know, and an incredibly offensive idea to those obsessed with their own boot-straps, but no anecdote of personal responsibility and success will put a dent in this trend, and in all truth and honesty it's not as though we can't afford it.
What about checking unfair monopolies/competition and unlawful business practices so that small businesses can get a chance?
Perhaps we can tax those who are involved with unfair monopolies and get the basic living wage from them.:)
 

DesertRose

Superstar
Joined
May 20, 2017
Messages
7,596
I'm quite alright with robots replacing humans where manual, menial labor is concerned on the condition that the employment imperative dies.
I am not sure I am okay with that....
I dislike self checkouts...... I wanna deal with people.
 

The Zone

Star
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
3,165
Odd how the lowest waged employees get the boot. Anyhow, I have seen some nasty humans making burgers, so in that sense give me the bot. But overall, I am not a robot fan and would likely balk at them a bit, but would probably begrudgingly fall in line and they are counting on that. They will say it keeps prices down and average joe will eat that up. I can hear someone now saying they are more efficient. But I can see issues, like glitches which are far worse at first than a human error.

A few notes is that robots cost more up front. Humans will still likely have to clean them and do maintenance upkeep. Anybody who thinks bots long term will be a good thing is not looking at all the people around them. But a plague or two will take care of that. We are not far away from robot prostitutes and as some have mentioned war machines. In a sense, drones are low end robots and they will become scary sophisticated very soon.
 

The Zone

Star
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
3,165
I am not sure I am okay with that....
I dislike self checkouts...... I wanna deal with people.
As an introvert, I love them.
But all of the self check outs now have facial recognition, immediately log your discount card and what you purchased, and sold your data and the time of the purchase to advertisers who will now invade your privacy and market you something when you get home and log on to the computer. Once they have your face in the data banks, your every step will be monitored to build a master data base on your activities and habits. Thank you for shopping with us!
 

mecca

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
7,122
But all of the self check outs now have facial recognition, immediately log your discount card and what you purchased, and sold your data and the time of the purchase to advertisers who will now invade your privacy and market you something when you get home and log on to the computer. Once they have your face in the data banks, your every step will be monitored to build a master data base on your activities and habits. Thank you for shopping with us!
They do that with regular checkout too though. And people are always being recorded, it's sad.
 

DesertRose

Superstar
Joined
May 20, 2017
Messages
7,596
As an introvert, I love them.
Me too about being an introvert but talking with the cashier is the best interaction because it is short....( hope that makes better sense).
 
Last edited:

Vytas

Star
Joined
Jun 29, 2017
Messages
1,904
I love checkouts for another reason. Cashiers especially in evenings reminds me of zoo animals. Tired, annoyed, unhappy, indifferent. With self check out i don't have to look at them, and they have one customer less to serve...
 

Leviathan

Established
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
183
I use self checkouts if I am getting just a few things. If I were going to buy a lot I'd go through a line with a cashier. It all depends how much you're going to buy I think.

I believe that if they're going to get technology to do everything for us then they'll have to figure out a different system besides capitalism or else people will die (maybe that's what they want). Sure, we'll still need things like doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc., but there can only be so many of those and I'm sure that if they can find a way to replace them eventually, they will. With talk of self driving cars (instead of taxi drivers), drones delivering your packages, burger flipping robots, robotic surgeons, and who knows what else, I think people are definitely in danger. Many physical stores are already closing anyways because of online shopping so there goes those jobs.

I just wish we could freeze technology exactly where it is right now. At this moment in time, humans and technology seem to be coexisting just fine. Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen and I am concerned for the future.
 

mecca

Superstar
Joined
Mar 13, 2017
Messages
7,122
At this moment in time, humans and technology seem to be coexisting just fine. Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen and I am concerned for the future.
Why do you think that technological advancements will harm humanity? If we advance in the correct way it can only be beneficial although the capability of using it for bad is still there.
I believe that if they're going to get technology to do everything for us then they'll have to figure out a different system besides capitalism or else people will die (maybe that's what they want).
That's true because if even more people become unemployed, they won't even have any money to purchase all the things being produced by the robots.
 
Last edited:
Top