Will "Equity" be the new Trojan Horse to bring in the United Socialst States of America?

Red Sky at Morning

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I don't think I'm the only one who will notice!

Please note, the Fox News clip showing Biden quickly dropping the word "equality" in favour of "equity" ha she now been removed from YouTube (after one day!)
 
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There's some irony in quoting Orwell, but being afraid of a "socialist" America (which won't happen, since even the most extreme "left-wing" in American politics like Sanders and AOC are center-left, globally, and aren't even against capitalism).
 

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There's some irony in quoting Orwell, but being afraid of a "socialist" America (which won't happen, since even the most extreme "left-wing" in American politics like Sanders and AOC are center-left, globally, and aren't even against capitalism).
I suspect the "Great Reset" will redefine "capitalism" and move it significantly to the left, under the banner of fairness and environmental responsibility. It might even get the blessing of Pope Francis!!!
 
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There's some irony in quoting Orwell, but being afraid of a "socialist" America (which won't happen, since even the most extreme "left-wing" in American politics like Sanders and AOC are center-left, globally, and aren't even against capitalism).
It amazes me that on this day and age people still push this ridiculous disinformation.

Most of them don't even know what socialism is, they literally could not define it, even though we are in the internet age and Wikipedia or Google is at their fingertips.

Better to just mindlessly listen to propaganda from the Tucker Carlsons and Dennis Pragers of this world.

What a joke.
 

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It amazes me that on this day and age people still push this ridiculous disinformation.

Most of them don't even know what socialism is, they literally could not define it, even though we are in the internet age and Wikipedia or Google is at their fingertips.

Better to just mindlessly listen to propaganda from the Tucker Carlsons and Dennis Pragers of this world.

What a joke.
OK, I defer to your greater wisdom @vancityeagle

How do you define socialism and do you know of any countries where it is working well?
 
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I don't think I'm the only one who will notice!

Wanting to equalize the differences in the world, to find the dialectial material end of history is an idea with marxist roots, and is by definition satanic because it puts the world of the spirit upsidedown, where people are worshipping matter instead of spirit. Wanting to equalize the material world under the guise of false justice is how the totalitarians have been pushing their plans for near 100 years now. Marxism wants this world to become a human anthill with all differences snuffed out,. So yes Red any time you hear someone talk about equity they are propogating the spirit of the anti-Christ, materialism, false justice, the values of matter and the fallen world. It has nothing to do with Christ also known as truth, and is against Christ, Christ and God has no part in that world view, hence it is Satanic.
 
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OK, I defer to your greater wisdom @vancityeagle

How do you define socialism and do you know of any countries where it is working well?
Like I said , Google is your friend. Why don't you check it for yourself and stop letting billionaire financed propaganda tell you how and what to think.

I've posted the definition, numerous times but it does nothing to stop the uninformed to keep pushing their disinfo.
 

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Like I said , Google is your friend. Why don't you check it for yourself and stop letting billionaire financed propaganda tell you how and what to think.

I've posted the definition, numerous times but it does nothing to stop the uninformed to keep pushing their disinfo.
I live in the U.K. and I have encountered various forms of socialism, from the hard left of Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock to the Champagne socialism of Blair and the almost communism we narrowly missed of Corbyn.

I note that you have not engaged with the second part of my question.
 
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I suspect the "Great Reset" will redefine "capitalism" and move it significantly to the left, under the banner of fairness and environmental responsibility. It might even get the blessing of Pope Francis!!!
Oh no. Not the blessing of Pope Francis! Anything but that!

Ignoring that something absolutely needs to be done for equality, since we live in a world were there's more than enough resources to go around... Forgive me if I'm not going to hold your breath that we'll be dragged out of the capitalist dystopia we currently live under and into so socialist one... Especially since when the average person exploits the system, the wealthy capitalist elites bitch a fit. See: The whole Wall Streets Bets issue.

Wanting to equalize the differences in the world, to find the dialectial material end of history is an idea with marxist roots, and is by definition satanic because it puts the world of the spirit upsidedown, where people are worshipping matter instead of spirit.
If admitting that there's a material reality and that the world is unjust is "satanic", it sounds to be that your devil is more moral than your god. But God hates injustice. Sodom, after all, because it's people were greedy and gluttonous, forsaking the poor and needy... So I can't fathom why anyone who claims to be Christian would reject efforts to help the poor. Especially since it was commanded by Christ, in the Gospels.


Wanting to equalize the material world under the guise of false justice is how the totalitarians have been pushing their plans for near 100 years now. Marxism wants this world to become a human anthill with all differences snuffed out,. So yes Red any time you hear someone talk about equity they are propogating the spirit of the anti-Christ, materialism, false justice, the values of matter and the fallen world. It has nothing to do with Christ also known as truth, and is against Christ, Christ and God has no part in that world view, hence it is Satanic.
I'd be more inclined to believe any Christian, who actively seeks to continue to preserve an unjust moral system, is against Christ. He commanded people to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, visit the sick and the imprisoned... And stated that it's very hard for the wealthy to get into heaven. To me, your so called faith sounds a lot more satanic than people wanting to fix a broken system.
 
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f admitting that there's a material reality and that the world is unjust is "satanic"
The world is unjust because it is fallen and we are far from God, not because we havent figured out the perfect way to organize material reality with pure equity yet.
it sounds to be that your devil is more moral than your god. But God hates injustice. Sodom, after all, because it's people were greedy and gluttonous, forsaking the poor and needy...
Alright you don't like the Christianity, congratulations
So I can't fathom why anyone who claims to be Christian would reject efforts to help the poor.
We're not talking about whether or not to help the poor, we're talking about a popular social movement disguised as compassion but is actually selfish
I'd be more inclined to believe any Christian, who actively seeks to continue to preserve an unjust moral system, is against Christ.
Strawman, I didn't mention any system to preserve, I only answered the question posed in the original post
He commanded people to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, visit the sick and the imprisoned... And stated that it's very hard for the wealthy to get into heaven. To me, your so called faith sounds a lot more satanic than people wanting to fix a broken system.
I think you missed the point of my words, either that or you are intentionally arguing against a strawman. Perhaps I didnt explain myself clearly in my first post
 

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Yep, everyone "equal" living in a pod and eating bugs. The WEF wrote articles on how to convince people (i.e. brainwash) to eat insects and drink sewage water. All in the name of "saving the planet" and "addressing inequality."

These Great Reset puppets only care about reducing us to animals. And with transhumanism, we will become subhuman but with the promise of becoming superhuman. Satan loves to seduce us like this.
 

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The elites knew their time was running so they chose a banner that sounds appealing to the masses because after all who doesn't want equity and social justice? Thing is Socialism is constantly redefined by intellectuals who wants to lead people into things they would never accept if it was stated clearly. If people knew wishing for more equity meant destroying well paid jobs from middle classes and instoring universal basic income through mass taxation they would never accept that.
It seems for our elites socialism or ecology it's the same goal as we know they talked a lot about ending the western lifestyle and they used depopulation rhetoric and presented it as a mean to fight climate change.
Soon they'll start to explain that freedom is the result of white supremacy and the climate demands you to give up all freedoms. We just have to look at all the crazy stuff that took place in 2020 to understand that some on the left would applaude that while wearing masks and handcuffs themselves.
 

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The irony of equity and leveling the playing field for everyone when those saying and pushing the agenda (the mega corporate members of WEF) are some of the people who made HALF a TRILLION during the pandemic lockdowns while the average person lost or almost lost everything. What’s that wealth gap going to look like in 2030 I wonder :rolleyes::rolleyes:

The same people expecting that YOU won’t own anything in 2030 while, ofcourse, they own everything else.

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There is a VAST difference between individual socialism, and the worldly institution of organized socialism.

Jesus was the world’s first, best and most famous socialist. However, socialism has to be on an individual-choice basis (free-will), just like talking to God, because, once it becomes an organization, it goes all wrong, just like religion. Everyone should individually help his neighbours, from personal choice.

Once socialism becomes organized into a political party, or a government, it becomes a dictatorship and evil. All human dictators are evil, but the most evil is state dictatorship, with walls to keep people in, forcibly. If they don’t build walls, the place becomes deserted.

Capitalism is also wrong, but it is not as evil as communism, because at least it allows freedom of choice, to be or not to be a capitalist. It teaches the wrong values, because it teaches the values of the world (materialism), instead of the values of heaven (brotherly love and sharing). However, at least it does not force itself upon people, and you are free to opt-out, and/or leave. It is probably the lesser of the evils.

Jesus taught The Way, i.e. “individual socialism”. IF everyone was like Jesus, there would be no need for governments, because everyone would help his neighbours, and soon this planet would be deserted, because everyone would have gone home: “I am The Way - home” (I am how YOU have to be, to go home -- Christ).
 

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Will "Equity" be the new Trojan Horse to bring in the United Socialst States of America?

I don't think I'm the only one who will notice!

From the moment I first read reports about how much the billionaires had made (so far) last year, it became clear to me that were heading into a feudalist system. So I don’t really believe it’s all going to be socialism or communism or whatever. (Talk of socialism or communism is, i think, put out there for people to argue over.) Its back to the Middle Ages…with all the trimmings!
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