Why is religion so anti-LGBTQ

[Daze]

A flat reading of the Bible has had people use the scriptures to do egregious things to people. What else is in there that's fairly common? Affairs, abuse, slavery. That being in there doesn't say anything about God's thoughts on it. But the Bible rarely speaks of age for anyone, let alone the female characters. Child marriage usually occurred between children or young adults. Whenever it was between a kid and a grown ass man. well...maybe take a look at the cultures in which those were common and see if you don't spot anything strange. No one in my family going back four generations married under 19. And nice for ignoring the medical evidence about young kids bodies, or the point about attraction to fertility markers. Are you as a man more attracted to a prepubescent nine year old or a twenty year old with curves?

Like I said, p3do.

I agree with the first part, there's a lot of salaciousness in the Bible. I even argue parts are fabricated. Like, i don't believe Prophet Lot slept with his daughters. I don't believe prophets drank alcohol to begin with to even put him in that situation.

Child marriage usually occurred between children or young adults.

Yes, this is what I am saying and even advocating for. Why are you assuming the worst case scenario? As I explained to Lalas. The entire point of getting married young is to have a permissible outlet for sexual desires for young couples. In the hopes of raising a family.

What is the point of a 7-year-old girl marrying an old man whose life is already half over? As I've said, you put words in my mouth.

No one in my family going back four generations married under 19

Prove it, share your family tree. That link I gave offers a free trial. Show their ages.

Old Christian sects, Amish, Mennonites and so on, all that are disconnected from main stream society, still engage in child marriage today.
Why do you think this is? Who strayed from the Bible? You, or them?

And nice for ignoring the medical evidence

Like I told you, it's not medical evidence, its $cience. You know what this means, don't you?

Fact is prophets, priests, bishops, all of them married young throughout humanity. Why didn't God ever condemn it anywhere in the Bible?
These were the men spreading his word! In fact, God tells Moses in the Bible to take prepubescent girls for himself. Would you like me to source it?

Are you as a man more attracted to a prepubescent nine year old or a twenty year old with curves?

This is what I mean about when i say I'm talking to myself. But you claim I'm ignoring you

I'm done, you and the wife beater can convene and develop another strategy as all you're doing is bringing emotional arguments trying your best to paint me as a p***phile, when anyone who can be bothered to read knows that's not the case.

Peace.

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

I've had one recently tell me she prefers her own daughter come home with a bastard child in her belly, then for her daughter to marry the father before they are 18.

Are you referring to our recent conversation? If so, i would appreciate it if you didn't twist my words around.

What i said several times is that children should be PREVENTED from BOTH fornicating/b3ing exposed to filth (p0rn) and being married as children. It's not an either/or.


Then i said there are worse things than a "bastard child", such as being a sodomite. I don't recall ever saying that underage unwed pregnancy (or the behavior which leads to it) was preferable to underage marriage to a boy of like age.

My point is that the fornication should be PREVENTED, not legitimized through marriage

An unwed pregnancy is less bad than sodomite behavior or identity. Thats what i was talking about. Given the prevalence of that and the normalization of it, seems having all my children not fall for that would be a blessing in of itself.
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Yeah, i would prefer a husband or wife close in age for them. Even if it means financially helping them out since young men are broke.

You talk about agenda's. But can't see you're pushing one satan himself is behind. As a Christian, you should ALWAYS be pro-marriage. But if they are under 18, somehow fornication is preferable. You've said it yourself, your daughter coming home with a bastard child isn't the end of the world, while i see it as being on the path to hellfire as zina (fornication) is the 2nd greatest sin next to shirk (worshiping anything but God)

Yeah a "bastard child" is less bad than them turning out to be sodomites. If that makes me have satanic morals then thats your opinion. I'll always be against children getting married AND fornicating. As a Christian, i believe in self control. It's one of the fruits of the spirit.

Etc...

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

so we see even more lgbt who actively engage in same sex intimacy but advocate against the lgbt “agenda”

Im sorry, but thats pure hypocrisy.

A same sex attracted person who doesn't act on it can absolutely advocate against the agenda. That's very admirable and commendable.

Someone who is giving in to their base desires but fighting agaisnt it is a hypocrite.

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

Reject your own Christian history, reject your own scripture. God knows the truth and I will always call to what he sent down

The Bible is full of child marriage, but with uncomfortable truths...

Peace.

I already debunked this disgusting video in the other thread.

The expression on that man's face as he lies to claim a 3 yr old child married an adult gave was so disturbing. There is NOTHING to smile about in this topic. Pervert.

Ok, i think i found where the claim of her being 3 came from

Notice how he wastes almost 3 minutes repeating the same facts over and over : sarah was 90 when she had Isaac, Sarah was 127 when she died, Isaac was 37 when his mother died.

Ok. Then without any evidence whatsoever he says Rebecca was born when Sarah died. The Bible does not say this!

This site mentions that she was probably between late teens to early 20s, which would have been marriage age back then.

How Old Was Rebekah (Rebecca) When Isaac Married Her?

Read the Biblical account of when Rebekah married Isaac to see what age she was. This post discovers the truth.

godsverse.org

This site mentions how Isaac was not a p3do, and it requires some twisting of scripture to make the claim she was 3

Was Rebekah a Child of Three Years When Isaac Married Her?

How old was Rebekah when married to Isaac? Was she a child of only three years as some claim? Was Isaac a p***phile?

www.simplybible.com

As for the talmud allowing s*x with children, here it is

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[Daze]

Are you referring to our recent conversation? If so, i would appreciate it if you didn't twist my words around.

Why do you think i liked your last post? Because I am tired of arguing with you. Take the last word, I am done with this subject.

I already debunked this disgusting video in the other thread.

The expression on that man's face as he lies to claim a 3 yr old child married an adult gave was so disturbing. There is NOTHING to smile about in this topic. Pervert.

Watch the video, might get a clue why he is smiling

It's ironic, how he's literally quoting from the Bible. But somehow you "debunked" it.


Idk what to do with you Toxic. You completely reject everything that doesn't agree with you. Like Mary being 12 and Joseph being 80. At least Drifter acknowledges it, even if she tries to fudge the ages. With you, its fingers into the ears.

I am done with this. Go find some other ways to entertain yourselves as you advocate for fornication in Jesus's name.
Said it yourself, you'd prefer a bastard grandchild compared to one you'd get if your daughter was under 18 and in wedlock.

I am so done with this. Say what you want, we are both talking to trees on either side, and in the end its a massive waste of time.

Peace.

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

Watch the video, might get a clue why he is smiling.

It's ironic, how he's literally quoting from the Bible. But somehow you "debunked" it.

But he's not. He uses some kind of distraction tactic.

He repeats the same verses over and over, notice that he actually gives chapter and verse.
Then, without giving chapter and verse he announces that Rebecca was born when Sarah died. The Bible never says this. If it did, he would have given chapter and verse.

And, as i've said before, the Bible mentions many horrible things, no need to invent some. But i would NEVER discuss these things with a smile on my face. Absolutely sick.

And the catholics also claim that she's the "queen of heaven " who never died. I reject all catholic fan fiction.

And again, i said i prefer not not have my children engage in sodomy. You're the one that keeps ignoring that part like if it's not a possibility. If my daughter had to be under 18 no matter what, of course marriage to a boy her age is preferable. Thankfully, there are many parental supervision things that i can do to minimize the likelihood of fornication.


The point is not that we don't agree, it's that youre puting words in my mouth.

 

[Daze]

I am done with this Toxic.

It is abundantly clear that people only hear what they want to. I am tired of long back and forth posts and none of it accomplishing a god damn thing.

We have not left square one, and there's well over a dozen posts between me and you. I'm just done with it.

 

[Flarepath]

...You're quite homophobic and I see why people like u make people not follow religion...

We all like friendly gays, it's only the nasty-minded depraved ones like the Sodom/Gomorrah mob who nobody likes..

 

[L3M4]

Im sorry, but thats pure hypocrisy.

A same sex attracted person who doesn't act on it can absolutely advocate against the agenda. That's very admirable and commendable.

Someone who is giving in to their base desires but fighting agaisnt it is a hypocrite.

The issue is that in recent years the agenda isn't anymore about "tolerance/acceptance" in reality that was more like in the 70's & 80's but since half the decade it has quickly turned into a completely different narrative, now it's about exposing children school with Pornographic material or having crossdressed read stories, or having kids TV Channel like Disney & Nickelodeon having same gender parents so I've seen in social media & also in the news how democrat lgbt have turned into conservative republican lgbt even famous transgender Caitlyn Jenner who has surgery to become a "woman" dad of the kardashians & Jenners, who even just a few years ago had a TV reality show about trans now has been advocating against trans in bathroom, sports & such, then we see lesbians in UK also wanting to take the L out out LGBT because the current "community" doesn't represent them, same with many other personalities. So I personally don't think all of them are "hypocrite" as long as they keep their intimate life private & don't go around publicly or doing stuff that goes against what they advocate, I do agree is better & should to completely grow out of the lifestyle

 

[Drifter]

Yes, this is what I am saying and even advocating for. Why are you assuming the worst case scenario? As I explained to Lalas. The entire point of getting married young is to have a permissible outlet for sexual desires for young couples. In the hopes of raising a family.

What is the point of a 7-year-old girl marrying an old man whose life is already half over? As I've said, you put words in my mouth.

Two children cannot take care of a family. Two ADULTS today can barely take care of a family unless one works an extremely good job. You also posted multiple "evidences" of grown men marrying little girls but now act surprised when people accuse you of saying exactly what you're saying lol.

Prove it, share your family tree. That link I gave offers a free trial. Show their ages.

Old Christian sects, Amish, Mennonites and so on, all that are disconnected from main stream society, still engage in child marriage today.
Why do you think this is? Who strayed from the Bible? You, or them?

I don't have to. My last great grandparent only passed two years ago, I know who they were and the ages they got married. Marrying young at least to the 4th generation was considered being married in the late teens.

There are plenty of beliefs of those sects that aren't scriptural so nice try I guess? Irrelevant though.

Like I told you, it's not medical evidence, its $cience. You know what this means, don't you?

You can say this until you're blue in the face but you're running off emotion and not fact. You ignore the high maternal mortality rate of the past (as well as the evidence that the onset of puberty has regressed in recent years) and that the age of marriage was not as young as you try to claim, not everywhere and especially nowhere civilized. Again, why believe science about homosexuality but not early motherhood/pregnancy?

Fact is prophets, priests, bishops, all of them married young throughout humanity. Why didn't God ever condemn it anywhere in the Bible?

Can you provide evidence for this being "all of them" please?

These were the men spreading his word! In fact, God tells Moses in the Bible to take prepubescent girls for himself. Would you like me to source it?

Sure, quote it. Specifically where it says "prepubescent".

This is what I mean about when i say I'm talking to myself. But you claim I'm ignoring you

No answer is an answer, nice.

I'm done, you and the wife beater can convene and develop another strategy as all you're doing is bringing emotional arguments trying your best to paint me as a p***phile, when anyone who can be bothered to read knows that's not the case.

Peace.

Says the guy who misread my first post and INSISTED I was the illiterate one lmfao. Slandering @TempestOfTempo in someone else's reply is a little low, don't you think?

BTW there is a big difference developmentally between a 12 year old and a 15 year old. That's why age gaps between kids matter more than between adults. You're just so eager to try and satiate your own depraved lusts.

 

[irrationalNinja]

You are making accusations like whites do against black. White people have a way of projecting all their filth on black and browns and specifically Arabs are butt of the jokes lmao.

This is hilarious: A racist complaint about “white racism.” Lmao

 

[sugarprincessxox]

Well, this is a first. I wonder how many would agree with this? Imagine, Romeo and Juliet being satire?

Besides, I don't need the example for reference to prove my point.

Here's a couple of Americans from not even a century ago.

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Here's a queen.
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Here's another queen.
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Here ya go a nutty Islam trying to explain how child marriage with older men was normal. Ur religion normalises p***philia. Still all fucked up. Idgaf if its culture.

 

[sugarprincessxox]

We all like friendly gays, it's only the nasty-minded depraved ones like the Sodom/Gomorrah mob who nobody likes..

You're a piece of shit
You've literally said this

Why is religion so anti-LGBTQ

The title alone is so indicative of how far we have strayed from God. ‘Why is religion so anti-LGBT’ More like ‘Why is LGBT so anti religion’ What came first? Religion or the alphabet movement? Are we that ignorant that we ignore the fact that buggery was illegal not so long ago in The UK...

vigilantcitizenforums.com

Not so friendly from a "friendly" Christian, then opposed gays because of a mythological biblical account.

I see why People genuinely hate Christians like how women hate misogynistic men, and how pocs and ethnic minorities hate whites. Because they call perpetuate the suffering for absolute no reason.

 

[Flarepath]

You're a piece of shit
Not so friendly from a "friendly" Christian, then opposed gays because of a mythological biblical account...

You must be mixing me up with somebody else sweetheart, this is what I said-
quote- "We all like friendly gays, it's only the nasty-minded depraved ones like the Sodom/Gomorrah mob who nobody likes."... -unquote

 

[sugarprincessxox]

You must be mixing me up with somebody else sweetheart, this is what I said-
quote- "We all like friendly gays, it's only the nasty-minded depraved ones like the Sodom/Gomorrah mob who nobody likes."... -unquote

Read my fucking comment you depraved piece of shit. You're deplorable, hateful and disgusting. Saying that the "perverts" deserve their outcome. O wonder if ur like this with p***phile priests who put their hands near children. Isee why religious people are so hated, yet they can't comprehend it.

They were just living their lives as gay people and they got attacked, for what? Being gay. Screw u and ur hatred. I hope u meet a gay couple, their presence drives u to the brink of insanity.

 

[Maldarker]

I am done with this Toxic.

It is abundantly clear that people only hear what they want to. I am tired of long back and forth posts and none of it accomplishing a god damn thing.

We have not left square one, and there's well over a dozen posts between me and you. I'm just done with it.

Wow an apostate & now a blasphemer nice to see how far you have fallen.

 

[Flarepath]

..They were just living their lives as gay people and they got attacked, for what?...

For spreading AIDS to the straight population for one thing, and for doing "gay pride" stuff for another..

 

[Maldarker]

PRIDE GOES BEFORE THE FALL!

 

[Flarepath]

Militant gays remind me of that doctor bloke in 'Predators' who says something like "I'm a murderer so I feel at home on this alien planet among the monsters".
Likewise, gays parade together because they feel at home among other gay mobs..

 

[Flarepath]

(to Flarepath)- ...you depraved piece of shit. You're deplorable, hateful and disgusting....I hope u meet a gay couple, their presence drives u to the brink of insanity.

Dunno bout gays but if I met this tranny couple on a dark night I'd certainly run off screaming..-