Why Is Mgtow Growing?

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  1. Hero123

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    I am someone who is considered a "Man going their own way.". Feel free to ask me questions after reading my post.

    I use to believe the reason why so many of the world's problems exist, is because those who are involved in the New World Order. You know, the Elites from all corners of the world. I still do. I've come to believe it's a lot more complicated than that, obviously. The reason why I chose to make my first post about MGTOW, is because there's a whole new perspective that needs to be looked into. This involves the perspective of both men and women, with their biological roles in this life. Do not confuse me with being a misogynist or a woman hater.

    Many believe MGTOW is just a male version of Feminsim. That is not the case. This goes back to the moment women were given rights and privileges within western society. Through all the channels I've watched within the MGTOW community, Turd Flinging Monkey along with Bob Lewis, author of the recently released book "The Feminist Lie; It was never about equality", best narrate and discuss MGTOW, the problems with society, and the destruction of the family unit. As well as the destruction of male and female individuals. With a society that is currently creating masculine females and feminine males, future children are waking up to a ruined society that doesn't understand why things are the way they are among both men and women.

    MGTOW goes into many topics such as:

    Marriage and Divorce
    Relationships ("Relationshits")
    Dating and Online Dating
    Family Court Law
    The Black Community
    Suicide among Men
    Red Pill
    Red Pill Rage
    Blue Pill
    Purple Pill
    Feminism
    MRA
    False r*pe Allegations/ False Domestic Violence
    "r*pe Culture"
    Universities/College Campuses (In relation to false accusations and men suing Universities)
    Women in the workforce
    Women's rights/right to vote
    Decreased Birth Rates
    The Welfare State
    Gynocentrism
    Hypergamy
    Money and Finance
    Gold Diggers
    Single Mothers
    Pump and Dump
    Why women Cheat?
    Men and Women love differently
    Career Women
    Shaming men
    "Equality"

    The list goes on. There are so many topics and this would be a great opportunity to cover most of them here thoroughly. If you were to google "What is MGTOW?", this will show up.

    Men Going Their Own Way (more commonly abbreviated MGTOW, pronounced (/ˈmɪɡtaʊ/)) is a mostly pseudonymous online community supported by websites and social media presences cautioning men against romantic relationships with women, especially marriage.

    This properly defines what MGTOW is but like I said, it's more complicated. MGTOW is a reactionary movement that has surfaced because of Feminism. Ironically, the more Feminism grew and helped women gain more rights and privileges, the more miserable women became. The whole purpose of MGTOW is to warn men about female nature. Protecting men from being in a relationship that leads into a marriage, which leads to divorce eventually. In this day and age, is has become far too dangerous for men to be in a relationship due to false r*pe allegations and false reports of domestic violence. Which both could ruin a man's life forever. When it comes to marriage and divorce, women instigate 70% of all divorces and men are more likely to commit suicide after or during a process of divorce. With men losing half of their wealth, like their money, homes, cars, and of course children, if they had children. Along with paying child support and alimony for a certain amount of years or for the rest of their lives, divorced men are reduced to living in small apartments or in a car, while still paying for their house they can't live in.

    This has become a huge problem for men and destroyed families. Mentioning 70% of all divorces are instigated by the women, women can divorce a man for no reason and take him for whatever he's got. A woman can commit adultery and still be rewarded for it. So many testimonies and studies can prove this. It used to be if the wife committed adultery, the wife wouldn't get a cent and lose everything to the husband. Including the home and children. Vice versa as well, back when it was actually fair.

    Traditionally, men are to provide for their families. Whether it's financially, putting a roof over their heads and feeding them. The role for women is to care for the children and maintain the household. Unfortunately, with women getting rights like women entering the workforce, women were able to independently make their own money, buy their own homes and provide for themselves. Even back then though, women rarely took that option. Most women still married and had children with husbands to support them. In our present time, women are shamed for being mothers, more specifically stay at home mothers. Feminist constantly push for equality but what Feminism is really pushing for is a change of power. More power for women while taking men's rights away, authority in the family, and power.

    For thousands of years, men have lived under a Patriarchal society. When men had absolute authority over their women and families. If you want to go far back enough by using the the Bible or the Hunters and Gatherers method, men were responsible for protecting the tribe. Hunting for food and providing resources for their women and families. Men would seek the best looking women, and as men, that is an instinct. The reason when men see a beautiful women and want to have children with them, it's because it's a sign of fertility and health. Women are biologically built to seek the best who has an abundance or resources. A man who can provide not only wealth but protection/security as well. Being able to provide for the women and their future offspring.

    My reason for becoming MGTOW is because involving myself with women in relationships/marriage are simply too dangerous. The risks far outweigh the benefits. As a single man, I can continue to focus on myself. Building myself up financially and having my own assets. With my own house, cars, and financial stability, I am not threatened by the gynocentric system, as long as I don't involve a woman into my life. Being in a relationship/marriage cost too much money and if I were to have a women cohabitate with me, not even married, I could be in serious risk of being falsely accused of r*pe or domestic violence. And women constantly use this to get their way. Some states have Common Law Marriages, meaning if you cohabitate with your girlfriend for a certain amount of years, you're married by default. Of course with marriage, I have already stated why. Don't get me wrong, I really wish I could get married and raise a family together with a woman I love. That has always been my greatest goal in this life. Unfortunately with the laws extremely favoring the women, and constantly divorce raping the men, I can't and refuse to marry.

    But why are so many men, or more specifically, MGTOW telling men not to get married or to avoid relationships all together? Many of these men in the MGTOW community, have experienced and witnessed horrible things when it comes to relationships with women. It's not "Who hurt you?", "You just picked the wrong women.", or "Not all women are like that.". It's the reality of female nature within a gynocentric system that has destroyed the relationship between men, women, and the family unit. I don't hate women for their nature when it comes to their biological roles. A woman is supposed to pick the best man for themselves and for their offspring. The problem is when women choose to take advantage of their men and divorce their husbands, allowing them to reap the rewards so they can live a life of promiscuity and without the responsibility of being a wife and mother, it destroys families and creates children with many issues. A majority of all prison inmates were raised by single mothers. If you read many of the death row inmates, their final testimonies, which are publicly available for everyone to find and read, they often say anything from talking about the inmates loving their families, about God, or blaming their mothers from keeping them from their fathers.

    I'm gonna post a video about DDJ (Aka Bob Lewis) the story about a man who grew up in foster care, married twice, had two children from each marriage, became a paralegal and specialized in the family court laws, who eventually got all his kids back. Unfortunately a bunch of horrible things happened during all of this and his children suffered greatly. Here's his story.

     
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  2. Devin

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    what's pump and dump?
     
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    Pump and dump is when men just use women for sex. Basically using women for sex without being fully invested into a woman emotionally. Most commonly used by PUA's (Pick Up Artist). Though some MGTOW use this method, is it recommended not to do so, it's dangerous because it is now starting to become common, that women are starting to claim "regret sex" turning it into a story about withdrawing consent.
     
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  5. Devin

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    ah. on your post and your list i do not understand, are you for or against these things?
     
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    I am sorry that you are so disillusioned with relationships and women overall. We're not all bad. I have been with my husband for 25 years now. No mind games, no manipulation from either side. No cheating, breakups or even threats of separation once.

    I think extreme Feminism has been terrible for modern sociery. Men and women have our strengths and weaknesses. We should be supporting each other, not at war with each other.

    My teenage son actually got me to watch "the Red Pill" online last week to get my opinion. He is sick of all the pro-women progaganda in school and he is only in year 11. I can understand why out of desperation some men are swearing off women.
     
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    I stated I am a MGTOW. I don't do pump and dump myself but the reason why I posted many of the things on the list, was to give an understanding and variety of topics for everyone to discuss on this forum.I don't have much time right now to go back and forth, it's getting late. But I will be back on here tomorrow.
     
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    I will not make claims upon any women on here JoChris. I had to walk away to protect myself and women as well, as strange as that last part seems, it's true. I don't hate women and I'm feel sorry for many women out there, truly. Tomorrow I will post more in depth to your response and others as well. First come first serve.
     
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  9. Aero

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    I think it's possible to have a healthy sexual relationship and still avoid all the negatives. It's just very difficult, because nobody really knows each other anymore. People don't even know themselves.

    My strategy is to find the woman who is more obsessed with spirituality than money and materialism. And they are out there. Somewhere
     
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    You nailed it.

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    I don't know much about MGTOW but I get signal on my bullshit detector when I hear that term. I suspect it's just more brainwashing, more social conditioning from Tavistock and other such institutions wanting you not to marry and procreate to suit their sicko depopulation agenda. It sounds like MGTOW is basically about teaching people to become frustrated with relationships; the male pendant to feminism/femi-nazism: resentment propaganda. Let's get together and share our stories about how all women are bad, shall we? And, obviously, this is not the case and is a lie - nastiness doesn't discriminate against gender, it's not like all men are just misunderstood and mistreated saints.

    The problem is disillusionment with society as a whole; it is the case for me, at least. There are too many people just mindlessly continuing to prop up the perverted System, sustaining the illusion and the imprisonment - "sheeple", I believe the term is. It feels like people have just surrendered on a massive scale, allowing the devils to completely run amok. Wanna have cannibalism in your music videos? Check. Fake media, fake school teachings, fake everything? Got it. Put a complete dope in the White House? Secured. Toxins in the environment? Certainly. Promotion of p****philia etc, often coupled with weird occultic symbolism? Why not, let's just breach every single taboo! But really: Why is there no reaction?

    The real problem, of course, is that people have left the churches. It's the lack of spirituality in life - for women as much as men - that creates the unhappy situations. I don't often go to church myself because I don't feel spirituality is alive there. It doesn't help learning they don't even know which day the Sabbath is, or that the establishment offers bibles written by devil-worshippers. The real question - which bothers me so much - is: why don't people care? Do I care? You bet. Absolutely. But, looking around, other than this forum and random internet comments sections I can't find a single other person who does. Not one. Because, posting senseless status updates on Facebook seems to be more important to most at this point. That red pill isn't easy... but, it isn't a male-exclusive thing, so this whole 'MGTOW' thing is one big misunderstanding and distraction - just like feminism. A much better term would be the gender-neutral 'being awake' - which, really, doesn't have to mean more than just standing up for basic human decency, rejecting the surreal circus commonly known as 'society'.

    It's a mistake if you completely give up on women. It's society and the minds it creates that's rotten, not an entire natural gender.

     
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    Lol what propaganda? I'm in school and we never even talk about women except occasionally when it's relevant in history class.
     
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    In Australia the curriculum is politically correct, therefore feminist.
    The books chosen for English curriculum are girl-friendly. Current affairs and life skill discussions tend to be female-biased. Nearly all school teachers are female, slightly more male teachers in high school. (Relatively low pay compared to male-dominated professions and society's hypervigilance to pedophiles major factors).
    More positive attention given to girls, more negative to boys.

    Do more male students go to university in your country? Here more female students do now.
     
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    This is ordo ab chao. Yes, there is an on going war between the sexes. Families are the building blocks of society. Pit the sexes against each other and its game over/ everything falls apart.


    The End of Men by Hanna Rosin
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/308135/
     
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    That article about the end of men was way too long.

    But let's put this all into context. Were men really expecting to be rewarded forever for working the grunt jobs any moron can actually do? I mean it kind of seems like the big excuse for men is hey we are all big dummies. Because men were born stronger and more aggressive they just kind of ran with it, even when it was detrimental to them in every way.

    Maybe men are just the weaker sex. Like we are more likely to be dumb, or satisfied with not having unique skills.
     
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    That is a great article! I bet every 20th century first-world nation is going through the same process.
    Men have become obselete. Women are increasingly in charge. Women want to have it both ways. Men are giving up.
    MGTOW is being quite like Cartman (South Park), except it's GALS not guys. Retreating permanently won't solve the real problems they are protesting against though.

     
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    With everything going on in the world maybe men will be appreciated more again when a proper world war starts again.
     
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    Idk if that would work out well in the long run. Temporarily yeah everyone will love the troops again. But there are a lot of people who resent the military nowadays. And they still wont let women really fight on the front lines. Because it's better to shield men from their unhealthy minds, than to help them become healthy?? That's fucked up, and I don't get how men stand for it.

    If a woman puts in the work she should be able to take a bullet like everyone else. Her going down on the battlefield shouldn't make us cry more than if it's a man.
     
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    It's like health - we don't know how good we've got it until it's gone. Women won't appreciate men until they're not around any more. Better verbal negotiating skills are of no use when missiles and bullets are flying everywhere.

    People cry when women are injured in duty of any kind because deep down we know she shouldn't be there.
     
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    JoChris dropping truth bombs.
     
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    It's natural to be overprotective of women. But at some point if you don't see that they have earned the right than it is unhealthy minded thinking. Plain and simple. And that's not natural. It's not natural to want to carry women around on our backs forever.
     
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