Why Do Muslims Do This?

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there is zero justification for what these girls have to go through. i dont care what kind of "tradition" it is or how long it has been practiced.

and this goes for jews and the male circumcision mutilation as well, but thats for another thread.

by the way, if you are not outraged by this and everything else that is going on, youre not paying attention.
Someone else who used to post here often said the same thing... I like your threads on the hoaxes and false flags though.
 

Kung Fu

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Troll thread. OP is so clueless and ignorant because if he wasn't he would know that if he included sex operations, which is also a form of genital mutilation as described by the World Health Organization, the West would be in the leading position.

He's also clueless and ignorant on the fact that this is a cultural problem not a religious one lol. Trolls aren't really that creative anymore these days.
 

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Its common in extremely illiterate and rural areas. What do you expect scholars to do? Go there and fix the girls' vaginas?
Smh, muslims already know its bad. The people who practice it, practice it cuz of their traditional and ignorant cultural beliefs. Explains why even non religious ones do it.
Who said anything about scholars though? Even though it is interesting that no one seems to have support from a scholar to oppose this either. Do the leaders in these communities not have the authority to enforce a ban on such practice if it is true that the Quran does not support this?

The problem is again that the Quran does not provide sufficient leadership to equip people in rural areas to make changes like this to benefit their community. They are still left to walk in the dark because of this. These are just excuses you are making about how it would seem excessive to expect scholars to be there to enforce this. The fact of the matter remains that if the Quran is the guiding text, it should be able to sufficiently address subjects like this independently with the local leadership in these areas and it is clearly unable to do this.

Opinions are left subjective and primitive according to the original state of the culture that adopted Islam. This further demonstrates how the Quran falls short in almost every case to bring about any kind of change that benefits a larger community. That any culture adopting Islam is really existing in the same primitive state it began with.

They don't need scholars, they need spiritual authority locally that will enable them to do this. They don't have this.
 

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Who said anything about scholars though? Even though it is interesting that no one seems to have support from a scholar to oppose this either. Do the leaders in these communities not have the authority to enforce a ban on such practice if it is true that the Quran does not support this?

The problem is again that the Quran does not provide sufficient leadership to equip people in rural areas to make changes like this to benefit their community. They are still left to walk in the dark because of this. These are just excuses you are making about how it would seem excessive to expect scholars to be there to enforce this. The fact of the matter remains that if the Quran is the guiding text, it should be able to sufficiently address subjects like this independently with the local leadership in these areas and it is clearly unable to do this.

Opinions are left subjective and primitive according to the original state of the culture that adopted Islam. This further demonstrates how the Quran falls short in almost every case to bring about any kind of change that benefits a larger community. That any culture adopting Islam is really existing in the same primitive state it began with.

They don't need scholars, they need spiritual authority locally that will enable them to do this. They don't have this.
If you actually looked into the matter and studied on this issue you would know that people that adhere to Christianity also participate in gential mutilation. Don't be a hypocrite. It's a people/cultural issue not a religious one. I love how when it has nothing to do with religion less intelligent people like yourself love to bring religion into it especially when it's Islam.
 

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Yh because Christianity has taken many out of the dark hasn't it.

Scripture doesn't address every single little thing a society does. God chooses what to reference in the Quran and other things he choose to omit.

If we take an ancient practice such as FGM and try and apply religious text to it, you won't be able to find a verse which will directly comments on it because it is not an Islamic issue and is not an Islamic problem.

Patriarchy is an issue in many communities but people just want to comment on communities which follow Islam. No one here said the issue shouldn't be addressed, what do you want these leaders to do? How many times do you think they've told people stop doing this barbaric ritual? What do you think they're going to do?

'Oh ok omg sorry Mufti, sorry Mr scholar we didn't know thanks so much for the knowledge...'

They simple don't care because they're not following Islam in it's entirety, they're prioritising culture. Africans in particular put so much more importance on the lives and traditions of their ancestors. I don't see why issues in these communities are equated with Islamic issues .

The west is supposedly a region devoted to Christ, yet they commit the most heinous practices in existence. Would I go then blame Christian leaders for not guiding the governments and the people? Give me a break, people will do what they please, no one listens to the little man with God's book.
 

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Who said anything about scholars though? Even though it is interesting that no one seems to have support from a scholar to oppose this either. Do the leaders in these communities not have the authority to enforce a ban on such practice if it is true that the Quran does not support this?

The problem is again that the Quran does not provide sufficient leadership to equip people in rural areas to make changes like this to benefit their community. They are still left to walk in the dark because of this. These are just excuses you are making about how it would seem excessive to expect scholars to be there to enforce this. The fact of the matter remains that if the Quran is the guiding text, it should be able to sufficiently address subjects like this independently with the local leadership in these areas and it is clearly unable to do this.

Opinions are left subjective and primitive according to the original state of the culture that adopted Islam. This further demonstrates how the Quran falls short in almost every case to bring about any kind of change that benefits a larger community. That any culture adopting Islam is really existing in the same primitive state it began with.

They don't need scholars, they need spiritual authority locally that will enable them to do this. They don't have this.
Last time i checked even the Christians perform FGM in these areas, Do i see you going there and opposing it? lol
its an illiterate area with ignorant people who absolutely refuse to leave their historical customs, send scholars there, they'd cut even their genitalia. Muslims already know its bad and not part of islam, Scholars have talked about it on many occasions, we can't go their and fix their vajayjay, there is so much you can do.
 

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Not related to OP but rather the thread's title.

Why Muslims avoided using "Amen" but instead going around it ... Ameen, Amein, Aameen, Aamen...etc
 
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Amen is similar but the vowel is shorter than in Arabic. Lots of words have changed crossing into western lands such as the prophet's names etc there is no J in any semitic languages for example.
Yael he converts to Joel

Yehuda to Juda

Yeheshua to Joshua

Yusuf to Joseph

Yunus to Jonah

Yesus to Jesus

Yehowa to Jehovah


The word 'Amen / Ameen' means 'So be it', 'Verily' and 'Truly'. It is usually used as an expression which declares a supplication or prayer as true. and is also used by Muslims to convey, "May Allah accept or answer your prayer."


We note a long tradition with those that align themselves with the faith of Abraham making use of such a term as a culmination to a prayer.
 

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Tradition is viewed to be important in third world countries. Some of the practices disregard religion.

Aside from FGM, I can think of some traditions in WS, where Islam is seen as the true foundation of the culture. You see, it's in their tradition to get some of animal's blood on new vehicles. It acts as sacrifice so the vehicles will be safe and sound, something that is not in Islam at all. I once tried arguing that it's not in islamt, they didn't care though.
 
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