Why Do Empaths Attract Narcissists, Sociopaths And Psychoaths

[Todd]

That's cool that you take it as a calling to help.
Understanding the symptoms and all too. But seems like it still kinda doesn't help in a relationship

My wife has plently of experience with both Alzhemier and austistic patients. There is so much that has been learned about both in the last 10 years and yet so much that is still not understood. It's also important to realize that Autism is a very general term and every person diagnosed as autistic is not the same. That is why professionals refer to it as the "autism spectrum". When we did foster care we were approved to provide foster care for kids diagnosed with autism, so I have some experience myself with it. Every child was completely different fom my perspective and what worked for one child didn't neccesarily work with another child. Many autisitc people are fully capable of experiencing empathy.

My wife was also close to someone who had two severly autistic children. The one boy was very aggresive and hyper also. It was so bad that her husband divorced her because he could not take living with his own children. She was desperate to find answers and get help for her children so my wife accompanied her on a trip to visit a specialist out of town. The specialist explained how her children's behavior was directly affected/exacerbated by a condition in their intestinal system. By changing their diet she was able to directly influence their behavior and demeanor.

I share all this to say that you can't put people diagnosed with Autism in box. Every case and every individual is unique and different.

 

[Dalit]

Yeah, isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results? Bang head against wall. Oh, that really hurts! Should I bang it again?

 

[Maes17]

My wife has plently of experience with both Alzhemier and austistic patients. There is so much that has been learned about both in the last 10 years and yet so much that is still not understood. It's also important to realize that Autism is a very general term and every person diagnosed as autistic is not the same. That is why professionals refer to it as the "autism spectrum". When we did foster care we were approved to provide foster care for kids diagnosed with autism, so I have some experience myself with it. Every child was completely different fom my perspective and what worked for one child didn't neccesarily work with another child. Many autisitc people are fully capable of experiencing empathy.

My wife was also close to someone who had two severly autistic children. The one boy was very aggresive and hyper also. It was so bad that her husband divorced her because he could not take living with his own children. She was desperate to find answers and get help for her children so my wife accompanied her on a trip to visit a specialist out of town. The specialist explained how her children's behavior was directly affected/exacerbated by a condition in their intestinal system. By changing their diet she was able to directly influence their behavior and demeanor.

I share all this to say that you can't put people diagnosed with Autism in box. Every case and every individual is unique and different.

That's what I was thinking.

There seems to be a lot of area to cover. What symptoms or behaviors classify someone as autistic?

Justjess or Vixy seem to read people like an open book it seems.
I guess I don't have the patience to actual people watch either though

 

[justjess]

What does that mean exactly? I said about 10 times there is a wide range and a lot of variation..

 

[Vixy]

That's cool that you take it as a calling to help.
Understanding the symptoms and all too. But seems like it still kinda doesn't help in a relationship

Unfortunally Maes..You are 100% right. I wish it was possible but if it was, I'd be married since the year 2000.

 

[justjess]

Not t to scholarly but good in a basic way...

 

[Dalit]

That's what I was thinking.

There seems to be a lot of area to cover. What symptoms or behaviors classify someone as autistic?

Justjess or Vixy seem to read people like an open book it seems.
I guess I don't have the patience to actual people watch either though

Here's a good show regarding autism. Love this show.

 

[Vixy]

Y'all MFer's need jesus man!

Jk jk jk lol

Right back at'cha, bitch!

Seriously though..I got the dude. He's one good dude.

 

[Maes17]

Not t to scholarly but good in a basic way... View attachment 18249

I have a hard time with change to routine. That I can identify with

 

[Maes17]

Unfortunally Maes..You are 100% right. I wish it was possible but if it was, I'd be married since the year 2000.

The way you describe people with autism seems like as much as you try to help, I guess from looking at the chart justjess posted.
Maybe they are sensitive/under sensitive to affection, needing personal space and all that.


So I guess I kinda get it.

 

[justjess]

I have a hard time with change to routine. That I can identify with

People with autism typically have problems with socialization and communication, there are a lot of other secondary traits such as above which may or may not also be present. And the range within each category is huge fromconplrtely non verbal to difficulty with analogy type statements only.

Changes in routine are hard due to rigid thinking and difficulty with executive functioning in autism, I have a hard time with routine change to but it’s different reasons and nowhere near as severe and as much as I might dislike I can adapt etc

 

[Maes17]

People with autism typically have problems with socialization and communication, there are a lot of other secondary traits such as above which may or may not also be present. And the range within each category is huge fromconplrtely non verbal to difficulty with analogy type statements only.

Changes in routine are hard due to rigid thinking and difficulty with executive functioning in autism, I have a hard time with routine change to but it’s different reasons and nowhere near as severe and as much as I might dislike I can adapt etc

Autism doesnt sound very fun.
Seems like they have a hard time coping with circumstances directly and indirectly at them.

To me, I feel like they experience sensations or emotions extreme.

Has to be a weird sensory overload or severe lack of senses/feelings(physical and emotional)

 

[Vixy]

Let me tell you something about aspergers and empathy.

So this guy I know that I dated for a while treated me like this during the year:

He contacted me on skype a year ago after 4 years of silence. (We used to date back in 2014) We started talking again after he apologized of how badly he treated me back then and told me he had matured since then. (He was horribly mean back then so I didnt know if I wanted to meet or even really talk) so he showed me attention and we talked daily. Finally we started meting now and then and all of a sudden he would dissapear.
Not a sound, not a peep for weeks on end. Then he'd message me and want to meet up late at night and we'd meet (cause I was an idiot who agreed to it) and he'd dissapear right after and stay silent for weeks again.

This kept going all year through until I finally had enough and blocked him. He would protest when I did and I would add him back and this cycle kept going.

I tried asking him what his behaviour was about and he'd tell me he'd isolate in periods, not talking to anybody.

Finally I had enough and DEMANDED some fukn answers yesterday after a month of silence and he insist I had to come to his place for them so finally I did. He told me this:

He contacted me because he thought he might have a chance at sex with me, after a 2 year long relationship with someone else (I knew about this relationship) bc he found me "easy" (I waited 5 months before I did anything with him) and it had been a sexthing all along.

His view of me was so bad that when I told him noone had ever had me for sex only but always wanted relationships with me, he looked genuinly surprised.

He didnt tell me any of this out of fear that I would freak out and throw a stone through his window. (Yes, a small sick woman who hardly gets out of bed)

He showed NO empaty through saying these things and I fnd no reason for him lying since he looses on this, and wins nothing.

I took it as I finally had answers to his strange behaviours, and that we wouldnt see each other anymore, yet tonight he's initiating contact again. probably damage control to see if I'm angry and planning to stone his windows, lol!

Dont think I have to mention I havent replied, huh?

 

[Dalit]

Let me tell you something about aspergers and empathy.

So this guy I know that I dated for a while treated me like this during the year:

He contacted me on skype a year ago after 4 years of silence. (We used to date back in 2014) We started talking again after he apologized of how badly he treated me back then and told me he had matured since then. (He was horribly mean back then so I didnt know if I wanted to meet or even really talk) so he showed me attention and we talked daily. Finally we started meting now and then and all of a sudden he would dissapear.
Not a sound, not a peep for weeks on end. Then he'd message me and want to meet up late at night and we'd meet (cause I was an idiot who agreed to it) and he'd dissapear right after and stay silent for weeks again.

This kept going all year through until I finally had enough and blocked him. He would protest when I did and I would add him back and this cycle kept going.

I tried asking him what his behaviour was about and he'd tell me he'd isolate in periods, not talking to anybody.

Finally I had enough and DEMANDED some fukn answers yesterday after a month of silence and he insist I had to come to his place for them so finally I did. He told me this:

He contacted me because he thought he might have a chance at sex with me, after a 2 year long relationship with someone else (I knew about this relationship) bc he found me "easy" (I waited 5 months before I did anything with him) and it had been a sexthing all along.

His view of me was so bad that when I told him noone had ever had me for sex only but always wanted relationships with me, he looked genuinly surprised.

He didnt tell me any of this out of fear that I would freak out and throw a stone through his window. (Yes, a small sick woman who hardly gets out of bed)

He showed NO empaty through saying these things and I fnd no reason for him lying since he looses on this, and wins nothing.

I took it as I finally had answers to his strange behaviours, and that we wouldnt see each other anymore, yet tonight he's initiating contact again. probably damage control to see if I'm angry and planning to stone his windows, lol!

Dont think I have to mention I havent replied, huh?

I know it's none of my business, but cut him off. He wants a booty call and you're the supply.

 

[Vixy]

I know it's none of my business, but cut him off. He wants a booty call and you're the supply.

I know. :/ I'm not replying to him anymore. Strangest thing though, he got his first apartment this summer and its right across the street from mine. Then he bought the tv I wanted and the same keyboard I have and put the pic of it on skype so I should see..it all feels so strange. Coincidence?

 

[Maes17]

I know it's none of my business, but cut him off. He wants a booty call and you're the supply.

My thoughts too

 

[Maes17]

Let me tell you something about aspergers and empathy.

So this guy I know that I dated for a while treated me like this during the year:

He contacted me on skype a year ago after 4 years of silence. (We used to date back in 2014) We started talking again after he apologized of how badly he treated me back then and told me he had matured since then. (He was horribly mean back then so I didnt know if I wanted to meet or even really talk) so he showed me attention and we talked daily. Finally we started meting now and then and all of a sudden he would dissapear.
Not a sound, not a peep for weeks on end. Then he'd message me and want to meet up late at night and we'd meet (cause I was an idiot who agreed to it) and he'd dissapear right after and stay silent for weeks again.

This kept going all year through until I finally had enough and blocked him. He would protest when I did and I would add him back and this cycle kept going.

I tried asking him what his behaviour was about and he'd tell me he'd isolate in periods, not talking to anybody.

Finally I had enough and DEMANDED some fukn answers yesterday after a month of silence and he insist I had to come to his place for them so finally I did. He told me this:

He contacted me because he thought he might have a chance at sex with me, after a 2 year long relationship with someone else (I knew about this relationship) bc he found me "easy" (I waited 5 months before I did anything with him) and it had been a sexthing all along.

His view of me was so bad that when I told him noone had ever had me for sex only but always wanted relationships with me, he looked genuinly surprised.

He didnt tell me any of this out of fear that I would freak out and throw a stone through his window. (Yes, a small sick woman who hardly gets out of bed)

He showed NO empaty through saying these things and I fnd no reason for him lying since he looses on this, and wins nothing.

I took it as I finally had answers to his strange behaviours, and that we wouldnt see each other anymore, yet tonight he's initiating contact again. probably damage control to see if I'm angry and planning to stone his windows, lol!

Dont think I have to mention I havent replied, huh?

Yeah that's a very....lack of emotion. One of my close friends claims he's aspie. I call him ass burger jokingly. He knows I don't mean it. But he does have a very stubborn outlook on life. Like he demands people agree with him or he tends to have his fave philosophers he studies.

It's their outlook cause they said so

 

[Vixy]

Yeah that's a very....lack of emotion. One of my close friends claims he's aspie. I call him ass burger jokingly. He knows I don't mean it. But he does have a very stubborn outlook on life. Like he demands people agree with him or he tends to have his fave philosophers he studies.

It's their outlook cause they said so

The stubbornness I've heard about but luckily only countered one time myself. The lack of emotion is almost always there, yes. Like robots. No empathy, no reactions, no emotional respons.

I thought we were done after this but no, he wants to keep seing me. WTF? So I told him that no, he had told me what he wanted and that I dont want that. Now he says I've misunderstood the whole thing and in the midst of our conversation, he disapeared again. This is getting to where its actually funny. I've never met a more disturbed person in my life. (And I've met some real weirdos) Cant even be mad, he's just too disturbed.

Anyone else with any similar experience? I've met another girl now whos goe through this aswell and shes as confused as I am from it, haha!

 

[Maes17]

The stubbornness I've heard about but luckily only countered one time myself. The lack of emotion is almost always there, yes. Like robots. No empathy, no reactions, no emotional respons.

I thought we were done after this but no, he wants to keep seing me. WTF? So I told him that no, he had told me what he wanted and that I dont want that. Now he says I've misunderstood the whole thing and in the midst of our conversation, he disapeared again. This is getting to where its actually funny. I've never met a more disturbed person in my life. (And I've met some real weirdos) Cant even be mad, he's just too disturbed.

Anyone else with any similar experience? I've met another girl now whos goe through this aswell and shes as confused as I am from it, haha!

I never experienced anything like, but from the sound of things. I'd put that fool on ignore and drop him like a sack of potatoes

 

[Vixy]

I never experienced anything like, but from the sound of things. I'd put that fool on ignore and drop him like a sack of potatoes

Thanks for encouraging me and giving me the truth, Maes, Love ya!