When all four Gospel writers are in agreement that Jesus was crucified on παρασκευή which is the Greek word for Friday... then how could He not have been crucified on Friday ?
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Again all four Gospel writers wrote that He was crucified on παρασκευή which is still Friday in Greek.
Why would not the Lamb of God be crucified on the LORD's Passover ???
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Preparation to rest on an annual holy day. Wed-Thu. Each rest day (Sabbath) required a day of preparation ahead of it. An annual Sabbath could be on any day of the week. US Independence Day is a high day Sabbath. July 3rd is παρασκευή as the pyrotechnicians have to load those fireworks.
"that sabbath day was a high day" - it was an annual holiday. Fixed on the yearly calendar and not on the weekly cycle.
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Just a little bit off topic thoughts about seven-day week with one day of rest. It's a great thing. It's from God. Some historians believe Babylonians invented it, some think Israelites invented it, others think extra-terrestrial progressors (worshipped as gods, such as Yahveh or Baal etc) taught earth people do it. Whatever the origins, it's from the Universal consciousness. Saturday, Sunday, or Wednesday, a day of rest every seven days is very beneficial and healthy.
But the Greek word παρασκευή is the Greek word for Friday.
You can even check it in Google translate... paste the Greek word into Google translate and let it translate into English.
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The Idea that murder, theft, and adultery, are wrong comes form the fact that they are clearly harmful to our fellow man. These actions are considered wrong in nearly every society, so this clearly has nothing to do with religious law. If day of worship has any bearing on character, then God is a legalistic, petty tyrant. It doesn't matter if you worship on Saturday, Sunday, Wednesday, or Never. What is important is that you love your neighbors and treat them as you would like to be treated.
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The Bible mentions many highly immoral, harmful and deadly acts supposedly carried out by "God" or on belhaf of God, approved by "God" or ordered by "God".
Jephthah burnt his only daughter in sacrifice to "God" as payment for his military victory granted to him by "God". In 1 Sam 12 and Heb 11 Jephthah is praised as a hero of faith...
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What Day Did Jesus Die?
There is controversy among some Christians about the true day of Jesus’ death. Most people believe that Jesus died on a Friday, but some (Wednesday Crucifixionists) believe that Jesus actually died on a Wednesday. Part of the reason for this belief is that Jesus mentions that, "as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matt 12:40). This could mean that Jesus would have died on Wednesday, in order to be entombed for three literal days and three literal nights (Thursday, Friday, and Saturday), and rise on Sunday. Other variations of this belief also exist.
The Hebrews and other ancient peoples used "inclusive reckoning," meaning that part of the day is counted as a "day." And the Bible lists several periods of "three days" that ended during, not after, the third day, and thus covered less than three full 24-hour days (Gen 42:17-19, for one example). So for Jesus to keep His own time reckoning, He Himself would have "rested" on the seventh-day holy Sabbath, and arisen quite early on the first day of the week. We cannot rightly interpret the Bible if we do not take into account the meaning of words in Biblical days, nor their methods of accounting or speaking of time.
But can we discern from the Scriptures on which day Jesus really died? To do so, we take a look at the book of Mark.
Unleaven Day #1:
In Mark 10:32-34, Jesus is on His way up to Jerusalem. He tells His disciples, "Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles: and they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again."
On the same day, He talks to James and John about sitting on His right hand and left hand, and then restores Bartimaeus' sight. In Mark 11:1, He is approaching Jerusalem "unto Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount of Olives."
Let us call this Day #1. We don't know which day it is yet, but we shall count it as the first day of our count. Mark 11:2-11 describes what Jesus does for the rest of that day. He rides on the colt into Jerusalem and goes into the temple. In verse 11, it was evening, the end of this day, and He goes to Bethany to stay with the twelve disciples perhaps at Martha and Mary’s house.
Day #2:
In verse 12 of Mark 11, we see that it is the next day "on the morrow," and Jesus is hungry for breakfast as they are coming from Bethany. As they pass a barren fig tree, Jesus curses the tree, and goes down to Jerusalem, where He cleanses the temple for the second time in His ministry, and teaches the people. This was Day #2. Verse 19 states that "when even was come, he went out of the city" and stayed somewhere for the night.
Day #3:
Mark 11:20 tells us that, "in the morning,” meaning the beginning of Day #3, Jesus goes again to the city of Jerusalem, and the day is a busy one. First the disciples notice that the fig tree Jesus had cursed has shrivelled. The priests, scribes, and elders question Him about what authority He uses to do His miracles. He tells a parable, the Pharisees try "to catch him in his words" (Mark 12:13) using various questions and arguments.
Then Jesus goes to the treasury and watches people cast in their money and He comments on the widow's mite. He then gives the disciples a list of signs to watch for that will transpire before His Second Coming. All the things He discusses with the Pharisees, Sadducees, and scribes is found in Mark chapter 12. In Mark 13, He goes to the Mount of Olives after the altercation with the Pharisees, probably to rest and get away from the harassment. There he talks to Peter, James, John, and Andrew privately about the signs of His Second Coming. The rest of the chapter records what He said.
Day #4:
Mark 14:1 is the next day (Day #4), and the Bible tells us that the Passover is two days away. On this day, Mary anoints Jesus with her "alabaster box of ointment of spikenard" (Mark 14:3) at a special dinner made in Jesus’ honor, and Judas Iscariot makes a pact with the chief priests to betray Jesus.
Day #5:
In verse 12 of Mark 14, we find Day #5, which was the Passover, when the Jews kill the Passover lamb. On this day, the disciples rent an upper room, and there they hold the last supper Jesus has with His disciples before His death. On that same night, Jesus goes to Gethsemane and spends agonizing hours in prayer while His disciples sleep. Then Judas comes with a "great multitude with swords and staves" (Mark 14:43), and kisses Him. The mob then arrests Jesus, and His disciples all forsake Him (verse 50). Then follows Jesus' night trial before the chief priests at which they condemn Him to death. It is during this trial that Peter denies Jesus three times. Jesus is then lowered into the pit for the night.
Day #6:
Day 6 begins in Mark 15:1. “Straightway in the morning" Jesus is taken to Pilate, then to Herod, then to Pilate again until finally Pilate agrees to sign the death sentence, and orders that Jesus be crucified. At the sixth hour darkness covers the whole land until the ninth hour, and at the ninth hour, Jesus cries "My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?"
Shortly thereafter, Jesus dies (verses 33-37). Mark says in verse 42 “Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath". The word used in Mark 15:42 for "the preparation day" is the word used only for the day before the seventh-day Sabbath (or Saturday). The preparation day therefore is Friday—therefore, the day that Jesus died. On that same day, according to Mark, Jesus is taken down and quickly wrapped and placed in Joseph of Arimathaea's new tomb, so that He does not hang on the cross over the Sabbath.
Day #7:
The day in between Mark 15:47 and Mark 16:1 is the Sabbath. Nothing is written about this day, but Mark 16:1-2 tells us that, "when the Sabbath was past... very early in the morning the first day of the week...at the rising of the sun," three women go back to the tomb to anoint Jesus with spices (because they hadn’t been able to finish that work when He died on Friday since the Sabbath was approaching, and they wanted to keep the Sabbath holy). This is Day #7 in our count.
Day #8:
Mark 16:1 says: "Now when the Sabbath was past,..."" which makes it the first day of the week. The first day of the week, which would have been a Sunday, we label as Day #8, the day that Jesus rose from the grave.
If we calculate backwards then, Day #8 was the Sunday of the resurrection, the day after the Sabbath, the first day of the week. Day #7 was the Sabbath of which nothing was written because Jesus was resting, and His disciples were sorrowing. Day #6 would have been Friday, the Preparation Day, the day on which Jesus breathed His last. Day #5 would have been Thursday, the day of the last supper and Gethsemane. Day #4 was clearly Wednesday in our progression. Day #3 Tuesday. Day #2 Monday, and Day #1 - the day we started our count with was the previous Sunday, the day on which Jesus entered triumphantly into Jerusalem. This entire week was Passover and Jesus, the Passover Lamb, died as per the Jewish customs and to fulfill prophecy.
There is controversy among some Christians about the true day of Jesus’ death. Most people believe that Jesus died on a Friday, but some (Wednesday Crucifixionists) believe that Jesus actually died on a Wednesday. Part of the reason for this belief is that Jesus mentions that, "as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matt 12:40). This could mean that Jesus would have died on Wednesday, in order to be entombed for three literal days and three literal nights (Thursday, Friday, and Saturday), and rise on Sunday. Other variations of this belief also exist.
The Hebrews and other ancient peoples used "inclusive reckoning," meaning that part of the day is counted as a "day." And the Bible lists several periods of "three days" that ended during, not after, the third day, and thus covered less than three full 24-hour days (Gen 42:17-19, for one example). So for Jesus to keep His own time reckoning, He Himself would have "rested" on the seventh-day holy Sabbath, and arisen quite early on the first day of the week. We cannot rightly interpret the Bible if we do not take into account the meaning of words in Biblical days, nor their methods of accounting or speaking of time.
But can we discern from the Scriptures on which day Jesus really died? To do so, we take a look at the book of Mark.
Unleaven Day #1:
In Mark 10:32-34, Jesus is on His way up to Jerusalem. He tells His disciples, "Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles: and they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again."
On the same day, He talks to James and John about sitting on His right hand and left hand, and then restores Bartimaeus' sight. In Mark 11:1, He is approaching Jerusalem "unto Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount of Olives."
Let us call this Day #1. We don't know which day it is yet, but we shall count it as the first day of our count. Mark 11:2-11 describes what Jesus does for the rest of that day. He rides on the colt into Jerusalem and goes into the temple. In verse 11, it was evening, the end of this day, and He goes to Bethany to stay with the twelve disciples perhaps at Martha and Mary’s house.
Day #2:
In verse 12 of Mark 11, we see that it is the next day "on the morrow," and Jesus is hungry for breakfast as they are coming from Bethany. As they pass a barren fig tree, Jesus curses the tree, and goes down to Jerusalem, where He cleanses the temple for the second time in His ministry, and teaches the people. This was Day #2. Verse 19 states that "when even was come, he went out of the city" and stayed somewhere for the night.
Day #3:
Mark 11:20 tells us that, "in the morning,” meaning the beginning of Day #3, Jesus goes again to the city of Jerusalem, and the day is a busy one. First the disciples notice that the fig tree Jesus had cursed has shrivelled. The priests, scribes, and elders question Him about what authority He uses to do His miracles. He tells a parable, the Pharisees try "to catch him in his words" (Mark 12:13) using various questions and arguments.
Then Jesus goes to the treasury and watches people cast in their money and He comments on the widow's mite. He then gives the disciples a list of signs to watch for that will transpire before His Second Coming. All the things He discusses with the Pharisees, Sadducees, and scribes is found in Mark chapter 12. In Mark 13, He goes to the Mount of Olives after the altercation with the Pharisees, probably to rest and get away from the harassment. There he talks to Peter, James, John, and Andrew privately about the signs of His Second Coming. The rest of the chapter records what He said.
Day #4:
Mark 14:1 is the next day (Day #4), and the Bible tells us that the Passover is two days away. On this day, Mary anoints Jesus with her "alabaster box of ointment of spikenard" (Mark 14:3) at a special dinner made in Jesus’ honor, and Judas Iscariot makes a pact with the chief priests to betray Jesus.
Day #5:
In verse 12 of Mark 14, we find Day #5, which was the Passover, when the Jews kill the Passover lamb. On this day, the disciples rent an upper room, and there they hold the last supper Jesus has with His disciples before His death. On that same night, Jesus goes to Gethsemane and spends agonizing hours in prayer while His disciples sleep. Then Judas comes with a "great multitude with swords and staves" (Mark 14:43), and kisses Him. The mob then arrests Jesus, and His disciples all forsake Him (verse 50). Then follows Jesus' night trial before the chief priests at which they condemn Him to death. It is during this trial that Peter denies Jesus three times. Jesus is then lowered into the pit for the night.
Day #6:
Day 6 begins in Mark 15:1. “Straightway in the morning" Jesus is taken to Pilate, then to Herod, then to Pilate again until finally Pilate agrees to sign the death sentence, and orders that Jesus be crucified. At the sixth hour darkness covers the whole land until the ninth hour, and at the ninth hour, Jesus cries "My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?"
Shortly thereafter, Jesus dies (verses 33-37). Mark says in verse 42 “Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath". The word used in Mark 15:42 for "the preparation day" is the word used only for the day before the seventh-day Sabbath (or Saturday). The preparation day therefore is Friday—therefore, the day that Jesus died. On that same day, according to Mark, Jesus is taken down and quickly wrapped and placed in Joseph of Arimathaea's new tomb, so that He does not hang on the cross over the Sabbath.
Day #7:
The day in between Mark 15:47 and Mark 16:1 is the Sabbath. Nothing is written about this day, but Mark 16:1-2 tells us that, "when the Sabbath was past... very early in the morning the first day of the week...at the rising of the sun," three women go back to the tomb to anoint Jesus with spices (because they hadn’t been able to finish that work when He died on Friday since the Sabbath was approaching, and they wanted to keep the Sabbath holy). This is Day #7 in our count.
Day #8:
Mark 16:1 says: "Now when the Sabbath was past,..."" which makes it the first day of the week. The first day of the week, which would have been a Sunday, we label as Day #8, the day that Jesus rose from the grave.
If we calculate backwards then, Day #8 was the Sunday of the resurrection, the day after the Sabbath, the first day of the week. Day #7 was the Sabbath of which nothing was written because Jesus was resting, and His disciples were sorrowing. Day #6 would have been Friday, the Preparation Day, the day on which Jesus breathed His last. Day #5 would have been Thursday, the day of the last supper and Gethsemane. Day #4 was clearly Wednesday in our progression. Day #3 Tuesday. Day #2 Monday, and Day #1 - the day we started our count with was the previous Sunday, the day on which Jesus entered triumphantly into Jerusalem. This entire week was Passover and Jesus, the Passover Lamb, died as per the Jewish customs and to fulfill prophecy.
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The story is recorded as lesson not to make rash promises to God. If God was okay with the sacrifice, why was He angered by the Israelites for 'passing their children through the fire' (to Molech) and forbidding them to do so? (Jeremiah 32:35/Deut 12:31)
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I have a very good library of Hebrew/Greek OT/NT, Lexicons, Dictionaries, Commentaries, grammar textbooks etc. etc. pI can read and understand both Koine and modern Greek. So I take it as an insult to use Google.
Many words are polysemic - they have more than one meaning and possible translations.
Paraskevi = "before putting on" or preparation. For example, Kataskevi = to train, try out.
You ignore additional information in the gospels. Passover was a high day. Annual holiday.
Sabbath = [day of] rest, i.e. any day when it was prohibited to work. Even it falls on a Thursday.
Paraskevi = preparation for a day of rest
This is how weekdays look like in koine Greek:
Sunday = first day or Lord's day
Monday = second day
Tuesday = third day
Wednesday = fourth day
Thursday = fifth day
Friday = preparation or sixth day
Saturday = Sabbath
Sabbaton (Sabbath) also means "a week" in the Bible. Wednesday can be called "fourth of the Sabbath".
The word "preparation" - Paraskevi - is not limited to the sixth day of the week, it can mean the day of preparation to a holiday (a day before Sabbath).
Same way in English, Friday = the day of Frigg (goddess of love). I'm pretty sure Frigg could have had her own holiday during the year, in that case Frigg-day could be on a Monday, for example.
Polysemic words.
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Many contradictions in the Bible. There are many acts approved or commanded by "God" which go against another commandment such as OT law. Easily understansible if we know the history of the Bible. The books were not written at the same time. They were compiled and edited over many hundreds of years. The beliefs of Israelites also changed and evolved.
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The most important thing is that the burden of every book in the Bible is this: the redemption of man.
The one thing that laid bare the heart of God: that He is Love. "Greater Love has none but this, the he lay down his life for his friends" John 15.
If you're so smart... how come you don't know Jesus Christ is God ?I have a very good library of Hebrew/Greek OT/NT, Lexicons, Dictionaries, Commentaries, grammar textbooks etc. etc. pI can read and understand both Koine and modern Greek. So I take it as an insult to use Google.
14 Nisan is the Lord's Passover
15 Nisan is the first high day of the Feast of unleavened bread.
I don't ignore anything... 15 Nisan was and is a high day as it is the first day of the Feast of unleavened bread. Jesus was of course not crucified on a high/holy day but taken down from the cross just before sunset 15 Nisan high day.
It just so happened in 33 AD that 15 Nisan high day was on a Sabbath/Saturday.
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I heard somewhere that it was actually two nights and 3 days-- cannot remember where. Is that what you're saying here? ^^
The Hebrews and other ancient peoples used "inclusive reckoning," meaning that part of the day is counted as a "day." And the Bible lists several periods of "three days" that ended during, not after, the third day, and thus covered less than three full 24-hour days (Gen 42:17-19, for one example). So for Jesus to keep His own time reckoning, He Himself would have "rested" on the seventh-day holy Sabbath, and arisen quite early on the first day of the week. We cannot rightly interpret the Bible if we do not take into account the meaning of words in Biblical days, nor their methods of accounting or speaking of time.
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I know this. Traditional version. I like my interpretation because every piece of the puzzle fits, including 72 hours in the grave. Shabbat was the day when God ceased from his work (Shabbat is from the verb to stop) and same way Jesus completed his redemptive work by resurrecting on the 7th day. The tomb was found on Sunday morning already empty. It was assumed he rose moments ago just before sunrise. In reality the tomb had been empty since Sat late afternoon (end of Shabbat before sunset). So he is our Pesach and by him we enter into eternal Shabbat.
Let me see...
Crucified on Friday 14 Nisan and buried just before sunset... and rose again on Sunday 16 Nisan just before sunrise.
What will we call it ? Shoot why not say it like He did...
Mark 10 32 "Now they were on the road, going up to Jerusalem, and Jesus was going before them; and they were amazed. And as they followed they were afraid. Then He took the twelve aside again and began to tell them the things that would happen to Him: 33 “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death and deliver Him to the Gentiles; 34 and they will mock Him, and scourge Him, and spit on Him, and kill Him. And the third day He will rise again.”
72 hours in the grave is just a modern interpretation of the sign of Jonah which Jesus gave to the crowd who wanted a sign from Him. Elsewhere in Mark 10:34 for example He said on the third day.
In the Bible 14 Nisan is the Lord's Passover and 15 Nisan is the first high day of the Feast of unleavened bread.
What was translated as Preparation is the Greek word for Friday.
In 33 AD 14 Nisan was on a Preparation/Friday and 15 Nisan on a Sabbath/Saturday.
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Yup. Check it.. from Mark 10:
2250. hémera ►
Strong's Concordance
hémera: day
Original Word: ἡμέρα, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: hémera
Phonetic Spelling: (hay-mer'-ah)
Short Definition: a day
Definition: a day, the period from sunrise to sunset.
STRONGS NT 2250: ἡμέρα
1. of the natural day, or the interval between sunrise and sunset, as distinguished from and contrasted