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The more massacres there are, the more the gun stuff comes to the head of politics, the more it will help the republicans in the 2020 election, in my opinion. There are no voters in my lifetime as dedicated as pro-gun voters.
 





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"Watts wants Congress to make domestic terrorism a federal crime (suspected domestic terrorists now typically face gun, conspiracy, or hate-crime charges) and to pass a law for designating domestic terrorism organizations and domestic terrorists (the State Department does this for international terrorists and terrorist groups). He’s also proposed that the FBI director launch a national domestic-terrorism case for “white-nationalist-inspired terrorism,” which would “help the FBI dedicate more resources and personnel to white-nationalist terrorism, may help them detect violent plots earlier, and increase the amount of information for sharing with state and local partners who may be better informed and positioned for thwarting extremist violence.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/08/how-can-fbi-fight-far-right-extremism-ideology/595435/

Ummm…….I think I now finally understand the real goal that these mass shootings (of which the US somehow maintains a monopoly) are supposed to achieve for TPTB. While disarmament may be part of it, the other goal is to quell every form of dissent by classifying every dissenting behavior as terrorism. I don’t think it was a coincidence that a few days ago this made news:
Yahoo News reports that the FBI “for the first time has identified fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat.”
Or Obama comparing these mass shooters to ISIS.

And now one of the shootings is classified as “domestic terrorism” and everyone is talking about this “new” menace. I think that they want everyone to get very comfortable with the term and what it entails. Everyone knows what “international terrorism” called for: dhs, legal surveillance, etc. Therefore, in tossing around the term, it is expected that everyone think about what is to be demanded of them inorder to be kept safe from domestic terrorists/next-door neighbor and the question is: what are you prepared to give up in exchange for security? Protection from yourself and others. This furthers atomization of the society. If a conspiracy theorist is a terrorist, it translates into the idea that you are a threat not only to yourself but also to others and the threat has to be neutralized somehow.

The demonization of the Arab/colored was never the ultimate but rather used to segue into the white terrorist. While it was difficult, after 9/11, to portray whites as terrorists in movies and tv shows, there were afew that did otherwise.

9/11 called for mass surveillance, legally that is. This calls for massive roll-out of pre-crime apparatus to protect you from yourself and others.

Bush: "terrorists hate our freedoms"

"The ultimate goal, and one that we are rapidly approaching, is the destruction of all social bonds and the obliteration of any remaining sense of community— the complete atomization of society."
 





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I thought Europeans voluntarily gave up their guns? Except for the Swiss or is it the Austrians? I can’t remember which ones make their citizens have them.
Yes, they did. That's why we don't have all those shootings, which is exactly my point.
 





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Yes, they did. That's why we don't have all those shootings, which is exactly my point.
We've traded gun violence with other forms of violence but Europe has had a Breivik. Thankfully we have healthcare instead of guns or Europe would be far worse than America with all the things that occured during the last 10 years. MKUltra wouldn't be necessary at all.
 





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Bulletproof backpacks? Wow, I guess its better than nothing.

I noticed recently that the private security industry is worth 180 billion dollars. And that in a lot of countries private security workers actually outnumber police. So I'm wondering, what are all these security workers doing?

Let's talk about how Wal-mart fits into that narrative. They are like the biggest retailer in America. Therefore if anyone has the money to pay for beefy security it is them. But they don't, and I think it's time people started asking why.

I think that local and federal governments should mandate that big corporations protect their customers properly. No longer should they be able to take advantage of the public sector. I mean the average wal-mart parking lot in America is the go-to spot for drug dealing and theft. So who pays for it? WE DO. Because the companies that can pay for extra security don't!
 





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https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/02/27/israeli-company-markets-bulletproof-backpacks-and-will-donate-proceeds-to-school-safety-activists/

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"Watts wants Congress to make domestic terrorism a federal crime (suspected domestic terrorists now typically face gun, conspiracy, or hate-crime charges) and to pass a law for designating domestic terrorism organizations and domestic terrorists (the State Department does this for international terrorists and terrorist groups). He’s also proposed that the FBI director launch a national domestic-terrorism case for “white-nationalist-inspired terrorism,” which would “help the FBI dedicate more resources and personnel to white-nationalist terrorism, may help them detect violent plots earlier, and increase the amount of information for sharing with state and local partners who may be better informed and positioned for thwarting extremist violence.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/08/how-can-fbi-fight-far-right-extremism-ideology/595435/

Ummm…….I think I now finally understand the real goal that these mass shootings (of which the US somehow maintains a monopoly) are supposed to achieve for TPTB. While disarmament may be part of it, the other goal is to quell every form of dissent by classifying every dissenting behavior as terrorism. I don’t think it was a coincidence that a few days ago this made news:
Yahoo News reports that the FBI “for the first time has identified fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat.”
Or Obama comparing these mass shooters to ISIS.

And now one of the shootings is classified as “domestic terrorism” and everyone is talking about this “new” menace. I think that they want everyone to get very comfortable with the term and what it entails. Everyone knows what “international terrorism” called for: dhs, legal surveillance, etc. Therefore, in tossing around the term, it is expected that everyone think about what is to be demanded of them inorder to be kept safe from domestic terrorists/next-door neighbor and the question is: what are you prepared to give up in exchange for security? Protection from yourself and others. This furthers atomization of the society. If a conspiracy theorist is a terrorist, it translates into the idea that you are a threat not only to yourself but also to others and the threat has to be neutralized somehow.

The demonization of the Arab/colored was never the ultimate but rather used to segue into the white terrorist. While it was difficult, after 9/11, to portray whites as terrorists in movies and tv shows, there were afew that did otherwise.

9/11 called for mass surveillance, legally that is. This calls for massive roll-out of pre-crime apparatus to protect you from yourself and others.

Bush: "terrorists hate our freedoms"

"The ultimate goal, and one that we are rapidly approaching, is the destruction of all social bonds and the obliteration of any remaining sense of community— the complete atomization of society."
Well articulated post. I shudder to think about the implications of what you're describing when Drumph says we need "reforms to our mental health laws." I understand the situation of a mental health crisis needs attention but when the establishment is behind organizing laws and funding... egad. So what, conspiracy theorists will eventually be labeled as mentally ill? If you question the official narrative the white coats show up and drag you off?
 





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Well articulated post. I shudder to think about the implications of what you're describing when Drumph says we need "reforms to our mental health laws." I understand the situation of a mental health crisis needs attention but when the establishment is behind organizing laws and funding... egad. So what, conspiracy theorists will eventually be labeled as mentally ill? If you question the official narrative the white coats show up and drag you off?
That was already taken care of….7yrs ago
Oppositional Defiant Disorder

Furthermore,
according to Michael C. McGarrity, the FBI’s assistant director of the counterterrorism division, the bureau now “classifies domestic terrorism threats into four main categories: racially motivated violent extremism, anti-government/anti-authority extremism, animal rights/environmental extremism, and abortion extremism.”

So If the authorities deem 2+2=5 and you insist that the sum is is 4, then you have a problem.

In that list, you can thrown in anti-vaxxers, homeschoolers and other groups they will deem a threat. A few short months ago, the W.H.O declared the anti-vaxx movement among the top 10 threats to global health. These developments have implications for the Conspiracy community. An example: As demonstrated on the board, there are vaxxers and anti-vaxxers. If being anti-vaxx is regarded by the authorities as terrorism (to oneself and the community), are the pro-vaxx conspiracists going to cheer on the authorities to reign-in the anti-vaxxers?
 





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Apparantly the guys manifesto was also anti corporations.. so Walmart makes sense.

They won’t even pay cashiers so I doubt they are going to pay for security. The Walmart by where I used to live has a town cop assigned to it 24:7
Yeah but Walmart does have a security apparatus. They probably pay an astronomical amount for "loss prevention". It's just that all that means is crunching numbers and occasionally checking a security camera. Point being, they can allocate some of those funds toward proactive measures.
 





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Yeah but Walmart does have a security apparatus. They probably pay an astronomical amount for "loss prevention". It's just that all that means is crunching numbers and occasionally checking a security camera. Point being, they can allocate some of those funds toward proactive measures.
If they cared about people’s lives they would. They won’t because despite all that money on security the only thing they care about securing is their money/revenue.

They lose money in merchandise using those stupid self checkouts but they save way more by automating peoples jobs away so it’s a win for them. One freaking cashier on a Sunday afternoon in a store with 30 checkout lanes. And they pay THAT cashier absolute slave wages when they could afford to pay way more.
 





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Let's add something else here. Walmart has more cameras than any current store going in the US. They have a team of employees in a room monitoring everything including the parking lots in the most modern way possible. My understanding is there are no armed guards with the exception of a few stores but all are tied into local police departments. And then there is their facial recognition tools which are supposedly tied in with the government. All self check out lines have said tech in your face and says you are being monitored and you are for emotion, etc. It is very invasive and in plain sight. Then there is the latest zoom tech with their other cameras which are everywhere including every check outstation. In short, they cover every inch of the store including a very large parking lot with the latest tech. The stores are testing grounds for many things but noted for their unusually high tech monitoring. They have admitted to being able to eavesdrop on its employees and customers in their stores a couple of years ago.

Add to that high ceilings and all Walmarts are large enough for vehicles and even helicopters if necessary with all being in populated areas. They get tax breaks from the government as well and one has to wonder how a shooting happened here, how there was this lockdown and lack of film of the event, etc. And it is the perfect place for mass housing due to store size.

In short, Walmart is a staging area for many things including a false flag or altered event.
 





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If they cared about people’s lives they would. They won’t because despite all that money on security the only thing they care about securing is their money/revenue.

They lose money in merchandise using those stupid self checkouts but they save way more by automating peoples jobs away so it’s a win for them. One freaking cashier on a Sunday afternoon in a store with 30 checkout lanes. And they pay THAT cashier absolute slave wages when they could afford to pay way more.
Agreed and it's ironic because Walmart is still a victim of tons of theft. Of course, I use the term victim loosely. I tend to think of it more as a cause and effect type of deal. Or Karma.

I appreciate you keeping it real because it is that bad out here anymore. I mean slave wages, and a total lack of empathy for one another is definitely a recipe for disaster. Plus I think massive amounts of people are suffering from some deep depression. Where they can't even talk about much of anything without a gripping fear of the stigma that goes with it.

Not to get too personal or anything, but I see the hopelessness and terror people are feeling in my dreams. But I do see sunny skies ahead, I just wonder how long before the next hate train rolls through.
 





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The Wars come home.

"The Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum questioned the hypocrisy on Twitter: “The question is when we will begin to speak about domestic, white supremacist terrorism the same way we speak about foreign, jihadi terrorism. Both are coherent ideologies, spread by the internet, exacerbated by extremist politicians. Both demand a similar response.” The Daily Beast echoed, “Now, before it grows any stronger, should be the time to move against it with the same kind of concerted international focus of attention and resources that were trained on Osama bin Laden. Now is the time for a global war on white nationalist terrorism.” The Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg has also drawn direct parallels between 9/11 and the El Paso attack: “After 9/11, I joined thousands of other Americans in signing up to fight the threat to our nation. Now, in the face of white-nationalist terror, our leaders must stand up to fight this threat to our national security.” The South Bend, Indiana, mayor tells audiences that he “learned a lot [in Afghanistan] that sadly will be applicable here at home, too.” Former CIA and FBI practitioners are likewise specifying all sorts of ways the post-9/11 global War on Terror can be applied to fighting white-nationalist terrorists, from tracing the networks of extremists “just like we did against other terrorist groups” after 9/11 to changing our laws for us to “fight domestic terror groups … the way we treat foreign ones.” Six former senior directors for counterterrorism at the White House’s National Security Council just released a joint statement calling on the government to go after the Timothy McVeighs as ferociously as the Osama bin Ladens. “So can we please start a war on terrorism at home now?” the Stanford political-science professor Michael McFaul tweeted after the El Paso attack."

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It all makes sense to me now. I remember reading, like 4/5yrs ago, about soldiers being trained in mock settings that had no resemblance at all to towns in the M.E and everyone was asking: if these soldiers are going to be shipped out why are they engaged in combat training in mock/fictious american towns, a set-up environment clearly with no similarity to ME cities/deserts. Then there was the NDAA (I can’t remember the year) that designated “everywhere” a battlefield. Those were the conspiracies we read and soon forgot about since they didn’t come to anything but if Buttigieg is right, then all those who screamed “fear porn” would now be wrong.

I think that in getting shooters in other countries connected to the US situation then that helps in getting those countries to quickly adopt the US (soon-to-be implemented) model. Case in point: the New Zealand shooter who claimed he wanted to provoke something in the US.

I believe that these events tend be a case of “shooting/killing 10 birds with one stone.” I think that this could help Trump’s re-election chances. How, you might ask? By looking to the past. I found this video while reading about the movie Vice. Apparently, Bush ordered the terror-threat level raised inorder to get himself re-elected and it worked. Iam not saying that Trump ordered these falseflags but that they just might be a “convenient godsend”.

 





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I know you are going to kill me for saying this, but there is nothing I would trust less than MSM and Vice articles on white nationalism in that most are designed to create outrage. In short, the news is manipulated to no end when it comes to opinion. So you think Trump may have ordered false flags as opposed to the left or deep state doing the same thing for gun control? Also, with this being a conspiracy site, we do remember the controversies put forth by the likes of William Cooper on McVeigh. Maybe I am missing a point or something, so feel free to explain for I just did not seem to follow your point.

Another thing here. Did someone order the Ohio shooting to be a left-wing fanatic? If so, why? How do the two tie together for we cannot really talk about one incident and not the other. You see, most living in America do not see the same gap of division that is on the news as we go to work and play.

I have no doubt that control is the central issue here, but I think we all just have speculation at best.
 





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It appears the Ohio shooter was anti homos and his sister may have been a lesbian. I’m not sure at all what would even prompt him to support leftist candidates unless it was purely economic and I don’t know what the candidates he supported ever said that could be interpreted to support or condone that or even inspire it.

The Texas shooting is a bit different in that some of the things he said in his own manifesto giving his reasons seem pulled directly from trump tweets. That doesn’t mean trump is to blame but it is a contributing factor
 





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He had his social media scrubbed and supported Warren. Some MSM is now trying to spin this and say he did not have a political take or had been retweeting MSM sites just before the shooting. Retweeting the MSM would make them look bad, so it was pulled and quickly. There is a link somewhere of screenshots of his social media before it was removed. I agree though that this is likely not partisan but the situation in Texas has more gaps than anything I have seen in a bit. My spider senses are tingling, LOL.
 





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I know you are going to kill me for saying this, but there is nothing I would trust less than MSM and Vice articles on white nationalism in that most are designed to create outrage. In short, the news is manipulated to no end when it comes to opinion. So you think Trump may have ordered false flags as opposed to the left or deep state doing the same thing for gun control? Also, with this being a conspiracy site, we do remember the controversies put forth by the likes of William Cooper on McVeigh. Maybe I am missing a point or something, so feel free to explain for I just did not seem to follow your point.

Another thing here. Did someone order the Ohio shooting to be a left-wing fanatic? If so, why? How do the two tie together for we cannot really talk about one incident and not the other. You see, most living in America do not see the same gap of division that is on the news as we go to work and play.

I have no doubt that control is the central issue here, but I think we all just have speculation at best.
No, I won’t kill you because I’ve made my peace with your position. :) Iam not picky with sources because iam capable of seeing through what iam being sold. Is the news manipulated? Ofcourse it is. Nevertheless I read and watch news everyday and that is why I said in another thread that iam not of the opinion that the tv should be thrown out. Some of my musings/conclusions i post on here come to me while iam literally watching “news” on my television. Infact, I came to the conclusions in my first post in this thread after watching all these terrorism experts being interviewed in a news segment. Personally, every source is important, however flawed. Even Noam Chomsky, in an interview on the 30th (??) Anniversary of the release of his book “Manufactured Consent” (about msm manipulation), was asked what news site he reads first thing every morning and he replied: The New York Times.

Iam simply looking at this tragedy broadly and we’ve been given hints about what is at stake. This has nothing to do with white nationalism (as someone posted above that he had latino and jewish parents) just as those muslims didn’t drive the planes into the twin towers. White nationalism/terrorism is being used as a drag net. Because the Arab/colored has always been the terrorist, in pushing white terrorism narrative, everyone ineffect becomes a terrorist, regardless of color. That way, all opposition to the authorities can be stifled since now, everyone can be a terrorist. The second shooting, I believe, is meant to raise the hysteria, so that people clamour that the “authorities do something about this epidemic”. Apparently, there was another shooting in Chicago on the next day/hours apart that, curiously enough, hasn’t got the same coverage. Likely because the shooter was black and it would spoil the narrative of white shooters being used to further an agenda.

As The Epoch Times’ Jack Phillips reports, at least seven people were shot and wounded on Aug. 4 as they gathered near a children’s playground on Chicago’s West Side. The people gathered at 1:20 a.m. as they stood in the park on the 2900 West Roosevelt Road when a person opened fire from a black Chevy Camaro, said Chicago Police.
So why didn’t this mass shooting get the same kind of coverage that the other mass shootings received?

I didn’t say that Trump ordered these falseflags but that in looking to the past, notably, Bush’s playbook, these events may indeed help his re-election by playing on the fears of terrorism.
 





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