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None of them are totally correct and none of them are totally false.
None and all of them
None of them are totally correct and none of them are totally false.
None and all of them
That is very telling that you equate "punishment" and "the LORD"...Fear of punishment is a good motivator though...
Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
Luke 12:5
But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!
Thanks but I've been around and around with the Christians on this forum about the absurd concept of eternal torment too many times.You should post something about that in the how to recruit for Christianity thread or whatever it was titled
I love this! I empathize a lot with denying the right belief and going to hell for it. It is something I wrestle with a lot as a Christian. How can Jesus let the people he loves so much spend eternity in hell if they reject him, yet are still kind people? That’s a hard pill to swallow! With that being said. There have been times in my life that I cannot explain, only that I knew that God was there. Between Islam and Christianity, Muslim people are not inherently bad, they just were lost along the way. As far as the Jews, their religion is incomplete. Jesus came, he died and said “it is finished”. And it is.Somebody made this earth and filled it with life...
Somebody made you.
That can be a tuff pill to swallow for the proud... but it's true.
Who is that Somebody who made this earth and filled it with life ? Well that's where religions come in and try to claim knowledge about...
There are only three sorts of people in the world.
Those who know Jesus Christ is God and accept it and try to prove it.
Those who know Jesus Christ is God and reject it and try to disprove it.
Those who don't know.
I think that’s where you need to listen to your soul and call it to Jesus. Ask him to be in your heart. Ask him to let you get to know him and he will and you will believe and understand that he is all there ever was and all there ever will be.I love this! I empathize a lot with denying the right belief and going to hell for it. It is something I wrestle with a lot as a Christian. How can Jesus let the people he loves so much spend eternity in hell if they reject him, yet are still kind people? That’s a hard pill to swallow! With that being said. There have been times in my life that I cannot explain, only that I knew that God was there. Between Islam and Christianity, Muslim people are not inherently bad, they just were lost along the way. As far as the Jews, their religion is incomplete. Jesus came, he died and said “it is finished”. And it is.
I would disagree with that, I think Judaism is more complete than Christianity and less contradictory as well.As far as the Jews, their religion is incomplete.
That is the more eschatological scope of things, the world will eventually be redeemed (which is beautiful btw).Hi! I get what you’re saying and in that sense I do agree. Judaism waits for the world to be redeemed and in their redeemed world, God will make everything good again.
If anything the Torah revealed their need for a savior, because none of them were able to obey and keep the law. Have you read the Torah? None of them kept the commandments.That is the more eschatological scope of things, the world will eventually be redeemed (which is beautiful btw).
As far as their religion itself and what they believe, there is no sacrifice or anything necessary to seek forgiveness from Yahweh, as Yahweh generously forgives. They must simply obey Yahweh and observe the Torah. It's a rather easy religion actually because everything for them was laid out by Yahweh to Moses on Mount Sinai. Just follow the ten commandments.
Their awaited Messiah is entirely irrelevant to all of this regarding salvation, heaven/hell and the rest.
Nonsense, Jews have been keeping the Torah for 2800 yearsIf anything the Torah revealed their need for a savior, because none of them were able to obey and keep the law. Have you read the Torah? None of them kept the commandments.
Read the OT. The vast majority of it is Israel breaking the law and the harsh consequences they suffered for it.Nonsense, Jews have been keeping the Torah for 2800 years
That is very telling that you equate "punishment" and "the LORD"...
No religion is true.
Relationship with Jesus is true.
shows a complete lack of understanding.