Which CT blew your mind away/ How you got into CTs.

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The idea of the Illuminati got me into it... I don't really believe in it, at least in the tradional sense. (While I do believe in a "shadowy cabal", I don't believe that shadowy cabal is a united force... Rather various groups working together and against each other for control... 'cause you know, that's how it works in literally everything else; if we can't unite, there's no way that evil people actually can.)

The most mind-blowing thing was MK Ultra since it's an object, 100% proven thing. Unlike most others, which ultimately comes down to conjecture and correlation, it's something that has solid proof.
 






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Probably after watching the JFK movie when it came out.

From that point I knew the US government was evil and full of lies.

I also remember as a kid seeing footage on the news of the intifada in Palestine, with kids throwing rocks at tanks, and I knew something was really wrong with the world.

But everything really solidified after 911, once I was exposed to alternative theories, which eventually lead to Alex Jones and the fact that Obama was a fraud.
 






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In my case, I've always been interested in aliens, UFOs, Area 51, Roswell, etc. but around 2009 I started watching 911 CTs on YT; then someone introduced me into the Zeitgeist doc; one thing led to another and I've watched and read other different CTs ever since.

The latest CTs that grabbed me were MK Ultra and Project Monarch, Pizzagate, and Satanic Ritual Abuse.
 






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Entertainment industry 2009-2010ish.
The whole jay z, rihanna, lady gaga illuminati symbolism. Did lurk the vc forums back in 2012. Never created an account.
Pretty much this and seeing compilation pics of celebs/public figures of different industries doing similar eye poses it just seemed off, like this was no coincidence.
 






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the revelations of Ted Gunderson
That subject has always intrigued me. I remember once reading somewhere there was a group of critics of Ted Gunderson, debunking him and even going as far as saying he was a disinfo agent. What the hell...?
 






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In my case, I've always been interested in aliens, UFOs, Area 51, Roswell, etc..

Yeah one CT I like is that our governments have struck a deal with the aliens to allow them to abduct humans and mutilate cattle to take samples of their DNA for alien experiments.
I posted my own possible close encounter in VC earlier this year spread over the two pages of this thread in bits and pieces.. :cool:-

 






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That subject has always intrigued me. I remember once reading somewhere there was a group of critics of Ted Gunderson, debunking him and even going as far as saying he was a disinfo agent. What the hell...?
Gunderson likely was a disinfo agent. He has connections to both the Liberty Lobby and the Council for National Policy. Not to mention he was high up in the FBI under Edgar Hoover.

Gunderson seems to be an earlier version of the Pizzagate disinfo.
 






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Gunderson likely was a disinfo agent. He has connections to both the Liberty Lobby and the Council for National Policy. Not to mention he was high up in the FBI under Edgar Hoover.

Gunderson seems to be an earlier version of the Pizzagate disinfo.
Could you expand on that? Are you saying his investigation into the satanic ritual abuse matter was frabricated? He had nothing to win by putting himself on the line.

As for the pizzagate theory, what's your take on it? Do you think it was just a political/media maneuver to hurt the Democrats?
 






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Monarch programming and its origins. The idea that demonic possession can be manufactured with scientific experiments that involves abuse/trauma is absolutely terrifying.

The world became a lot more darker for me when i heard about that the first time and that's when I started to take conspiracies more seriously.
 






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Could you expand on that? Are you saying his investigation into the satanic ritual abuse matter was frabricated? He had nothing to win by putting himself on the line.

As for the pizzagate theory, what's your take on it? Do you think it was just a political/media maneuver to hurt the Democrats?
I'm saying he is not to be trusted. His intentions are not comming from a good place, he is a political operative.

As for ritual abuse, that's a real thing, but I dont know if the particulars on what he investigated were true or not. I would just take it with an extreme grain of salt.

With Pizzagate, again child trafficking is a real subject, but the Comet Pizza/Podesta conspiracy theory was concocted by pro-Trump operatives to distract from Trump's r*pe allegations (a lawsuit claimed he and Epstein raped a 14 year old) and to damage the Clinton campaign. The theory was pretty much all fake.
 






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With Pizzagate, again child trafficking is a real subject, but the Comet Pizza/Podesta conspiracy theory was concocted by pro-Trump operatives to distract from Trump's r*pe allegations (a lawsuit claimed he and Epstein raped a 14 year old) and to damage the Clinton campaign. The theory was pretty much all fake.
You gotta admit the emails containing the pizza, pasta and whatnot references sounded really odd. On top of that, there were those weird pics and comments on the Comet Pizza's owner's Instagram, coupled with the bizarre paintings in Podesta's bother's house.
 






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