Where Did Jesus Say, “I Am God; Worship Me”?

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Another time, Jesus's disciples said to him "Teach us to pray", and he replied-
"Our Father which art in heaven...",
thereby indicating that God was in heaven and he himself was on earth, ie two separate entities.
Also, Jesus often used to pray to God, but if he WAS God he obviously wouldn't pray to himself..:)
 






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i thought you were a trinitarian christian? what are you if not that?

There are no labels on me, I'm just an ordinary guy who doesn't belong to any church, I go my own way and don't follow any herd..-


The Trinity thing is something cooked up by the catholic church, a mere play on words and it's not important.
Jesus and God are separate and both singing from the same song sheet (the holy spirit), that's all..:)
 






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Jesus is the only one who will judge you... so that makes Him your God.
19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

and He has given him authority to execute judgment,


Jesus wasn't talking about being THE Absolute Judge of all people, but only those jews he was sent to.
I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel

entrusted all judgment

the 'all' here isnt an absolute term

because if it was...how would this make sense?

45 “But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. 46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

so Moses is going to accuse those jews, before the Father
so what will the Son be doing?


this is what happens when you make it up as you go along, you get exposed.
 






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19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

and He has given him authority to execute judgment,


Jesus wasn't talking about being THE Absolute Judge of all people, but only those jews he was sent to.
I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel

entrusted all judgment

the 'all' here isnt an absolute term

because if it was...how would this make sense?

45 “But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. 46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

so Moses is going to accuse those jews, before the Father
so what will the Son be doing?


this is what happens when you make it up as you go along, you get exposed.
Moses wrote The Law (the Torah) as it was given to him on Mt. Horeb in Sinai. That's why the first five books of the Bible are also referred to as the Books of Moses.

The Books of Moses have absolutely nothing to do with the "Jews" who follow their evil Talmud ("oral traditions") instead of following The Law (under which following any oral traditions is a capital offense).

The reason Christ stated through the mouth of Jesus that Moses wrote of Him is because Christ is The Word/Law made flesh (John 1:1), i.e. THE Example (John 14:6).

It is the Firstborn Son of God, The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi (The Anointed One/Guided One), NOT Jesus the mortal human son of Mary, that Father (God) has committed ALL Judgment too, exactly as it says in John 5:22. That includes all who claim to be "Jews", all who claim to be "Christians", all who claim to be "Muslims", and everyone else on planet Earth, including all of the tribes of Israel. Everyone will be judged by The Law/Word of God.

Which is why everyone who reads the Koran is COMMANDED to read The Law and the Gospel, and to become well-acquainted with them, so they fully understand that Christ is the SUPERIOR Example that ALL must follow, in thought, word and deed/action (John 14:6, Sura 3:55).

But instead, "Muslims" have made up their own incredible superstitions as they've gone along, with their fabricated, anti-Biblical history, their fabricated Hadith, their fabricated myths about journeys that never happened, to a place that didn't exist, to allegedly build a building that no one ever saw or visited, to supposedly put a roof over an idolatrous little black rock that God Himself has broken into pieces more than once.

All to elevate one of God's Messengers above God's Message, and in doing so, making partners of countless myths and superstitions, in direct contradiction of God's Word. No wonder the Koran contains at least 300 warnings to its readers that such unbelievers will find themselves in The Fire on Judgment Day, after they are judged by Christ.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth NO MAN, but hath committed ALL judgment unto the Son (Enoch 58:1; 60:11; 68:39):

Luke 19:27 But THOSE mine enemies, which would NOT that I should REIGN OVER THEM, bring here, and SLAY [them] before me.
 






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Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

It really couldn’t be much clearer. I don’t even understand how to there is a debate about this.
 






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Jesus Christ came to pay the price for our crimes... so we can repent and be forgiven.

That's God energy.
Redeem in Hebrew is spelled gimel-aleph-lamed. This translates “to lift up the first voice of authority”. The first voice of authority is God. We were redeemed when Christ was lifted up. Meaning Christ is God. If one does not believe Christ is God, then God wasn’t lifted up and they are not redeemed.
 






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Redeem in Hebrew is spelled gimel-aleph-lamed. This translates “to lift up the first voice of authority”. The first voice of authority is God. We were redeemed when Christ was lifted up. Meaning Christ is God. If one does not believe Christ is God, then God wasn’t lifted up and they are not redeemed.
Beautiful.
 






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To the topic, I make no attempt to argue with Islamic perspectives here as, in one sense the whole Qur’an is a polemic against the Trinity.
You mean to say that, in one sense, the whole of Christian doctrine is a polemic against YHWH the God of Israel:

But now, this is what YHWH says—
he who created you, Jacob,
he who formed you, Israel:
“Do not fear, for I have redeemed you;
I have summoned you by name; you are mine.
2 When you pass through the waters,
I will be with you;
and when you pass through the rivers,
they will not sweep over you.
When you walk through the fire,
you will not be burned;
the flames will not set you ablaze.
3 For I am YHWH your God,
the Holy One of Israel, your Savior;

I give Egypt for your ransom,
Cush and Seba in your stead.
4 Since you are precious and honored in my sight,
and because I love you,
I will give people in exchange for you,
nations in exchange for your life.
5 Do not be afraid, for I am with you;
I will bring your children from the east
and gather you from the west.
6 I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’
and to the south, ‘Do not hold them back.’
Bring my sons from afar
and my daughters from the ends of the earth—
7 everyone who is called by my name,
whom I created for my glory,
whom I formed and made.”

8 Lead out those who have eyes but are blind,
who have ears but are deaf.
9 All the nations gather together
and the peoples assemble.
Which of their gods foretold this
and proclaimed to us the former things?
Let them bring in their witnesses to prove they were right,
so that others may hear and say, “It is true.”
10 “You are my witnesses,” declares YHWH,
“and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
11 I, even I, am YHWH,
and apart from me there is no savior.
12 I have revealed and saved and proclaimed—
I, and not some foreign god among you.
You are my witnesses,” declares YHWH, “that I am God.
13 Yes, and from ancient days I am he.
No one can deliver out of my hand.
When I act, who can reverse it?”

14 This is what YHWH says—
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
“For your sake I will send to Babylon
and bring down as fugitives all the Babylonians,
in the ships in which they took pride.

15 I am YHWH, your Holy One,
Israel’s Creator, your King.”
16 This is what YHWH says—
he who made a way through the sea,
a path through the mighty waters,
17 who drew out the chariots and horses,
the army and reinforcements together,
and they lay there, never to rise again,
extinguished, snuffed out like a wick:
18 “Forget the former things;
do not dwell on the past.
19 See, I am doing a new thing!
Now it springs up; do you not perceive it?
I am making a way in the wilderness
and streams in the wasteland.
20 The wild animals honor me,
the jackals and the owls,
because I provide water in the wilderness
and streams in the wasteland,
to give drink to my people, my chosen,
21 the people I formed for myself
that they may proclaim my praise.

22 “Yet you have not called on me, Jacob,
you have not wearied yourselves for me, Israel.
23 You have not brought me sheep for burnt offerings,
nor honored me with your sacrifices.
I have not burdened you with grain offerings
nor wearied you with demands for incense.
24 You have not bought any fragrant calamus for me,
or lavished on me the fat of your sacrifices.
But you have burdened me with your sins
and wearied me with your offenses.
25 “I, even I, am he who blots out
your transgressions, for my own sake,
and remembers your sins no more.
26 Review the past for me,
let us argue the matter together;
state the case for your innocence.
27 Your first father sinned;
those I sent to teach you rebelled against me.
28 So I disgraced the dignitaries of your temple;
I consigned Jacob to destruction
and Israel to scorn.

“But now listen, Jacob, my servant,
Israel, whom I have chosen.
2 This is what YHWH says—
he who made you, who formed you in the womb,
and who will help you:
Do not be afraid, Jacob, my servant,
Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.

3 For I will pour water on the thirsty land,
and streams on the dry ground;
I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring,
and my blessing on your descendants.
4 They will spring up like grass in a meadow,
like poplar trees by flowing streams.
5 Some will say, ‘I belong to YHWH’;
others will call themselves by the name of Jacob;
still others will write on their hand, ‘YHWH’s,’
and will take the name Israel.

6 “This is what YHWH says—
Israel’s King and Redeemer, YHWH Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.
7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it.
Let him declare and lay out before me
what has happened since I established my ancient people,
and what is yet to come—
yes, let them foretell what will come.
8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”
9 All who make idols are nothing,
and the things they treasure are worthless.
Those who would speak up for them are blind;
they are ignorant, to their own shame.
10 Who shapes a god and casts an idol,
which can profit nothing?
11 People who do that will be put to shame;
such craftsmen are only human beings.
Let them all come together and take their stand;
they will be brought down to terror and shame.

12 The blacksmith takes a tool
and works with it in the coals;
he shapes an idol with hammers,
he forges it with the might of his arm.
He gets hungry and loses his strength;
he drinks no water and grows faint.
13 The carpenter measures with a line
and makes an outline with a marker;
he roughs it out with chisels
and marks it with compasses.
He shapes it in human form,
human form in all its glory,
that it may dwell in a shrine.

14 He cut down cedars,
or perhaps took a cypress or oak.
He let it grow among the trees of the forest,
or planted a pine, and the rain made it grow.
15 It is used as fuel for burning;
some of it he takes and warms himself,
he kindles a fire and bakes bread.
But he also fashions a god and worships it;
he makes an idol and bows down to it.
16 Half of the wood he burns in the fire;
over it he prepares his meal,
he roasts his meat and eats his fill.
He also warms himself and says,
“Ah! I am warm; I see the fire.”
17 From the rest he makes a god, his idol;
he bows down to it and worships.
He prays to it and says,
“Save me! You are my god!”
18 They know nothing, they understand nothing;
their eyes are plastered over so they cannot see,
and their minds closed so they cannot understand.

19 No one stops to think,
no one has the knowledge or understanding to say,
“Half of it I used for fuel;
I even baked bread over its coals,
I roasted meat and I ate.
Shall I make a detestable thing from what is left?
Shall I bow down to a block of wood?”
20 Such a person feeds on ashes; a deluded heart misleads him;
he cannot save himself, or say,
“Is not this thing in my right hand a lie?”
21 “Remember these things, Jacob,
for you, Israel, are my servant.
I have made you, you are my servant;
Israel, I will not forget you.
22 I have swept away your offenses like a cloud,
your sins like the morning mist.
Return to me,
for I have redeemed you.”

23 Sing for joy, you heavens, for the Lord has done this;
shout aloud, you earth beneath.
Burst into song, you mountains,
you forests and all your trees,
for the Lord has redeemed Jacob,
he displays his glory in Israel.

24 “This is what YHWH says—
your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb:
I am YHWH,
the Maker of all things,
who stretches out the heavens,
who spreads out the earth by myself,
25 who foils the signs of false prophets
and makes fools of diviners,
who overthrows the learning of the wise
and turns it into nonsense,

26 who carries out the words of his servants
and fulfills the predictions of his messengers,

who says of Jerusalem, ‘It shall be inhabited,’
of the towns of Judah, ‘They shall be rebuilt,’
and of their ruins, ‘I will restore them,’
27 who says to the watery deep, ‘Be dry,
and I will dry up your streams,’
28 who says of Cyrus, ‘He is my shepherd
and will accomplish all that I please;
he will say of Jerusalem, “Let it be rebuilt,”
and of the temple, “Let its foundations be laid.”’


(Isaiah 43-44)
 






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Redeem in Hebrew is spelled gimel-aleph-lamed. This translates “to lift up the first voice of authority”. The first voice of authority is God. We were redeemed when Christ was lifted up. Meaning Christ is God. If one does not believe Christ is God, then God wasn’t lifted up and they are not redeemed.
You are redeemed by repenting to YHWH, Jesus plays no role in your salvation, that is blasphemy against the God of Israel.


10 “You are my witnesses,” declares YHWH,
“and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
11 I, even I, am YHWH,
and apart from me there is no savior.
12 I have revealed and saved and proclaimed—
I, and not some foreign god among you.
You are my witnesses,” declares YHWH, “that I am God.
13 Yes, and from ancient days I am he.
No one can deliver out of my hand.
When I act, who can reverse it?”

14 This is what YHWH says—
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
“For your sake I will send to Babylon
and bring down as fugitives all the Babylonians,
in the ships in which they took pride.
 






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Redeem in Hebrew is spelled gimel-aleph-lamed. This translates “to lift up the first voice of authority”. The first voice of authority is God. We were redeemed when Christ was lifted up. Meaning Christ is God. If one does not believe Christ is God, then God wasn’t lifted up and they are not redeemed.
Colossians 1:12-15
1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, Which hath made us meet to be sharers of the inheritance of the holy people in Light:
1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into The Kingdom of His dear Son:
1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
1:15 Who is the IMAGE of the invisible God, THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE:

Hebrews 1:1-4
1:1 God, Who at sundry times and in diverse manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the Prophets,
1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [His] Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
1:3 Who being the brightness of [His] glory, and the express IMAGE of His person, and upholding all things by The Word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of His Majesty on high;
1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath BY INHERITANCE* obtained a more excellent name than they.

*being the firstborn/first-created of MANY brethren (Rom 8:29), i.e. the rest of the angels of heaven (aka the Sons of God).
 






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That is simply pathetic.

Exodus 6 2God also told Moses, “I am YHWH.3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by My name YHWH I did not make Myself known to them.



So what ? Your name is YHWH so what ?

Are we supposed to be impressed ?


Well this is how Moses originally wrote the name in what is today called the protosinatic script.



For Christians this makes perfect sense.

The Father crucifying the Son.
 






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Exodus 6 2God also told Moses, “I am YHWH.3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by My name YHWH I did not make Myself known to them.



So what ? Your name is YHWH so what ?

Are we supposed to be impressed ?


Well this is how Moses originally wrote the name in what is today called the protosinatic script.



For Christians this makes perfect sense.

The Father crucifying the Son.
You might find this interesting @TokiEl

 






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The Son is also known as the Word and the Christ and the Angel of YHWH and Adonay and Melchizedek and Michael and the Son of Man etc etc...
 






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